In Genesis 2:2-3, God completed his creation by making the Sabbath holy and this sanctification and the blessing of the Sabbath then became a seventh day of rest.
Because God rested from all his works in creation, God's command of the 7th day of rest was also promulgated in the Mosiac Law that all Jews followed. See Exodus 20:8-11. This 7th day of rest or the Sabbath falls on a Saturday, which usually begins on sunset, instead of a Sunday evening. Throughout the Old Testament period, Jews have always congregated in their synagogues every Sabbaths (every Saturday evenings), for worship and hearing of the Law. The Sabbaths is based on the lunar calendar, and not the on the solar calendar. In the New Testament, we see Jesus in the synagogue as He was reading publicly the scroll of Isaiah,which spoke of the fulfillment of Jesus 'ministry. Jesus of course met on the Sabbath day( Saturday).
See Luke 4: 16-21. Noticed that on verse 16 of Luke, Jesus went to the synagogue just like any Jews of his time. It was customary. And certainly it was on a Sabbath day. There is one reference in scripture that mentioned Paul in Acts, about the monetary collection for the church on the first day of week. See Acts 16:1-2. Honestly, I think these verses speaks about the Sabbath where they assembled was on Saturday but never on Sunday.. because the Jewish calendar is carefully counted when the next Pentecost would be. (See Acts 16:8) so this all makes sense when we read the content of scripture regarding the Sabbath in a more precise understanding of the factual truth about the Sabbath day.
It was Constantine who changed the Sabbath Saturday into the "Sabbath " Sunday in 321 AD. It was a decree for all Roman Christians to rest back in the early days of Roman Christianity in the Roman Empire. Centuries later in 1582 the pope that you mentioned, changed the chronological timing of the solar calendar that we now have today with Sunday as the official Sabbath.
As I research the Bible and learn to read for understanding there are some very interesting results I find. I have been seeking reasoning behind verse 8 that tell us that "a new king arose who knew not Joseph".
This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the famine that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.
If there was any viability to their historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.
Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.
This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.
This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.
As I research the Bible and learn to read for understanding there are some very interesting results I find. I have been seeking reasoning behind verse 8 that tell us that "a new king arose who knew not Joseph".
This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the drought that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.
If there was any viability to there historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.
Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.
This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.
This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.
My understanding of that dear Peter is that if one wants to abandon/leave God, God will not go after him to bring him back. He waited for His son but didn't go after him. Every one of us is free to do freely anything he wants, stay with or leave God. Also the parable of the prodigal son shows us that salvation can be lost if sometime during our christian life we take the decision to leave God and return to our old sinful life. Unfortunately in real life there is no happy end in such stories, we have seen many times that prodigal sons never come back. GBU
Thank you for your respone, but from a research I did, I found out that at least the ancient pagan Greeks (don't Know about other nations at that time) didn't baptize for/in the name of the dead. There wasn't such a practice for it to enter Christianity later on. So the explanation of that verse should be looked for somewhere else. I think Brother Chris' explanation sounds reasonable enough, as well as other ones.
It is a good thing to start at the beginning and go to the end. I could tell you my understanding that will be different than many that may respond but I will say this. Regardless of the understanding you receive after the flood everyone living are descendants of Adam and Eve and the line to Jesus, the last Adam that the scriptures are all about
Clear your mind of the preconceived ideas you have and pray the Holy Spirit guide you to the truth. Your questions on Genesis 1:26-2:22 when you read through and take notes and go back and study each day, consider words like water, earth, and field and replenish. Look up the meaning of them and take notes of what was created on each day. I will give you one, replenish is an Old English word that meant fill not to refill.
What the water brought forth, what the earth brought forth, and what was formed out of the ground. Like beast of the earth, beast of the field, fouls from the water, fouls formed out of the ground. In the sixth days man was created last, does that line up in the second chapter?
The reason for God not having respect for Cains offering look in the New Testament. Scripture does not tell us if God gave instructions of what and how to offer so, it not being a blood offering is opinion. Abel brought the firstlings of his flock it does not say that about Cain. I will just say most comes from the heart as we see God told Cain if he doest well he would be accepted.
The Mark of Cain, what it was is not in scripture and any opinion will be speculation but whatever it was people would see it. Do a word search on the sons of God the book of Job is a good start. There are many opinions of a gap, but I have not found any scripture to support that.
