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  • Sandra Torres - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    Thank You!

    I so appreciate Your feedback.

    I have a question though. Why would Elijah abd Elisa be left behind?
  • Richard - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    Brother Misael,

    I'll keep this one short and sweet as the last post I made didn't seem to make it up. I very much enjoy reading your writings and this is to you. Last year, after being led to and accepting Christ, I heard very loud trumpet blasts one night. It was an intimate experience when the Lord came to me. I have typed a detailed Testimony of what happened to me as it was all centered around Jesus Christ and our Father. I allowed this site to publish what I wrote in their book as they ask after submitting your Testimony. I don't know how long after submitting your Testimony when it will come up in that section. You're the one who informed me that there was a section for Testimonies.

    I just felt to write this to you brother. God Bless.
  • Andy G van den Berg - in Reply on Numbers 17

    Please consider the following as you follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ.

    God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit (John 4:24; Ephesians 4:3-6,13).

    Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

    Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me (Isaiah 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Romans 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Galatians 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).

    John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

    1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

    Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).

    You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life (John 5:39,40).

    He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man (1 Corinthians 2:15).

    There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true (Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).

    We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above (1 Corinthians 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation (Romans 10:2-4).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg
  • Vincent - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    Good question.

    Yes there is a pre-tribulation rapture! Hope to see you there!

    The two witnesses (Enoch and Elihah I believe) were men in the Old Testament who never dies and were raptured. In the Tribulation, they are sent to preach to those people during the Tribulation (Jews). And yes, there is also a post tribulation rapture of Tribulation saints i.e. those who obtained salvation, including the two witnesses I believe. HOWEVER, these people are not "alive in Christ" perse. There are no "Christians" / Body of Christ in the Tribulation because they have been raptured at this point. Salvation is not through Christ's blood atonement in the Tribulation, believe it or not, salvation reverts back to the Mosaic Law (Matthew ch 5-7,24) There will also be an angel proclaiming an "everlasting gospel" (Revelation 14:6).

    Good question. I hope this helped.
  • Vincent Calvert - in Reply on 1 Peter 4:12
    What is it God has called you to do?

    The Bible expressly says women shall not have authority of man in areas of teaching doctrine and spiritual matters (1 Timothy 2:12).

    1 Timothy 3 speaks of the leadership within the church and how only men shall hold those portions of authority. Bishop (Pastor) is to be a husband of one woman. It does not say the bishop shall be the wife of one man etc. Look at all those masculine pronouns.

    The serpent beguiled Eve: 2 Corinthians 11:3, then Eve technically lead Adam to sin, even though he should have known better (Genesis 3:6).

    As you can see in the marriage hierarchy, it goes: God, husband, then woman (Ephesians 5:24,25).

    Man has authority but is not to be a dictator. He is to protect his family and church both spiritually and physically. Any man that does not take into consideration anything a woman says simply because she is a woman, is unscriptural. But there is a biblical time and place for woman to serve. Female pastors are unbiblical. Female teachers (of doctrine etc) is unscriptural if teaching men. A woman is to be taken seriously and to be treated lovingly, but she cannot do everything man does.

    Women have and do play a major role in christian faith in many areas including teaching young women and children (Titus 2:4).

    As the above comments show, women can prophesy, which mean they can proclaim Biblical truth. With all things, it must be done according to the Bible.

    Do not listen to anybody who says "do not worry about what man thinks." This is not a Biblical mindset as the man is to provide sound, biblical guidance. This does not mean a woman can only get info from men (as earlier in my post).

    Also, (brief history lesson) all pagan religions worship a female goddess. Could this also be the reason why God chose man to be the leader of church, family, school etc.?

    The Bible was written by a holy an perfect God. THE God of the universe and beyond. What is written in there is truth and should be taken seriously
  • Bibles are great to read.
  • D.J. - in Reply on Genesis 2:9
    Janice Lane,

    Angels are described in Scripture as having light associated with their appearance or presence; Acts 12:7, 2 Corinthians 11:14, Revelation 18:1.

    Again, I stated that Adam and Eve were AS angels of light; because they had not at that point in time sinned yet. They were as pure as a human could be. I never said I read that in Scripture.

    I stated that the covering that God put on them MAY have been actual skin. I never said I read that in Scripture either.
  • KENNETH JOHN REAUME - in Reply on John 9:4
    I have many dates, times, and concerns, I did my past but never braught forth, I dont go to church for reasons of lies, like it wasnt God nor Ceasars but Roman Chathlic..Religion hung a man on the cross for not witchery nor magic but faith with in you to change.... I feel something big in me and im scrambling all over.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Numbers 17
    Jesus sits at the right hand of God the Father, making intercession for the Saints.

