I would say that if the Lord is putting it on someone's heart and persuading them to gamble with their money, than it should be okay for that person. I do not gamble because the Lord has put it on my heart not to gamble. I cannot speak for anyone else because if the Lord is leading them to gamble, who am I to say it is wrong for that person.
I do agree with GiGi that it can take over a person's will power and ruin a life. I have seen it happen to some people who were close to me.
In anything we do, and it doesn't even need to be gambling, it can be anything, but whatever it it, does it glorify God?
I'm probably the oddball here, but I always like to fall back on Romans 14:23 which says, "That which is not of faith is sin."
That word faith literally means persuasion. That's what faith means, persuasion. So if I keep that in mind, anything I do, apart from God's persuasion (Persuading me to do whatever it is I'm doing), for me that would be sin.
John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
1 John 2:2. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.
Revelation 22:17. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let HIM THAT HEARETH say, Come. And let HIM THAT IS A THIRST come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him take the water of life freely.
Romans 10:9-10. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, AND SHALT BELIEVE IN THINE HEART that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
I did some reading some time ago about the Nicolaitans and this man, Nicolas was a proselyte from Antioch. Many believe, and from the history of this man, that he eventually left God's work somewhere down the line and he gathered his own following.
Nicolas is mentioned in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community.
Some historical documents say that Nicolas left the church and became a Gnostic, and began spreading false teaching.
And because his name is Nicolas, they were called the Nicolaitans. They were followers of Nicolas, and the trail leads back, at least to the historians and the archaeologists, to this Nicolas of Antioch. Just a side note!
I do thank you for your thoughts on both Koine and modern Greek. Some of the Greek you have shared has helped me out.
Were you testing the waters, I feel you have more to add than you ask. I will check out the book. The truth is simple, but we as mankind kick up the dust of wisdom and make it hard to see.
Thank you for the information. Since Scripture didn't really explain the teachings of the Nicolatians, we may not know definitively what they taught and practiced that was so egregious to the Lord.
This was walking distance close to Jerusalem. The New Testament gives no indication Jesus ever had any transportation other than boat or on foot. A think that was pretty much the same for most people then. (Exception was when he arrived in Jerusalem before the crucifixion riding on the donkey. What has been termed by churches as Palm Sunday) By all evidence Jesus never visited any major city. He never was more than 200 miles from his home area and around the Sea of Galilee. Highly recommend "What If Jesus had Never Been Born by D. James Kennedy & Jerry Newcombe.
Jesus and the apostles walked or at times took a boat. No need for Health Clubs when you walk every day and for the distances they did.
Thanks for everyone's contribution. This is a wonderful venue.
I, too, think that it is ok to participate in gambling. However, like other things (alcohol intake) it can take over someone's willpower and bring ruin to one's life.
But some can gamble as a kind of entertainment and not spend more than they intend and their winnings and losings balance out. My Mom was one who was able to play bingo or other types of gambling with self-control. She kept track of her winnings and losings and pretty much stayed even. So, as entertainment, it was money spent for that. She did not go to movies, out to dinner, or most other types of entertainment.
But other people may be more prone to risk taking in many areas of their life, gambling being one of them. It is not the act of gambling that is wrong, it is the need for risk taking that leads to sin.
Yes, Paul is the apostle whose evangelism to the Gentiles are recorded in his epistles and Acts. He also evangelized Jews that were dispersed in the areas he evangelized. At a specific time, he stopped preaching in the synagogues, but when he was preaching to crowds, there most likely were Jews among those who listened.
Also, some of the 12 apostles also evangelized to peoples in areas that had many Gentiles. So Paul was not the only one who evangelized the Gentiles. We just don't have recorded in Scripture what the other apostles did and where they preached.
Verse 6-The is great power in God's name. Jehovah God can become or cause anyone or anything to become what is needed in order to accomplish His purpose.
Verse 28-Eliab became angry with David and accused him of having bad intentions, but David didn't respond harshly or run away but instead he courageously stood up and fought Goliath.
There an time when God Spoke unto me with His great Holy voice and with authority and power and there was an time when mine Lord Spoke unto me NO WHAT YOU BELIEVE ARE MAN'S RULES AND LAW'S AND NOT MINE OWN WHAT DOES MY WRITTEN WORD SAY ? And I felt as if mine Lord was making known me that He would me read His written Word and I had thought what am I going to do try and read through the whole Bible to try and find what it is He is trying to show me and then I had thought oh well I'll try and I had believed there to be a Bible lying on the floor next to me and when I looked to my left to try and see if I could see The Bible there right next to me was what appeared unto me as bright shimmering light's and as I leaned backwards it was revealed unto me that it was a portal/Porter/Gate way and on The other side was an open Book of scripture sitting on a table in someone else's Home and I moved and got before it for at the first it was to the side of me and at the first I had seen it from the same side so I moved and gotten in front of it and I read all of the herb's and erbs of thee Earth are for man to eat and CONSUME.
