Bible Discussion PAGE 267

  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Ann,

    Perhaps this is what you are looking for.

    Hebrews 9:27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: ?

    God bless
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Brother like you I've shared with people its impossible to manifest fruit of the Spirit if your not walking by spirit. By the way nice sharing.
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Free I understand and respect your input, that being said why would the apostle Paul say in 1 Corinthians 14:8 to the entire Corinthian church that he thanked God he spoke in tongues more than ye all and why would God take the Time in His Word to the Church from Chapter 12 to the end of 14 what to do and not to do but that things are done decent and in order. Keep something in mind this guy was given direct orders by Jesus Christ to preach and instruct the Church Jews and Gentiles. I am not saying I have always witnessed these things being done correct far from. Example I went to an assembly invited by a friend and the preacher walked up to the pulpit picked up a phone and literally told the congregation he was getting His Message from God on what to say. My friend said what do you think I said not buying it God doesn't need a phone to talk to anybody. So again peacefully I say God Bless and I'm done with this.
  • Sacha - in Reply
    I'm with you Kenneth , maybe you have some English blood in you , we are mostly very private people , in person I am painfully shy and reserved , the only reason I can talk so freely on here is because if the anonymity , in my congregation women have their heads covered and their mouths closed , we have a weekly Bible class and for many decades women were not permitted to speak a word during it , we got a new presiding brother who decide to allow women to speak at our Bible class so I stopped going . The reason is because , on more than one occasion I have heard brethren say things that I believe we're wrong , in the past when this happened I couldn't say anything about it and this was very frustrating to me , however when we were aloud to speak I realised I just couldn't do it , even if a brother says something I think is wrong there is no way I'm going to embarrass him or myself by correcting him in front of our entire congregation , then I realised that one day I might do just that and that would be terrible for everyone . So I stopped going , basically because I don't trust myself and would never forgive myself for offending any of my congregation with my big stupid mouth . We don't have any one that speaks in tongues or shouts out during our services , we English are reserved to say the least and English Christians are the most reserved .
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Adam P.S. I absolutely respect where your coming from and that being said i will say peace and God Bless.
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Adam Just to make one point the apostle paul made the statement I Corinthians 14:18, I will not deny how many times I've watched the confusion with this area of christianity, but when things are done in proper order it does Glorify God. That is all that's on my heart to say. God Bless. There's a great statement I learned a long time ago experience is no guarantee when it comes to truth especially when it comes to spiritual matters and I realise that statement can go both ways.
  • S Spencer
    J Vernon Mcgee.

    Part 3.

    "When I lived on the east coast in my younger years, there was a beautiful big maple tree in our backyard that would keep its leaves through the winter. The leaves were dead, but they still hung on to the branches. In the spring when the sap flowed, the new buds would finally push off the dead leaves. That's what happens when the Spirit of God grows His life in us-He pushes the old habits out of our lives as our new life in Christ grows stronger. Rather than try to pick off all the dead leaves and try to grow new leaves ourselves, we need to focus instead on cultivating our relationship with God and let the Holy Spirit deal with all the dead leaves." -J. Vernon McGee.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer
    J Vernon Mcgee.

    Part 2 of 3.

    Paul was speaking to believers when he said:

    Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. - Galatians 6:7-9

    I personally believe that's a law of God, just like the law of gravity. If a farmer sows corn, you can be sure that he'll reap corn. If he sows wheat, he'll reap wheat. My friend, as a believer, if you are sowing to the flesh, you "will of the flesh reap corruption." There is no way around it.

    Now, the child of God does not have to produce these things. We can produce the fruit of the Spirit. God has another principle:

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. - Galatians 5:22, 23

    You can't produce these fruit by following the Law; in fact, there is not one of these lovely fruits that you can produce on your own. We are totally incapable; it can only be produced by the Holy Spirit."For the fruit of the Spirit,"Paul says in Ephesians 5:9,"is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth."You can know whether you are living by the flesh or living in the power, in the fullness, of the Holy Spirit by seeing if He is producing these fruits in your life.

    Part 3 coming.
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Gloria The Bible was written by men inspired by His Spirit so knowing what the rule book says about where to have our thought patterns has got a great deal with listening and not being distracted. That being said things to look at Mathew 6:19-34 and the take no thought is anxious thought, no fear of needs being met. Another Phillippians 4;6-9. Some other principles. He knows you personally, He will never have you do something against His Word. Also it will always Glorify God and the recipient and build the Body if Christ. It will never make you afraid and it will never be out of order because God is the author of all order. He won't make you do something that he knows you can't do. I'm sure there wull be more added. God Bless give em Heaven.
  • S Spencer
    From Dr. J. Vernon McGee:

    Part 1.

