Wow! I had no idea anyone had responded to my post, but praise God that my desperate rambling was used to speak to anyone at all. I doubted it would ever even be read by an actual person.
Thank all of y'all who were guided to respond. It means so much to me to feel heard. I appreciate any prayer for my life, my health, my restoration, and please go on.. but if I may ask for specific prayers for my young twin daughters? Their names are Bonnie and Baylee, and they are 8 years old. Beautiful, smart and tender hearted, and so far they love Jesus! Unfortunately we lost their daddy and my husband in a car accident when they were only 15 months old. It hasn't been easy, and I know it might be a long while until there are better times ahead. All because of the clarity the Lord gave me throughout yesterday and today, I am finally beginning to really really be at peace with God's purpose for my life, and wether he restores my health or ends my life on earth I will rejoice in His promises because now I KNOW Jesus is using my life to glorify His name, and I pray it can be used so others can receive Jesus like I have!, I just pray PLEASE Lord, that my girls see Christ through me. I can't say how much it would mean to me that anyone would see fit to lift up my daughters in prayer at my request. And I ask for this of anyone who will, because I am the best at forgetting to focus on Jesus and not on myself. And I fall back to being a poor example of the Living Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no more time for me to be a lukewarm Christian. They have to know their mommas life was made rich complete because of God's goodness!I'm still rambling like a crazy person, and I thank y'all for not laughing or judging how desperate I am in my spirit for God's grace to continue this raining on me. Thank you God for being ALMIGHTY and POWERFUL. Jesus ALONE is worthy of praise. Amen.
Your words have truly ministered to my heart. You have shared with us a perfect example of what it means to place one's complete trust in Jesus Christ. You have reminded me of what it means to remain under our circumstances, no matter how hard those circumstances might be, and knowing that the Lord oftentimes places hardships in our lives in order to teach us how to trust in Him. You've demonstrated that trust. I can't see how anyone reading your words would not be blessed by them. Your words have caused me to examine my own walk with Christ, and for that I say thank you. My prayers are with you as you deal with cancer. I lift you up to the Lord and pray for His will to be done in your life. May He continue to strengthen you and guide you in every path that He sets before you.
It was not a dilemma for the apostle Paul. In Philippians 1:21, Paul's philosophy was that for him, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. I like that!
Paul says in Philippians 1:22, but if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. (That is, I do not know).
In Philippians 1:23-24, he says, "For I am in a strait between two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more necessary for you.
Reading through Verses 25 & 26, what Paul seems to be saying is that he really would like to go be with the Lord. Paul's life was not the kind of life that you want to stick around for, you know? Unless you like being in prison and creating riots, like Paul.
But Paul says I really would like to go be with the Lord. It has much more priority for me and desire than here.
Some of us have trouble giving up our life here for Christ because this life means "so much" to us.
And Paul says for me to live is Christ. If I have to stay here, then that's what my life is going to be about, Jesus Christ, and to minister to those so that they can have a furtherance, or advancement, and satisfaction of faith.
So he says in that you would rejoice in Christ for me coming to you again.
I haven't followed this post or many others due to out of town business.
I think you are spot on. Jesus was resurrected a spiritual body and you gave good supporting scripture.
1 Corinthians 15:44. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Jesus was sown ith our iniquities on him, He wouldn't be raised that same sinful body and go into the presence of the Father. When Jesus took on our sins he cried out MY LORD MY LORD WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME!
I believe the misunderstanding is defining a spiritual body. It's still a body! It's a body no longer weighed down by our sin. If he was sown a natural body and raised a natural body then he wasn't quickened by the Spirit, and we are still in our sins.
We are baptized into Christ resurrection, Christ is the first fruit and the head of the body!
1 Corinthians 15:20.
Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, ( Hebrews 2:9 ) Afterwards there's no need of the natural body!
1 Corinthians 15:54-55
1 Corinthians 15:43. It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: ( This is talking about the body!
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45
We wait to be changed like Christ resurrected body and be redeemed from corruption.
2 Corinthians 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
Romans 8:23. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Thank God for the first fruit because we shall be raised like him.
Hi Cliff. King Solomon is generally ascribed to being the author of Ecclesiastes, though he is not mentioned by name. The following reasons can be given for it: 1:1 (son of David, king of Jerusalem); 1:16 (his unrivalled wisdom); 2:4-6 (extensive building works); 2:7-9 (unequalled wealth). These references generally point to Solomon, since no other descendant of David measured up to such criteria. Even Jewish tradition holds to him as the author. Some have stated that this book was written by an unknown author (post-exile) who used Solomon as his central character. However, no evidence has been found to support this theory.
Yes, the earth will always be inhabited; this is where God's kingdom will be.
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it; he created it not in vain, he formed it to be INHABITED: I AM the Lord, and NONE ELSE.
Ephesians 4:4 ONE Spirit (the Father, God) ...ONE Body (man's body) ...
Ephesians 4:6 ONE Father of ALL (bodies of man).... above ALL (bodies of man)).... through ALL (bodies of man)... and IN YOU ALL (bodies of man).....
1 Corinthians 15:28 .....that God may be ALL in ALL ....
If indeed there was praise everywhere as stated after the Rapture in Revelation 5:13 there wasn't anymore. Fear was apparently for all members of society (v. 15) when they tried to hide in vain in the caves of the earth from God and Christ's wrath. For those who would say that this is a parallel passage to the bowl judgments or trumpet judgments are not dividing the Word very carefully. By the bowl judgments men are trying literally to fight against Christ; and are continually blaspheming His name; making no attempt to veil either their bodies or attitudes from God. The demons have succeeded in total control; no doubt aided by the intoxicating power behind Satan's mark of the Beast.
