Bible Discussion PAGE 365

  • Nars A Stevens on Amos 3
    will God reveal the pre-trip rapture to anyone????
  • James Ramsey on Matthew 24:38
    I know Iv read that their is a calling away of the church before tribulations starts but having trouble finding it or did I just imagine it
  • Jesse - in Reply on Isaiah 43:11

    Isaiah 43:25 would apply to everyone as far as sin goes. At that time, it would have applied to the Jews. There were no Christians at that time. Jesus Christ came and paid the penalty for sin. When you received Christ, your sins were wiped away and forgiven. He paid a debt none of us could pay. Every sin you've ever committed in the past, and any sin you commit in the future, have been forgiven because Christ paid for that sin by shedding His blood at the cross.

    This does not mean that if you commit an act of sin after you are saved, that you don't have to confess that sin and ask for forgiveness. Even though Jesus paid for our sin, when we commit an act of sin, we break our fellowship with Him, and we must confess that sin and ask for His grace and mercy to forgive that act, and to restore that fellowship back with Him. However, your relationship as a child of God remains intact.

    2 Corinthians 5:21 says "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." There's no sin in Christ. He didn't deserve to die. But God made Him to be sin for us. He died our death, that we could be made the righteousness of God in Him. When we stand before God one day, we're going to know we don't deserve to be there. But we enter in because He will see Christ in us, and in Christ, there is no sin.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Psalms 26:2
    The NAS version Bible says irrevocable.
  • Mishael Revoke the Irrevocable - in Reply on Psalms 26:2
    Hey Bob :

    Some lady preacher must have said irrevocable to me. He doesn't remove the gift; He just removes the anointing.
  • Chris - in Reply on Malachi 3
    Bradley, Malachi, as you suggest, speaks of Israel's sins & coming judgement (vv 1-7). Then the question is asked in the latter part of v 7: "But ye said, Wherein shall we return?" That is, the people ask, "How (or, in what manner) shall we return?", "How have we robbed You?" In tithes & offerings.

    They were clearly robbing God by living careless, wicked lives, & in so doing this had a cumulative effect by not paying the right wages, lack of support to the widows & orphans & showing no care to the visitor. So the issue of robbery, God declares, is that you people have added to your wicked deeds, by even robbing me by not doing what has been commanded, viz in tithes & offerings. And verse 10 clarifies this even further to their giving, despite any hardship in doing so, as they would experience God's abundant blessings as a result.

    You state that this passage actually speaks about giving God praise, acknowledging His Glory & Mercy. And this would be the expected response if the people turned away from doing wickedly, but to read this chapter in its context, one can't help but observe that they were not able to give the sacrifice of praise to God, simply because of their many sins, of which their robbery to God was evident. What I would question of the present day interpretation of this passage is the necessity of the giving of tithes, which is an Old Testament mandate, but I could not see in the passage what you are seeing there. You could give your further explanation on your view, if you care to.
  • Mishael on Judas Iscariot - in Reply on Psalms 26:2
    Acts 1:10-20

    This took place in a Upper Room. A prophesy about Judas Iscariot is discussed. They are about to appoint a new 12th disciple.

    I believe the Holy Spirit showed Peter of the prophesies about Judas Iscariot's betrayal.

    This is one of those studies that you have to read at a snails pace, all of the center column references to get a clearer picture of prophesy with present circumstances.

    I'm going to list the passages and let the scholars in here piece it together with Holy Spirit, our Helper: helping us rightly divide the Truth.

    Acts 1: 10:20

    John 18:3

    Matthew 26:55-56

    Psalms 41:9, 55:23

    Isaiah 53:7 (Ch 53 all about Jesus)

    Daniel 9:26

    Lamentations 4:20

    Leviticus 25:15

    Deuteronomy 16:9
  • Justin - in Reply on Revelation 7:9
    Praying For You Brother!
  • Chris - in Reply on Ruth 1:22
    Carlos, I agree with you on the Self-sufficiency of God: that He needs nothing else to add to His Person or Character, that He is fully content within Himself & His Wisdom requires nothing from an outside source to enlighten Him or to reassess His Purposes for Heaven & the Universe. But He is a God of Love, nay, God is Love (1 John 4:8). In His Self-sufficiency, His very Being is essentially both Spirit & Love: without one or both, He is not God & thus non-existent.