One evangelist gives some details that the other doesn't. So it seems in the beginning they both mocked Jesus. But as time passed by, one of them was moved by Jesus' behavior on the cross and changed his mind. God's provision allowed for four gospels to be written, so that one complements the others and we have the full story..GBU
God's people needed to humble themselves and change their ways to what was acceptable to Him. Jehovah God would then pour out his blessing on his people and they would be restored to favor.
Galatians 1:15 But when it pleased God, Who set apart me from my mother's womb, and called me unto His grace,
16 To reveal His Son in me, in order that I might preach Him among the Gentiles ; immediately I conferred not with any human being:
Paul is stating how God chose(set apart)him before he was born, and called him unto grace to reveal Jesus in Him/Paul to preach salvation among the Gentiles.
God chose Paul before he was born to teach the Son of GOD/GOD to the gentiles, that person is wrong,,,
All the Apostles/prophets were chosen before the their mothers womb,,,, they are the set aside one's
I personally think gambling is fine and not a sin as long as it does not come between you and God and is not a stronghold, is not an addiction or a love, and is not through "vanity." Proverbs 13:11. Strong's says vanity is something transitory or unsatisfactory. Others translate this into dishonesty or fraud. I'm currently not thinking this applies to wagering money, but perhaps tax collecting, crooked attorneys, ponzi schemes, surprise fees, billing department dishonesty, or perhaps other activities that are illegal and deceive and harm people.
My personal view on this is that all of life involves risk and not just with money, but with our time, relationships, activities, work, etc. Naturally we try to mitigate risk and seize opportunities. Investing is Biblical, but involves risk, such as the stock market. Buying insurance is betting against yourself, so that's gambling too. So does trying a new restaurant or accepting a new job or moving. So, in my current understanding I don't believe gambling is a sin, but I am open to anyone's Bible verses to support another view and specifically what someone thinks wealth through vanity means. God bless.
Thanks GiGi. My name Giannis is sort for Ioannes, in Hebrew Yohannan or Johanan, in English John. In Hebrew it means God's present. Nice name, probably the most common name in Greece for males.
About Nicolaitans one can find s lot of information on the internet. Many christian historians write about them but it seems they don't always agree with one another. It seems it was a mixture of a mystic philosophy and christianity probably the same as gnosticism. It probably had to do with allowing fornication in the church or something like that. It must have been something really terrible so Jesus said He hates their works. Like today's many so called christian cults that use Jesus name to propagate evil practices. That shows that if we do not guard our faith many weird things may come in.
It will probably have a different meaning to whoever is reading it. It is a book about wisdom and how to live wisely, the family, life, death, prayer, pride, knowledge, trust, discipline, maybe even stumping your toe, I could go on. If you have not read it, you need to. Many times, if we are struggling with something in our life the Holy Spirit can highlight words that will help, it is like the words stand up out of the page. You can see yourself in it, you can see God in it, you can see Jesus in it, and you can see many answers, directions, conformations, and most things we deal with in our life.
I don't know how far you were allowed to walk on the sabbath day. People had to feed and water their animals every day, including the sabbath, they prepared their meals, which meant possibly carrying water from the well for them and the livestock.
The Mt. of Olives is about a half mile from Jerusalem, so I would suppose you could travel about a half of a mile on the sabbath.
A sabbath days journey.
Take this comment with a grain of salt, my opinion, there are others with more knowledge of Old Israel.
I would say that if the Lord is putting it on someone's heart and persuading them to gamble with their money, than it should be okay for that person. I do not gamble because the Lord has put it on my heart not to gamble. I cannot speak for anyone else because if the Lord is leading them to gamble, who am I to say it is wrong for that person.
I do agree with GiGi that it can take over a person's will power and ruin a life. I have seen it happen to some people who were close to me.
In anything we do, and it doesn't even need to be gambling, it can be anything, but whatever it it, does it glorify God?
I'm probably the oddball here, but I always like to fall back on Romans 14:23 which says, "That which is not of faith is sin."
That word faith literally means persuasion. That's what faith means, persuasion. So if I keep that in mind, anything I do, apart from God's persuasion (Persuading me to do whatever it is I'm doing), for me that would be sin.
Salvation goes out to everyone.
John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
1 John 2:2. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.
Revelation 22:17. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let HIM THAT HEARETH say, Come. And let HIM THAT IS A THIRST come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him take the water of life freely.
Romans 10:9-10. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, AND SHALT BELIEVE IN THINE HEART that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
I did some reading some time ago about the Nicolaitans and this man, Nicolas was a proselyte from Antioch. Many believe, and from the history of this man, that he eventually left God's work somewhere down the line and he gathered his own following.
Nicolas is mentioned in Acts 6:5. He's one of the men that were chosen to distribute bread to the Greek speaking Jewish community.
Some historical documents say that Nicolas left the church and became a Gnostic, and began spreading false teaching.
And because his name is Nicolas, they were called the Nicolaitans. They were followers of Nicolas, and the trail leads back, at least to the historians and the archaeologists, to this Nicolas of Antioch. Just a side note!
I do thank you for your thoughts on both Koine and modern Greek. Some of the Greek you have shared has helped me out.
