1. Brethern, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6. But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7. Or, who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
7. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12. For there is no difference between Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15. And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
There is a 3 rd sign of the Trinity in the Scripture....Besides Abraham Issac and Jacob and Jesse David and Solomon....In the ark of the Covenant in the most Holy place was the 2 Churubim of GLORY AND Almighty God stood between the 2 Churubim of Glory....When Moses built the Ark of the Covenant he did not use any Levitical Priesthood plans....God told Moses to build that ark according to what he saw when he was on the mount with God....See said he that you make all things according to what was shown you on the mount....Hebrews..8:5....Moses had seen these 2 Churubim of Glory with God when Moses was on the Mount....
.....God wd not have shown Moses these 2 Churubim of Glory if they were not RELATED to God as Absolute Sons of God....Only an ABSOLUTE SON cd share Gods GLORY....Which were Christ and the H.G....( EMANUEL)...God with us in the person of the H.G. and Jesus Christ the very Lamb of God....Of the things we have spoken this is the sum we have such a hy priest ( Jesus ) who is set on the right hand of Majesty in the Heavens ....Jesus was 1 of the Churubims of Glory on the right hand of God in the Ark of the Covenant....And on the mount with God....Moses saw all this when he was with God on the Mount .
......Thus we see 3 in the ARK of the Covenant....The Father between the 2 Churubim of GLORY....In the most Holy Place....And they were all 3 related with the FATHER....God cannot share his Glory with any other being except his absolute Sons....That are also God....ok lemme go.....But this is the 1 st time the trinity is shown in the bible....As the Father between the 2 Churubim of Glory.....
44. And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, While I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms,concerning me.
45. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46. And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day.
47. And that repentance and remissions of sin should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48. And ye are witnesses of these things.
49. And behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) are all of one essence-Divinity. This essence is the very Being and nature of God. This Oneness in nature is "what" God is and only God possesses this essence. As One being in essence, God exists in three distinct Persons who have will, intellect, emotions, a mind, an Who interact with one another within this one essence. This is the "Who" of God.
Although this Oneness is impossible for us to completely understand, as God is infinitely Divine and the Persons of the Godhead are inseparably unified within the Godhead. It is not that each Person of the Godhead has the same mind, will, or love for each that makes them One. It is that there is only One Divine essence, which is eternal, infinite, totally unique and unlike anything else. There is none other like Him, nor will there ever be anyone else like Him because everyone else is a created being and cannot acquire this divine essence. This essence (or nature) cannot be added to nor subtracted from. It cannot be communicated (given) to any other being. God alone possesses this nature.
Also, as Jesus said, The Father Himself are one and that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. ( John 14:9-11) ( John 14:19-20) Jesus came forth from the Father t become Man ( John 16:28) even though the Father and Himself remained One concerning the Divine nature. The Holy Spirit come forth from the Father and the Son to abide within us, but He also remained One with the Father and the Son concerning the Divine Nature.
As human creatures we can admit that the Godhead is beyond human understanding because His essential Being is completely "other" than anything else. This is called His "transcendency" because His Being is beyond our ability to comprehend or even describe as human words cannot fully describe His Being, His Oneness, and being three distinct Persons in One Being. We know what He has revealed to humanity about Himself, but cannot totally understand Him.
Ronnette My spirit in me wants to share Happy thoughts to ALL on Hebrews 11 - 1 year ago
I truly now confessed that I am a stranger and pilgrim on the earth. Are you with me? I hope to get at least ten (10) responses. Glory to God and thank you. If more the better, you made Heaven happy. My sincere prayers are for you. Peace to all that understand and does all God's will. Happy Sunday. 09/18/2022. Comfort one another for we have a lot to be excited about Heaven. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-24
Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
1. Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, brining the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2. And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3. And they entered in, and found not they body of the Lord Jesus.
4. And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed there about, behold two men stood by them in shining garments:
5. And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6. He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you which he was yet in Galilee,
7. Saying, The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8. And they remembered his words,
9. And returned from the sepulchre, and told all those things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10. It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11. And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
12. Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself of that which was come to pass.
