Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 362

  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Hammer, I think it is time we end this line of conversation on this thread because we will not come to a good resolve.
  • T Levis - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Son of GOD, please read : John 3:16, Luke 1 & 2, John 17,

    John 5:30, John 10:17, John 14:23, John 16:27,

    Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18,19, 1John 2:26,27, Colossians 2:8,

    Hopefully helpful
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ryan,

    Paul never said that his writings are strictly for the Gentiles and the rest of Scripture is for the Jews. Your viewpoint adds to Scripture doctrines that are not there. I cannot concur with you on this. JESUS is our Apostle.
  • Ryan W - In Reply - 1 year ago
    You're suggestion that there's some who know him from the beginning, respectfully, is wrong. Knowing him from beginning means knowing him in the flesh, at the beginning of his ministry as Peter/the 12 did.

    We are not a prodigal church since anything. We are the body of Christ. I'm not sure what your point is there. It's wise for us to look at what scripture says. "We are a prodigal church" is simply mans opinion and is not scripture.

    We're the body of Christ and he is the Head. That is the spiritual truth.

    Also, you mention being deceived like Eve in 2 Cor 11, well rightly dividing the word of truth is in scripture; it's how God desires us to study his word 2 Tim 2:15; and it clears a lot of things up.

    If the church's doctrine was based on Romans - Phile (KJV, no "original language which isn't really original anyway; they use the classic greek. The original is koine) then lots of confusion would be cleared up. This isn't about a man (Paul). It's about the message. Paul is a chosen vessel. This is all because of the revelation of Jesus Christ. Ro-Phile is Christs' "spiritual ministry" or "heavenly ministry" if you like.

    I agree with you we don't have many young men "overcoming the world" types: it's because we don't preach sin, and we don't preach the ***true*** power the grace of God gives us. It's all about self righteousness and our works. That's what I gather at least.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ryan, prayerfully

    I do not agree with your dispensational view of Scriptures and especially that we are to focus on Paul rather than on Jesus or to not heed the Gospels or all of Scripture. I do not divide the Scriptures, prophecy, and history the way dispensationalist divide it up into dispensations.

    I do not think that 2 Tim.1:9-11 is speaking of dividing Scriptures up this dispensational way. Jesus never told us to do so and I believe He is the Sovereign of the universe, not Paul, Darby, Scofield, nor Bullinger. I believe this verse is speaking about correctly understanding and teaching about Scripture, not dividing it up into dispensations, whether 7, 9, or whatever a dispensational teacher might say. I also believe that 1 Tim. 3:16-17 tells that "ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works" So, to me, ALL means ALL. I don't think Jesus or any apostle said that any part of Scripture is not "for us". That idea is an addition to Scripture made by Darby, Bullinger and other leaders of dispensationalism.

    In Romans 11:13 Paul is simply speaking of the scope of his ministry, to preach to the Gentiles the Gospel of JESUS not the gospel of Paul. He was not making a directive to the Gentiles that we are only to follow what he teaches. JESUS is who we follow. Paul would cringe and be so adamant against what is taught by Darby and Bullinger, and Scofield. He would never amplify himself at the expense of any believer minimizing the teachings JESUS in the Gospels.

    Ryan, I say this because I am just as strong in my non-dispensational view as you are in your dispensational view. We do not need to dispute one another on this, in my opinion, but should allow believers to express their view and quote from all books of Scripture without others dismissing any of God's Word as being in applicable to believers.
  • Ryan W - In Reply - 1 year ago
    It goes back to what I keep saying lol. I don't understand why everyone doesn't get this: 2 Tim 3:16. But what comes before it?

    What comes before chapter 3? Chapter 2, and more specifically, 2 Tim 2:15. If we're going to study any of scripture, we must rightly divide it. In other words, we must study ***in light of the revelation of Jesus Christ, according to the mystery***.

    James 2 and Romans 4 are perfect examples. James 1:1 he is specifically talking to the Israel of God (the believing remnant that will "come out" in Jacob's Trouble).