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. ( Prov. 9:10; etc.) Some will learn from this and repent such as seen in Psalm 64:9. There is a time when it is too late however such as in Psalm 18:41-42. That is in God's hands. For some at the sixth seal it probably is too late; all those not in the Book of Life will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8) and be damned ( Rev. 19:15).
That will no doubt encompass many who continue in sin even after one third of the earth is destroyed and men are tormented by demons ( Rev. 9:21).
I pray that as this study continues as an unworthy servant to reflect the Spirit of God in my words and to have the strength to undertake discussion of these awful realities which are to come upon the earth. May someone even one soul take it to heart and be led to repentance and may readers be as Jeremiah states in chapter 20 verse 9 that His Word is fire in our bones. The enemy does not want our minds to be opened to see what is shortly to come to pass. The apocalyptic day which is worse than any that was and will come ( Jeremiah 30:7; Mark 13:19; Matt. 24:21) is at hand. May we all have a "reality check" and be ready for His return to escape all these things ( Luke 21:36; Rev. 3:10).
This is interesting; I hadn't looked into that book before. There are two intersting facts; apparently the author himself stated that the Hebrew canon was complete and therefore this writing wasn't to be placed in that material. There is practical wisdom that seems ok and tied into scripture except for the lack of belief in judgment in the afterlife. Thus; they were apparently like the Sadducees not believing in the Resurrection.
The clearest verse in scripture is "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." ( 2 Cor. 5:6). There are other verses such as Hebrews 9:27 stating that we are destined to die once then face the judgment. The distinction needs to be made between the body "qeber" in the original language describing the BODY and it's passions sleeping in the dust of the earth and "sheol" which is the underworld where all those who died used to go to until Psalm 68:18 and other verses show that "captivity was made captive."
Christ's sacrifice allowed the souls of the rightous to leave the pleasant side of Sheol (such as seen with the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31) and go to heaven ( 1 Peter 3:18-20). His preaching to the wicked was a declaration or show of victory along with the righteous souls released; many of which appeared after His Resurrection. ( Matt. 27:53). This was a sort of "first" of the firstfruits of whom we will be a part after our living Head Christ went first bodily to heaven.
There are many other verses that could be quoted as well. Soul sleep just isn't scriptural.
Our pastor was discussing this verse with others this morning on the awareness of those who have passed from this earthly tabernacle to heaven before they get their Resurrected bodies.
Some of the Post-Mil camp seem to indicate this is describing all the martyrs of church history.
It could be said that they also are aware of these things; but the SPECIFIC method of beheading seems to be indicated in Revelation 20:4 as well as the clue in verse 11 to be "killed as they were". There is also a distinct time frame "a little while" in verse 11 as well.
Several inferences can be made from this information. First; it is clear that there is anger and probably blame for what is going on from those who still cling tenaciously to the witness of Christ while others are dying in this manner. The resulting event in the sixth seal immediately following shows the awareness of God and the Son and judgment impending.
Secondly; there is no mention yet of the mark of the Beast or even the two prophets at this point. Certainly martyrdom will continue after a pause (possibly being prevented for a large part during the ministry of the 144,000 when the great multitude comes to faith). Since the woman riding the Beast characterizes this time in Rev. 17:7 the false religion of the world is the likely culprit for most of these killings; later Antichrist destroys this system to get all worship for himself then starts his own killing campaign. ( Rev. 17:16). It appears the 5th Trumpet brings the demonic entity that energizes the Antichrist bringing him to life from an apparent deadly wound ( Zech 11:17). All things in their due time.
Revelation 6:5-8 The famine; pestilence; and Death and Hell.
The concept of judgment with the sword; famine and pestilence is clear from Jeremiah 14:12; 27:13 and 42:17; Ezekiel 5:12; 7:15 and 14:21. There are two of these three judgments together in portions of Leviticus and Deuteronomy and certainly other places as well. What is unique here is the pale horse signifying death and the "beasts of the earth". This has been defined as a possible veiled reference to viruses or bacteria; or perhaps literally animals attacking people. What we see in this pale green horse is the power behind all this; men being accelerated to hell (as Isaiah 5:14 states hell has enlarged herself). Matthew 24 also discusses wars and famines and verse 9 gets into the 5th seal of persecution of saints.
In looking at the Restrainer ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7) we also can look at the fact that once removed; not only will wickedness spread at accelerated pace; but also judgments and the rate the lost are being sent to hell. Perhaps the Tribulation believers will be pretty much exempt from these plagues as it seems martyrdom is the most common form of death. There is no specific mention until the trumpet judgments of the 144,000 and possibly others being protected from certain judgments. These verses seem to show by and large lost people are judged this way even BEFORE the mark of the beast is instituted. It is God who ultimately determines the course of pestilence as well as war; and clearly no efforts of man will curb this judgment. Obviously; starvation will not only come from the wars; but by the droughts and other natural disasters unleashed; again mentioned as a particular signs and wonders action the 2 Prophets engage in as "often as they will." ( Rev. 11:6). Again; there appears to be some lag time for these prophets to appear; and perhaps end their ministry just after the midpoint of the 7 years. It is unclear if a delay occurs between the Rapture and first seal as well.