1. At that time Jesus went on the Sabbath day through the corn, and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
2. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to coupon the Sabbath day.
3. But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4. How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priest?
5. Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the Sabbath day the priest in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?
6. But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
7. But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Where is the story found where the wife believed on Jesus but the husband did not so she left an went to a relative. Jesus advised her to return home to not mention her faith
So true, the wonderful works of God. What Jesus said in John 15:12-14, many things were going on in 1971, there was a song that came out, I'm sure Jesus was not the focus, but it hits a button, you may know it, if not it is You've got a friend by Carol King.
Whatever the cause of such insanity; likely direct DNA manipulation from the mark of the beast much like the corruption when the "sons of god" had relations with women in Genesis and had offspring ( Genesis 6:2) and/or the mind control from the image of the beast somehow directed by some virtual reality it is clear that once man starts to attempt to band together to fight God it is a hopeless situation. Once again; however Satan's masterpiece of authority over the earth runs the course determined by God and no doubt there is no love lost when Satan is cast into the bottomless pit the same time the Beast and False Prophet are tossed into the fire. Satan's character won't change in the whole 1000 years imprisoned as he will attempt one more worldwide rebellion after the Millennium.
His power; of course is in willing subjects. There are many today who may acknowledge that they are sinners; but not that Satan is their master. There no doubt are some dedicated Satanists who are determined that they will soon fight Christ and God. They probably will have some deluded concept that they succeeded in killing Christ the first time and deny His indestructible Resurrection and somehow think they can now succeed in destroying an Omnipresent; Omnipotent and Omniscient God.
God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked ( Ezek. 33:11). In this case; however the madness of their folly is laughed at. They are beyond any fear at this point; totally controlled by Satan. He who destroyed cities and made the world a wilderness ( Isaiah 14:17) is now cast out of his grave (Antichrist here; who is not given honor of a burial and verse 21 talks about the slaughter of his children (likely those at Armageddon). Satan is burned up before the earth later as well ( Ezekiel 28:18). Many other scriptures talk of Armageddon as well.
Verses 10 to 11 may be talking about rulers that survive physically into the Millennium and or the saints of God who rule
Okay! When a person owns a thing they do what they want with it, even if it's to sew together coverings upon all the joints of God's hand to block to word of truth. !JIREH!
Do you know what you reminded me of with your post?
There is a sister in faith over here who during a very hard time in her life complained to Jesus. She told Him that He had no idea of what she was going through. She said He had no idea what loneliness is, what feels to be mocked at, to be abandoned, to be hurt and a lot more that I don't remember. As soon as she finished her complaints she heard His voice. "Don't I know what is to be mocked at?" At the same time a picture of Jesus being mocked at between the Pharisees went through her mind. "Don't I know what is to be abandoned?". A picture of Jesus alone without any support and help being hit and hurt by the Pharisees' servants went through her mind. "Don't I know what loneliness feels like?" A picture of Jesus alone in the dark room of His prison during that night emmerged in her mind. "Don't I know what is to be exhausted and hurt?" A picture of Jesus on the cross came into her mind. After all that the sister crying asked Jesus sorry for what she said to him.
I don't remember all the details exactly, but it is a real story. There is somebody up there who knows exactly how we feel.
Yes you are right, church is the people not the building. So the gifts are given to work during a congregation. That is why God gave them to His people. They are not for one's personal pleasure but for the saints gathered to worship God. They are to be communicated to all. Of course the gifts are not only active during a congregation. But will one be given a gift If he has never integrated himself in a congregation? What for? To whom shall he communicate the work of his gift? Paul always adresses his letters to churches, he never considers christians as lone persons.
