Bible Discussion PAGE 26

  • Jason - in Reply on Ephesians 4:1
    a vocation is your work
  • Linda on Matthew 26
    Is the Antichrist resurrected.
  • Vincent - in Reply on 1 Peter 4:12
    Judy May, we don't know exactly what ministry you are referring to. Can you specify?

    As for the rest of these comments, I will take each of D.J.'s answers in stride as I can see this person is upset and making this comment thread a spectacle. Though I do believe my first comment should suffice, (especially if the references were checked) perhaps some of the words I used need to be defined for a better understanding. Reading Paul's letters to Timothy, Titus, the Corinthians, and Ephesians; Peter's epistle, and Proverbs and you will get a good idea of the New Testament church's views on female leadership.

    D.J. do you know what God has in store for Judy May? No, as she has yet to give any information concerning the specific ministry. Hence the reason why I am offering the basic information to make a decision. Ministry= service or aid. Is not specific to one particular "job."

    Am I confident in the understanding God has given of the word? Yes. Am I judging Judy May? No. Jude= distinguish truth from falsehood.

    Nothing I said was a judgment, as you can clearly see.



    Deborah, who was set in her office (Judge) because "all the men did what was right in their own eyes" was put in that position because no other man in the land was capable. Furthermore, Jews and Christians are dealt with differently. This concept, for lack of space, can be summed up with, God's methods of dealing with His people change in the dispensations. More on that another time.

    Today prophesy= to speak. Yes one who prophesies can teach. As said before the Bible has restrictions on whom a woman may have dominion over when teaching: doctrine, 1 Tim. 2:12; authority in church, Titus 1:5-9; 1 Tim 3:1-7. It is a shame for woman to be a PREACHER in church, 1 Cor 14:35. A "prophet[ess]" (seer) is an OT/Jewish concept.

    Your cherry picked verses:

    Acts 2:17, end time prophecy. Acts 21:8-9, good for them. Luke 2:36, read the verse and above sentence. 1 Cor 11:5 read the epistles and you'll understand.
  • Alex on Matthew 26
    lComments by Alex about water baptism I behold water baptism it was of God,But without the shedding of blood there was no remission of sins even in the O.T. without the shedding of blood there was no remission. John says i have need to be baptised of you which was H.G. baptism. Jesus told his disciples John washed you with water but i will baptise you with the H.G. AND FIRE, a heavenly washing of the heart. That new heart and new spirit. Thats y John was preaching behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world which was indicative of the blood.The cross was indicative of the blood of GODS LAMB. Nothin can be added to it Absolutly nothing. Not even water baptism, without making the blood of the lamb an offence to God. It was the ultimate washing ( holy ghost baptism ) Thats y God rebuked Peter saying what i have made clean do not call common or unclean, peter was impling the blood was insufficient a slap in the face of God when he was commanding water baptism. Thats y the lord was so upset with Peter all the UNCLEAN ANIMALS in the sheet was the church, Humanity that was made clean by the blood of the lamb not water baptism that peter was commanding,God was upset with Peter commanding water baptism after out lord had died to make us clean,As Paul said water baptism wd make the blood of no effect,Its like saying the cross was insufficient a slap in the face of God. After Peter understood the vision he says then remembered i the words of our LORD John baptised you with water but i will baptise you with the H.G AND FIRE, Who was i to withstand God. Paul knew that water baptism wd make the blood of the Lamb of no effect. Thats y he said i thank God that i baptised none of you,Paul feared of making the blood of the lamb of no effect. Peter didn't realize the enormity of the CROSS THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.All the unclean animals in that sheet was humanity th world that was made Clean by the blood not water gbu.
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    There is indeed movement to disregard Christ, leaving Him outside of the deity. Teaching a faith in a spirit that we create . A spirit created through our own works, a psychologically self willed goodness. Instead of reaching into the souls of mankind,they reach deep within mans pockets instead, only once again to sell another book! The Lord of course, prefers us to worship Him , and not concentrate on those things that do not bring Him glory, the same glory that is found in the love of Christ!The love that surpasses all understanding and can only be found in Him ,the Savior of the world. When we learn to love one another ,we only begin to touch the surface of the power of the Holy Ghost. We then, would become more concerned for the welfare of others ,instead of ourselves,"that doctrine of self , they preach. You need to feel good about yourself? You need to rise above!" If you need to live according to the law, here is a good one! The first commandment. "Thou shalt love the Lord with all your soul ,all your heart, everything that is in you". Remember, that when you fail to do this one thing, We have an advocate , that continues to bind us with God the Father,found in the shed blood of Christ!
  • Richard - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Hello Chris. I very much enjoy reading yours posts and agree. Jesus Christ truly is the only way. I was just conversing with a man the other night on this matter. As he seemed content we need to follow not just the Ten Commandments but all of the 613 Jewish laws. I posted, as brother Dan did, Matthew 22:36-40. Brother Dan you have Matthew 23 but you quoted the passages, from 22, perfectly. Just to note. As Jesus stated "On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Which I believe are the most important things we should be focusing on which is Love. Of God, Christ, and one another. I also posted this passage: Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." This being written by Paul that of the fruit from the Holy Spirit, we receive, and flourish in, against such there is no law.

