Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 62

  • Prashant ghode - 4 months ago
    What is the meaning of the Isaiah 19:8 verse
  • Mhsmlt - 4 months ago
    Can you give me a healing pray for a lady that has cancer of the liver.
  • Biblepreacher12 - In Reply - 4 months ago
    The Commandments of Moses = the law of sin and death the commandments of Jesus = the law of spirit and life.

    2nd Cor 3:7] But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

    [8] How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

    9] For if the ministration of condemnation ((Moses laws)) be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness ((Jesus' laws)) exceed in glory.

    [10] For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

    [11] For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
  • Biblepreacher12 - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Rev 14:12 there is a word you forgot "AND" ..The commandments of God AND the faith of Jesus"

    Jesus never said if you love me keep Moses' commandments. Nope, keep his commandments. The ten commandments are grevious Jesus' aren't. Jesus' commandments 100% conditional love.

    John 14:15] If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    [16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

    21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

    1st John 5:[2] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

    [3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    Rev 22:14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    [15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    What are Jesus' commandments?

    1) Sin not

    2) Be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect

    3) Love one another as I have loved you

    4) Matthew 5:3-48.

    Jesus never endorsed Moses' ministry. He laid down the new foundation in Matthew 5.

    Matthew 19:[8] He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

    9] And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    The commandments of Jesus the law of spirit and life which sets us free from the law of Moses sin and death.
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply - 4 months ago
    This interpretation gives God the glory for telling Abram the whole truth that his seed would not actually take possession of the promised land until 40 years after they left Egypt. Any interpretation that says God was promising Abraham that his seed would possess the land that fails to account for the 40 years Israel spent in the wilderness has to suppose either that God for some reason intentionally left that out and misled Abram about the timing of the answer to his question in Gen 15:8, or that God didn't know about that delay until it occurred.

    Both of those positions are much worse than saying that God did know about the wandering in the wilderness and did reveal a complete answer to Gen 15:8. At the same time, God left Abram and his seed uninformed on certain details, such as which nation Abram's seed would be enslaved by and why it would take another four generations before his seed got back to Hebron other than delaying His judgement on Abram's Amorite allies who had just helped him deliver Lot from captivity. God did not have to tell Abram that the generation that could have entered the land immediately upon leaving Egypt was going to rebel against God and create a 40 year delay.

    If it is acknowledged that this prophesy includes the revelation of God's foreknowledge of Isreal's wandering in the wilderness directly connected with His determination to delay judgement on the Amorites, this prophesy actually becomes one of the earliest examples of God hiding in His revelation the mystery that Israel's rebellion and hardening was going to prove to be riches for the Gentiles.
  • Biblepreacher12 - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Christ is the end of the law of Moses the law of sin and death as the old laws were just a shadow of things to come as it was dedicated by blood. In the new testament, the new laws of spirit of life is also dedicated by blood by the blood of Jesus Christ. Jesus' blood replaced those old commandments.

    Hebrews 9:13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

    [14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    [15] And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

    [16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

    [17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

    [18] Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

    [19] For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

    [20] Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

    [21] Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

    [22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

    [23] It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

    [24] For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Yes, Steven Spencer, He does seal us. I knew some would come up with other works of the Holy Spirit. I did not want to "hog" all of it, but wanted to leave room for others to respond. He convicts the world of sin, said Jesus in the Last Supper discourse.

    he comforts us, as Jesus called Him the Comforter. He advocates for us as a lawyer before a judge and Jesus called Him "Advocate".
  • Biblepreacher12 - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Looks like you have it all backwards. Obey my parents only in the Lord in the new testament. Honour is the old testament.

    Ephesians 6:1] Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

    [2] Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)

    [3] That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

    The law Moses' commandments were weak laws, thry could not make people free from sin, they can not make people holy. God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinfulflesh. The law can not make you the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. The law of righteousness the ten commandments Jesus is now the end of all that as he is the head of the Ten commandments for righteousness sake. The old laws were not good enough.