I don't argue that the 24 elders are represantatives of both OT and NT time
a. May Daniel 12:1 refer only to the living Jews at that time and not the ones that died before Christ(?)
B The original text doesn't make things clearer that the English text
c. I agree with you that those with the white garments are lukerwarm christians that didn't make it in the rapture (the 5 unwise virgins), but not only these, they are also people that listened to the angel's preaching and didn't accept the mark of the beast and were consequently slaughtered. Yes, rapture is a reward, so lukermarm christians will have a second chance to make it into eternal life, but it would be extremely hard to withstand the great tribulation. Often a thing is ignored. If the belief that the Holly Spirit is who restrains the antichrist is right, and the HS goes together with the church in Heaven, that means that the gospel as we know it now will not be valid. There will not be any more new birth, nor Baptism in the Spirit, nor sanctification by the Spirit, nor any kind of help from God, a whole new situation for those who stay behind. Salvation will now be aquired by choosing sides, together or against the antichrist, accepting or not accepting the mark. So, can we claim that salvation can be lost, since many that will be left behind will eventually accept the mark?
d. 1 Cor 3:15 about those escaping destruction as through fire is something to be considered before the rapture. The reward will now be rule over nations during the millenium. As it is obvious that since the Spirit goes up, obedience to God's Laws is almost impossible, one escaping from his passions, sinful conditions, will be almost impossible too. Serving God will be also impossible, anything that we consider that increases our wage in Heaven now will be removed. So martyrdom is now the only way to get a reward.
e. Can Hebrews 9:27 be appilied to people like Lazarus who was resurrected by Jesus?. He eventually died twice.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day (the day of the Lord: CHRIST IN YOU) on the mount of Olives, which is before (NEW) Jerusalem (Christ in you, the city made of LIVING stones), and the mount of Olives (which is the new Jerusalem) shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west (symbolic); and there shall be a very great valley (symbolic),and half of the mountain (symbolic) shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
This Mountain (symbolic of the people that make up this mountain); half represents the mount of Jacob and half the mount of Esau.
Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a FIRE (our God is a consuming FIRE: YOU WILL BE: the image of Christ) and the house of Joseph a Flame ( Luke 16:24), and the house of Esau for stubble; and they SHALL KINDLE IN THEM (as Christ did in you), and devour them, and there shall not be remaining any of the house of ESAU ( Zechariah 14:21); for the Lord hath spoken it.
Obadiah 1:21 And saviours (Christ and those called to be HIS IMAGE) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau; and the kingdom SHALL BE the LORD'S.
The called out; I AM the resurrection, will judge the whole world, the mount of Esau, after the resurrection of the dead.
Isaiah 26:9 ...for when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Hebrews 11:20 By faith Issac blessed Jacob and Esau CONCERNING THINGS TO COME.
Genesis 27:40 And by thy (Esau's) sword (not God's sword; the word) shalt thy live (and DIE, and at the resurrection of the dead thou shall ) SERVE THY BROTHER; and it shall COME TO PASS (when God's words shall be fulfilled) that thou (also) SHALT HAVE the dominion (the kingdom of God, Christ in you), that thou (through judgement) shall BREAK HIS YOKE from off your neck.
Psalms 22:All the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER ( Luke 16:25 ...Remember) and turn unto the LORD: (when his judgements are in the earth)
The first seal involves a rider with a bow but no arrows. We need to read Daniel to see more specific descriptions of this "man of intrigue" who "through peace destroys many" and "divides the land for gain." He apparently is into the occult as he "understands dark sentences." It appears there are other clues about his character with the "Assyrian" in Isaiah; the descriptions of the fatal wound that occurs later in his career in Zechariah; and even some hints that are in Habakkuk as to his character; and those describing the "son of perdition" that describe both Judas Iscariot and Christ. (See also 2 Thessalonians 2:3; John 17:12).
In any event; there will be a period of illusory peace as verse 2 describes it being "taken from the earth." It wouldn't be all that surprising that for a short time the world is in such a state of shock from the Rapture/Resurrection that they are relatively submissive to the "man with the answers." It wouldn't be surprising if he promised not only world peace; but prosperity by eliminating all the nation's debt and introducing a worldwide currency such as the gold standard before the mark of the beast ( Dan. 11:43).
The red horse says nothing about armies or organized military campaigns. It has been said this is equivalent to "kingdom against kingdom" ( Matt. 24:7) indicating ethnic groups. It certainly could be the next stage or preliminary setup to the military conquests of Antichrist.
Even savage one on one combat in the end combined with famine and pestilence kills one fourth of the earth. Anyone who compares this to past events or doesn't think it is too bad compared to other judgments is seriously underplaying obvious meaning or just plain out of their minds. We may have foreshadowing now but once the birth pangs get started they continue to get worse with each wave. There is no more delay as Ezekiel 12 and Rev. 10:6 and other verses indicate.
Hello Don , nice to meet you . I'm new here also . It's a great site , lots of interesting opinions and interpretations . Plenty of food for thought . Hope to read more from you .