The problem today, unlike the ancient times, is that there is not a unique church with a unique belief. Of course one can say that the universal church is all true christians dispersed in all sort of churches, but still I think there must be gifts active in the function of any real church/congregation. If you look at denominations like the R/Catholics and Orthodoxes you will notice that they function in a way completely different from that described in the Gospel. Priests and liturgies and all those. So where are the gifts in those churches? People in those churches hardly know one another, if they actually know anybody else apart from the ones who sit next to them. So whom shall the gifts serve? Also apart from the priest nobody else takes any part in the liturgy. People are only observers. That is why they are not given any gifts. They are dead churches like the church in Sardis. Only a small portion of them who try to do what they read in Gospel are saved but still they have never heard of spiritual gifts and their function in a congregation.
Jesse why wouldn't a christian want to be in a congregation? Certainly there must be one who is right in their eyes, unless there is a practical reason for not being able to do that. It is not good one to stay alone. We all need a christian community. To be with people similar to us. We have nothing in common with wordly people.
All of the Spirits are individual and unique and they all have names....They have to be born just like ppl are born via a seed a spiritual seed the living words of God....God himself is a spirit and man is made after the order and image of God....As God is a consuming fire Hebrews 1:7 ....A H.G. fire as Jesus said he came to bring fire on the earth but its not a fire like we know it....Its a spritual fire as God is Spirit but he is also a consuming fire...And of the Angels he saith he makes his angels ministers and his angels a flame of fire Hebrews 1 :7 kjv. Angels have no F.M...gender..But Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit so spirits can be born in us via his seed the living word is the seed of God....Thats y Jesus was saying to whom the word came ( his seed the LIVING word ) it made them Gods...Both Jesus and the H.G. CAN REGENERATE THEM SELVES IN HUMANITY....Thus there is an Israel of God on the Horizon... Gal. 6:16 kjv....Which is the H.G. the children of Promise....A Kingdom....Unless you receive the Kingdom of GOD AS A LIL CHILD... A spiritual Child is gonna be born in us....You will in no wise enter there in...She brought forth a manchild that is gona rule all nations...Which is the H.G. that Child of Promise... Baby CHRIST....A new INNERMAN WHICH IS SPIRIT...A new heart and newspriit...Which is that New COVENANT I WILL KNOW THEM ALL AN INTIMACY
......27 times in the O.T. The Prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains.....Thats y he has to KNOW us, there has to be an intimacy that results in this New Birth....Of Christ in us the hope of Glory....When Jesus breathe on them he was KNOWING them as his words are his seeds....And Isaiah says that this KNOWLEDGE ( THIS INTIMACY ) is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.....Thats y Jeremiah saw all the world in Travail and birth pains....Why do i see all men with their hands on their loins as woman in travail....Its a time of Jacobs troubles that heavenly Jacob the H.G...
Romans 10:1-16
1. Brethern, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6. But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7. Or, who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
7. But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12. For there is no difference between Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15. And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16. But they have not all obeyed the gospel.
What are your thoughts of the Ark of the Covenant? has it reelly been found in Ethiopa by an american man?
John 4:24 - God is a spirit
John 1 - Jesus was the Word and the Word is God. He was there in the beginning and made everything (verse 3)
1 John 5:7
What I take out of this is God the Father is a spirit, God the Son is a spirit, the Holy Ghost is a spirit.
God the Son took on the flesh and was a man temporary. A vocal minority falsely assumes Jesus was a man first, but John 1:3 debunks that.
I believe human beings are also spirits. We are not our bodies, but just temporarily inhabit them. 1 Corinthians 15:44
.....God wd not have shown Moses these 2 Churubim of Glory if they were not RELATED to God as Absolute Sons of God....Only an ABSOLUTE SON cd share Gods GLORY....Which were Christ and the H.G....( EMANUEL)...God with us in the person of the H.G. and Jesus Christ the very Lamb of God....Of the things we have spoken this is the sum we have such a hy priest ( Jesus ) who is set on the right hand of Majesty in the Heavens ....Jesus was 1 of the Churubims of Glory on the right hand of God in the Ark of the Covenant....And on the mount with God....Moses saw all this when he was with God on the Mount .