    Hebrews 10:[1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

    [2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

    [3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

    [4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

    Hebrews 7:11] If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

    [12] For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

    [13] For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

    [14] For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

    [15] And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
  • GiGi - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Hi Carleton, yes, in this life we are bound by our sinful nature which corrupts both our body and soul. It is not just our body that sins, it is our soul also.

    We will have a like resurrection as that of Jesus where our physical body is resurrected and reunited with our soul, but both our body and soul will be perfected and glorified. Our body is not any more evil than our soul, both are corrupted by our sinful nature and need redemption. It is clear from Scripture that God has shown us in the resurrection of His Son that we all will have a bodily resurrection. How the life to come will be for us as body, soul, and spirit, we just cannot know in this life, but Scripture is clear, that we will be like Jesus in His human nature, perfectly whole, complete, sinless, and glorified.

    Can't wait!
  • GiGi - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Cont.

    Perhaps in the beginning the year was 12- 30 day divisions (360) days and perhaps the lunar month was also 30 days each. But a major cataclysmic occurrence like the flood or a meteor strike could have altered the orbit of the earth and moon along with the axis of the earth being tilted.

    I think that this happened at some time in history. But with that being said. Nothing in the New Testament tells us that we are to gauge the yearly calendar by the Jewish method. What God asked of the Israelites in Exodus, and Deuteronomy and Leviticus was specifically for them at that time in history. In the world at that time people groups had their own calendars with their feast days and holy days and pagan celebrations. God wanted the Israelites to have this calendar He instituted so that this people would remain separate and distinct from the pagan peoples around them, celebrating the feasts, ordinances, and holy days He decided for them (which all point to Christ in some way).

    In the Christian era, with Jesus being the completion of the promises, prophecies and fulfillment of all OT Scriptures, a calendar reflecting the life and works of Christ is more appropriate and is not prohibited in the NT writings. Paul says that each of us are to keep feast days, holy days, or Sabbaths according to our conscience or not according to our conscience and that whatever is not of faith is sin. In other words, Paul is saying that these aspects of a calendar year are inconsequential in following Jesus. He is our rule and guide for doctrine and faith.

    Having an accurate calendar system helps the Christian family over the centuries with its consistency, aiding in our celebrating Jesus' life, death and resurrection and in conducting life and business in the world we must work in but not be overtaken by worldly ways that are sinful.

    So, those who want to follow a Hebrew type of calendar do not sin, and those wish to follow a solar year calendar does not sin either.
  • Carleton - 4 months ago
    Evening meditation. God's wisdom will change our mortal bodies to eternal as they were in the beginning before the fall. The body is of the corrupted seed. Jesus in a perfect body overcame the world and opened the door to heaven for the believer. Like Daniel we can pray openly, without shame, and commune with our God by Jesus Christ. We are free in Christ by our free soul, covered by the blood and washed by the living water of our Lord. In the Kingdom of God there is the blood bought Church which has blood bought members in peace and in unity and in fellowship with one another. They form a better body of faith together, in hope together of eternal life in the Throne of God. In this life in earth the journey has begun for the new in Life but we must at the appointed time shed this earthen vessel for a heavenly vessel as the earthen vessel is subject to this earth and not the Kingdom in Heaven. The Christian is literally in the world but not of the world if we remain faithful to the heavenly body by the Church as Jesus is her head. Someday He will take her to heaven and marry her forever in His Eternal Home at the Throne of God. This body now, the earthen vessel by Grace can remain bound to the Hope in Heaven

    like an engagement ring. And yet the body with a spirit made clean is now a symbol or a type for our remaining hours on the earth of the work of Jesus Christ, where this pilgrimage began. Our memory is best at the Cross where we are made common in heavenly places. And so while here as pilgrims and strangers on and in earth we can share the Gospel story of Peace in man.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 4 months ago
    I do understand that God set out the day for the new year in Exodus 12:2.