There are two basic interpretations of the white horse that of being Antichrist (which I subscribe to); or Christ. Because Post-Millennials (who think that the church is currently fulfilling the 1000 year reign; clearly symbolically with almost 2000 years since the crucifixion) ascribe this conquering king to Christ they also take the time frame in Revelation as having been at least partially fulfilled. This is due to the belief in only one general Resurrection (despite obvious differences in the descriptions); jamming everything related to the events of the Second coming to those of the Great White Throne judgment; in other words no time frame after Armageddon for an earthly reign of Christ; and an immediate new heaven and earth. This forces clear verses in Isaiah about a man dying at less than 100 being accursed; other verses about those who don't worship the Lord not having rain; and of course a literal rebuilt Temple. With this mindset at an extreme level we find those who are into the Dominionist mindset; that Christ can't return or won't until things keep getting more and more Christian and better and better. Often a literal Antichrist isn't believed in at all; which begs the question for those not spiritually discerned if they will believe that he indeed IS the Christ. Full Preterists who think He is already here in some form will fall for it no doubt.
Further supplementing my point is the common thread whether in Islam with the 12th Imam; the New Age Maitreya; or the Jews who Christ stated point blank would believe another coming in his own name ( John 5:43). He will be another great orator like Hitler; conqueror like Napolean; and therefore fulfill the statements made by the Club of Rome in 1957 about "whether God or the devil we will receive him" when discussing the need for a leader to rule.
It is clear from Daniel and other prophecies that there is yet a final future ruler to come.
Being given a godly mother is the best gift in the world. Knowing God gave you to each other. This is how we learn, Gods heart of Love. Scripture declares, God is Love.
We may not always understand what He is building within us, but someday we'll see His work.
Genesis 3:12 And the man Adam said,"The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent
[Satan] beguiled/wholly seduced me, and I did eat."
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity/construct between thee and the woman, and between thy [Satan's] seed and her Seed; Christ shall bruise thy head [vital part], and thou shalt bruise His heel [lower part]."
16 Unto the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception [pregnancy]; in sorrow [painful
toil] thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be subject to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the SERPENT BEGUILED EVE THROUGH HIS SUBTILTY, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Who's the serpent? Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Matthew 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Serpent Seed cont: The subject of John 8 is of the serpents seed
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
I recently heard a sermon on the moody channel about mental illness. What is meant by the word and how it affects us.
The sermon was about the words we hear and how we respond to it. A condition that if not taken seriously can seriously impair us, leaving us in a desperate condition of the mind. Running away from help, instead of too it.
That said, my experience of what is most needful, is a constant rescue from the H.G...
The world, though filled with misperception, or the conception of such deliverance, is most vital in any true believing Christian.
This help found in Him (the Holy Ghost).
One must constantly observe and be ready for the next attack on the mind. Satan always lurking about ready to attack at any moment.
Once he has the mind, the heart will follow.
The warring that we are presented with, can come in many forms, times, places, and or people.
So, "mental illness" could be characterized, as a condition of survival of the mind.
This our survival being the mind of Christ! We cannot live outside of Him! Vital to the survival of the mind!
A person who has the mind of Christ then, even though He may be mentally ill in the worlds mind, is in fact a warrior, for the kingdom of God!
The docs. the theologians (Pharisees), who think they have the ability to diagnose these symptoms, may in fact have no idea of what mentally illness is at all. And should remember the words, context, context, context. Repent and be Baptized
Dear God the Father in Heaven. We thank You God for having created Heaven and Earth. You saw and made everything God, no one can compare with You. You are outstanding. Hallelujah! We know that You give out the Holy Spirit to the person who asks to get Him. The Holy Spirit is the third in Your Relationship God. Your Son Jesus Christ had to give up His Spirit to make all things perfect for us. We pray in Jesus Christ name for "Texsis" Lord for gifts of love, for faith that can move mountains, for security in You Lord Jesus. That "Texsis" always trusts in You Lord. Let "Texsis" hunger for Your Word, Lord, to get to know You more. Thank you Jesus for saving us all, and to hear our pray, Amen.
SwordBearer I agree its all in our minds our hearts etc....Jesus said out of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil...We war in the spirit....And our new heart and new spirit is in our minds....But this new heart and new spirit is a living being which is the H.G. The Child of Promise...That New Creature.... Gal. 6:15 ...Nothin availeth any thing in Christ Jesus but a new CREATURE....Not circumcision nor uncircumcision..only a new a creature which is the H.G. A baby Christ...Thats y we must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed....Thats y he is saying unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child impling a new Birth of a baby Christ in us which is that New HEART and new Spirit....Our new innerman has to be born in us....Plz note the Kingdom of God does not come till the woman births the manchild....Which is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE....Thats what the New Covenant is an intimacy with humanity...Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains Jeremiah 30 :6...I will KNOW KNOW them all from the least to the greatest Which is gonna result in a birth of Christ in everybody....And this intimacy/KNOWLEDGE is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...As Jesus said if i be lifted up I will draw ALL ALL men unto me....When Daniel saw the New Covenant the book he describes it as WORDS OF WONDER....In Daniel 12 :6 ....Its my belief that the reason he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN....Is b/c mankind is gonna birth a Baby Christ which is spirit the H.G.....Thats y he said that which is born born of the Spirit is spirit...Thats the H.G....That Child of Promise...The Kingdom unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....gb
Dear "Jesse" i agree with you here. Because as long as God's Spirit is on earth, He will not destroy the one or those who live here. Then a few years remain for the doubters to come to God and as everyone knows it will be a terrible time. But some will make it, those are the ones mentioned in Revelation 20:4. Some will probably disagree with this. But read it sometimes, pray over it and see. We're not there yet. Should now the mark of the beast come shortly. We all have little time to survive, right? Until then, may we be confident in God's promises. Love each other deeply and forgive each other. Then everything will be fine, i Jesus name. God bless you all in Jesus, i love you all in Christ. Stay strong in the word. Act 1
Acts 1:9 ....and he was taken up; and a CLOUD received him (Christ the GLORIFIED BODY out of their sight;
INTO MAN: his BODY).