    If then His Essence is Love, His Actions stem out of that Love, to extend that Love to all, to require that Love in His Creation, & to receive that Love in return; & these are all hallmarks of love (1 John 4:16). I see that if one of these requirements of Love is missing, then the "God is Love" Truth equates to 'God has Love within Him but requires no reciprocal response', however weak our love may be. But if a response from us is required, then it must prove that this God, Whose very Essence is Love, also sees our returned love as something He needs to receive & respond to. Is then His Response simply from a judicial position of checking off that a person has done his bit with love, or does God have a 'delight & sense of inward satisfaction & joy' when love is reciprocated?

    In a sense, God doesn't need Pleasure from expressed love or even a sense of euphoria in an outstanding act of love or devotion (& some even dare to suggest that He rests back on His Throne & exudes uncontrollable laughter & frivolity over some human act), but His very Nature demonstrates His Great & Perfect Love (in Holiness), & that in seriousness & satisfaction, He receives our Love in return. I believe that our Father delights immensely in the love given to Him, especially when deeply rooted in the reason for that 'agape' love: His Son's Love at the Cross.

    "God doesn't need to be glorified". What do we make of John 12:28; 13:31,32; 17:1? Do we sense that the Father receives our worship & His need to be glorified in us is paramount?
  • Mishael on Judas Iscariot - in Reply on Psalms 26:2
    Yep. Judas had a prophesy to fulfill. I found it in Psalms.

    The 11, in Acts, were Together trying to figure out why Judas did what he did.

    They had to of had some kind of text they were poring over.

    The center column on the page made reference to a scripture in Psalms. It does describe what Judas did, but not his name.

    People get confused because one of Jesus's brothers was named Judas. You have to google Iscariot.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 22
    It's nothing. Thought it might be someone from a church I went to 35 years ago. Reliving early street ministry days
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Psalms 26:2
    Mishael Are the gifts and calling of God irrevocable?

    Mark 6:7 And he (Jesus) called (unto him) the (including Judas) twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;

    skip to Mark 6:13 And (the 12 apostles w/ Judas) they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them. (Judas was with the 12 doing these miracles and is his calling irrevocable?

    John Chapter 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

    John 6:71 He spake of Judas Iscariot [the son] of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

    Perdition means to fall

    John 17:12 While I (Jesus)was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. Judas was the son of perdition.

    Acts 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. (what place is Judas going to?)

    Matthew 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

    Matthew 26:25 Then Judas, which betrayed him, answered and said, Master, is it I? He said unto him, Thou hast said.

    Mark 14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

    Does this sound like Judas is still saved?
  • Rich on Isaiah 43:11
    Can we as Christians believe these same promises that God gave to the Israelis or are they just to the Jewish people at that time, Isaiah 43 vs 25, will he blot out my sins for his own sake if I ask for forgiveness?
  • Mishael on WHAT does God want on Psalms 26:2
    Bless the Holy Spirit! He's been reading your comments.

    As soon as I came in, I saw all the comments. The Holy Spirit said one word:


    That's what we do here, mostly lol. I was reminded of a couple of things: Genesis 2:19, God brought the animals etc to see (with pleasure) what Adam would name them. That's a lot of critters so I'm thinking it was a daily time together.

    Genesis 3:8, and they heard the voice of God !!! Walking in the garden in the cool of the day. I know I like walking, early evening. Forget the sin and stuff... God likes to walk with us. It could happen if we were ever in tune with Him.

    Watching in the night before Him. Listening. Talking to Him like he was in the room too?