    It seems that the Jewish calendar eventually became a solar-lunar one with the knowledge of a true orbit of the earth to be 365 days and some part of a day-about 1/4th. The Jewish nation from the exile in Babylon began to use the Babylonian calendar. Julius Caesar began the Roman calendar in 45 B.C. both of these calendars left many days unaccounted for and a need to add months at intervals. The Julian Calendar was revised to a 364 day year, but then this left open one day and 1/4 each year to be made up. The Gregorian calendar was eventually introduced with a 365 day year with a day added to February every 4th year if this day year could be divided by 400.

    The Gregorian calendar became the international calendar eventually although some people groups still kept their own particular calendars such as the Jews, Chinese, Persians, Hindu, etc.

    Genesis 1:14 says that God put the sun, moon, and stars to give light to the earth and to be used for signs, for seasons, for days, and years. So for me, in the beginning, God declared that all these celestial objects were to be used in creating a calendar that aligns with the equinoxes of the seasons. When science was able to calculate the orbit of the earth more accurately a more accurate calendar year could be set forth. The Gregorian calendar requires only the addition of one day every 4 years instead of weeks and months at the end of the year as the Jewish calendar does.

    I find nothing evil or wrong about using a calendar system that most accurately accounts for the days in a year most closely. The Gregorian calendar is such a calendar and keeps the equinoxes in stable positions in the year more than any other calendar used today. It is not perfect, but it works better than any other calendar at this time;

    cont.
  • DrCharlesSaw - 4 months ago
    I pray for anyone who is troubled right now to find peace in Jesus name. He told us in John 14 NOT to let our be troubled or alarmed. I pray for peace in your spirit, mind, and soul in Jesus name.
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 months ago
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    Can man (the believer who is truly saved, having experienced all of the above), then undo what God has done, drawing himself away into perdition through an unholy desire, & without the immediate intervention of the Spirit within him who has loved Him, sealed him & secured him into the family of God? I know some do believe that we can of our own volition do such a thing & they've even given proof, but the Word clearly shows us that God makes no mistakes, yet we do err when we fail to understand that we simply cannot judge another's salvation or how the Spirit is at work in that wayward one's life to draw him back.

    We can never correctly discern a person's salvation before God - we must accept & love all who claim faith in Christ alone, building them up in the faith, & watching out for signs of weakness or departure, but salvation is only of the Lord & He knows His sheep & by their name - not one of his own can stray away for very long. But can even that one sheep decide that he no longer wishes to be under the watchful Eye & Care of the Shepherd or to live amongst that special flock? I believe that God's indwelling & continual ministry of His Spirit in his children will keep them true to Him, even under the greatest pressure, testing or persecution. But "if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his" ( Romans 8:8), should affirm our hearts & keep us confident that not one of His Own shall be lost or even have any desire to depart into the world & sin.
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 months ago
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    Hi Valmar. Thanks for addressing my question & I do agree with you on the incomprehensible Work of the Spirit in giving healing, exhortation, etc. What I was looking for pertains to your subject, viz. a believer's eternal security. And also to a comment you made, "the ability to lose one's salvation rests completely with that individual".

    The way I understand the Scriptures, is that if we have the ability, or power, to lose/relinquish our salvation, then it presents questions not only to the Spirit's Work in saving a lost soul, but also the power we have to over-ride what the Spirit has done in our lives. Clearly, you believe that a saved sinner can either choose to depart Christ or to remain faithful to Him. My question then is: is it in the new spiritual make-up of the one now found 'in Christ' to ever desire to leave the One Who has delivered Him from so great a penalty & given him a new life with peace, joy & hope? Here, I'm not referring to a saved soul who through negligence or appeal of the flesh or Satan, strays & toys with the world. I'm confident if that soul is saved, then the Spirit will not let him go; and Momsage shared an apt testimony of this very work of God in her & her husband.