    I also stated knowing the Ten Commandments by heart. It seems, after being saved by the Lord, that all these things are no longer a burden at all to follow. It seems to comes naturally from a power not of my own. All of the 613 Jewish laws? Now there is a problem. As it says people should be stoned to death and burned at the stake. Along with many other things I know the Lord does not condone.

    Hopefully, my brothers, we can all just help one another through these peaceful conversations. We all need Jesus Christ as no one cometh unto the Father but by Him. John 14:6. God Bless
  • Onyekachukwu Ogechi Levinus Alaka on Psalms 34:17
    The righteous cry. Like Israel in Egypt, they cry out under the heavy yoke of oppression, both of sin, temptation, care, and grief. And the Lord heareth; he is like the night watchman, who no sooner hears the alarm bell than he flies to relieve those who need him. And delivereth them out of all their troubles. No net of trouble can so hold us that the Lord cannot free us. Our afflictions may be numerous and complicated, but prayer can set us free from them all, for the Lord will show himself strong on our behalf.
  • Mikell bond on Proverbs 29:23
    i think the idea that you have to accept jesus to enter heaven is blasphemy. WHen these type of believers read the Bible, they have to skip multiple paragraphs talking about how Jesus saves you without works. Accepting Jesus is a work. In Ephesians, they have to skip many verses talking about predestination. So now, they have cherry picked Bible versions that are fake, just made for their type of belief. That is why the KJV is the superior verson
  • Brother dan - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Brother Chris,

    You are stating that Jesus did not speak about the cancelation of the Law because of his upcoming death and resurrection.

    Yes he did speak about the Law, and Jesus knew that he was going to die for our sins and complete the plan and work of God, but he did not cancel the Law. On the contrary, he reinforced the law as stated by Christ below.

    Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

    Jesus says "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." To me, this is the key that Jesus wants us to live according to God's law 10 Commandments. Until heaven and earth pass......this has not happened Yet, and until it happens the Law remains.....as stated by Jesus.

    I believe that the Law/Ten Commandments provides us with the roadmap to live a good life here on earth, while also preparing us for God's great plan for us in the second life which will be for eternity.

    Christ died on the cross for the worlds sins. His death provides the ransom for our sins. He became the new and only mediator between God and each of us. This is the "Good News".

    When we live according to God's plan for us and we fall short/sin, (as each of us will) we now have Jesus Christ to confide in, and through Jesus Christ we can now receive forgiveness of our sins from God.

    Good Bless.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Matthew 24:9
    To JOEL OSTEEN

    The following is a List of other deceivers who take from the people and fly their own jets.

    1. Kenneth Copeland: Gulfstream V

    2. Jesse Duplantis: Dassault Falcon 7X

    3. Jerry Savelle: Cessna 500

    4. Joyce Meyer: Gulfstream IV

    5. Creflo A. Dollar: Gulfstream III

    6. Joel Osteen: Airbus A319

    7. Paul and Jan Crouch: Bombardier BD-700-1A10

    8. Paul and Jan Crouch: Hawker 800XP

    9. Pat Robertson: Learjet 35

    10. Mark Barclay: Cessna Citation III

    Also, please read about the 'strong man'in Luke 11:21.