    We need to sit with Jesus every day, for an hour, and pray what He is praying. You show yourself to have this burden too. A burden to pray, AWAKE SLEEPERS.
  • What are we gonna do about Jesus - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    What secular book did you read, to get this explanation of when everybody, dead then alive; are caught up into the clouds to Jesus Christ?

    The 2 people you speak of were translated to heaven without tasting death. When they return, to Jerusalem, they are going to preach the Gospel to the Jews, and to the entire planet, by satellite (Internet), and antenna (to the poor). Everybody on earth will see it. Antichrist will order them killed; which will be witnessed by everyone on earth.

    The Christians will already have been caught up.

    WE ARE ALL to be LOOKING for JESUS'S return. Listening for the shout and the trump of God. Only the Father knows when that moment will be. Christians must be actively looking and listening for that; every moment of every day or night.

    This is all written down in the Bible. You have no need that any man teach you. We all have the ability to accept what is already written. Jesus would say to us: IT IS WRITTEN!!

    Other than the well known "caught up" scriptures, many many more OT prophesies are in the Bible like gems, that, light up those verses.

    This is no time to be fascinated by the secular explanation of these things. Books make money. They become idols, if it distracts you from the Truth of the pages in THE BIBLE. Jesus is not going to listen to excuses, like: but, but, I have this (secular) book that says, thus and so!!

    Just the words of, "but, but, but" are the language of goats. Who butt their heads against the revealed and known Truth of Gods Word. You must make a choice now: to FOLLOW JESUS.....or to follow the writer of a secular book.

    Everyone in this website has a responsibility to lead these people to the truth as a disciple of Jesus did (Peter, John, Paul, and the others). Not spilling out miles and miles of scriptures; but actually witnessing, preaching, one on one. Tell your TESTIMONY. Like Jesus, be real; be Jesus in the flesh.

  • Richard on Ephesians 4:11
    Hello brothers and sisters.

    I just feel to post about how much discord I see among people on things between the OT and NT. Not really here. It seems many people are taking to follow old Jewish laws more seriously than what Christ came to teach. Some believe that to be following the Lord rather than that of producing good fruits of the Holy Spirit within us. Galatians 5:22-23. Some denounce the writings of Saul/Paul. Where there are many wonderful things in his books that surround the Lord.

    It just saddens me to see some people focus on things before Jesus Christ came to us. Sticking to those things rather than what Christ and His apostles teach. I know there is much wisdom and the Word of God in the OT. We must all be careful. As, I have no interest in looking it up again, where I have read it is ok to kill a servant under certain circumstances. Would people really believe this was the Will of God? Or as when the people were going to stone the adulterous, under the law, and Jesus kept them from doing such a thing. Of coarse the pharisees and sadducees put Christ to death because they did not believe/agree with Him. As some of the hundreds of Jewish laws are good to abide by in my eyes. It is only a small percentage of the whole list. I do not condemn, or hate, anyone. It always makes me sad to see people argue, especially over things like this.

    I believe what "Brother Dan" posted about Gods law being the Ten Commandments. And what Chris stated as in reply on Psalms 72. I truly pray for all to come to the Lord to see with His eyes, and hear with His ears, and to live for Gods Will and to glorify Him always. God Bless everyone!
  • Sandra Torres on Matthew 24:9
    Folks in Christ during The Tribulation of the Anti-Christ will not be openly working in the fields! They will be running for Their lives! So Matthew 24:40-41 implies a Rapture before the Anti-Christ Tribulation.
  • Sandra Torres on Matthew 24:9
    Matthew 24:40-41 Sure implies that there will be a rapture of Those in Christ! Peace time is described here not Tribulation time. So this Rapture has to happen when Folks in Christ are not in The Tribulation of The Anti-Christ.
  • Danielle Heurtelou on Amos 3
    Great bible verse
  • Sandra Torres on Matthew 24:9
    Matthew 24:23 The Secret Chambers here is meant that Jesus Christ is in Folks in Christ.
  • Danielle Heurtelou on Amos 3
    Great bible verse
  • Sandra Torres - in Reply on Revelation 11
    Thank You.
  • Sandra Torres on Matthew 24:9
    Why would The Two Witnesses not be raptured when The Body of Christ is raptured? If a rapture happens PreTribulation then it has to be when The Two Witnesses get raptured. If Post Tribulation then it that rapture would br solely described of Matthew 24:40. Which means that only The Two Witnesses get raptured PreTribulation. Which means that those alive in Christ after The Two Witnesses get raptured up would have to live through the Anti-Christ Tribulation until Jesus Christ's Second Coming.
  • Stephen Botts - in Reply on Leviticus 8:13
    Moses is the writer of the first five books in the Bible. He is a type of Christ. He was God's rep to Israel. He appeared with Jesus on the mount of Transfiguration..The law came by Moses, grace and truth by Jesus Christ. Not enough room or time to answer your question fully. But study the life of Moses and and I hope you get saved if you're not. God bless you.
  • Sandra Torres on Matthew 24:9
    Matthew 24:14 could this be when the Two Witnesses preach in Golgatha where Jesus died?
  • Donna Ramirez on Numbers 15:38
    Do yu have a teaching on the jewish New Year
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on 2 Corinthians 1
    I find it intriguing to consider his writing finger relative to the following passages:

    Exodus 8:19 - Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.