    So to my question, I believe the more relevant Work of the Holy Spirit in one's life is that: He Convicts man of his sin ( John 16:8-11); He Regenerates, or gives re-birth to the penitent sinner ( John 3:3-7, Titus 3:5, 2 Corinthians 5:17, 1 John 2:29); He Indwells ( 1 Corinthians 6:19, Romans 5:5, John 14:16); He Baptizes ( 1 Corinthians 12:13, Ephesians 4:5); and He Seals ( 2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30). I'm sure you're conversant with these Scriptures, showing that salvation & securing is all of God, without any contribution from man. To Page 2.
  • RichFairhurst on Genesis 15 - 4 months ago
    Most commentaries online take the 4th generation mentioned in Genesis 15:16 as just another way of describing the same span of 400 years (or 430 years) that the nation of Israel spent in Egypt which is covered in Genesis 15:12-14. This cannot be the case.

    Genesis 15:16 answers Abraham's question in Genesis 15:8 about how he would know God would cause his seed to inherit the land God had brought him out of Ur to see that Abram was standing on in Hebron. The thought of asking God about when his seed would leave Egypt had nothing to do with Abrams question in Genesis 15:8, since he knew nothing about his seed going to Egypt until God revealed His plan in Genesis 15:12-14.

    Numbers 14:13-25 shows that God made the Israelites wander in the wilderness according to Moses word, which specifically acknowledged God's right to visit the iniquity of the fathers upon the 3rd and 4th generations. The 1st generation that left Egypt punished as the fathers was 20 years old at the census in Numbers 1:1-54. The 2nd generation was their children who were born in Egypt and seen God's wonders, but who could not enter God's promised land until 40 years of wandering with their fathers had passed. That generation spent a maximum of 40 years of their years in military service wandering in the wilderness.

    The 3rd generation would be born over the first 20 years in the wilderness and would spend a maximum of 20 years of their military service wandering in the wilderness. The 4th generation was born in the last 20 years in the wilderness and first served in the army after entering the promised land. The 5th generation spent no time in the wilderness and began entering the army 20 years into Joshua's campaign.

    Caleb was promised Hebron when he was 85 years old, which was 5 years after Israel left the wilderness. Caleb was from the tribe of Judah, the first tribe to gain its inheritance, and he obtained Hebron before he turned 100, the age he would be 20 years into Joshua's campaign.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 4 months ago
    S Spencer"

    John 4:35-37 - JESUS said:

    35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.

    36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth(JESUS sowed) and he that reapeth may rejoice together.

    37 And herein is that saying true, One soweth(JESUS was the sower of the Gospel of GOD's Kingdom), and ANOTHER reapeth.

    Matthew 13:27 and 30:

    27 ... Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

    30 Let both grow together until the harvest(said JESUS around 2000 years ago): and in the time of harvest (the time arrived) I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life ETERNAL: that both he that soweth(JESUS sowed) and he that reapeth may rejoice together.

    Ecclesiastes 3:1-2 combined with Revelation 14:14-20

    GOD bless
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Amen Gigi!

    There's one other thing the Holyspirit does that is very much in context with this post is he "Holyspirit" seals us.

    Ephesians 4:30.

    And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, WHEREBY YE ARE SEALED (UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION).
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Thank you brother S. Spencer - all truth in what you've shared here. Especially, when the Gospel message should be our only focus to save errant souls from a Christ-less eternity. And yet we have here in this KJBO Site, the opportunity to engage with others (believers & non-believers alike) to discuss questions & other matters of interest. Often they are quite beneficial as my own reading of the Scriptures are sometimes challenged & I need to make the effort to not permit strongly held beliefs to influence what I read from others. A hard thing to do, but when one puts himself in the other's shoes, he can understand the matter in a more informed way - and this can only happen within a back-and-forth discussion. Nothing may come of it, but may just cause all who read the thread to re-look at those relevant Scriptures in a new way. The Holy Spirit certainly uses any number of ways to draw us to His Truth - hopefully, each one of us comes in with that understanding & of the grave responsibility in sharing to such a wide audience. Blessings.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Thanks for responding

    Oseas.