    Fellowship. We were made for all kinds of fellowship, but primarily with God, through the Holy Spirit. He's NOT a floating ghostly vision: He is a Person. He would comfort us if we would let Him!

    Watchman, Watchman, what do you see ?

    Since you are all excellent searchers of the Word; here are some places of scriptures concerning 'fellowship' between us and God, by the power of the Holy Spirit, through the intercession of Jesus for his saints.

    Psalms 130:6, Psalms 19:2, 1 Corinthians 1:9

    Ephesians 3:9, books of John 15, 17

    Philippians 2:1-2, 3:10

    1 John 1:3, 6, 7. And more to discover...

    One time I was reading Ezekiel and got to the Valley of dry bones. When God said for him to prophesy! Every hair on my body stood up and when he said THUS SAITH THE knees gave way.

    He is so majestically Powerful, it takes your breath away.

    You can have a relationship /fellowship with the Godhead!

    Those scriptures will change from words on a page, to the living Word Of God! Alive, living in your heart, your mind, the text you write.

    You all need to ask the Holy Spirit for the Gift, of discerning of spirits. Covet the best gift: word of wisdom. Receive it. Gifts and callings are irrevocable.
  • Bob Hilt on Psalms 26:2
    Yeshua or Jesus? Heresy or Hebrew roots?

    Luke Chapter 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

    27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name [was] Mary.

    28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

    29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

    30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

    31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

    (Angel Gabriel gave JESUS his name from the Lord)

    so by what scriptural authority does anyone have to call him YESHUa?

    32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his

    father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    YESHU is a curse that means may his name be blotted out. This is commonly used by those who claim to be Noahides.

    They claim Noah was given a set of laws yet they exist only in the minds of Rabbis. I can not find Noah being given any laws in my King James.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Psalms 23:1
    Sam you are correct the Bible does not say anything about a female ruler.

    There is a heresy running around that the Holy Spirit is female called the SHEkinah or the glory of God.

    The word SHEkinah is nowhere in the Bible. So they claim God the Father and the Holy Spirit had a child the Son of God.

    The King James clearly calls the Holy Spirit HE

    John 16:13 Howbeit when HE he, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE he will guide you into all truth: for HE he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever HE he shall hear, that shall HE he speak: and HE he will shew you things to come.

    John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, HE he shall testify of me:

    My research as to where this female spirit thing comes from is those involved in the so called "Hebrew roots" movement that claims the King James Bible is mistranslated by pagan Greeks and is generally anti-Semitic in nature.

    They are the ones pushing the Yeshua instead of Jesus name.

    The main group that I can find with this SHEkinah thing is the Chabad Lubavitch group that claim they are practicing Judaism. Their main book is the Zohar, not the scriptures. The follow what is called Kabbalah which came from Babylon.

    The Hollywood celebs, like Madonna, wear red strings to ward off evil spirits are into this stuff.

    Look into this everyone I am not making this up. This is who many claim to be the chosen people.

    Chabad Lubavitch Kabbalah followers are the ones wearing the black clothes with the curls of hair hanging down.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Matthew 6:29
    Greetings Victor, there are two types of rewards. one for the righteous and another for the unrighteous.

    2 Peter 2:13 And shall receive the REWARD reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

    Writing of Judas Acts 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. (his pieces of silver for betraying Christ)

    2 Timothy 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:

    This is not a good reward.

    Then there are the rewards for the just in faith.

    Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    Jesus speaks in Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Matthew 7:2
    Greetings Victor, The Law when mentioned in the new testament generally refers to the first five books of the Bible attributed to Moses. Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. This is where the ten commandments are found.

    The prophets were the (major in size) writings of those like Jeremiah, Isaiah, etc.

    The Minor (in size) prophets were those like Amos, Jonah, Micah, etc.

    Someone asked Jesus what was the most important or great commandment.

    Matthew 22:36 - Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

    Matthew 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    Matthew 22:38 - This is the first and great commandment.

    Matthew 22:39 - And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    Matthew 22:40 - On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets.