......Thus we see 3 in the ARK of the Covenant....The Father between the 2 Churubim of GLORY....In the most Holy Place....And they were all 3 related with the FATHER....God cannot share his Glory with any other being except his absolute Sons....That are also God....ok lemme go.....But this is the 1 st time the trinity is shown in the bible....As the Father between the 2 Churubim of Glory.....
Luke 24:50-53
50. And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.
51. And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
52. And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
53. And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.
Luke 24:44-49
44. And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, While I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms,concerning me.
45. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46. And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day.
47. And that repentance and remissions of sin should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48. And ye are witnesses of these things.
49. And behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) are all of one essence-Divinity. This essence is the very Being and nature of God. This Oneness in nature is "what" God is and only God possesses this essence. As One being in essence, God exists in three distinct Persons who have will, intellect, emotions, a mind, an Who interact with one another within this one essence. This is the "Who" of God.
Although this Oneness is impossible for us to completely understand, as God is infinitely Divine and the Persons of the Godhead are inseparably unified within the Godhead. It is not that each Person of the Godhead has the same mind, will, or love for each that makes them One. It is that there is only One Divine essence, which is eternal, infinite, totally unique and unlike anything else. There is none other like Him, nor will there ever be anyone else like Him because everyone else is a created being and cannot acquire this divine essence. This essence (or nature) cannot be added to nor subtracted from. It cannot be communicated (given) to any other being. God alone possesses this nature.
Also, as Jesus said, The Father Himself are one and that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. ( John 14:9-11) ( John 14:19-20) Jesus came forth from the Father t become Man ( John 16:28) even though the Father and Himself remained One concerning the Divine nature. The Holy Spirit come forth from the Father and the Son to abide within us, but He also remained One with the Father and the Son concerning the Divine Nature.
As human creatures we can admit that the Godhead is beyond human understanding because His essential Being is completely "other" than anything else. This is called His "transcendency" because His Being is beyond our ability to comprehend or even describe as human words cannot fully describe His Being, His Oneness, and being three distinct Persons in One Being. We know what He has revealed to humanity about Himself, but cannot totally understand Him.
Luke 24:36-43
36. And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37. But they were terrified and affrightened and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39. Behold my hands and my feet, that is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and feet.
41. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye any meat?
42. And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of a honeycomb.
42. And he took it, and did eat before them.
Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
God bless.
Luke 24:25-35
25. Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26. Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27. And beginning of Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
28. And they drew nigh unto village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.
29. But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.
30. And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
32. And they said one to another. Did not our heart burn within us,while he talked with us by the way, while he opened to us the scriptures?
33. And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34. Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35. And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
Luke 24:1-12
1. Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, brining the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2. And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3. And they entered in, and found not they body of the Lord Jesus.
4. And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed there about, behold two men stood by them in shining garments:
5. And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6. He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you which he was yet in Galilee,
7. Saying, The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8. And they remembered his words,
9. And returned from the sepulchre, and told all those things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10. It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11. And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.
12. Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself of that which was come to pass.
Matthew 12:1-8
1. At that time Jesus went on the Sabbath day through the corn, and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
2. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to coupon the Sabbath day.
3. But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4. How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priest?
5. Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the Sabbath day the priest in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?
6. But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
7. But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
8. For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath day.
So true, the wonderful works of God. What Jesus said in John 15:12-14, many things were going on in 1971, there was a song that came out, I'm sure Jesus was not the focus, but it hits a button, you may know it, if not it is You've got a friend by Carol King.
Thanks, and God bless,
RLW
Whatever the cause of such insanity; likely direct DNA manipulation from the mark of the beast much like the corruption when the "sons of god" had relations with women in Genesis and had offspring ( Genesis 6:2) and/or the mind control from the image of the beast somehow directed by some virtual reality it is clear that once man starts to attempt to band together to fight God it is a hopeless situation. Once again; however Satan's masterpiece of authority over the earth runs the course determined by God and no doubt there is no love lost when Satan is cast into the bottomless pit the same time the Beast and False Prophet are tossed into the fire. Satan's character won't change in the whole 1000 years imprisoned as he will attempt one more worldwide rebellion after the Millennium.