Christ was taken into (NEW) heaven: MAN the BODY of CHRIST.
The CLOUD: the Glory and Presence of God ABIDING in, and on, God's temple.
Exodus 40:38 For the CLOUD of the Lord was upon the tabernacle (temple of God) by day, and FIRE (Hebrew 12:29) by night .....
2 Corinthians 6:16 ....for ye are the temple of the LIVING GOD ......
Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY .....Christ in you .... HIS BODY .....HIS TEMPLE .....HIS LIFE ....HIS TRUTH...
Romans 8:29 .... to be CONFORMED (by the NEW BIRTH) to the IMAGE OF CHRIST ....
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the eyes of them WHICH BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL, should shine unto them.
Psalms 82:6 I (the word) have SAID; ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, TO WHOM the WORD of God CAME, the scripture CANNOT be broken.
Luke 9:23 .... If any man will come after me (the second coming of Christ: IN YOU) let him will DENY HIMSELF and take up his cross (first death) and follow ME (I AM the resurrection).
Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE Spirit (the Father) ....ONE Body (Man) ......
Christ the firstborn among many BRETHREN (the image of Christ).
Dear "T. Anderson", I actually think that many people are unfair to Trump, and hate it. And the Lord Himself will repay that injustice. Remember that there are many who love him too. And it is no wonder that then the media image of Trump. Always shows a picture when he makes some faces. Absolutely fantastic that they manage to snap the worst ones too! Many times i think is it a photo shop picture ? Should Trump wear a mask? I understand what you mean, but don't think so. We will probably see it clearly the day it appears. And in any case, I hope you're wrong.
I hope that everything goes your way and may God grant you a long and happy life . A very moving post thank you for your example of courage and faith .
Thank all of y'all who were guided to respond. It means so much to me to feel heard. I appreciate any prayer for my life, my health, my restoration, and please go on.. but if I may ask for specific prayers for my young twin daughters? Their names are Bonnie and Baylee, and they are 8 years old. Beautiful, smart and tender hearted, and so far they love Jesus! Unfortunately we lost their daddy and my husband in a car accident when they were only 15 months old. It hasn't been easy, and I know it might be a long while until there are better times ahead. All because of the clarity the Lord gave me throughout yesterday and today, I am finally beginning to really really be at peace with God's purpose for my life, and wether he restores my health or ends my life on earth I will rejoice in His promises because now I KNOW Jesus is using my life to glorify His name, and I pray it can be used so others can receive Jesus like I have!, I just pray PLEASE Lord, that my girls see Christ through me. I can't say how much it would mean to me that anyone would see fit to lift up my daughters in prayer at my request. And I ask for this of anyone who will, because I am the best at forgetting to focus on Jesus and not on myself. And I fall back to being a poor example of the Living Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no more time for me to be a lukewarm Christian. They have to know their mommas life was made rich complete because of God's goodness!I'm still rambling like a crazy person, and I thank y'all for not laughing or judging how desperate I am in my spirit for God's grace to continue this raining on me. Thank you God for being ALMIGHTY and POWERFUL. Jesus ALONE is worthy of praise. Amen.
Your words have truly ministered to my heart. You have shared with us a perfect example of what it means to place one's complete trust in Jesus Christ. You have reminded me of what it means to remain under our circumstances, no matter how hard those circumstances might be, and knowing that the Lord oftentimes places hardships in our lives in order to teach us how to trust in Him. You've demonstrated that trust. I can't see how anyone reading your words would not be blessed by them. Your words have caused me to examine my own walk with Christ, and for that I say thank you. My prayers are with you as you deal with cancer. I lift you up to the Lord and pray for His will to be done in your life. May He continue to strengthen you and guide you in every path that He sets before you.
It was not a dilemma for the apostle Paul. In Philippians 1:21, Paul's philosophy was that for him, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. I like that!
Paul says in Philippians 1:22, but if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. (That is, I do not know).
In Philippians 1:23-24, he says, "For I am in a strait between two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more necessary for you.
Reading through Verses 25 & 26, what Paul seems to be saying is that he really would like to go be with the Lord. Paul's life was not the kind of life that you want to stick around for, you know? Unless you like being in prison and creating riots, like Paul.
But Paul says I really would like to go be with the Lord. It has much more priority for me and desire than here.
Some of us have trouble giving up our life here for Christ because this life means "so much" to us.
And Paul says for me to live is Christ. If I have to stay here, then that's what my life is going to be about, Jesus Christ, and to minister to those so that they can have a furtherance, or advancement, and satisfaction of faith.
So he says in that you would rejoice in Christ for me coming to you again.
I haven't followed this post or many others due to out of town business.
I think you are spot on. Jesus was resurrected a spiritual body and you gave good supporting scripture.
1 Corinthians 15:44. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Jesus was sown ith our iniquities on him, He wouldn't be raised that same sinful body and go into the presence of the Father. When Jesus took on our sins he cried out MY LORD MY LORD WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME!