    Jesus said,"Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing."- John 15:4, 5

    If you were not raised in the country, you may not know that in every fruit orchard, there is always something else that tries to overcome the fruit. In nature, slugs and bugs and stinkweeds all attempt to crowd out the fruit. And in the life of the believer, there are always things that will attempt to crowd out the fruit of the Spirit. In other words, it's quite possible that the weeds grow and the fruit will not be produced. Paul spoke of that very thing in Galatians 5:17-

    For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.

    The flesh wants to have its way and is actually in competition against the Holy Spirit. So there is a danger of producing something besides fruit. And that which the flesh produces is not something that God can use; it's not fruit at all.

    Paul himself experienced that struggle and described it in Romans 7:15:

    For what I am doing[the new man wanted to produce fruit], I do not understand[the old nature would not do it].

    You can be a child of God and be producing works of the flesh in your life, and if you are, you are not living by the Spirit of God. And I can tell you, if the works of the flesh are appearing in your life, you are a discontented and troublemaking child of God.
  • Ann brewster
    What book will I find as death finds you so shall the judgement
  • Adam - in Reply
    When I read and consider what the Bible says about it in 1 Corinthians 12:10 and 1 Cor 14:19, 1 Cor 14:5, I believe what Paul said. He already said it's not as important as prophesy, that not everyone has such a spiritual gift and that's ok, that it's only helpful if there's an interpreter, and that it's better to speak 5 intelligible words than ten thousand in a tongue.

    I don't have the gift of tongues and if I attempted to do it, it would not be genuine. I have been in the presence of others who have done this and I knew them and unfortunately I felt they felt peer pressured into doing it and wasn't genuine. It was just gibberish and I thought it did more harm than good. Plus, there was no interpreter, so it was not done in according to scripture. No one understood it and it sounded fake. Based on what Paul wrote, I believe him and interpret this as a low priority that I shouldn't worry about. I also won't cast judgment on anyone else doing this who believes they are genuine. But in the cases I've seen this used it did not edify the church. God bless.
  • S Spencer - in Reply
    Hi Gloria.

    In my opinion that sometimes can be tough. But we know it's going to line up with God's word. And this inward urge you may get want violate God's nature or his Commandments. And it should be spirit fed, "Fruit of the spirit "

    Not much I can add, Hopefully others can help.

    God bless.
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Free P.S. I have personally eyewitnessed everything your talking about, that doesn't mean that everybody else who does it decent and in order are wrong. I am again ending this discussion prayerfully peacefully.
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Free I understand God Bless.
  • Derek - in Reply
    That's what I mean by false information and you just posted it assuming it's true. The inaccurate covid PCR test is gives a high % of false positives. The millions who used to get flu are still getting flu but mislabeled as covid, which is why the stats show little to no flu, despite millions getting it all other years. 3 million die per year in the US proportionate to this growing population with open borders with sick and unhealthy illegals pouring in for free healthcare and money that hardworking people like us don't get. So, the millions of deaths are normal, are they not? 612k additional people didn't die, but some additional % have died from new causes of death from the oppression of lockdowns and masks: including pneumonia from wearing masks, heart disease and suicide from stress.

    When you reward health providers with money for calling everything covid, of course they're going to label everything covid. Plus, the real info is in fine print on the CDC's own website that the deaths are all 'comorbidities' except for a tiny % fraction of that being just covid. This massive misinformation campaign fueled by media and political greed for power and control has indeed lead to deaths and blood on their hands, but not the kind of deaths being presented. This sure seems like some kind of antichrist is behind this great deceit. For those who drink the koolaid- enjoy the science behind being triple vaccinated and still wearing triple masks and being scared over a virus that's so bad that most don't even know they have it and at least 99.99% people survive it.
  • Fred - in Reply
    The church has much more too teach about than any of the creeds. Lost in a illusion of what they think is right, instead of what Jesus Said! How conflicted I am when Jesus children are once again mislead by another one of mans idea! Even before those who argued between one another leading us where we are today! Calvin, Martin Luther, even the catholic, still today writing books that lead to more questions. The phds, the docs, even today still missing the mark. Who is the savior of the world! This king, the holy one, this the son of God.
  • Gloria
    how do you know when god is speaking to you about anything
  • John landrum
    When will Elijah return
  • Fred - in Reply
    You ,like all of us want answers in a world spiraling out of control! Are these the beginning of sorrows ,the bible speaks of? Satan is at work like never before. Knowing the times, along with the uncertainty mixed with deception that we see are more evident everyday. The evil one wants more than ever to kill and destroy, death and hell are what He thrives on! who, what ,how or why, only God knows. He warns us not to be deceived, but in all our ways we are to acknowledge Him. If you understand these things happy are ye!

