Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 488

  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello, sin has the possibility of existing where freewill exists and I haven't seen anywhere in the Bible say that beings in heaven are stripped of their freewill. It would seem that beings indeed do have freewill given that the angel(s) rebelled.

    I'm not familiar with any verse saying there's no confusion, if you can please share that verse you have in mind that would be helpful. God bless.
  • Luke - In Reply - 1 year ago
    They haven't been kicked out yet! They disobeyed God and left their first estate/HIM and went to and fro unto the earth.

    They got locked up, put into chains in darkness meaning prison in Heaven, and have been there ever since, awaiting to be set free THEN they make war with the Angels of GOD and win not, and THEN they are cast to the earth, suppose one could say that this is where they get kicked out.
  • Henry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Charlene Lucifer was kicked out of heaven along with those that followed

    Him and his sin was pride to be like the most High God. Interestingly he at

    One time was the bright morning star now Jesus Christ is.
  • Luke - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes Sir! They die a spiritual death when they fall for and worship the anti-christ pretending to be Jesus, and He doesn't do a fly by either lol.

    Many realize it during that hour and turn back, but many will not.
  • Jewel David on Jeremiah 9 - 1 year ago
    Jeremiah 9 is my most favorite scripture and I

    Love it
  • Henry - In Reply on 2 Timothy 2 - 1 year ago
    Ronnette. It is unique that the verse is in the leadership Epistles to Timothy

    Because by the time of the writing most that Paul taught walked away from

    Him and he was given the knowledge of the mystery of the function of the Body

    Of Christ the Church of of in the age of Grace.Kept secret before the world began

    Romans 16:25+26.
  • Richard H Priday on 2 Peter 2 - 1 year ago
    Peter completes the first chapter of his second Epistle with a warning much like Paul does knowing that he is about to die. He elaborates on heresy among the brethren in chapter 2; then further apostasy in the last days in the third and final chapter. This is very clearly paralleled in the Book of Jude; giving pause to consider whether both authors communicated this theme or Jude got his ideas from Peter who perhaps had gotten it from Paul. This is all the inspired Word of God; of course. The concern for these things was clearly indicated when Paul stated that he prayed with tears "day and night for three years" concerning the state of the church. ( Acts 20:31; also see 20:37 when people wept about the prophecy of his imprisonment and likely martyrdom eventually in Jerusalem). Jude was going to discuss general doctrine; but the Lord redirected him with similar exhortations as he states in the beginning of the book.

    There clearly is no mincing of words here. Verse 20 and 21 are particularly sobering warning that it is better not to know the truth than to know it and become reprobate (i.e. harsher judgment). The only one in this generation that may have been similar that I am aware of was David Wilkerson. Aside from interpretations of certain end time verses and prophetic statements that he made; which is the subject of another post; he certainly spoke against heretical practices.

    Think about it. Today we remember men who were fabulous expositors of scripture; orators or who tenaciously held to the traditions of church doctrines. All of these things of course are commendable. But would they be held in such high esteem if they warned about apostasy; in their own midst no less. Surely the pride of those who had stakes in the institution; denomination; Christian school (not to mention FAMILY MEMBERS) would be offended. To use past successes as our standard in how Christ sees a church today is unwise in light of verses such as Rev. 2:5!!!
  • Henry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Paul. Another point to bring to your thinking God's Word in the Church Epistles

    Tells us to put on the mind of Christ by working God's Word and Romans12:2

    Renewing our minds or changing thought to line up with scripture in what we do and

    How we do it. No other book gives spiritual instruction strictly pertaining to

    Conduct in the church of God the Body of Christ. Colossians 1:24.
  • Charlene - 1 year ago
    I wanted to know if there no sin r confusion in Heaven , why was the satan & his angels kick out of heaven
  • Ronnette on 2 Timothy 2 - 1 year ago
    2 Timothy 2:15 is a powerful verse. If we do not learn how to rightly divide the word of truth, we will be lost understanding the chain of events from the time God brought the Hebrews from the Land of Egypt until The Christ Lord Jesus died on the cross up to our time today which is approximately 2,000 years. Honestly, we do not have time. As you all noticed the rapid days go by quickly as God says 2 Peter 3:8 and you see Psalms 2:1-12

    I do not mind repeating to all that the Bible is a complete book Revelation 19:13 for us today to prepare ourselves and others. I pray all to be saved. We cannot have the people caught unaware of Matthew 24:37. To rightly divide is to know for us today what we need to do. So I will say that the 11 apostles messages are important for the physical Jews Matthew 10:5-7 at the end time; and there are verses in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that pertains to a spiritual Christians of today.