    They "contradict each other" and that's perfectly ok. Why? Because both passages are written to different people during different dispensations. James 2: written to the remnant during Jacob's Trouble (the start of the dispensation of the kingdom) and written **for** our learning (but not our doctrine) and Romans 4: written to us in this dispensation of the grace of God (written to us and is our doctrine because we're under the mystery, the dispensation of the grace of God.)

    James is not apart of the Body of Christ. Nor is the writer of Hebrews. (Paul didn't write Hebrews - Heb 2:1).

    I don't understand why everyone is trying to correct me on something I've stated multiple times now.

    Me: 2 Tim 3:16 all scripture is for us but we have to rightly divide it 2 Tim 2:15

    You: Yeah but all scripture is for us.

    Me: ....yeah I know. You're at the half way mark. Not the finish line. I'm trying to help you open your eyes to truly understanding scripture. It would be wise to inquire the truth God's opened my eyes too. I'm trying to shew you a more excellent way: God's way, how he wants us to go to scripture today.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Agreed, Adam. We should definitely take in the whole counsel of Scriptures concerning how a believer is to live in Christ.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello David, I am following this thread between you and Adam. I hope you don't mind me entering in. I don't think that Adam is proclaiming a gospel of works at all. He stated openly that we are saved by grace. But what Adam is emphasizing is that we are "being saved" in this life towards the end of receiving the fullness of salvation when Jesus returns and we are all resurrected or changed and then judged by Jesus, which is biblically taught. The Holy spirit is our earnest, guarantee, our "taste" of salvation in this life. We have received mercy and have been made new by the work of the Holy Spirit in our conversion. But many places in Scripture warn us to stay faithful to the end. And to actually be faithful to the end we cannot do without being born again and have the Holy Spirit working in us.

    Adam is has not said that we need to obey God to be saved or do any sort of "work". He does not say that we need to continue to obey God to stay saved. He does say that one can turn away from God once born again through disobedience. Our good works and obedience do not "keep" us saved, but our disobedience and apostasy will bring us back to a state of spiritual death.

    Adam, correct me if I have misrepresented your viewpoint.

    Within Christendom there are those who believe, as Calvinists do, that one is eternally secure once they are born again/converted, since only those who are elect can be truly converted and cannot resist God's calling.

    There are others who believe that any and all people can come to salvation in Jesus by grace through faith, and that, though God draws someone to the Gospel, one can resist Him and not be converted. Also, some believe that once someone has been converted, that same person can apostatize and turn away from God. Some who do this may return to God once again and some do not. Those who do not remain unsaved into eternity.

    This debate has been going on for several centuries. Probably won't be resolved.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi David, I was wondering how you would explain that and reconcile what the Bible says with your belief.

    These verses are in context and contradict what you are claiming, but even though they're in context and you just click or hover over it to read the whole chapter or book you just dismissed it as not being in context.

    I noticed your response didn't have any Bible verses supporting your view.

    I believe in and stand by Jesus's words. It sounds like you're accusing Jesus of being about "works." You do so at your own risk. I will not be ashamed for believing in what Jesus says, even if people use all kinds of tricks to attack.

    Jesus: "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15

    You: No, don't obey, because that's works.

    Is that really your position that it's "bad" to obey Jesus, and "good" to not obey Jesus?

    If so, that sounds exactly like something satan would say. Such a clever deception to get people to believe its somehow bad to do good and good to do bad. As if God wants people to disobey Him!?

    Also I noticed you used the same straw man argument everyone else has been taught to use that if you want to follow Jesus then automatically you're trying to work towards heaven and there's no other possibility. I already said we're saved by grace, which seemed to be ignored. Of course I already answered this fallacy in advance, but maybe you didn't read it or did and claimed this fallacy anyway. Anyway, I feel a moral obligation to counter the lies on here and anyone claiming that its bad to follow and bad to obey Jesus is just is not speaking the truth. The Bible warns Christians of this throughout scripture.