    Every believer, abiding in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, is a saint! Scripture says we are saints! God is in Control! Judge not according to the flesh, but judge righteous judgment! I am resting in the promises of God. Pilate looked into Jesus eyes and asked him what is truth? Immediately after ,He turned and told the world I find no fault in this man ,no none at all. If you are looking into the eyes of Christ, you will also know the truth.
  • Chris - in Reply
    We won't find the Apostles' Creed in the Bible. It was believed that the Apostles provided the words & this Creed was then put together, but there is no evidence of this happening & is only a legend. The Creed was formulated in the 4th Century AD.
  • Dianne
    Jesus christ lived in the category of the Spirit and miraculous and made it available for us to do the same John 14: 12+13. Now are we the Sons of God, no more condemnation , we have been made righteous, we can heal and be healed, we can deliver others from the darkness of this world, we are more than conquerors through Him who gave himself for use, in ending For I am persuaded that neither death nor life nor angels nor principalities nor power nor things present nor things to come nor height nor depth nor any other creature shall absolute tense separate us from the love of God whis in Christ Jesus our Lord. Starting the day with this beats wheaties the breakfast of champions.
  • Chris - in Reply on Tobit 1
    Hello Gilberto. I think of Jesus' Words to His troubled enquiring disciples in John 14:27, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."

    This was Jesus' Promise to them & to all who would believe on Him, that His Peace would be their joyful portion, as only His Spirit could give them. With that Peace, comes a certain Rest: a Rest in the knowledge of the veracity of His Word, the full salvation by the Cross, & a life of inner peace in an uncertain & troublesome world. And this Rest that Christ gives His people has been secured & paid for by Jesus Himself; it comes to us at no cost, nor could we ever be able to purchase it by our efforts. The Jews of Jesus' day, & even now, come to God on their own merits & works, believing that God would accept them for their obedience to the Laws & observance of all the regulations & feasts. But their desire for Peace in this life & into eternity is not founded in Jesus, God's Son, the Prince of Peace, which means they would never have it.

    And yet, even though Jesus paid the price for our salvation & the peace & rest that we're assured of, we are warned in Hebrews 4:11, "Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." Even though this passage speaks of that future rest for believers when all our labours & trials are over & we finally get to be with our Lord, it is clear that we can enjoy that rest & peace now which Jesus gives by virtue of His Spirit. The Jews miss out on it because of unbelief - we can enjoy it now & into the future only through faith in Jesus' Work on the Cross - and of course, without any cost to us, except to remain faithful to Him, loving Him & looking for His Coming. And all who have been touched & indwelt by His Spirit will continue to endure this life to its end, finding complete rest only in Jesus.
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Kenneth There is really no reason for the anger displayed here it was just a question, so in keeping peace in the body I'm not discussing the subject area anymore. God Bless
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Jesse Thanks for your input and heart God Bless.
  • Dianne - in Reply
    Jesse In reply to what you said this is a commentary and it was only an open ended question, that being said does not change my agapeo for the brethren, and it certainly wasn't meant to be any kind of mind game. God Bless
  • Debbie - in Reply on Hebrews 13
    Thank you Sacha. Yes I understood what you are saying. And that makes perfect sense. God Bless
  • Michael on Numbers 23:19
    If you have questions about the unicorn, the latin vulgate version the term is "rinocercos" coming from the hebrew "ra'am". A male rhino is called a bull. Things that were common knowledge 400 years ago are not today. Does anyone here know how to thresh wheat? language evolves and Satan uses that to obscure truth. If you had never seen a rhino before whay would you describe it as? And yes the african rhnio has two horns but the indian rhino had one. It was hunted to extinction like the dodo bird. If Satan can raise a little doubt by changing the meaning of a single word how many people you think have dismissed the bible as supernatural folklore because of word play and lack of understanding? Like the game telephone. You have to have a sharp memory and study to pass down oral tradition or write it down.
  • Mountain Preacher on Judges 2
    Whenever the scriptures reference The Angel of the Lord it is Jesus Christ ! This is not a random angel but rather the preincarnate Christ.
  • Cristina Scheeler - in Reply on Daniel 12
    A good website to go to would be, Bible study tools. Although, they have different versions, (please be careful, only stand on KJV) they have a whole list of different commentaries


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