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Alex on 1 John 3:9
    Comments by Alex about Jesus saying he came to fulfill the law.Sin is the trangression of the law. But b/c of his death we will be bornagain of an incorriptible seed, even by the word of God,When a seed dies it multiplies thus b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven. Everybody is gonna get a seed, everybody is gona get a measure of faith. Resulting in Birth and them that ARE BORN OF GOD CANNOT SIN, THATS HOW HE WILL FULFILL THE LAW BY HIS SEED THAT IS GONNA REMAIN IN US BRINGING FORTH FRUIT UNTO GOD which is Christ in us, His seed is gona result in a birth of Christ in US, making it impossible to sin thus fulfilling the LAW.Sin is the trangression of the law, But if we cannot sin then the law is fulfilled. Thats what he is talking bout when he said he came to fulfill the Law. Its simply about Christ in us making it impossible to sin from our hearts.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Matthew 27:63
    To JOEL OSTEEN

    Correction

    We have had no distribution for the book 'A World Deceived' since 2008, not 2018 as reported earlier. Perhaps, one of your book distributors would be interested? We would sell them for $3.00 each (plus shipping), which would cover our original cost. If they can't afford it, we will ship them for free. Please let us know.

    We also understand you fly around in an expensive private jet, paid for by the people you deceive, including the poor!

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Florence on Matthew 6:29
    What are the three themes in Matthew Chapter 6 ?
  • Andy G van den Berg on Exodus 14:14
    To JOEL OSTEEN

    So, you want us to stop posting our message of Repentance, which is according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (John 14:17). The emphasis on the word 'cannot'. Legion also wanted to be left alone (Mark 5:9; Luke 8:30). In summary our message remains the same: Ye must repent.

    The Baptism of Repentance is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived (Revelation 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (Matthew 7:7; John 14:17). The emphasis again on the word 'cannot'.

    You need not that any man teach you (Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Revelation 12:9).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 3:3,5; Revelation 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world (1 John 5:4; Revelation 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived (Revelation 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it (Matthew 7:14).

    Luke 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Galatians 3:16
    To JOEL OSTEEN,

    Please read Matthew 5:10-12.

    We invested 20K in self-publishing the book 'A World Deceived' in 2005, and invested our personal money into the website for 15 years, including the website administrator. The first two distributors of the book went bankrupt and there has been no distribution since 2018. We have no Tax-Free status with Revenue Canada.

    It should be noted that in over 36 years of service we have never collected/received, solicited or requested donations. The gift of 'Life' was freely given and freely do we give to all those that believe (2 Kings 5:16; Matthew 6:26; 10:8).

    We don't take money from the people, including the poor, and live in a ten million dollar estate. We live in modest apartment and drive a 2012 vehicle.

    It is not nice to falsely accuse people, whom you don't know, including their message of Repentance, which you are unable to understand since you are separated from the true and living God (1 Corinthians 2:14), as you take pleasure in following after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Revelation 12:9).

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7),

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Andy G van den Berg on Galatians 3:16
    To J.O.

    The Word of God is God (John 1:1) and not for any private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20). If it records in Revelation 12:9 that this whole world has been deceived, it did not speak of a particular country, group of people, person or religion, it meant the whole world.

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom (2 Corinthians 11:13-15) this whole world has been deceived and what mankind must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

    The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting), is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and there seems to be a great misconception what the true 'spiritual' meaning of the word is. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

    Only through Repentance will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters (Romans 8:15,23; 2 Corinthians 6:18; Galatians 4:5; Ephesians 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1) and reveal to you how this whole world has been deceived (Revelation 12:9) and overcome this world (1 John 5:4).