    God had chosen Paul to be His vessel so we can read and believe not in vain. Study the Book of Romans to Philemon because he was the Last and believe it or not the 12th Apostle Galatians 1:1, Acts 9:15, Acts 13:47, Acts 22:21, Roman's 11:13, Ephesians 3:8, 1 Timothy 2:7, Galatians 1:16. After Jesus died He says Hebrews 9:14-17. Then you are Ephesians 1:12-14, 2 Timothy 2:19 and 2 Corinthians 1:22. Therefore, 1 Corinthians 9:2 just like Romans 15:28. Ephesians 4:30 and sing Psalms 49:8, 111:9, 130:7. In conclusion my fellow-believers, Paul is sealed 1 Corinthians 9:2 by God to be our apostle today. Weneedtoputtheworkof Paul not in vain Galatians 6:11. Paul tells us Romans 2:16, Romans 16:25, 2 Timothy 2:8. And the gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Then we are sealed Ephesians 1:13. Perhaps you are not understanding me because Revelation 18:4, Proverbs 20:1, Roman's 7:11, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Galatians 6:7, 1 Timothy 2:14, 2 Timothy 3:13, Titus 3:3, and lastly Revelation 18:23. Psalm 37:1-40 then we meditate Psalms 27:1-3. Shalom/Agape.
  • Henry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Paul. You made a statement I can't buy that is that the bible Gods Word

    Contradicts itself impossible. Either it's not understood according to ones

    Own thinking or taken out of context or not worked in original language or

    Not understood according to eastern thought but make no mistake it is the

    ONLY PERFECT BOOK!
  • Billy - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Seems to me we are in the times of sorrows, fake christians and gospel , wars and rumors of wars . Jesus spells it all out in Matthew 24 .

    I find it interesting that the gospel is preached in revelation as a witness, then comes the end . I can't remember where I read that . But it tells me the gospel before that time was perverted by false Christianity. Sticking close to the word of God is best in theses uncertain times . As Jesus said take head lest any man deceive you .
  • D W L on Galatians 6 - 1 year ago
    Jim Tidwell on Galatians 6

    John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. -- Read John 3:1-21

    Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

    2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a (new) creature: old things are passed away; behold, (all) things are become new.

    Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. (3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: (4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

    Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

    Matthew 25: They were all virgins but 5 were lost --read the chapter

    John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    ( John 3:7 Jesus said ye must be born again)

    We all can find a verse that tells us what we want to hear, there will be many lost after he says depart from me. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
  • Henry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Marianne. David like us when walking and listening to God he conquered

    When he didn't i.e. walking by his senses he paid and yet in all that he did

    Wrong God calls David a man after His own Heart. We need that kind of heart.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Evelyn...Good question about the 2 men and the 2 women....But they are actually just 1 person that have been bornagain of an incorruptible seed,...even by the word of God...But satan has sowed a Tare in them making them 2 ppl....they are involved in a war with satan the Tare...Remember Jesus said that the kingdom of God suffers violence....The Wheat and the Tares are in a WAR IN EACH PERSON that is bornagain of an incorruptible seed...Simply b/c Satan is gonna sow a tare in us with the wheat....Its KiNGDOM AGAINST kINGDOM....The Tare is satan's seed but the Wheat is Jesus seed....Thats y Paul was saying when i wd do good evil is present with me...O wretched MAN THAT I AM...Paul had become 2 ppl...But with my mind i serve the law of God but with my flesh the law of sin....2 PPL was in Paul spiritually speaking

    .....But Jesus said to let them GROW TOGETHER ( 2 PPL ) till the HARVEST..Then i will say to the reapers gather up the Tares and burn them but gather the Wheat to my barn....His kingdom

    ..... Rev 22:11....He that is unjust let him be unjust still...He that is filthy let him be filthy still...Thats the Tare within us with the WHEAT

    ......He that is Righteous let him be righteous still....He that is Holy let him be Holy still....Thats the Wheat with in us....And behold i come quickly and my reward is with me....The reapers are gonna gather the Tares and burn them....But the Wheat goes to his barn the Kingdom.