    Matthew 7:21-23

    Hebrews 10:26

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    James 2:14-26

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Peter 1:5

    1 Cor 9:24-27

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Continuation from previous reply.

    Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    Do you notice who's doing the building? The Lord himself! PRECIOUS STONE!

    Our own efforts can only build straw houses. ( Wood hay and stubble)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi. Allelee.

    The Apostles lais the foundation in which we are to build upon.

    Jesus is the Cornerstone. ( In building the Cornerstone is the first and most important part of the foundation. The rest of the building depends on It's perfection. afterwards the foundation is layed. (THE APOSTLES)

    Then the comes the building. (US.)

    Once the building has started there is no need of another foundation. This is what Christ was saying in Matthew 16:18. " upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

    HE was speaking of himself referencing Peters answer. ( Matthew 16:16 "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Ephesians 2:19-22. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

    And are built upon the FOUNDATION OF THE APOSTLES AND PROPHETS, Jesus Christ himself being the chief CORNER STONE;

    In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

    In whom YE ALSO ARE BUILDED TOGETHER FOR AN HABITATION of God through the Spirit.

    Also see.

    1 Corinthians 3:10-11 (KJV) According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

    For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    God bless.
  • Javier - 1 year ago
    Why does Jesus need to pray if he is god?
  • Alex1939 - 1 year ago
    Alex1939...The reason Jesus has to know us is b/c we have to be bornagain of his incorruptible seed...even by the words of God that New Covenant IN HIS BLOOD...My lil Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you...Thats y he has to know us so that Christ might be formed in us...Truth is the sower of that good seed is Christ the Bridegroom...Thats y he is saying whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth me...And that good seed are the words of God...And he that soweth that good seed is Christ the son of man...The bridegroom...It all goes back to the great Promise when God swore by his very self that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thus the need for a sower and his seed but it had to be a heavenly seed ...As we have borne the the image of the earthy we must also bear the image of the heavenly...Which is the H.G. the multiplication of very God as Jesus said to whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods...And the scripture cannot be broken...When he breathe on them he was propagating very God which was the H.G. That Child of PROMISE...Which is Spirit as that which is born of the spirt is spirit...As God is spirit..Remember Jesus said the good seed are the Children of the Kingdom.

    But she halted...As Micah 5:3 said he wd give them up till the woman is in travail and birth pains...Then the remnant of his brethren will come and be a sign to Israel and the world...We are still in that time of desolation when no man can work...Jesus said i am the light of the world but the night comes when no man can work...While the bridegroom tarried they all slumbered and slept..But on the 3 rd day he made a New Wine which was better then the 1st wine...Which is when that book is opened on the last day as God told Daniel...Thats when Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30:6...For the babes and sucklings that are able to worship God with a perfect praise.Which are the words of the book...The Womans Children
  • David0920 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The verses you quote need to be understood in the context of everything the Bible declares about the nature of our salvation.

    I'm sorry Adam, but you are proclaiming a gospel of works. And if that is our gospel, we are still under the law, and subject to all the penalties associated with disobedience to the law.

    If God has saved us and given us our resurrected soul, it means He has paid for all of our sins. Our obedience is then the EVIDENCE of our salvation, not the CAUSE nor the MEANS. We are no longer under the penalty of the law. Because Christ as our substitute has fully paid that penalty.

    God has written the Bible in a way so that if we insist on isolating certain verses, and ignoring others that bear on the question, we will get ourselves into serious trouble. We have only come to truth, when we can harmonize all of the verses that bear on a question.
  • Gerald - In Reply - 1 year ago
    While the letter was primarily written to the Hebrews we shouid not think it is not applicable or unprofitable to study for the gentiles .

    Indeed if you want to witness to any Jew it would be worth anyones time to study well that letter .
  • Gerald - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Rather than take one part of an argument perhaos looking at it as a whole wouid help you come to a different conclusion.