    The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 3:3,5; Revelation 1:1). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it (Matthew 7:14).
  • William wang on James 2:12
    "So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty." James 212

    How to understand " the law of liberty."
  • Chris - in Reply on Daniel 1
    Well...yes we should accept them since we have applied for the grant or entered the competition to gain the prize. If there is any doubt or fear about this matter, one would just turn away from such offerings or provisions.
  • Pat - in Reply on Luke 22:18
    Revelations clearly states those who call themselves Jews are not why is this overlooked.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Give her a little packet of index cards so she can write the information down and pass it to whom she's speaking to. Mention that identity thieves are everywhere.
  • A friend who cares on Proverbs 26
    Let us pray

    Lord Jesus Christ we ask that you help everyone who is suicidal.

    Guide them so they may receive the help that they need.

    Protect them.

    Prevent them from dying by suicide.

    We need them. We love them.

    Let them feel our love, and your love, Lord Jesus.

    Lord, we ask that you comfort the suicide survivors.

    Remind them that they are very special people.

    Remind them that they are loved.

    Fill their minds with beautiful memories of their angels.

    Provide them with everything that they need Lord.

    Ease their pain.

    Give them hope.

    Give them comfort.

    Give them guidance.

    Help them heal.

    And help them in every way possible.

    Let them feel our love, and your love, Lord Jesus.

    And let their angels carry them on their wings when they are weary.

    Lord, we pray for the angels to minister life to the heirs of salvation.

    They are with you now, Lord, in Paradise.

    These angels are among the highest angels in Heaven.

    Their wings are magnificent and their beauty is beyond imagination.

    Their love shines bright.

    Embrace this child, Lord Jesus, with your love.

    And let their love continue to shine down upon us.

    We ask this in Jesus Name, Amen.

    More info on this prayer site:

    Suicide dot org
  • The Goodman of the House - in Reply on Matthew 26
    Mark 14:

    12
    And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

    13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.

    14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

    15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.

    This wasn't a prophesy. It's a word of knowledge; like when he spoke to the woman at the well.

    Mishael
  • Prophesies DO NOT Lie - in Reply on Matthew 26
    I believe Jesus because of what he said in Matthew 3:15-17. "That all righteousness must be fulfilled."

    Even John the Baptist was born to fulfill prophesy. A voice crying in the wilderness.

    It was even a prophesy as to where the donkey and colt was that He would ride into Jerusalem on.

    I have this great chart of all the prophesies that would be fulfilled in Jesus ministry, right up to the Cross.

    The one thing that made Him stay awake all evening when He was going to be betrayed and arrested, was when he would be separated from His Father while on the Cross: taking upon himself the sins of all the world, for all time.

    All you can say, truly He is the Son of God.

    All things were provided, so I know a basket of bread and some bottles of wine were a small detail. Let's search for Bread. Maybe it's on that list, I hope. Or in Isaiah? Joseph of Aramatheia (who provided the tomb) ?

    The odds of all the prophesies being fulfilled have to be more than all the stars in our galaxy. How really can anyone doubt He is who he said He is.

    I know it's natural to want to prove everything; but I believe what Jesus said: unless we become as this little child...in our faith; we cannot please God.

    When we are caught up in the clouds to Jesus, the election will return the Jews again. Romans 11: 25-27

    Scales will fall from eyes; ears will open!

    The Dispersed Jews are returning by plane loads, every day. The Land is blooming, producing. Someone said there are wheat fields in Israel; water, oil. The Jews love for their land abounds. But they must turn their LOVE on the Lord, Messiah; who loves them again.

    Don't doubt. Keep your full expectation on God to fulfill every thing that has been written and recorded. Ignore the NAYSAYERS. Jesus is impressed with our faith in Him. Preach that. Like John the Baptist.

    Mishael
  • FloraPhillips on Acts 10:38
    This is amazing that God filled Jesus with the Holy Spirit, with power...This is so powerful to me!!
  • Chris - in Reply on Zechariah 5
    Reuben, the matter of one contemplating suicide is a very serious yet sensitive issue. I don't think that anyone who is found in that awful state of mind would be considering it lightly. And to add, no one could ever stand in judgement of that person as that alone is God's domain.

