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  • Robert Graham on 1 Corinthians 13
    Explain the difference between The tongues of Angels and Diverse Tongues.and it's purpose.
  • Suziq - in Reply on Romans 1:29
    Amen Diane ! Keep your eyes on Israel !
  • Suziq - in Reply on Proverbs 1:19
    Jesus doesnt say the words 'the deceitfulness of riches ' lightly .
  • Suziq - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 2:11
    Oh my ! Please dont say that Bob ! Do you really think that some people dont read the Bible properly ,as a book or books ? No way ! Please tell me no one is dumb enough to risk their own salvation by just reading bits of it ! However ,that might explain some of the off kilter answers that are posted here ,please ,any one who doesnt or hasnt ever read the whole Bible more than ten times ,dont try to answer questions .
  • Genene Gemede on Psalms 5
    Your Comment...let God bless you!. I have satisfied on your work more.
  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - in Reply on Philippians 4
    Matthew 7:6 (Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.) When you do something right do you say I am sorry for doing this right and good deed or do you say sorry for something that you do wrong. The Word of God should not be used for argument;

    James 3:16

    (For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.)

    1 Corinthians 14:33

    (For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.) As I stated before, believe what you want to, God gives us the freedom of choice. I will close by telling you I will be praying for you.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Thanks Michael,

    I will be copying them for future use.

    God bless you.
  • Fasting Helps - in Reply on Esther 4
    Jesus fasted for 40 days and nights. The Bible says that at the end, Jesus hungered. He was drinking water. After 3 days, the body starts breaking down without water.

    I was taught that not fasting is sort of a reckless lifestyle. Regular fasting dissolves the glue stuck to the walls in our intestines. Fasting makes the body turn upon itself and "eat" up things that are unhealthy.

    I fast to get direction from the Lord. I can do a week. God has helped me make hard decisions; He's given me insight on scripture meanings. I've had visions; word of wisdom; word of knowledge. It depends on what you are praying about prior to the fast.

    Fast from food, Feed on the Bible.

    However, the hardest fasts are to unplug all media. Put the phone on vibrate for emergencies only. Turn all the noise off. Make joyful song yourself, unto the Lord. You are totally free to hear what the Holy Spirit speaks to your spirit.

    Satan doesn't want us to fast. You'd be surprised at all the "emergencies that can spring up." :/

    Study how Jesus fought spiritually against Satan on that 40 day fast. How did He do the warfare?

    This is how we break strongholds in our lives; or in someone else's life (that we are praying for). I think fasting is private and we don't brag about it or cry over glasses of water, when the family is in the kitchen eating meals. It's as unto the Lord.

    If you're diabetic, you can still fast. Take your meds, but don't eat pleasant foods to keep yourself stable. Check your levels. Bouillon is warm and makes the body release the hormone that says you're full.

    Fasts over a week: when you end it and begin to eat again, nothing real heavy at first. Your body has to awaken slowly for a few days.

    Write down what you learn from the Lord during your fast.
  • Chris - in Reply on Nehemiah 8
    Brother Dan, rather than go through all those points again, making this thread repetitious, Romans 8:1-4 shows us where the wonder of the New Covenant lies. And this "isn't a free ticket to sin" as you suggest. And I agree with you, "The scripture is about the Spirits Law - is the Holy Spirit residing in our heart that helps us to avoid sin."

    In verse 2, we have a comparison: the Law given by God's Spirit or the Law given at Sinai that revealed sin & brought death. And Paul says that this New Law has freed him from the Old. So the question must be asked, "what is this new Law & how can it replace the old?" You've said that it "helps us to avoid sin". That's certainly the case...and more. The Holy Spirit Who has come to indwell us has only done so as a result of the New Covenant. No Covenant - No indwelling. The Spirit does much in a believer's life: apart from His baptism into God's family & sealing us to never be lost, He teaches us the holy requirements of our Father & convicts us when we err from the Truth & may need to discipline us when we're stubborn.

    So does the Spirit's Law differ much from the Decalogue? Jesus gave us a hint in Matthew chapter 5. He spoke to His disciples of the "righteousness of the Scribes & Pharisees". And we know how 'righteous' they were: ensuring every Law was obeyed & their addition of the 'extras' making the Law burdensome to all. But with all that, the commandment was "Thou shalt not kill & Thou shalt not commit adultery". And the religious leaders were careful with that & ensured that all complied or else be punished. Jesus then spoke of the evil & intent that lay in the heart & that's where the commandments were broken.