    Given so many ' versions' of the Bible out there all boasting in their " better understanding" etc yet proving quite the opposite has led to the people of God all like sheep going their own way having their own private interpretations . There is a lack of understanding because men are subjecting the Word of God to their intellects rather than subjecting their thinking to the Word of God and the Spirit of God .

    Even if you was right as to there being no more Apostles after Paul . The church still is not following him who in turn was following Christ .

    True there are many " little children who's sins are forgiven and who know the zFather .

    There are much less of " young men the word of God dwellers in you richly and you have overcome the wicked one".

    I would suggest there are fewer still who " know Him who is from the beginning "

    In truth there is a unity in the church but it is that unity of all being inside but the Lord is outside knocking .

    The promise however is to those who have ears towhead AND open the door"

    There is a unity of the need to being BORN again . But very little it seems on what comes after .

    Much is preached on the milk of the Word . But not much meat .

    We have made the wandering in the wilderness for 40 years the Christian norm .

    Jordon is death and heaven the promised land .

    Not so.

    It only took them just over two years to get from Egypt to the promised land .

    They did not enter in days Paul because of their unbelief .

    Yet two who were ready who could have gone in who could not go in still did so 40 years later .

    Paul warns the church not to be like them who entered ot in because of unbelief .

    Nor to be like Eve who was deceived .

    The unity of the church is to the lowest common denominator . It is not that unity of John 17 yet.

    We are a prodigal church since the Reformation .
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    More on this important topic concerning our works ans righteousness.

    Romans 10:10. Says 'For with the heart man believeth UNTO "righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

    Ephesians 2:10 (KJV) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO 'good works", which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

    The righteousness is not of the law as mentioned and the works is not the working of the law. 2 Corinthians 3:3-4. Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

    And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

    This is performed by Christ being in you and he will abide in you until the end.

    Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it UNTIL THE DAY OF JESUS CHRIST:

    1 John 5:10-12. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

    AND THIS IS THE RECORD, THAT GOD HATH GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, AND THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON.

    He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

    We either have Jesus or ww don't!

    If we have Jesus we have life and that life is sealed and eternal.

    I love the way the scripture plainly put it. "GOD HATH GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, AND THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON.

    God bless.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ok, I don't share that particular belief with you because of what the Bible says:

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

    Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

    Gal 5:4 "ye are fallen from grace."

    Matthew 10:22 "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."

    "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12 KJV

    "Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10 KJV

    Salvation is conditional upon following Christ. Those who hate or don't follow Christ aren't going to be saved, based on what the Bible says.

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 7:21-23

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

    I don't know how some can read these verses and twist them into meaning anything other than what they mean. This should be prayed about very deeply.

    God bless.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi David,

    God said this:

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    So, God clearly tells us we will NOT be forgiven if we commit this sin and what I hear you saying is that we WILL. Both are not true. One is false. I tend to believe what God says, not what man says. Because God already said if you blaspheme the Holy Ghost you will NOT be forgiven then that is the truth. That makes anything contrary to that false and in some cases a blatant lie.

    But maybe people don't like that verse and want to discredit it. Well, here's another then:

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    But I believe this misunderstanding has 2 dimensions. One is when we are "saved" and the other is "eternal security." The Bible doesn't say we're saved before we're judged. This is something Christians for years have been mentally "filling in the blanks" on but if you read carefully God never once said we will be instantly saved the second we believe. If you have a verse claiming that, please share it. But I can assure you for every verse you share, there's probably twice as many saying otherwise.

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    "Hope" not, guarantee, but "hope." Grace "that is to be brought" future tense. It doesn't say now, or past tense.

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    This refutes man's claims of being saved now and can go to adult clubs and do whatever they want. That's exactly what satan is trying to convince people of. Very clever deception.

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

    Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

    Hebrews 10:36.