    In other words if you keep the two commandments you keep them all.

    Well that and believing that Jesus is Christ

    Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Psalms 23:1
    You can't conform God to the sickness of society. You have no scriptures to base that thought, do you?
  • Kevin Rizzuti - in Reply on Revelation 1:8
    I need more information on Reverlations.
  • Michael - in Reply on Revelation 22
    what do you mean Z
  • Adam - in Reply on Ruth 1:22
    I disagree with this of course.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Ruth 1:22

    Until you can differentiate between human love/human faith, and the faith/love that the bible speaks of, we probably are not going to agree with each other on this one. What I am trying to tell you is that the faith and love that the bible speaks of is produced only by God's Spirit. No matter how hard we try, we cannot produce that type of faith or that type of love. So when we are volunteering to love God, or if our faith is voluntary, God will not accept that because it's not of His Spirit, but of our own human effort. You can call it free will if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it is you doing it out of your own human effort, volunteering to love God. And He will not accept that. I think if my children were to tell me that they were volunteering to love me, that would be heartbreaking. To me, that wouldn't be genuine love. I'm just trying to help you out here!
  • Adam - in Reply on Ruth 1:22
    Hi Jesse, we don't believe the same things. I believe everyone, including Christians, has freewill and there's lots of Biblical support for that like Joshua 24:15, Psalms 119:30. Freewill = voluntary choice. People have the freewill to choose to follow Jesus or not. So, yes our faith and love to God is voluntary. This is why Jesus gave so many warnings and parables about the gate being narrow going to heaven and wide the gate going to destruction. It's why Jesus kept challenging people to avoid sin, to obey and why he said this: John 14:15. If we were predestined robots with no freewill then Jesus likely wouldn't say all that. Instead he'd say everyone is free to do whatever, because it doesn't matter, sin is ok because everyone is going to heaven anyway, but obviously that's not the message. Satan wants everyone to think they don't need to take any action at all as a Christian, but just do nothing. But a Christian is literally a Christ-follower, and following is an action requiring movement in Jesus's direction. The more I read the Bible and the more I pray to God asking for wisdom and understanding in the scriptures the more He reinforces this truth. I'm already aware that some Christians don't believe this and I'm already aware of the points used for that view and I believe its unbiblical. God bless.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Ruth 1:22

    Do you think that God will accept our faith and love toward Him if it's voluntary faith and love? If I volunteer to put my faith in God and I volunteer to love God, that's not the faith and love that the bible speaks of. To volunteer to do something takes human effort, and I don't believe that our human effort pleases God at all. Do you know that there are two types of faith, and two types of love? God only accepts one of the two. If we volunteer to love Him and volunteer to put our faith in Him, He's not going to accept that one.
  • Sam - in Reply on Psalms 23:1
    Revelation 12:5 says that a Male child will be born and rule all nations with a rod of iron which is eternal. Where in the bible does it state that God will rule the world as a woman?
  • Bradley Mason on Malachi 3
    Clearly this chapter is often misinterpreted. He is not upset that they were not bringing their tithes of money, He was upset that they were not giving him his PRAISE. Clearl;y its stated that they have turned away from God, this was not about money, it was about acknowledgement of the Glory and Mercy of God. Yet, we continue to preach it all wrong.
  • Word 76 on 2 Thessalonians 2:7
    God wrote a whole chapter from Ezekiel 13 about the biggest lie that has ever been told to the people and the biggest liar is coming that will stand up in Jerusalem claiming he is God so beware. Now in that chapter its speaking of prophets/ preachers whom out of their own minds dream up Devine thinking leaving out God's Devine thoughts an thinking and they, the preachers that God hates came up with the lie to fly to save your soul but to this day I cannot figure out why people listen to preachers who teach the rapture lie. Always Study the KJV and not the Books that say birds that fly. Oh, get an old Strong's concordance.
  • Victor on Matthew 7:2
    what is "the law and the prophets"?
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Ruth 1:22
    That's fine, Jesse. Thank you.

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