I believe the misunderstanding is defining a spiritual body. It's still a body! It's a body no longer weighed down by our sin. If he was sown a natural body and raised a natural body then he wasn't quickened by the Spirit, and we are still in our sins.
We are baptized into Christ resurrection, Christ is the first fruit and the head of the body!
1 Corinthians 15:20.
Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, ( Hebrews 2:9 ) Afterwards there's no need of the natural body!
1 Corinthians 15:54-55
1 Corinthians 15:43. It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: ( This is talking about the body!
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45
We wait to be changed like Christ resurrected body and be redeemed from corruption.
2 Corinthians 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
Romans 8:23. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Thank God for the first fruit because we shall be raised like him.
God bless.
Yes, the earth will always be inhabited; this is where God's kingdom will be.
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it; he created it not in vain, he formed it to be INHABITED: I AM the Lord, and NONE ELSE.
Ephesians 4:4 ONE Spirit (the Father, God) ...ONE Body (man's body) ...
Ephesians 4:6 ONE Father of ALL (bodies of man).... above ALL (bodies of man)).... through ALL (bodies of man)... and IN YOU ALL (bodies of man).....
1 Corinthians 15:28 .....that God may be ALL in ALL ....
God's earth "WILL BE" PERFECTLY INHABITED.
God Bless YOU, Christ's body.
If indeed there was praise everywhere as stated after the Rapture in Revelation 5:13 there wasn't anymore. Fear was apparently for all members of society (v. 15) when they tried to hide in vain in the caves of the earth from God and Christ's wrath. For those who would say that this is a parallel passage to the bowl judgments or trumpet judgments are not dividing the Word very carefully. By the bowl judgments men are trying literally to fight against Christ; and are continually blaspheming His name; making no attempt to veil either their bodies or attitudes from God. The demons have succeeded in total control; no doubt aided by the intoxicating power behind Satan's mark of the Beast.
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. ( Prov. 9:10; etc.) Some will learn from this and repent such as seen in Psalm 64:9. There is a time when it is too late however such as in Psalm 18:41-42. That is in God's hands. For some at the sixth seal it probably is too late; all those not in the Book of Life will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8) and be damned ( Rev. 19:15).
That will no doubt encompass many who continue in sin even after one third of the earth is destroyed and men are tormented by demons ( Rev. 9:21).
I pray that as this study continues as an unworthy servant to reflect the Spirit of God in my words and to have the strength to undertake discussion of these awful realities which are to come upon the earth. May someone even one soul take it to heart and be led to repentance and may readers be as Jeremiah states in chapter 20 verse 9 that His Word is fire in our bones. The enemy does not want our minds to be opened to see what is shortly to come to pass. The apocalyptic day which is worse than any that was and will come ( Jeremiah 30:7; Mark 13:19; Matt. 24:21) is at hand. May we all have a "reality check" and be ready for His return to escape all these things ( Luke 21:36; Rev. 3:10).
The clearest verse in scripture is "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." ( 2 Cor. 5:6). There are other verses such as Hebrews 9:27 stating that we are destined to die once then face the judgment. The distinction needs to be made between the body "qeber" in the original language describing the BODY and it's passions sleeping in the dust of the earth and "sheol" which is the underworld where all those who died used to go to until Psalm 68:18 and other verses show that "captivity was made captive."
Christ's sacrifice allowed the souls of the rightous to leave the pleasant side of Sheol (such as seen with the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31) and go to heaven ( 1 Peter 3:18-20). His preaching to the wicked was a declaration or show of victory along with the righteous souls released; many of which appeared after His Resurrection. ( Matt. 27:53). This was a sort of "first" of the firstfruits of whom we will be a part after our living Head Christ went first bodily to heaven.
There are many other verses that could be quoted as well. Soul sleep just isn't scriptural.
Agape; Rich P.
Our pastor was discussing this verse with others this morning on the awareness of those who have passed from this earthly tabernacle to heaven before they get their Resurrected bodies.
Some of the Post-Mil camp seem to indicate this is describing all the martyrs of church history.
It could be said that they also are aware of these things; but the SPECIFIC method of beheading seems to be indicated in Revelation 20:4 as well as the clue in verse 11 to be "killed as they were". There is also a distinct time frame "a little while" in verse 11 as well.
Several inferences can be made from this information. First; it is clear that there is anger and probably blame for what is going on from those who still cling tenaciously to the witness of Christ while others are dying in this manner. The resulting event in the sixth seal immediately following shows the awareness of God and the Son and judgment impending.
Secondly; there is no mention yet of the mark of the Beast or even the two prophets at this point. Certainly martyrdom will continue after a pause (possibly being prevented for a large part during the ministry of the 144,000 when the great multitude comes to faith). Since the woman riding the Beast characterizes this time in Rev. 17:7 the false religion of the world is the likely culprit for most of these killings; later Antichrist destroys this system to get all worship for himself then starts his own killing campaign. ( Rev. 17:16). It appears the 5th Trumpet brings the demonic entity that energizes the Antichrist bringing him to life from an apparent deadly wound ( Zech 11:17). All things in their due time.
The concept of judgment with the sword; famine and pestilence is clear from Jeremiah 14:12; 27:13 and 42:17; Ezekiel 5:12; 7:15 and 14:21. There are two of these three judgments together in portions of Leviticus and Deuteronomy and certainly other places as well. What is unique here is the pale horse signifying death and the "beasts of the earth". This has been defined as a possible veiled reference to viruses or bacteria; or perhaps literally animals attacking people. What we see in this pale green horse is the power behind all this; men being accelerated to hell (as Isaiah 5:14 states hell has enlarged herself). Matthew 24 also discusses wars and famines and verse 9 gets into the 5th seal of persecution of saints.