    I suppose as long as the Lord delays his coming we should be spreading the Gospel.

    God bless.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Hello, one thing to note is that according to Dan. ch 7 we learn that the "prophetic" timeline consist of each day representing a literal year. 360 day Jewish year actually. As the 70 weeks allows us to understand. It was of course 490 "years"until the Messiah was revealed. These "time prophecies" are actually consistent on this.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 4 months ago
    You don't realize that the "moral law" still stands. The "ceremonial law" was a schoolmaster showing the redeemer to come. Which one of those "commandments" am I allowed to trample on?.. Adultery? it's ok, I'm not "under the law" right?.. Honoring my parents?.. nah, why should I? Not under the law right?.. you may want to study further as to what a ceremonial "sabbath" is, and what the eternal "moral" law is. 1 cor 7:19.. explain what are these "commandments"? Revelation 14:12.. what are these "commandments"?
  • VALMAR - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Thanks for your comment to post. Unfortunately, in my response to Chris's post, I forgot to mention the fact that I can also know why God gave us/me His Spirit when I came to Him as a repentant sinner. Because the Spirit is within me to do God the Father's will. The Spirit directs my path, convicts my conscience, and reassures me that when I sin and confess, God forgives and we continue on. He corrects me, humbles me before I get in trouble and is my everyday companion, though sometimes I may not act like He's around. He points me to Jesus always, and Jesus points me to His Father and tells me to keep going and not quit.

    One of my many favorite stories in the Word is where Paul is in Athens at Mar's Hill and preaches to them the fact that God is not far from any of us ( Acts 17:27), He's only a prayer away from the vilest sinner and that was me at one time. Thank you, Shabbat Keeper, for allowing me to correct myself, and blessings to you.
  • VALMAR - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Hello, Chris. Thanks for your inquiry concerning the Holy Spirit and His unique work within the Trinity. I can only know about the Holy Spirit (Spirit) from what the Word tells me, including Jesus Himself. You asked about God's purpose in sending His Spirit to indwell within us. From scripture, especially in the New Testament, it's apparent that He (Spirit) provides spiritual power to heal, rebuke, exhort, encourage, correct, discern, comfort and I'm sure some others. However, even in the Old Testament, prior to the advent of Christ and the Day of Pentecost when the disciples and others were baptized with cloven tongues of fire, we read where David slayed Goliath, Noah built an Ark, Samson slew 1,000 men with an animals jawbone, Daniel faced the lion's den and his 3 confidants a fiery furnace. Let's not forget Abraham and Moses either. I believe the same Spirit was within them also. God won't ask anyone to do anything for Him without giving them the wherewithal to accomplish it. That's where the Spirit comes in and, if we allow Him, can do mighty things for the Kingdom of God. The only requirement is we submit ourselves totally to His purpose... every day. Thanks for your time...
  • Biblepreacher12 - In Reply - 4 months ago
    The apostle Paul knew that all those fans were nothing but bondage such as the Sabbath day after the cross.

    Galations 4:10] Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

    [11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

    Galations 4:21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

    [22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    [23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    [24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

    [25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    [26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    [27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

    [28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

    [29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

    [30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

    [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 months ago
    You're welcome Shepherdsheep.

    God bless
  • Oseas - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Shabbat Keeper" and all

    In fact, concerning the day of Christ's return, even our Lord JESUS said no man know, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But GOD the Father has given an important and wanderful clue for us to discern not the day, but the moment of this wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable, event of Crist's return, through the prophet Daniel.