I hope this will give you a start let the Holy Spirit be your teacher and don't look to find scripture to fit an opinion or a preconceived idea, let the scripture and the Holy Spirit show the truth, it may be later not now.
there is only one gospel, the new testament interrupts the old.. I'm just discovering how bad Christian Zionism/ C.I. scofieldism really is, i was caught up in it myself, they uses the truths in Pauls gospel to mask the lies. the big lies are, Jews have their own religion, a future physical earthly kingdom for Israel, the pre-tribulation rapture, the invention of a human man indwelt by Satan called "the Antichrist"... Satan is the Antichrist, the head of all Antichrists.. ect...
1 john 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as yee haue heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists, whereby wee know that it is the last time.
this idea of a human indwelt by Satan called the Antichrist is a distraction from the many Antichrists at work right now.
hares Paul's commission from the Lord
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said vnto him, Goe thy way: for hee is a chosen vessell vnto me, to beare my Name before the Gentiles, and Kings, and the children of Israel.
16 For I will shew him how great things hee must suffer for my Names sake.
As far as the verses Colossians 2:12 and Romans 6:3-7 are concerned, why do you think it'a about Spirit's baptism? Spirit's baptism is not something symbolic for something else as bapt. in water is. One doesn't do anything, simply God sends His Spirit to dwell in him. There is nothing there to symbolize for, I think. And certainly one receiving the HS can not in any case be taken as the burial and ressurection of Jesus.
As you said baptize in greek means to dip, immerse. The Jews practised many baptisms, hands, pots everything. Why? It means to dip them in water just to clean them. That is why John's baptism was for repemting and spiritual cleansing. John 3:3 "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;" Please pay attention to that "for the remission of sins". If John's baptism was for the remission of sins, how do some of us believe that the christian baptism is not necassary for salvation?
Nice to hear from you again, we may disagree to some things but is nice to talk to you.
Sorry for my delayed answer, I just wanted to search for some things. So I found out that:
Firstly, ancient (pagan) Greeks were never baptised in the name of the dead. They did actually baptise their children when they were a few days old to devote them to a deity, as an act of a spiritual cleansing in the beggining of their life, and oficially give them a name, but never in the name of a dead person. So it seems there was never such a practice that creeped from idolatry to Christianity.
Secondly, I did a research on internet in English and Greek religious sites and found out that most English interpretations say what you said that Paul talks about people that were baptised in the place that somebody else died. I never found though such an interpretation in Greek Bibles. They suggest many different interpretations. One common inetrpretation is "what shall they do those who believe that they will be joined with the dead saints if the dead will not be ressurected?"
So wha is my conclusion?
I really don't think that people were baptised instead of the dead, nothing in history or any other ancient tradition or early christian writtings suggest something like that. This is probably something modern. Also this idea doesn't fit with all those things that Paul was talking about, why would he say that?
Your interpetetion that "dead" (yes it's plural, in greek adjectives, like nouns, have a prural form) means the "grave, place of the dead people" seems to be right, there may be a problem(?) though with the verse "for the dead", it may be as well interpreted "in sake of/in favor of the dead". Nevermind, this is possibly what Paul wanted to say. I keep though my initial belief that it talks about Jesus that some (that's why Paul says 'they') claimed He was never ressurected in my mind, as well as other logical possible interpetations, until God hopefully reveals the pricise meaning of that.
Thanks all of you for your replies. God Blessings.
For each chapter in the Bible there are two sections at the bottom of the page: one is from a Commentary; the other is Discussion pages from those on this forum in regards to these chapters. You may wish to read both of these sections. This may help you in getting answers to your questions also.
Hmm that is a very good point and I missed that part about "replenishing the earth"..replenishing giving the idea that there had to be something prior to Adam and Eve or there wouldn't be a replenishing if they were there originally. Thank you for your reply and wow it's so interesting to think about pre-adamite man this way ( Neanderthals cromagnon man etc).
Hello, today i have decided to read through the bible starting from the beginning to the end, which I have never done before.
Naturally I have a few questions and I would like to think about them before moving on.
1: In Genesis 1:26 God said "let us create man in our image". Who are the "us" and "our" in this sentence? Then in Genesis 1:27 "he created male and female" I thought this was Adam and Eve, however in Genesis 2:7 it goes on to say that "on the seventh day that God rested. However it goes on to say that he created man from the dust of the ground". Further, it states in Genesis 2:22 that he then created woman. Were these different sets of people?
2: Genesis 4:5 Why did the Lord not have any respect for Cains' offering? The bible does not offer any explanation?
3: Genesis 4:15 What kind of mark did the lord place upon Cain after he slew his brother Abel?