In looking at the Restrainer ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7) we also can look at the fact that once removed; not only will wickedness spread at accelerated pace; but also judgments and the rate the lost are being sent to hell. Perhaps the Tribulation believers will be pretty much exempt from these plagues as it seems martyrdom is the most common form of death. There is no specific mention until the trumpet judgments of the 144,000 and possibly others being protected from certain judgments. These verses seem to show by and large lost people are judged this way even BEFORE the mark of the beast is instituted. It is God who ultimately determines the course of pestilence as well as war; and clearly no efforts of man will curb this judgment. Obviously; starvation will not only come from the wars; but by the droughts and other natural disasters unleashed; again mentioned as a particular signs and wonders action the 2 Prophets engage in as "often as they will." ( Rev. 11:6). Again; there appears to be some lag time for these prophets to appear; and perhaps end their ministry just after the midpoint of the 7 years. It is unclear if a delay occurs between the Rapture and first seal as well.
Lording or ruling over God's flock, making themselves the head of the church in which Christ is the head. Those are the deeds God says He hates.
Jesus Christ is the head of the church and no man or men can ever take His place. That's what they were doing, and the Lord says He hates that!
I don't argue that the 24 elders are represantatives of both OT and NT time
a. May Daniel 12:1 refer only to the living Jews at that time and not the ones that died before Christ(?)
B The original text doesn't make things clearer that the English text
c. I agree with you that those with the white garments are lukerwarm christians that didn't make it in the rapture (the 5 unwise virgins), but not only these, they are also people that listened to the angel's preaching and didn't accept the mark of the beast and were consequently slaughtered. Yes, rapture is a reward, so lukermarm christians will have a second chance to make it into eternal life, but it would be extremely hard to withstand the great tribulation. Often a thing is ignored. If the belief that the Holly Spirit is who restrains the antichrist is right, and the HS goes together with the church in Heaven, that means that the gospel as we know it now will not be valid. There will not be any more new birth, nor Baptism in the Spirit, nor sanctification by the Spirit, nor any kind of help from God, a whole new situation for those who stay behind. Salvation will now be aquired by choosing sides, together or against the antichrist, accepting or not accepting the mark. So, can we claim that salvation can be lost, since many that will be left behind will eventually accept the mark?
d. 1 Cor 3:15 about those escaping destruction as through fire is something to be considered before the rapture. The reward will now be rule over nations during the millenium. As it is obvious that since the Spirit goes up, obedience to God's Laws is almost impossible, one escaping from his passions, sinful conditions, will be almost impossible too. Serving God will be also impossible, anything that we consider that increases our wage in Heaven now will be removed. So martyrdom is now the only way to get a reward.
e. Can Hebrews 9:27 be appilied to people like Lazarus who was resurrected by Jesus?. He eventually died twice.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day (the day of the Lord: CHRIST IN YOU) on the mount of Olives, which is before (NEW) Jerusalem (Christ in you, the city made of LIVING stones), and the mount of Olives (which is the new Jerusalem) shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west (symbolic); and there shall be a very great valley (symbolic),and half of the mountain (symbolic) shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
This Mountain (symbolic of the people that make up this mountain); half represents the mount of Jacob and half the mount of Esau.
Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a FIRE (our God is a consuming FIRE: YOU WILL BE: the image of Christ) and the house of Joseph a Flame ( Luke 16:24), and the house of Esau for stubble; and they SHALL KINDLE IN THEM (as Christ did in you), and devour them, and there shall not be remaining any of the house of ESAU ( Zechariah 14:21); for the Lord hath spoken it.
Obadiah 1:21 And saviours (Christ and those called to be HIS IMAGE) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau; and the kingdom SHALL BE the LORD'S.
The called out; I AM the resurrection, will judge the whole world, the mount of Esau, after the resurrection of the dead.
Isaiah 26:9 ...for when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Hebrews 11:20 By faith Issac blessed Jacob and Esau CONCERNING THINGS TO COME.
Genesis 27:40 And by thy (Esau's) sword (not God's sword; the word) shalt thy live (and DIE, and at the resurrection of the dead thou shall ) SERVE THY BROTHER; and it shall COME TO PASS (when God's words shall be fulfilled) that thou (also) SHALT HAVE the dominion (the kingdom of God, Christ in you), that thou (through judgement) shall BREAK HIS YOKE from off your neck.
Psalms 22:All the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER ( Luke 16:25 ...Remember) and turn unto the LORD: (when his judgements are in the earth)
I'm in a dilemma as to what happens to one's soul after death?
Thank you
The first seal involves a rider with a bow but no arrows. We need to read Daniel to see more specific descriptions of this "man of intrigue" who "through peace destroys many" and "divides the land for gain." He apparently is into the occult as he "understands dark sentences." It appears there are other clues about his character with the "Assyrian" in Isaiah; the descriptions of the fatal wound that occurs later in his career in Zechariah; and even some hints that are in Habakkuk as to his character; and those describing the "son of perdition" that describe both Judas Iscariot and Christ. (See also 2 Thessalonians 2:3; John 17:12).