    Daniel 12:5-7 and 11-12 say:

    5 I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

    6And one said to the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

    7And I heard the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven,and sware by Him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time,times,and and HALF;and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

    11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,and the abomination that maketh desolate set up( Matthew 24:15-25.Take a look),there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.(1260 days of the 2nd half of the last week,week 70th, Daniel 9:27,plus a gap of 30 days).But what does the Word of GOD say and rfeveal unto us?It's in Daniel 12:12:

    12Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.Yeah, day 1335, the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to know now when will it be in the calendar, except to GOD the Father who is in control of History, and as said JESUS unto His disciples: "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His own Power. Note that there will be also a gap of 45 days after 1290 days, then the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day 1335 arrives.Then the current world of Devil finish in LITERAL fulfilment of Re.11:15-18.

    Get ready
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Amen Brother Chris.

    These times shouldn't be no surprise,

    These days were prophesied.

    We have to be aware of Satan's schemes. Some of this is his distraction.

    I try to warn others of the schemes and remind them of who's behind them, not really interested in the debates.

    Everyone amongst us is not of the wheat. Some or tares,

    Every debate doesn't Identify the wheat or tares.

    We Brothern sometimes end up in a debate but it shouldn't cause hate.

    Hate for the Brothern signifies one lacking the Spirit of Christ.

    Also we do not abandon the flock and join league with an enemy of the faith, "one who denies the work of the cross" just to be contentious.

    The Holyspirit wouldn't cause us to do that!

    It's not flesh and blood where the battle lies. It's a spiritual warfare. It's the spirit of truth what is being attacked by the father of lies.

    There were warnings in early church of this very thing.

    We must not let certain doctrinal debates consume us and begin a life long study trying to combat them, We can lead ourselves astray and neglect the great commission.

    That's the primary attack of Satan.

    When you see one join league with this movement or individual they have joined them in their work and shouldn't be spared.

    Psalms 1:1 says Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

    God bless you and others for all that you do Brother.
  • Biblepreacher12 - In Reply - 4 months ago
    We are to be holy in Christ Jesus as he is our rest our Sabbath everyday. The Sabbath day keepers are hypocrites as they break the Sabbath everytime they get out of bed and do work. The moment they got out of bed, they broke the Sabbath day. The Sabbath day was a day of rest, when you are resting you are not sinning. Jesus became that rest for us ss the Sabbath day was just a shadow of things to come. None of the Jews could keep the Sabbath, they kept breaking it. Christ is the end of the law of Moses the law of righteousness the Sabbath Day.

    Isaiah 56:[2] Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

    Isa.11[10] And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

    Matthew 11:28] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

    [29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

    [30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

    Hebrews 4:8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

    [9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

    [10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

    Hebrews 10:1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

    [2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

    Col 2:16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

    [17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 4 months ago
    Dear Momsage,

    It was the common practice of the New Testament church to gather on the first day of the week to break bread, bring together the offerings of the people, hear the preaching of the apostles, and worship with songs. ( Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:1-2; Rev. 1:10)

    Pentecost was on a the first day of the week and the disciples from then on continued to meet for worship on the first day to celebrate the day of Resurrection of Jesus. The apostles did go to the synagogues on the seventh say to preach, but this does not mean that they participated in the sacrifices, etc. of the Jewish faith on the seventh day. Historically, since Pentecost, the day of Christian communal worship has been uniformly on the first day of the week. This was not a decision nor a change of the "Catholic" church, rather, in Constantine's day, the Catholic Church, (which is what the new testament church grew into) was affirming as writ what was already standard practice in the church Jesus founded.

    2nd century church leaders speak of the common custom of meeting on Sunday to worship, especially across the Gentile world.

    At the council in Jerusalem, with Paul and the main apostles, John, James, and Peter, ( Acts 15) Saturday Sabbath worship was not one of the commands affirmed to be effective for Jew and Gentile alike who became believers. Ane Paul in Galatians was very adamant about not being required to keep specific festivals, holy days, or Sabbaths.

    It was not an evil thing to begin worshipping on the first day of the week rather than the seventh day. It was how the Holy Spirit led the church from the beginning as it transitioned from Judaistic practices to Christian practices.


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