    .....So the 2 men in 1 bed is just 1 man that has been bornagain of an incorruptible seed...But the Tares makes him another man.

    ......And the 2 women are just 1 woman that has been bornagain that are grinding at the mill ..But the Tares and the wheat make her 2 women.

    ......There is no way we can have the Wheat ( That Good seed ) ..Without having to go thru a warfare with satan the Tares that bad seed....And they have to grow together till the time of the harvest....Thats y Jesus was saying he that endures to the end shall be saved...The Harvest.
  • Ronnette - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 5:18 - 1 year ago
    Thank you Mishael.

    I know I was moved by the Holy Spirit when I wrote it. I could not take the credit, but Glory to God.

    Since I was saved, I tried the best to understand the Bible and claimed the treasures of wisdom and knowledge as Colossians 2:3 says.

    I came back for at least ten. I pray there are more. This is a parallel of what the Lord says..Genesis18:23-33.

    Those who have ears, let them hear what the Lord says.

    Agape.
  • Luke - In Reply on Proverbs 1 - 1 year ago
    You're like a lily among thorns is what God says when He sees His Election, You're like a lily among thornes, so is MY FRIEND among the (Daughters/ DAMSELS/ the people) who have been misled thru false teachings is what God is saying :

    It's beautiful ! Just beautiful ! Precious !
  • Blackfoot - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen to you Billy !
  • Blackfoot - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Paul , I have to be honest with you . I have had family who were involved with the mormons so I know a bit about them and their beliefs . I'm probably not the best person to enter a dialogue with you so if you would beg my pardon I shall respectfully bow out of this conversation .
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Well explained bro S. Spencer, as also from bro Adam's comments to Paul. I think of Philippians 2:12: "...work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." The apostle was writing, 'your salvation came by faith, now work out that faith (your salvation) in your lives, and do so with great seriousness & watchfulness'.

    Salvation can never be by works alone, nor by faith plus works, or else it would no longer be of faith. Faith is trusting in God to give us His gift of salvation. Works is trusting in Ourselves to give us salvation - if this was so, even possible, Christ need not have died, & our salvation would be based on our efforts which would have guaranteed our rejection by God. But God-given faith must produce God-given works - we must give all diligence to it.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Paul,

    Thanks for listing the verses of your perceived contradictions. You're making a giant claim by claiming "The Bible contradicts itself quite often." Have you actually done a deep study into each of your claims to determine if other explanations exist that you haven't yet considered or is this just a snap judgment? Just because you assume they're contradictions doesn't mean they are and doesn't seem to justify trying to discredit the Bible on a Bible site. If you would like we can address each of these one at a time. In reality you could also just take a few seconds to Google search it and find logical explanations for each of these points from sites like got questions, carm, etc but still, I'm happy to have a dialog.

    For now I'll just point out that your first difficulty with geneologies, the geneology of Matthew may be through Joseph and geneology of Luke may be through Mary. Can you see how that would result in a different geneology? Another view is that Matthew is a biological geneology and Luke recorded a legal geneology through levirate marriage. Deuteronomy 25:5. Another possibility is that Joseph had two fathers. Can you see how now in just a short paragraph that either of these could easily explain what you assumed was a contradiction. Because the Bible was meticulously recorded, inspired by God, and is the truth, isn't it more likely that in each of these there is a logical explanation you haven't yet thought of, rather your assumptions being true?
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Paul.

    In James 2:14-16. we have the context and resolve

    "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

    ( If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

    And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?")