    Now to those with God's Spirit, we can no longer appeal to the Law of Sin & Death, for that will continue to enslave us & give us our due punishment. But through the Spirit, He gives to our hearts & minds the fullness of God's Laws which far surpass the Old. How can we then make any appeal to the Old?
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Nehemiah 8
    Hi Michael,

    I agree with you on not having to keep the "7th day Sabbath". Another verse I came across tonight to back that is Galatians 4:9-11. I don't know if I understand correctly your statement of "we are commanded the opposite". As I stated, my feeling, that to follow Christ is to be Holy as He is Holy as in 1 Peter 1:14-17, Hebrews 12:14. To strive to keep every day Holy retaining the Lord in us. That following love from a pure heart is what makes God our Father and Christ happy 1 Peter 1:22-23.

    To the Ten Commandments. Like I stated I believe they are good and are throughout the NT, as to follow them, though all spread out. Here is one actually discerning it as a commandment of the OT Ephesians 6:1-2. Here are the rest in different places. Romans 1:28-32, Galatians 5:19-21, 2 Timothy 3:1-5, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Colossians 3:1-10. As you are able to go through all those epistles of the NT and see it notes the same things the Ten Commandments tells to us to stay away from. Even more as some are in the Mitzvot laws. As stated there are a lot that are void though just letting the Spirit guide you, you can see the ones that are moral and righteous.

    Love from a pure heart is above all and shall never fail Colossians 3:12-17. Walking in the Spirit producing good fruit for the Lord. To keep us from the temptations and lusts of the flesh which leads to sin. Which no one is perfect and may slip and fall. To be vigilant and confess our sins in prayer they shall be forgiven. Though we are to strive to stay away(repent) from sin in our walk with the Lord to be Holy in this temple He has Blessed us with.

    Just to make clear if anyone may perceive I'm stating that "good works" is what saves us. That is not true and not what I'm stating. Though we are called by God through Christ to good works Ephesians 2:10. Showing our faith and newness of life in the Lord. All glory to our Father and Jesus Christ. Amen.

    God Bless you Michael.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 14
    Thank you Glenn. I will look at it when I get the time & will certainly follow his message with the Word. I'll get back to you, no doubt with some comments.
  • There are many ways to remove scriptures from the Bible , and they have been doing it for centuries.

    The most common way today and you can go on almost any web site

    It's through the word search , they do not include all words and verses where they can be found .

    Many people do not read the Bible in book form and miss out on many verses that do not show up in word searches.

    I highly recommend reading the Bible in a systematic way rather than through word searches jumping around the Bible . But word searches are convenient but also incomplete.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 14
    Thank you Pat, I did go over the Exodus 20 passage you gave. I had to go over it several times, & for the life of me, I can't see "Christ's Name, title and domain" in that passage. I even went to the Hebrew to verify the matter, & even that shows the Name of Yahweh even as verse 10 shows "the LORD thy God". So if there's a Seal in those verses, it isn't evident at all.

    Secondly, the Commandments were given to Israel for their explicit direction & obedience. Then what bearing have those commandments have on me, a Gentile? If you feel however, that as a Christian I must then come under the Law that I might then find grace through faith to be accepted of God, then there are ample Scriptures to refute that. But I would also direct you to Acts chapter 15 where this very matter was of great concern. Some were preaching the necessity of circumcision before receiving salvation. Paul, Barnabas, Peter & James spoke on this. The final word was that Gentiles were not required to be circumcised nor to come under the Law (verses 3 to 31), but had to be careful on those parts of the commandments that pertained to eating food offered to idols, consuming blood & fornication. But verse 24 "to be circumcised or keep the Law, we gave no such commandment".

    Thirdly, the Sabbath was to be observed by Israel as a day of rest, even as God rested from His Works - thus He hallowed it (made it a holy day, sanctified, set it apart). It was just a day of rest & given for possibly the following reasons: for Israel to trust Him to provide for that day; to rest the body from a working week of six days; to focus on the Lord & not be overcome with work & life's distractions. Indeed, both the Decalogue (including Sabbath) & circumcision marked out Israel as God's peculiar people, which no other nation received.

    Fourthly, to take this 4th Commandment & then give it a special status above the other nine, even to implying it as the seal of God rather than from the Holy Spirit, is disturbing. GBU.
  • Bonnie on Proverbs 1:19
    I love discussing the Bible. I see this scripture as saying that greed steals the life away of the one who is greedy. Working to amass wealth requires dedication, sacrifice, and for most compromise of morality and integrity. We lose our life because our focus is not on God. Some deemed as workaholics will spend their who life at the job. They are quick to sell away their life motivated by the greed of gain.
  • Lynda on Jeremiah 44
    Reading Jeremiah 44:17, do you think this was where the hail mary (catholic) use began?. To me it looks like it, confirm.
  • Curley Scott on Daniel 1
    What was Daniel's ages when he was taken from Judah to Babylon?