4: Genesis 6 Who are the "sons of God" who took themselves daughters of men? And who were the giants mentioned in Genesis 6:4?
Thank you to anyone who is able to answer some or all of these questions for me. I am in no hurry to rush through all of the chapters and would just like to gain a better understanding before I proceed. Thank you and God bless.
Forgiveness is something that the Lord teaches us to do. We've been forgiven so we must also forgive others. Sometimes it's difficult, especially the "love your neighbor" thing. What if my neighbor is a jerk? Can I say that? It's not a nice thing to say I know. But who is my neighbor? Some people think that it is those who live next to them in their neighborhood, and that they need to get out there and start loving their neighbor.
But to the Jew, their neighbor was their fellow Jew. For Christian believers, our neighbor is our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. They must come first. The question is do we truly love them? The lord knows our hearts. Sometimes we fake it pretty well when it comes to loving our brothers and sisters, but the Lord knows if we are genuine or not.
As for forgiving others, it's hard to do if we look at it from a human perspective. If someone does us wrong, we want revenge. Something I heard a long time ago and it makes perfect sense, is that we see our sin or faults in other people. What I mean by this is that when we see someone doing wrong, we are quick to judge that person without asking ourselves, "Do I do that?" It's the whole "It's okay for me, but not for them" thing! It is easy for us to see a loved one commit a sin and forgive them, but if we see a total stranger do the exact same thing, we have a different response.
You say that sometimes you don't do so well? I think we all at times don't do so well in this area. Sometimes we let our flesh get in the way. But God's Spirit is there to remind us. When I look at all the things I've done in the past and I realize that the Lord has forgiven me, it sort of puts thing in perspective on what my response should be when it comes to forgiving others, including myself!
My friend, if you are truly saved, God's Spirit will give you a heart to forgive. It may take some time, but He will. His Spirit in you will give you the capacity to forgive. Pray on it!
The first book of the Bible that I read, was the Book Of Revelation. I was less than twelve years old. I will never forget the judgements. It was a horrifing book to read as a child, but now I find it an incredible book to read, knowing that He soon will come for His church.
We must do all we can to take as many as possible with us, those who refuse or are left behind, God have mercy on their souls.
Christ came to fulfill the law., also declare what is truth through grace found in him. At a time in history unknown only to God. Omnipresence of one found in the only begotten son. This one who became flesh, who spirit is yet alive through the same grace given unto those who believe. We too now doing the will of the creator! The word cannot die, it will always be! We who will never die, who are his creation in christ. This is the grace and truth of God toward man.
According to Websters 1828 Dictionary (a.k.a. the Bible dictionary as Noah Webster believed everything was comparable to scripture from the KJV Bible):
ENSAM'PLE, noun [ Latin exemplum.] An example; a pattern or model for imitation.
Being ensamples to the flock. 1 Peter 5:3.
In short, both have been said to be the same word -- rather, ensample became a defunct word in English and was later replaced (similar to stablished
In looking at and comprehending Christ's unlimited attributes; we might think that with no surprises as to the assessment of men; that He wouldn't experience some of the reactions that He did. One notable example of this was with the Centurion who prayed for His child. ( Matthew 8:5-10). In His human emotions there was nothing wrong with this; in essence He was greatly rejoicing and "basking in the moment" as it were. Mark 6:1:6 shows the opposite example; that of the unbelief of those from His own hometown. This was righteous annoyance if not downright indignation; again not any surprise to the Son of God. Other times there are instances where He wept; careful study of those scriptures gives us insight as to WHY He did so; often associated with the unbelief and blindness of others. It should be noted that as the "Man of Sorrows" there is no verse showing Him laughing while on earth ( Isaiah 53:3). There is no die hard rule here; but we should carefully assess our reasoning for humor and ensure it isn't for inappropriate thoughts.
Again; it is clear that there were varied levels of depth to Christ's speech; particularly in regard to the parables which He expounded to the Disciples privately after declaring them openly. They were designed so that those who thought they could see were revealted to be blind. ( John 9:39; etc.) He therefore upbraided His disciples frequently for not understanding. To draw all men unto Himself; therefore meant all those the Father had given to Him ( John 12:32; John 6:37 for comparison). We see His temporary solitude with the Disciples after the death of John the Baptist be abruptly halted after the crowds followed Him. Since only some of the crowd was sincere; it shows the nature of Christ in continuing to meet their needs despite the grief of Himself and the Disciples. His priorities made such decisions to care for others above His own needs (coming to serve and not be served
For our foundation is not from devised "fables" v16; but was made known through the power and coming of our LORD JESUS CHRIST as I learn to see HIM through the eyes of faith. For we have a more sure Word of prophecy because I know that v 20 "that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." For GOD gave it and it is profitable for any and all life issues, 2 Timothy 3: 16,17.