    You see a similar verse here in

    1 John 3:17. "But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, HOW DWELLETH THE LOVE OF GOD IN HIM?"

    The love of God IN YOU CAUSES YOU TO RESPOND WITH WORKS, It's a fruit of the spirit. you're "persuaded" From within.

    You're not acting out faith or manifestating faith.

    You're persuaded!!

    If you don't respond "putting in the work" You are not persuaded!

    Philippians 2:13. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

    These scriptures don't contradict. Faith is dead without works and works is dead without Faith. God is not in you until he saves you and if you are not saved no matter what you do you can't please him. It is Christ faith in you that causes you to work!! This is why in James 2:18 he says "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."

    God doesn't accept works from a unclean person "the unsaved" in a attempt to make himself righteous.

    Men righteousness is as filthy rags. If you are saved by faith you will work, If you won't work, your faith is vain.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply on Proverbs 1 - 1 year ago
    Hello Natasha. The verse is from Song of Solomon 2:2, "As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters." This is, I believe, Solomon's bride speaking, as the following verses suggest (others, refer it to it as Solomon's words).

    So, the Shulamite bride, in this verse, sees herself as a lily peering through the surrounding thorny bushes, and she compares that to the intense love she has for Solomon, far exceeding the love from the maidens. Now why this verse was inscribed onto a headstone, I cannot be sure. The only thought that comes to mind, is the wife's/husband's (or, family's) strong sentiments of endless love for their dear departed. The other option would be, that the character of the departed one was truly extraordinary & exemplary, far above others they have known. But I would prefer the first option.

    And as a side-note: many of the passages in the Songs, give us a picture of Christ Jesus & His Love for His Church.
  • May - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear GiGi,

    Amen!

    Thank you for praying for me. I needed this so much. That is exactly the prayer that is best for me. I will be praying for you tonight too.
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Kings 22 - 1 year ago
    Hi Larry. You can find the references to the kings of Israel (as opposed to the kings of Judah) in the following Bible references: 1 Kings chapter 12 to 1 Kings chapter 22 and 2 Kings chapter 8 to 2 Kings chapter 15.

    And you'd be looking for the following names of Israel's kings (from the above references): Jeroboam 1, Nadab, Baasha, Elah, Zimri, Tibni, Omri, Ahab, Ahaziah, Joram, Jehu, Jehoahaz, Jehoash, Jeroboam 2, Zechariah, Shallum, Menahem, Pekahiah, Pekah, Hoshea. After this last king, Israel goes into Assyrian captivity.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Giannis,

    I am out of town for the weekend, so I will read through this when I get home. And please know that you cannot offend me.
  • Luke - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Am going to have to make this short, much can be said on this subject, been a long day.

    We are saved by Grace alone, through faith, but what is faith without works? It's dead, it is dead faith.

    Our works is the only thing we take with us, they make up our Fine Linens, Our robes, It's one of the finest rewards ,, least ye walk naked in shame, throughout the millennium.

    Revelation 19:8

    Revelation 7:13

    Revelation 7:14

    Sorry I would like to do this more Justice, but we earn our fine linens, and robes through our works.

    "Christ will come like a thief in the night" and take it, if we are not ready and watching 1 Thessalonians 5:2 ---- 2 Peter 3:10...

    Read Matthew 24 starting at about v42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

    If you're not ready, and are caught backsliding, all your works can be stolen from you, like a thief in the night. Be ready always, be watching always.
  • Paul - In Reply - 1 year ago
    But the Bible speaks of things to be revealed beyond what's written,

    ...for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. ( Revelation 19:7)

    Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. ( John 16:13)

    But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. ( 1 Corinthians 2:10)

    Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, ( 1 Cor. 14:39)

    And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: ( Acts 2:18)

    And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: ( Acts 2:17)

    Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. ( Amos 3:7)
  • Billy - 1 year ago
    Jesus said many will come in his name in Matthew 24 that's not just a few , so who are all these fake Christians?
  • Billy - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Those taken are destroyed, those left behind inherit the land I believe. The meek shall inherit the earth Jesus said . The Godly are left behind . The ungodly are gathered up and burned .


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