    Where is your evidence of the opposite of Gods words? God bless.
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on Psalms 138 - 1 year ago
    Alex1939...Brenda good question...This wedding hall is the Kingdom of God and the friend that has no wedding garment is the Tare that satan has put there...Remember Jesus said to let them grow together till the Harvest...The wheat and the Tares...The Tares cannot have a wedding garment simply b/c he is satan's seed...That is gonna be burnt in the end...But the wheat and the Tares are friends simply b/c they live in the same body...Till the Harvest...They are the 2 men in the field...One taken and one left....An old friend that eats at my table has lifted up his heel against me...Which was Judas a type of satan...The Tare Satans seed.

    ....The Wheat is a baby Christ that New Creature..The H.G. The manchild that is gonna rule all nations...Simply b/c the sower of that good seed is Christ the bridegroom...Our wedding garment is Christ as the manchild..The H.G. THAT HAS TO BE BORN IN US...Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth me...She brought forth a man Child that is gonna rule all nations...Nothin availeth anything in Christ Jesus but a New CREATURE Which is the H.G. that has to be born in us via the seed of Christ and his NEW Covenant that he wrote with his own blood...The manchild which is the H.G. is the only thing that allows us to enter the Kingdom...Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.

    ....One thing that is for sure The Kingdom does not come till the BOOK is opened in Rev 5:9 ...As God tells Daniel..And after the book is opened then John saw a number that no man cd number of all ppl from around the world of all nations...And Rev. 12:10 says now is come Salvation and the Kingdom of our God and his Christ ( the H.G. is the manchild...Which is the that New Covenant in his blood and the Kingdom.

    .....This N.C. is a different story then the O.C....While we were yet sinners Christ died for us...And i was found of them that sought me not and i was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I thought it was necessary to bring clarity to a portion of my previous.

    When I said Gigi this is the example I have given when one trample over the blood of Christ. Hebrews 10:29.

    I was referring to another thread where I said to act as tho Christ blood shed on the cross is inadequate and try to add our filthy rags to His finish work it's like what is mentioned here in Hebrews 10:28-28.

    I also would like to add.

    Hebrews 10:20-24. By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

    And having an high priest over the house of God;

    LET US DRAW NEAR WITH A TRUE HEART IN FULL ASSURANCE OF FAITH, HAVING OUR HEARTS SPRINKLED FROM AN EVIL CONSCIENCE, AND OUR BODIES WASHED WITH PURE WATER.

    LET US HOLD FAST THE PROFESSION OF OUR FAITH WITHOUT WAVERING; (FOR HE IS FAITHFUL THAT PROMISED;)

    And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

    We can be sure!!
  • Ryan W - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Not so, it's the lack of this belief that has the church in so much trouble.

    We'd be in unity if you all understood rightly dividing the word of truth. It's right there in scripture.

    How do you not see it? 2 Tim 2:15
  • Ryan W - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hebrews is written to the Hebrews.

    Rom 11:13 /// 2 Tim 1:9-11

    Paul is our apostle ordained by revelation of Jesus Christ which is part of the mystery that God kept secret.
  • Ryan W - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Perhaps you may have glanced over my comment. I address 2 Ti 3:16.

    The words "for" and "to" mean different things.

    It's all for us yes (as I've already said) You're only half right. The other half is only some of it is written specifically to us and is about us. That's Romans to Philemon. The rest of it is God dealing with Israel.

    Paul is the apostle **to** the gentiles.
  • Michael on Revelation 1 - 1 year ago
    Is Ch 4 of Revelation when Belivers are raptured? God bless..thank you.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    TanyaRachel,

    I also believe in eternal security, or as you put it, "Once saved, always saved."

    Ephesians 1:14 would also add to the verse you have shared. It says, "Which (or who) is the earnest (or guarantee) of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

    It's after we heard, after we believed, we were sealed. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit. He doesn't give us a seal. He is the seal.



    He's the mark of ownership and He has sealed the believer so that no spiritual force or otherwise can penetrate their spirit. They've been sealed by the Holy Spirit and filled with the Spirit of Christ.