Scripture as given by GOD, is different from any other writings by men. GOD does not hide the failures, and sinful nature of men. It is all recorded to show me that even in my short comings and failures, the LORD can and still is able and willing to use me provided I repent, and follow HIM in faith according to HIS direction in Scripture. The LORD gives the comfort and peace I need to continue on; He gives me the power and faith to desire HIS will in prayer, supplication. He allows me to help others in their walk with the LORD as we all strive to move forward be be fruitful in HIM.
God bless everyone on this platform, and may HIS face shine brightly on all the saints as well as those that are still seeking. GOD bless our nation and our leaders to follow CHRIST JESUS in salvation.
Christ's perfect alignment with the Father's will and works allowed Him to have every action planned out; as well as a clear understanding of His impending death and Resurrection. Again; His Divinity necessitated this; but he was able to learn (as best as can be described) obedience ( Heb. 5:8-10) when in human form. This necessitated all His time to be prearranged for that final outcome and dictated where He went; who He talked to etc. In short unlike us there was never any confusion how to handle the situation moment by moment while simultaneously planning for the future long term mission.
This mindset; of course would clearly cause much confusion among His disciples and everyone else who were thinking with their own understanding. Clearly; He didn't condescend to placating other's expectations; although He was obedient to His parents after starting an early evangelistic venture in the Synagogue at age 12. This was to show an example of servitude and honoring family; but also He had a specific time (at age 30); perhaps according to Rabbinic principles to begin His ministry at that time.
Nonetheless; despite frequent misunderstandings He would heal all those who sought Him out. He Himself would go to places not considered appropriate; to the woman at the well; to hang out with children; and other unseemly individuals in society. The emphasis was always skewed toward repentance. Whenever the crowds followed Him after providing for their physical need; He would honestly assess that they were doing it for the payoff. He would base His actions incorporating responses such as that of the Pharisees complaining of Sabbath Day "work"; doing things in the power of Beelzebub; etc. He had Disciples arguing about who was the greatest and be betrayed and left alone just when their support mattered the most. Most notably; His concern was for the Church at the Hour of His trial ( John 17:17-23).
Matthew when he wrote this, was writing the commandment from the Lord to be baptized. (In water - to be immersed).
In Acts 2:38, Peter was obeying this commandment by giving the prescription for salvation - "Repent and be baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus.......and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost"......This promise is to you, your children and them that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call...."
Matthew was there when Peter gave this proclamation as were the other disciples. Peter knew that the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost was indeed the Lord Jesus Christ. (Father Son and Holy Ghost are the titles of the one true God - Jesus - God manifested in the flesh.
Acts 10:48 - And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
After this, Phillip also obeyed the commission given by Peter, who interpreted what Matthew said.
And this is I a significant command to be baptized by Paul...
And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Imagine; if you can the God of the Universe and beyond time itself humbled to live; breathe and die as a man. He truly suffered as our High Priest; but didn't sin. ( 1 Peter 4:1-2; Hebrews 4:14-16). He was able to know the hearts of all men; hence didn't need to analyze whether they would be responsive or not to the Word and therefore spoke things in light of that based on whoever He was addressing. However; specific rebuke toward individuals was focused on His Disciples; most notably Peter with the famous statement "get behind me Satan." ( Matthew 16:23; Mark 8:33). This was shortly after His statement that Peter's understanding of His being the Son of God was only revealed from God ( Matthew 16:17). There was no misunderstanding in the demon world when they were cast out as to who Christ was. He therefore was operating in the Spirit realm; and based all His conversations and actions on those efforts.
There are unsaid things as well. When the deaf and dumb demon was cast out; Jesus told His disciples in the midst of others that prayer and fasting were necessary to carry out that particular deliverance ( Matthew 17:19-21). This would indicate Christ's preparation for that event along with other times He had reasons to be up well before dawn and late at night with prayer. Knowledge was not necessary but reliance on the Holy Spirit above; and trust in God throughout the process. Since He is our High Priest; he willingly gave up doing anything in His own Divinity so He could be an example of how we are to live trusting entirely on God in our limited state. He still needs to be seen because of having the "Spirit without measure" ( John 3:34). Not acting is as much an example of God's character as actions; when we see that Christ's Divinity would have allowed access to more than 12 legions of angels; which could undoubtably have destroyed everyone at the crucifixion.