    I had a friend that went that route as his suffering as a Multiple Sclerosis patient for ten years became far too much to bear. He saw only his pain, no remedy forthcoming & therefore no hope for living. He died rejecting God & His Gospel, preferring to end his pain & disappear into the earth, as he believed. He died rejecting & cursing God so his final state seemed quite evident, but for those who have God's Love in their hearts, yet are found in this very sad situation, everything must be done to help & comfort that one from taking a path that compromises his position before the Lord. Our governments also provide a Help Line & counsel as well, so that such a tragedy doesn't occur.

    The bottom line is that suicide is self-murder - it is one's personal decision to end life, a determination & prerogative only reserved to the Lord God Who gives life & has the right to take it. I don't believe that suicide can ever be approved by God but as said earlier, we are not in God's position to judge or condemn. If you know of someone in that position, please take speedy action to direct him/her for counsel & help, whether a Church Pastor, doctor or a government agency.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Page 2.

    So in Luke 16:17 & Matthew 5:17, Jesus was making it clear that the Law could never fail - what God had given stands true & firm in its purity & application for every life for every age. And indeed, Jesus' coming was to fulfil that Law (& the prophecies about Him). I see no problem here as all that He said did happen. Then back to my question: why then did Jesus have to die? Could not that Perfect Law have saved us, with maybe a touch of extra grace from God to carry us over the line? After all, we do love God with all our hearts & want to observe all that He has directed us to do; we just need a little more of His understanding & resulting pardon to give us the needed assurance & comfort. But if we have His pardon based only on His Son's death, what then could that Law given do for us? Could it have given us "Life"? No, it only brought condemnation & death. "Is the Law then against the Promises of God"? No, "for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law." Galatians 3:21.

    As believers, saved by grace through faith, we can never resort to the Law, whether for some merit or to add to the saving work of Christ on the Cross. Jesus' death & resurrection cancelled out any claims or adherence to the Law, for "the Law is not of faith". Galatians 3:12. Yes, the Law is good & perfect, but "the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did". And that hope was only Jesus Who was "made a surety of a better testament."
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Page 1.

    Bro. Dan. I understand what you're saying & it is true that Jesus did not speak about the cancellation of the given Law because of His (future) death & resurrection. The Law given then, as it is now, "is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." Romans 7:12.

    The problem with properly arguing such an important matter is that all Scripture has to be considered in its proper manner & not a dependence on just a few portions. Had the matter ended with Jesus' Words in the Gospels, then we would indeed be content with that & both Jew & Gentile converts would maintain strict observance of the Law & somehow after Christ's death, still rigidly attend to both it & Christ's Sacrifice as equally necessary to be acceptable to God. Is this how you understand the Scripture? Do you make any differentiation between the purpose of the Law & the need of God's Grace through His Son? If we had only the O.T. & the Gospels to show us how to live properly under the Law, then that is how we would be judged; and by all accounts, we would fail.

    Since you quote solely from the Gospels to present your position, considering them is necessary. As stated earlier, Jesus did not speak about the annulling of the Law in the future but He did direct his hearers to what was correct & appropriate for that time. The Jews, still under the Law, were not obeying it as God purposed; Jesus had to give them the proper meaning, viz, the condition of the heart, relationship to non-Jews, money, divorce, Sabbath, justice, etc. etc. Jesus only spoke clearly to His disciples of his eventual sacrificial death, that which they hardly believed & accepted (Matthew 16:20-22), how much less trying to get them to understand the matter we are discussing now (of the New Covenant resulting from His Sacrifice); though He did refer to it in the Upper Room (Luke 22:20).
  • Niki on Revelation 12
    Study to be quiet and mind our own business. A mother and 8 year old boy in a public place and the mother is publicly anouncing personal info on child to the reception, if I find it inappropriate do I tell her that in hopes to help the child or do I mind my own business and pray to have opportunity to preach the gospel to her.
  • Frances on Daniel 1
    Should we accept grants and prize money from people we don't know?
  • Reuben - in Reply on Zechariah 5
    If a person ch commits suicide is he ch ondemed to tell? When is suicide approved by God ?.


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