His power; of course is in willing subjects. There are many today who may acknowledge that they are sinners; but not that Satan is their master. There no doubt are some dedicated Satanists who are determined that they will soon fight Christ and God. They probably will have some deluded concept that they succeeded in killing Christ the first time and deny His indestructible Resurrection and somehow think they can now succeed in destroying an Omnipresent; Omnipotent and Omniscient God.
God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked ( Ezek. 33:11). In this case; however the madness of their folly is laughed at. They are beyond any fear at this point; totally controlled by Satan. He who destroyed cities and made the world a wilderness ( Isaiah 14:17) is now cast out of his grave (Antichrist here; who is not given honor of a burial and verse 21 talks about the slaughter of his children (likely those at Armageddon). Satan is burned up before the earth later as well ( Ezekiel 28:18). Many other scriptures talk of Armageddon as well.
Verses 10 to 11 may be talking about rulers that survive physically into the Millennium and or the saints of God who rule
Do you know what you reminded me of with your post?
There is a sister in faith over here who during a very hard time in her life complained to Jesus. She told Him that He had no idea of what she was going through. She said He had no idea what loneliness is, what feels to be mocked at, to be abandoned, to be hurt and a lot more that I don't remember. As soon as she finished her complaints she heard His voice. "Don't I know what is to be mocked at?" At the same time a picture of Jesus being mocked at between the Pharisees went through her mind. "Don't I know what is to be abandoned?". A picture of Jesus alone without any support and help being hit and hurt by the Pharisees' servants went through her mind. "Don't I know what loneliness feels like?" A picture of Jesus alone in the dark room of His prison during that night emmerged in her mind. "Don't I know what is to be exhausted and hurt?" A picture of Jesus on the cross came into her mind. After all that the sister crying asked Jesus sorry for what she said to him.
I don't remember all the details exactly, but it is a real story. There is somebody up there who knows exactly how we feel.
God Blessings.
Yes you are right, church is the people not the building. So the gifts are given to work during a congregation. That is why God gave them to His people. They are not for one's personal pleasure but for the saints gathered to worship God. They are to be communicated to all. Of course the gifts are not only active during a congregation. But will one be given a gift If he has never integrated himself in a congregation? What for? To whom shall he communicate the work of his gift? Paul always adresses his letters to churches, he never considers christians as lone persons.
The problem today, unlike the ancient times, is that there is not a unique church with a unique belief. Of course one can say that the universal church is all true christians dispersed in all sort of churches, but still I think there must be gifts active in the function of any real church/congregation. If you look at denominations like the R/Catholics and Orthodoxes you will notice that they function in a way completely different from that described in the Gospel. Priests and liturgies and all those. So where are the gifts in those churches? People in those churches hardly know one another, if they actually know anybody else apart from the ones who sit next to them. So whom shall the gifts serve? Also apart from the priest nobody else takes any part in the liturgy. People are only observers. That is why they are not given any gifts. They are dead churches like the church in Sardis. Only a small portion of them who try to do what they read in Gospel are saved but still they have never heard of spiritual gifts and their function in a congregation.
Jesse why wouldn't a christian want to be in a congregation? Certainly there must be one who is right in their eyes, unless there is a practical reason for not being able to do that. It is not good one to stay alone. We all need a christian community. To be with people similar to us. We have nothing in common with wordly people.
God Blessings.
......27 times in the O.T. The Prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains.....Thats y he has to KNOW us, there has to be an intimacy that results in this New Birth....Of Christ in us the hope of Glory....When Jesus breathe on them he was KNOWING them as his words are his seeds....And Isaiah says that this KNOWLEDGE ( THIS INTIMACY ) is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.....Thats y Jeremiah saw all the world in Travail and birth pains....Why do i see all men with their hands on their loins as woman in travail....Its a time of Jacobs troubles that heavenly Jacob the H.G...