In Genesis 2:2-3, God completed his creation by making the Sabbath holy and this sanctification and the blessing of the Sabbath then became a seventh day of rest.
Because God rested from all his works in creation, God's command of the 7th day of rest was also promulgated in the Mosiac Law that all Jews followed. See Exodus 20:8-11. This 7th day of rest or the Sabbath falls on a Saturday, which usually begins on sunset, instead of a Sunday evening. Throughout the Old Testament period, Jews have always congregated in their synagogues every Sabbaths (every Saturday evenings), for worship and hearing of the Law. The Sabbaths is based on the lunar calendar, and not the on the solar calendar. In the New Testament, we see Jesus in the synagogue as He was reading publicly the scroll of Isaiah,which spoke of the fulfillment of Jesus 'ministry. Jesus of course met on the Sabbath day( Saturday).
See Luke 4: 16-21. Noticed that on verse 16 of Luke, Jesus went to the synagogue just like any Jews of his time. It was customary. And certainly it was on a Sabbath day. There is one reference in scripture that mentioned Paul in Acts, about the monetary collection for the church on the first day of week. See Acts 16:1-2. Honestly, I think these verses speaks about the Sabbath where they assembled was on Saturday but never on Sunday.. because the Jewish calendar is carefully counted when the next Pentecost would be. (See Acts 16:8) so this all makes sense when we read the content of scripture regarding the Sabbath in a more precise understanding of the factual truth about the Sabbath day.
It was Constantine who changed the Sabbath Saturday into the "Sabbath " Sunday in 321 AD. It was a decree for all Roman Christians to rest back in the early days of Roman Christianity in the Roman Empire. Centuries later in 1582 the pope that you mentioned, changed the chronological timing of the solar calendar that we now have today with Sunday as the official Sabbath.
This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the famine that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.
If there was any viability to their historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.
Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.
This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.
This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.
to God and do what you will but spare HIS LIFE. Now in Job 3: 25 we read where job says that which he was afraid of has come
upon Him, God did not do any of Jobs sorrows in fact in the end God gave him back double of everything. Now the thing that Job
feared so great in Job 1:5 we read where job daily offered up prayers for his family because he believed they were sinning all
the time that is great fear. Job continually did this which opened the door, he believed that because of what his family was
doing that God was going to punish them. Its interesting how many times in scripture the first words of messengers from the
true God is fear not, even in the gospel many times Jesus Christ said fear not. When were born again in 2 Timothy 1:7 it
says that God has not given us the spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind. GOOD STUFF!
This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the drought that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.
If there was any viability to there historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.
Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.
This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.
This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.
Thank you for your respone, but from a research I did, I found out that at least the ancient pagan Greeks (don't Know about other nations at that time) didn't baptize for/in the name of the dead. There wasn't such a practice for it to enter Christianity later on. So the explanation of that verse should be looked for somewhere else. I think Brother Chris' explanation sounds reasonable enough, as well as other ones.
GBU
It is a good thing to start at the beginning and go to the end. I could tell you my understanding that will be different than many that may respond but I will say this. Regardless of the understanding you receive after the flood everyone living are descendants of Adam and Eve and the line to Jesus, the last Adam that the scriptures are all about
Clear your mind of the preconceived ideas you have and pray the Holy Spirit guide you to the truth. Your questions on Genesis 1:26-2:22 when you read through and take notes and go back and study each day, consider words like water, earth, and field and replenish. Look up the meaning of them and take notes of what was created on each day. I will give you one, replenish is an Old English word that meant fill not to refill.
What the water brought forth, what the earth brought forth, and what was formed out of the ground. Like beast of the earth, beast of the field, fouls from the water, fouls formed out of the ground. In the sixth days man was created last, does that line up in the second chapter?
The reason for God not having respect for Cains offering look in the New Testament. Scripture does not tell us if God gave instructions of what and how to offer so, it not being a blood offering is opinion. Abel brought the firstlings of his flock it does not say that about Cain. I will just say most comes from the heart as we see God told Cain if he doest well he would be accepted.
The Mark of Cain, what it was is not in scripture and any opinion will be speculation but whatever it was people would see it. Do a word search on the sons of God the book of Job is a good start. There are many opinions of a gap, but I have not found any scripture to support that.
I hope this will give you a start let the Holy Spirit be your teacher and don't look to find scripture to fit an opinion or a preconceived idea, let the scripture and the Holy Spirit show the truth, it may be later not now.