    What age was Daniel's age when he interpreted the hand writing on the wall for Belshazzar?
  • S Spencer - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 2:11
    Hi Bronc.

    Please give us the verse that's missing on the Kjv Website.

    Thanks
  • Michael - in Reply on Nehemiah 8
    Hello Dan. Thank you for your comments.

    A person cannot judge another man for not keeping the Sabbath in the Christian Church under the New Covenant. Under the Old Covenant, a person was required to judge such a person and stone them to death.

    However, in the New Covenant given to the Christian Church, the Elders of a Church are indeed required to judge a man who is sinning such as by committing fornication.

    At 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, there is a case of a man who is living in a state of sexual immorality. The Apostle Paul tells the Elders of that Church to judge and disfellowship that individual. Notice:

    1 Corinthians 5: 12, 13 "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."

    That unrepentant, sinful person had to be judged and be thrown out of the Church. Yes, those who break the serious laws of the New Covenant, such as fornication - a serious sin - were judged and expelled.

    However, no Christian could be judged for not keeping the Sabbath since the Sabbath was only given to Israel in the Old Covenant. The Apostle Paul and the other Apostles never commanded the Church to keep the Sabbath. If the Sabbath was that important, why would he not do so? Colossians 2:14-16 explains why. I invite you to read it.

    As for Matthew 5:18, I would suggest you also read the other portion of that statement recorded at Luke 16:16:

    Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were UNTIL John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."

    The Old Covenant was until John. Then, Jesus at his death with his blood, instituted the New Covenant or New Testament - laws found in the books of Romans to Revelation to the Christian Church - the so-called New Testament.

    I would also invite you to read Jeremiah 31:31-33 and Luke 22:20.
  • Eric Lopez on Esther 4
    Why fast? A sign of giving to the Lord in hopes for his glory? Going to assume so.
  • Michael - in Reply on Nehemiah 8
    Hello Dan.

    I would suggest that the "commandments" referred to in 1 John 5:2, 3 are not the 10 commandments nor the Mosaic Law commandments. If that were so, then Christians would be obligated to circumcise their children as per God's commandment at Leviticus 12:3. The New Testament said that circumcision is not required at Acts 15. Yet, that was a commandment of God. If we are to obey all God's commandments, then why do we not go up to Jerusalem three times a year as was commanded by God's commandment at Deuteronomy 16:16. Why do we not stone adulterers and adulteresses as commanded by God at Leviticus 20:10. That was his commandment.

    I would suggest that the "commandments" of God referred to at 1 John 5:2, 3 are the New Covenant commandments that were given to the Church through the Apostles via revelations such as to the Apostle Paul and inspiration as others wrote the New Testament - Romans to Revelation. In those instructions, we are never commanded to keep the Sabbath Day holy nor to keep the kosher laws. In fact, we are commanded the opposite:

    Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

    Therefore, Christians do not obey the Old Covenant Mosaic Law given to ancient Israel but only to the New Covenant Laws given to the Church via the Apostles through the epistles of Romans to Revelation. Jeremiah had prophesied such at:

    Jeremiah 31:31, 32 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: NOT according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
  • Pat - in Reply on Revelation 14
    Hi Chris. Ok Read Exodus 20: 8-11. in reference to the seal of God. Verse 11 bears the seal of God. It shows Christ's name, title and domain (Jesus or Lord, creator and heaven and earth). Just like a Justice of the peace. His/seal bears the name, title and district, parish or state. Revelation 14:9-11. The mark of the beast is the changing of God's Sabbath to Sunday by the beast power, Rome. It actually is the very thing they claim shows their authority is higher than that of God's word. Why does God tell us such terrible things will happen to those who receive this mark? God does not punish someone for breaking a law that he honestly knows nothing about, and never has a chance to learn about. The final test will be set up with two choices; obey God and keep His 7th Day Sabbath, be persecuted by man and be saved or obey man-made laws to force people to keep Sunday and receive the seven last plaques and be loss. Get a hold of this book National Sunday Law and read prayerfully. Stay bless and be bless.
  • Michael - in Reply on Nehemiah 8
    Christians are no longer under the Old Covenant Laws (the 10 commandments followed by approximately another 600 laws). Jeremiah prophesied:

    Jeremiah 31:31, 32 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

    You will notice that the New Covenant would NOT be like the Old Covenant. The New Covenant was inaugurated by the shed blood of Christ as per:

    Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

    Under this New Covenant, the Laws being stipulated namely in Romans to Revelation, we are never commanded to keep the Sabbath Day holy. In fact, we are commanded the opposite.

    Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

    Before the Mosaic Law was given at the time of the exodus from Egypt, the Bible never says that the faithful kept the Sabbath Day - whether that be Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc. Notice when the Sabbath was given and to whom:

    Nehemiah 9:13, 14 "Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments: And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:

    Ezekiel 20:10-12 Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them. Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them...

    The word "them" is referring to ancient Israel.
  • Bob on Isaiah 1
    3 v 10

    Verse 12 when there was no strange god among you .

    The Lord only works within holiness .
  • Jesse - in Reply on Matthew 24:3
    Bill,

    Shiloh was located approximately 25 miles north of Jerusalem.
  • Glenn Brooks - in Reply on Revelation 14
    Hello Chris, I can point you in different directions and they all lead to a world wide Sunday law. However I will make it simple and if this video does not make you think . What would? Try watching on YouTube...Charlie's d brooks the mark of the beast.....1 hr 10 min of your time with lots of bible references. The first 15 minutes it may not seem to be going anywhere but hang in there. Charles is no relationship to me.
  • Michael - in Reply on Matthew 24:3
    Jesus' blood does save but notice...

    1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

    This verse reminds us that the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanses us from all sin IF we walk in the light. Thus, if we do not walk in the light but rather walk in darkness, that blood does not cleanse us from all sin and save us.

    Acts 5:32 "And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him."

    This verse reminds us that the Holy Spirit is given to them who obey God. Those who do not obey God will have that Spirit removed from them. Thus, they lose the Spirit and lose God's favor and expression of undeserved kindness or grace. That leads to destruction.

    Galatians 6:7, 8 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Nehemiah 8
    Brother Dan, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk OLD WINE straightway desireth NEW (wine): for he saith, THE OLD IS BETTER.

    John 2:1 And THE THIRD DAY (represents Christ resurrection) there was a MARRIAGE IN CANA OF GALILEE.....(represents New Jerusalem)

    John 2:2 And BOTH Jesus was called, and his disciples, TO THE MARRIAGE.

    John 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, THEY HAVE NO WINE.

    John 2:9 .... and the governor (God the Spirit) of the feast called (CHRIST) the bridegroom,

    John 2:10 And saith unto him....but thou has kept the good wine until NOW.

    The old (wine: laws written in tablets of natural stone) were replaced by new (wine) laws written in the heart.

    Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    Matthew 22:38 This is the first and GREATEST COMMANDMENT.

    Matthew 22:39 And the SECOND is like unto it, thou shall LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.

    Matthew 22:40 ON these TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG all the law and prophets.

    Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart will I GIVE you, and a new spirit will I put in you....

    Ezekie 36:27 ....and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes....
  • Michael - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Hello S Spencer.

    Thank you for your insightful comments. I enjoyed reading them. Quite accurate.

    Many who quote Matthew 5:17-19 fail to notice an important point, namely, Jesus said, "till all be fulfilled".

    Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

    The Mosaic Law was fulfilled in Jesus Christ once he died and was resurrected. His death put to death the Mosaic Law as recorded at:

    Colossians 2:14-16: "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days."

    Romans 7:6 "But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter."

    Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

    Many who quote Matthew 5:17-19 often do not notice what Jesus said in the parallel account at:

    Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it."

    There, Jesus said further that the law, that is, the Mosaic Law, was UNTIL John. After John, it would be the New Covenant that was inaugurated by Jesus' shed blood. (See Luke 22:20.)

    Thus, 1 John 5:2, 3 and all other verses in the New Testament (Romans to Revelation), referring to God's commandments, does not refer to the 10 commandments nor the Mosaic Law commandments but only to the laws of the New Covenant (Romans to Revelation). In that New Testament Law, no instruction is ever made to keep the Sabbath Day or to circumcise all males, etc.

    I share these thoughts with you and hope you enjoy them.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on Matthew 24:3
    Adam.

    I'm sorry but I left out "not" in this sentence towards the end.

    All the Glory to God, We obey from the heart the Laws of God, NOT by command.

    Talk to you later my friend, I'm struggling with this multitasking.

    God bless.
  • Diane - in Reply on Romans 1:29
    Amen Come Lord Jesus!!! He can't come soon enough!! There is too much evil in this world today. The truth is scary...only the Lord can fix this...no man should be called on to correct the problems we face today ... for they know what their plans are! He is waiting for YOU to call on HIM! He is our only hope.


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