    Exodus 31:18 - And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

    Psalms 8:3 - When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

    Daniel 5:5 - In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote.

    Luke 11:20 - But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
  • Emily on Exodus 28
    Wow all that gold would have been very heavy!!Its neat how God gave clear directions how to build the tabernacle and the ark.
  • Bev - in Reply on Psalms 25
    Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing,

    and obtaineth favour of the Lord.

    Proverbs 18:22 | KJV

    And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    Matthew 19:4-6 | KJV

    Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

    Colossians 3:18-19 | KJV

    Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

    Hebrews 13:4 | KJV

    Who can find a virtuous woman?

    for her price is far above rubies.

    Proverbs 31:10 | KJV

    A man's heart deviseth his way:

    but the Lord directeth his steps.

    Proverbs 16:9 | KJV

    Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

    Ephesians 5:25-26 | KJV

    Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

    1 Corinthians 7:2 | KJV

    And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

    Genesis 2:18 | KJV

    When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.

    Deuteronomy 24:5 | KJV

    And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

    Genesis 2:22-24 | KJV

    Wives, submit you
  • Bev - in Reply on Psalms 25
    Bible Verses About Homosexuality

    Genesis 19:1-11

    That evening the two angels came to the entrance of the city of Sodom. Lot was sitting there, and when he

    saw them, he stood up to meet them. Then he welcomed them and bowed with his face to the ground.

    "My lords," he said, "come to my home to wash your feet, and be my guests for the night. You may then

    get up early in the morning and be on your way again." "Oh no," they replied. "We'll just spend the night

    out here in the city square." But Lot insisted, so at last they went home with him. Lot prepared a feast for

    them, complete with fresh bread made without yeast, and they ate. But before they retired for the night, all

    the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. They shouted to

    Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex

    with them!"

    So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. "Please, my brothers," he begged,

    "don't do such a wicked thing. Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you

    can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my


    "Stand back!" they shouted. "This fellow came to town as an outsider, and now he's acting like our judge!

    We'll treat you far worse than those other men!" And they lunged toward Lot to break down the door. But

    the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door. Then they blinded all the men,

    young and old, who were at the door of the house, so they gave up trying to get inside.

    Leviticus 18:22

    "Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."


    Leviticus 20:13

    "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have

    committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."


    Judges 19:16-24

    That evening an
  • Brother dan - in Reply on Psalms 72

    Thanks for sharing the scripture.

    Yes, I agree with you brother. We should be helping each other always, even on the Sabbath, and everyday of the week, and in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus set the example for us to follow. So many times we get detoured, and thank God that we can read the Bible, and pray for understanding.
  • Mazie S Blue - in Reply on Psalms 123
    I thank you for your Commentary On Psalms Chapter 123.
  • ANTHONY UDZU on Isaiah 30:1
    The lord god is a son and shield to all who believe and will also give same grace and glory and bever will he with hold anything good from such people.
  • D.J. - in Reply on Psalms 72

    Concerning the 7th Day.

    Most people use Sunday because they can't shake customs and traditions.

    You are following the Sabbath day requirement because you feel compelled to.

    The 7th day was established for ALL of mankind back on the 7th Day of Creation (Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 34:21, etc. etc.) and was never abolished.

    (Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

    If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week. This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishing of it. It was made to last forever.

    This is a day that God BLESSED and SANCTIFIED! Christ always honored the Sabbath. The Apostles kept the Sabbath after the death of Christ; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

    Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

    In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH.

    Christ never abolished the Sabbath.

    God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed, He would have made it abundantly clear.

    Have you considered looking at the Dead Sea Scrolls?

    The Book of Enoch, in particular, reveals a 364 day solar priestly calendar.

    52 (weeks) x 7 = 364

    The calendar begins after the Spring Equinox.

    Look at the first book of Enoch; specifically, ch. 72, and ch. 82 (column 27) are words concerning the ancient solar calendar.
  • FRANCES j DONALDSON on 1 Corinthians 11:26
    what does shorn mean

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