God bless your study,
RLW
1 john 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as yee haue heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists, whereby wee know that it is the last time.
this idea of a human indwelt by Satan called the Antichrist is a distraction from the many Antichrists at work right now.
hares Paul's commission from the Lord
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said vnto him, Goe thy way: for hee is a chosen vessell vnto me, to beare my Name before the Gentiles, and Kings, and the children of Israel.
16 For I will shew him how great things hee must suffer for my Names sake.
Thanks for your reply.
As far as the verses Colossians 2:12 and Romans 6:3-7 are concerned, why do you think it'a about Spirit's baptism? Spirit's baptism is not something symbolic for something else as bapt. in water is. One doesn't do anything, simply God sends His Spirit to dwell in him. There is nothing there to symbolize for, I think. And certainly one receiving the HS can not in any case be taken as the burial and ressurection of Jesus.
As you said baptize in greek means to dip, immerse. The Jews practised many baptisms, hands, pots everything. Why? It means to dip them in water just to clean them. That is why John's baptism was for repemting and spiritual cleansing. John 3:3 "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;" Please pay attention to that "for the remission of sins". If John's baptism was for the remission of sins, how do some of us believe that the christian baptism is not necassary for salvation?
Nice to hear from you again, we may disagree to some things but is nice to talk to you.
Blessings
to God and do what you will but spare HIS LIFE. Now in Job 3: 25 we read where job says that which he was afraid of has come
upon Him, God did not do any of Jobs sorrows in fact in the end God gave him back double of everything. Now the thing that Job
feared so great in Job 1:5 we read where job daily offered up prayers for his family because he believed they were sinning all
the time that is great fear. Job continually did this which opened the door, he believed that because of what his family was
doing that God was going to punish them. Its interesting how many times in scripture the first words of messengers from the
true God is fear not, even in the gospel many times Jesus Christ said fear not. When were born again in 2 Timothy 1:7 it
says that God has not given us the spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind. GOOD STUFF!
Sorry for my delayed answer, I just wanted to search for some things. So I found out that:
Firstly, ancient (pagan) Greeks were never baptised in the name of the dead. They did actually baptise their children when they were a few days old to devote them to a deity, as an act of a spiritual cleansing in the beggining of their life, and oficially give them a name, but never in the name of a dead person. So it seems there was never such a practice that creeped from idolatry to Christianity.
Secondly, I did a research on internet in English and Greek religious sites and found out that most English interpretations say what you said that Paul talks about people that were baptised in the place that somebody else died. I never found though such an interpretation in Greek Bibles. They suggest many different interpretations. One common inetrpretation is "what shall they do those who believe that they will be joined with the dead saints if the dead will not be ressurected?"
So wha is my conclusion?
I really don't think that people were baptised instead of the dead, nothing in history or any other ancient tradition or early christian writtings suggest something like that. This is probably something modern. Also this idea doesn't fit with all those things that Paul was talking about, why would he say that?
Your interpetetion that "dead" (yes it's plural, in greek adjectives, like nouns, have a prural form) means the "grave, place of the dead people" seems to be right, there may be a problem(?) though with the verse "for the dead", it may be as well interpreted "in sake of/in favor of the dead". Nevermind, this is possibly what Paul wanted to say. I keep though my initial belief that it talks about Jesus that some (that's why Paul says 'they') claimed He was never ressurected in my mind, as well as other logical possible interpetations, until God hopefully reveals the pricise meaning of that.
Thanks all of you for your replies. God Blessings.
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but was wiped out between genesis 1:1 and 1:2 thats why repopulate is there no their were not two adams and eves.
thge only6 traces of the life that was on earth are fossilsof the cataclysmic event.
and man became a living soul. now some will say spirit and soul are the same but look at 1 Thes.5:23 states and I pray your
spirit soul and body be preserved blameless. Another point interesting is Gen. 1:28 that God says to adam and eve
repopulate the earth why. IN GEN 1:27 God created man in his image.[In gospel of the john 4;24 GOD IS SPIRIT thats what he
created in man then in gen 2:7 he finished it and man had body soul and spirit.
Naturally I have a few questions and I would like to think about them before moving on.
1: In Genesis 1:26 God said "let us create man in our image". Who are the "us" and "our" in this sentence? Then in Genesis 1:27 "he created male and female" I thought this was Adam and Eve, however in Genesis 2:7 it goes on to say that "on the seventh day that God rested. However it goes on to say that he created man from the dust of the ground". Further, it states in Genesis 2:22 that he then created woman. Were these different sets of people?