Were you testing the waters, I feel you have more to add than you ask. I will check out the book. The truth is simple, but we as mankind kick up the dust of wisdom and make it hard to see.
Don't stay away, God bless,
RLW
Through Jesus Christ then why gamble because God does not work by chance.
Thank you for the information. Since Scripture didn't really explain the teachings of the Nicolatians, we may not know definitively what they taught and practiced that was so egregious to the Lord.
Jesus and the apostles walked or at times took a boat. No need for Health Clubs when you walk every day and for the distances they did.
Thanks for everyone's contribution. This is a wonderful venue.
I, too, think that it is ok to participate in gambling. However, like other things (alcohol intake) it can take over someone's willpower and bring ruin to one's life.
But some can gamble as a kind of entertainment and not spend more than they intend and their winnings and losings balance out. My Mom was one who was able to play bingo or other types of gambling with self-control. She kept track of her winnings and losings and pretty much stayed even. So, as entertainment, it was money spent for that. She did not go to movies, out to dinner, or most other types of entertainment.
But other people may be more prone to risk taking in many areas of their life, gambling being one of them. It is not the act of gambling that is wrong, it is the need for risk taking that leads to sin.
Yes, Paul is the apostle whose evangelism to the Gentiles are recorded in his epistles and Acts. He also evangelized Jews that were dispersed in the areas he evangelized. At a specific time, he stopped preaching in the synagogues, but when he was preaching to crowds, there most likely were Jews among those who listened.
Also, some of the 12 apostles also evangelized to peoples in areas that had many Gentiles. So Paul was not the only one who evangelized the Gentiles. We just don't have recorded in Scripture what the other apostles did and where they preached.
One evangelist gives some details that the other doesn't. So it seems in the beginning they both mocked Jesus. But as time passed by, one of them was moved by Jesus' behavior on the cross and changed his mind. God's provision allowed for four gospels to be written, so that one complements the others and we have the full story..GBU
16 To reveal His Son in me, in order that I might preach Him among the Gentiles ; immediately I conferred not with any human being:
Paul is stating how God chose(set apart)him before he was born, and called him unto grace to reveal Jesus in Him/Paul to preach salvation among the Gentiles.
God chose Paul before he was born to teach the Son of GOD/GOD to the gentiles, that person is wrong,,,
All the Apostles/prophets were chosen before the their mothers womb,,,, they are the set aside one's
I appreciate your response as well, but if you read both passages they differ in statements.
1 passage says both mocked or ridiculed him the other states only 1 mocked him.
With that being said read again for your self.
Now pertaining to my Salvation, It is the Blood of JESUS that has washed away all my sin.I acknowledge
that JESUS CHRIST is LORD, (GOD IN THE FLESH) and I have been Baptized(Full immersion).
I personally think gambling is fine and not a sin as long as it does not come between you and God and is not a stronghold, is not an addiction or a love, and is not through "vanity." Proverbs 13:11. Strong's says vanity is something transitory or unsatisfactory. Others translate this into dishonesty or fraud. I'm currently not thinking this applies to wagering money, but perhaps tax collecting, crooked attorneys, ponzi schemes, surprise fees, billing department dishonesty, or perhaps other activities that are illegal and deceive and harm people.
My personal view on this is that all of life involves risk and not just with money, but with our time, relationships, activities, work, etc. Naturally we try to mitigate risk and seize opportunities. Investing is Biblical, but involves risk, such as the stock market. Buying insurance is betting against yourself, so that's gambling too. So does trying a new restaurant or accepting a new job or moving. So, in my current understanding I don't believe gambling is a sin, but I am open to anyone's Bible verses to support another view and specifically what someone thinks wealth through vanity means. God bless.
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About Nicolaitans one can find s lot of information on the internet. Many christian historians write about them but it seems they don't always agree with one another. It seems it was a mixture of a mystic philosophy and christianity probably the same as gnosticism. It probably had to do with allowing fornication in the church or something like that. It must have been something really terrible so Jesus said He hates their works. Like today's many so called christian cults that use Jesus name to propagate evil practices. That shows that if we do not guard our faith many weird things may come in.
God's moral government set forth.
It will probably have a different meaning to whoever is reading it. It is a book about wisdom and how to live wisely, the family, life, death, prayer, pride, knowledge, trust, discipline, maybe even stumping your toe, I could go on. If you have not read it, you need to. Many times, if we are struggling with something in our life the Holy Spirit can highlight words that will help, it is like the words stand up out of the page. You can see yourself in it, you can see God in it, you can see Jesus in it, and you can see many answers, directions, conformations, and most things we deal with in our life.
Just a short view may others add to it.
God bless,
RLW
From a loving God that wants us to know His Will or ways and what to do or
Avoid.
I don't know how far you were allowed to walk on the sabbath day. People had to feed and water their animals every day, including the sabbath, they prepared their meals, which meant possibly carrying water from the well for them and the livestock.
The Mt. of Olives is about a half mile from Jerusalem, so I would suppose you could travel about a half of a mile on the sabbath.
A sabbath days journey.
Take this comment with a grain of salt, my opinion, there are others with more knowledge of Old Israel.
God Bless You!