    It's nice to know that in the midst of our weaknesses that the presence of God's Spirit is our guarantee, until the redemption of the purchased possession.



    Since redemption means purchased, it is making reference to the coming of Christ, when our redemption will be realized.

    We've been purchased and we're sitting at the will call window, so to speak. He hasn't picked us up yet. But when Christ comes, He's going to come for the purchased possession. That's every believer.

    Ephesians 4:30 tells us that we are sealed with the Spirit of God "until" Christ comes.



    So every believer is preserved. We're being kept for Christ at His coming. That's our guarantee that we are being preserved for Him.

    We have eternal life in Christ Jesus. I have eternal life, not based on my human performance, but because Christ lives in me, and He is eternal.
  • Hammer63 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Gigi, take the time to ponder Exodus 32 and compare it to what you have written in this thread. I agree that God's character is the same yesterday, today and forever. That He knows the hearts of man. He knows how things end up, but when it comes to the extreme, sinful "actions of man" it comes to me that it surprises him how evil man can become. It also seemed like he didn't expect Nineveh to repent (an extreme action), otherwise he would have told Jonah that I am just going to tell them I will destroy them and they will repent and I won't have to do it. It seems like He didn't expect Ahab to repent (an extreme action), so He changed the judgement against him so it would not occur in Ahab's lifetime. God's anger in Exodus 32 was so great that Moses had to remind him of His covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In the account of Sodom and Gomorrah the Lord said "I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know." Just some things to ponder.
  • David0920 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Free Will

    The Bible is crystal clear that in our unsaved condition, all of mankind following the sin of Adam is "DEAD in trespasses and sins" and "in BONDAGE to sin" and "SLAVES of satan". And that "there is NONE righteous, no NOT ONE", there is NONE that seaketh after God"

    Unsaved man does not have a free will in any spiritual sense. We cannot and will not seek God with OUR WHOLE HEART until God gives us a NEW HEART.
  • David0920 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ryan,

    ALL scripture from Genesis to Revelation is "The Very Word of God" and is for us TODAY.

    2 Tim 3:16,17 ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto good works.
  • Gerald - In Reply on Ecclesiasticus 4 - 1 year ago
    The Spirit of wisdom is the Holy Spirit .

    Who was in the beginning and mentioned in Genesis chapter 1.

    It is of no profit to anyone to take one verse and build a mountain upon it .

    For if you try and reason all of scripture by the one verse you will fall into error .

    But rather we are to see one verse in the light of all the scriptures .

    The devil tempted eve by giving only half truth ,land adding to the Word of God;"not" and thus changed the truth into a lie .

    " thou shalt not surely die"

    The devil tempting Jesus in the wilderness took also the scriptures and left stuff out or out of context .Thus the devil uses the scriptures to tempt the people of God .

    Which is why God in his infinite wisdom has given not on,y the body of truth ,the scriptures but also the Spirit of truth to " lead us into all truth ".

    The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of wisdom ,the Spirit of truth . The Spirit of Christ , The fear of God , and three other. "The seven spirits of God " Not that God has seven Spirits . But even as the 7 branched oil lamp in the tabernacle was made of one piece of gold and having seven branches it was nevertheless one .

    When he Holy Spirit came on the day of Pentecost , " IT" meaning one , fell on them all as separate flames as of tongues.

    Not that the Holy Spirit is an ' it' or impersonal something or other . For all of scripture teaches that He is a Person and one of The Trinity of God three or persons but ONE God .

    We do not need additions to the Holy Bible nor indeed do we need others who have added ,subtracted and mistranslated .

    For the scriptures teach " The Word of God is the seed "

    A seed has this characteristic . It is not the tree or the fruit . But it does have everything that is needed and nothing that is not needed to reproduce the fruit .

    You can indeed mix a horse with a donkey and you will get a mule . But a mule cannot reproduce itself .

    You can indeed mix truth with error and you will get something . But it too will produce not


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