2: Genesis 4:5 Why did the Lord not have any respect for Cains' offering? The bible does not offer any explanation?
3: Genesis 4:15 What kind of mark did the lord place upon Cain after he slew his brother Abel?
4: Genesis 6 Who are the "sons of God" who took themselves daughters of men? And who were the giants mentioned in Genesis 6:4?
Thank you to anyone who is able to answer some or all of these questions for me. I am in no hurry to rush through all of the chapters and would just like to gain a better understanding before I proceed. Thank you and God bless.
with the true God it was under His rulership that all religions of the world including catholism had their roots. The reason I
said religions of the world is because Christianity is of or from Heaven. The great whore Babylon represents the adversaries
rulership on earth and how it uses and waste Gods creation which is why it will be eniliated and taken to the pit.
Forgiveness is something that the Lord teaches us to do. We've been forgiven so we must also forgive others. Sometimes it's difficult, especially the "love your neighbor" thing. What if my neighbor is a jerk? Can I say that? It's not a nice thing to say I know. But who is my neighbor? Some people think that it is those who live next to them in their neighborhood, and that they need to get out there and start loving their neighbor.
But to the Jew, their neighbor was their fellow Jew. For Christian believers, our neighbor is our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. They must come first. The question is do we truly love them? The lord knows our hearts. Sometimes we fake it pretty well when it comes to loving our brothers and sisters, but the Lord knows if we are genuine or not.
As for forgiving others, it's hard to do if we look at it from a human perspective. If someone does us wrong, we want revenge. Something I heard a long time ago and it makes perfect sense, is that we see our sin or faults in other people. What I mean by this is that when we see someone doing wrong, we are quick to judge that person without asking ourselves, "Do I do that?" It's the whole "It's okay for me, but not for them" thing! It is easy for us to see a loved one commit a sin and forgive them, but if we see a total stranger do the exact same thing, we have a different response.
You say that sometimes you don't do so well? I think we all at times don't do so well in this area. Sometimes we let our flesh get in the way. But God's Spirit is there to remind us. When I look at all the things I've done in the past and I realize that the Lord has forgiven me, it sort of puts thing in perspective on what my response should be when it comes to forgiving others, including myself!
My friend, if you are truly saved, God's Spirit will give you a heart to forgive. It may take some time, but He will. His Spirit in you will give you the capacity to forgive. Pray on it!
We must do all we can to take as many as possible with us, those who refuse or are left behind, God have mercy on their souls.
Rent and be baptized
ENSAM'PLE, noun [ Latin exemplum.] An example; a pattern or model for imitation.
Being ensamples to the flock. 1 Peter 5:3.
In short, both have been said to be the same word -- rather, ensample became a defunct word in English and was later replaced (similar to stablished
In looking at and comprehending Christ's unlimited attributes; we might think that with no surprises as to the assessment of men; that He wouldn't experience some of the reactions that He did. One notable example of this was with the Centurion who prayed for His child. ( Matthew 8:5-10). In His human emotions there was nothing wrong with this; in essence He was greatly rejoicing and "basking in the moment" as it were. Mark 6:1:6 shows the opposite example; that of the unbelief of those from His own hometown. This was righteous annoyance if not downright indignation; again not any surprise to the Son of God. Other times there are instances where He wept; careful study of those scriptures gives us insight as to WHY He did so; often associated with the unbelief and blindness of others. It should be noted that as the "Man of Sorrows" there is no verse showing Him laughing while on earth ( Isaiah 53:3). There is no die hard rule here; but we should carefully assess our reasoning for humor and ensure it isn't for inappropriate thoughts.
Again; it is clear that there were varied levels of depth to Christ's speech; particularly in regard to the parables which He expounded to the Disciples privately after declaring them openly. They were designed so that those who thought they could see were revealted to be blind. ( John 9:39; etc.) He therefore upbraided His disciples frequently for not understanding. To draw all men unto Himself; therefore meant all those the Father had given to Him ( John 12:32; John 6:37 for comparison). We see His temporary solitude with the Disciples after the death of John the Baptist be abruptly halted after the crowds followed Him. Since only some of the crowd was sincere; it shows the nature of Christ in continuing to meet their needs despite the grief of Himself and the Disciples. His priorities made such decisions to care for others above His own needs (coming to serve and not be served
constantly addressing pagan practices that certain individuals did not give up or were persuaded to keep doing them. In the
corinthian church Paul had to address sexual perversion because there were christians delivered from that, but kept certain
practices not Good. There was a rather large temple at corinth that sex was worshipped, I think the god was eros.