In any event; there will be a period of illusory peace as verse 2 describes it being "taken from the earth." It wouldn't be all that surprising that for a short time the world is in such a state of shock from the Rapture/Resurrection that they are relatively submissive to the "man with the answers." It wouldn't be surprising if he promised not only world peace; but prosperity by eliminating all the nation's debt and introducing a worldwide currency such as the gold standard before the mark of the beast ( Dan. 11:43).
The red horse says nothing about armies or organized military campaigns. It has been said this is equivalent to "kingdom against kingdom" ( Matt. 24:7) indicating ethnic groups. It certainly could be the next stage or preliminary setup to the military conquests of Antichrist.
Even savage one on one combat in the end combined with famine and pestilence kills one fourth of the earth. Anyone who compares this to past events or doesn't think it is too bad compared to other judgments is seriously underplaying obvious meaning or just plain out of their minds. We may have foreshadowing now but once the birth pangs get started they continue to get worse with each wave. There is no more delay as Ezekiel 12 and Rev. 10:6 and other verses indicate.
There are two basic interpretations of the white horse that of being Antichrist (which I subscribe to); or Christ. Because Post-Millennials (who think that the church is currently fulfilling the 1000 year reign; clearly symbolically with almost 2000 years since the crucifixion) ascribe this conquering king to Christ they also take the time frame in Revelation as having been at least partially fulfilled. This is due to the belief in only one general Resurrection (despite obvious differences in the descriptions); jamming everything related to the events of the Second coming to those of the Great White Throne judgment; in other words no time frame after Armageddon for an earthly reign of Christ; and an immediate new heaven and earth. This forces clear verses in Isaiah about a man dying at less than 100 being accursed; other verses about those who don't worship the Lord not having rain; and of course a literal rebuilt Temple. With this mindset at an extreme level we find those who are into the Dominionist mindset; that Christ can't return or won't until things keep getting more and more Christian and better and better. Often a literal Antichrist isn't believed in at all; which begs the question for those not spiritually discerned if they will believe that he indeed IS the Christ. Full Preterists who think He is already here in some form will fall for it no doubt.
Further supplementing my point is the common thread whether in Islam with the 12th Imam; the New Age Maitreya; or the Jews who Christ stated point blank would believe another coming in his own name ( John 5:43). He will be another great orator like Hitler; conqueror like Napolean; and therefore fulfill the statements made by the Club of Rome in 1957 about "whether God or the devil we will receive him" when discussing the need for a leader to rule.
It is clear from Daniel and other prophecies that there is yet a final future ruler to come.
We may not always understand what He is building within us, but someday we'll see His work.
Genesis 3:12 And the man Adam said,"The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent
[Satan] beguiled/wholly seduced me, and I did eat."
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity/construct between thee and the woman, and between thy [Satan's] seed and her Seed; Christ shall bruise thy head [vital part], and thou shalt bruise His heel [lower part]."
16 Unto the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception [pregnancy]; in sorrow [painful
toil] thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be subject to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the SERPENT BEGUILED EVE THROUGH HIS SUBTILTY, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Who's the serpent? Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Matthew 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
The sermon was about the words we hear and how we respond to it. A condition that if not taken seriously can seriously impair us, leaving us in a desperate condition of the mind. Running away from help, instead of too it.
That said, my experience of what is most needful, is a constant rescue from the H.G...
The world, though filled with misperception, or the conception of such deliverance, is most vital in any true believing Christian.
This help found in Him (the Holy Ghost).
One must constantly observe and be ready for the next attack on the mind. Satan always lurking about ready to attack at any moment.
Once he has the mind, the heart will follow.
The warring that we are presented with, can come in many forms, times, places, and or people.
So, "mental illness" could be characterized, as a condition of survival of the mind.
This our survival being the mind of Christ! We cannot live outside of Him! Vital to the survival of the mind!
A person who has the mind of Christ then, even though He may be mentally ill in the worlds mind, is in fact a warrior, for the kingdom of God!
The docs. the theologians (Pharisees), who think they have the ability to diagnose these symptoms, may in fact have no idea of what mentally illness is at all. And should remember the words, context, context, context. Repent and be Baptized
Acts 1:9 ....and he was taken up; and a CLOUD received him (Christ the GLORIFIED BODY out of their sight;
INTO MAN: his BODY).
Christ was taken into (NEW) heaven: MAN the BODY of CHRIST.
The CLOUD: the Glory and Presence of God ABIDING in, and on, God's temple.
Exodus 40:38 For the CLOUD of the Lord was upon the tabernacle (temple of God) by day, and FIRE (Hebrew 12:29) by night .....
2 Corinthians 6:16 ....for ye are the temple of the LIVING GOD ......
Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY .....Christ in you .... HIS BODY .....HIS TEMPLE .....HIS LIFE ....HIS TRUTH...
Romans 8:29 .... to be CONFORMED (by the NEW BIRTH) to the IMAGE OF CHRIST ....
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the eyes of them WHICH BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL, should shine unto them.
Psalms 82:6 I (the word) have SAID; ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, TO WHOM the WORD of God CAME, the scripture CANNOT be broken.
Luke 9:23 .... If any man will come after me (the second coming of Christ: IN YOU) let him will DENY HIMSELF and take up his cross (first death) and follow ME (I AM the resurrection).
Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE Spirit (the Father) ....ONE Body (Man) ......
Christ the firstborn among many BRETHREN (the image of Christ).
God Bless you (the body Christ).
God bless u in Jesus name i love u i Christ Act 1