Scripture as given by GOD, is different from any other writings by men. GOD does not hide the failures, and sinful nature of men. It is all recorded to show me that even in my short comings and failures, the LORD can and still is able and willing to use me provided I repent, and follow HIM in faith according to HIS direction in Scripture. The LORD gives the comfort and peace I need to continue on; He gives me the power and faith to desire HIS will in prayer, supplication. He allows me to help others in their walk with the LORD as we all strive to move forward be be fruitful in HIM.
God bless everyone on this platform, and may HIS face shine brightly on all the saints as well as those that are still seeking. GOD bless our nation and our leaders to follow CHRIST JESUS in salvation.
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Christ's perfect alignment with the Father's will and works allowed Him to have every action planned out; as well as a clear understanding of His impending death and Resurrection. Again; His Divinity necessitated this; but he was able to learn (as best as can be described) obedience ( Heb. 5:8-10) when in human form. This necessitated all His time to be prearranged for that final outcome and dictated where He went; who He talked to etc. In short unlike us there was never any confusion how to handle the situation moment by moment while simultaneously planning for the future long term mission.
This mindset; of course would clearly cause much confusion among His disciples and everyone else who were thinking with their own understanding. Clearly; He didn't condescend to placating other's expectations; although He was obedient to His parents after starting an early evangelistic venture in the Synagogue at age 12. This was to show an example of servitude and honoring family; but also He had a specific time (at age 30); perhaps according to Rabbinic principles to begin His ministry at that time.
Nonetheless; despite frequent misunderstandings He would heal all those who sought Him out. He Himself would go to places not considered appropriate; to the woman at the well; to hang out with children; and other unseemly individuals in society. The emphasis was always skewed toward repentance. Whenever the crowds followed Him after providing for their physical need; He would honestly assess that they were doing it for the payoff. He would base His actions incorporating responses such as that of the Pharisees complaining of Sabbath Day "work"; doing things in the power of Beelzebub; etc. He had Disciples arguing about who was the greatest and be betrayed and left alone just when their support mattered the most. Most notably; His concern was for the Church at the Hour of His trial ( John 17:17-23).
Matthew when he wrote this, was writing the commandment from the Lord to be baptized. (In water - to be immersed).
In Acts 2:38, Peter was obeying this commandment by giving the prescription for salvation - "Repent and be baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus.......and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost"......This promise is to you, your children and them that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call...."
Matthew was there when Peter gave this proclamation as were the other disciples. Peter knew that the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost was indeed the Lord Jesus Christ. (Father Son and Holy Ghost are the titles of the one true God - Jesus - God manifested in the flesh.
Acts 10:48 - And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
After this, Phillip also obeyed the commission given by Peter, who interpreted what Matthew said.
And this is I a significant command to be baptized by Paul...
And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7And all the men were about twelve.
Amen.
Imagine; if you can the God of the Universe and beyond time itself humbled to live; breathe and die as a man. He truly suffered as our High Priest; but didn't sin. ( 1 Peter 4:1-2; Hebrews 4:14-16). He was able to know the hearts of all men; hence didn't need to analyze whether they would be responsive or not to the Word and therefore spoke things in light of that based on whoever He was addressing. However; specific rebuke toward individuals was focused on His Disciples; most notably Peter with the famous statement "get behind me Satan." ( Matthew 16:23; Mark 8:33). This was shortly after His statement that Peter's understanding of His being the Son of God was only revealed from God ( Matthew 16:17). There was no misunderstanding in the demon world when they were cast out as to who Christ was. He therefore was operating in the Spirit realm; and based all His conversations and actions on those efforts.
There are unsaid things as well. When the deaf and dumb demon was cast out; Jesus told His disciples in the midst of others that prayer and fasting were necessary to carry out that particular deliverance ( Matthew 17:19-21). This would indicate Christ's preparation for that event along with other times He had reasons to be up well before dawn and late at night with prayer. Knowledge was not necessary but reliance on the Holy Spirit above; and trust in God throughout the process. Since He is our High Priest; he willingly gave up doing anything in His own Divinity so He could be an example of how we are to live trusting entirely on God in our limited state. He still needs to be seen because of having the "Spirit without measure" ( John 3:34). Not acting is as much an example of God's character as actions; when we see that Christ's Divinity would have allowed access to more than 12 legions of angels; which could undoubtably have destroyed everyone at the crucifixion.