Bible Discussion PAGE 252

  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 7:9
    The Old Testament doesn't provide any clear reference to a star to be seen over Bethlehem. These 'wise men' or magi from Eastern lands were observers of the starry kingdom, & even though they may have used their art for dubious purposes, there was suddenly an observance that appeared to them that was out of sync with the placement of the heavenly bodies at that time of the year. And it was not only different in that way but also of increased intensity (maybe similar to the recent alignment of two planets) which prompted their travel into that direction.

    Now, they would have to travel a great distance, even if it was on animals, so it's possible that at the first appearance of this special star they commenced their move. And in the providence of God, their arrival at baby Jesus' crib, an animal's feeding trough, coincided with His birth. But the question: how did these magi even know that this babe was to become "the King of the Jews"? We're not told this: it could have been a prophecy (as in Micah 5:2) that reached them, or some other belief in that part of the world expecting a ruler-ship to happen in Israel. But they immediately responded to that heavenly phenomenon.

    Just my thoughts to guide you, but can't be verified from the Scriptures.
  • Chris - in Reply on John 3
    In John chapter 3, we have the account of Nicodemus, a Pharisee, a religious leader who adhered strictly to the Law but lacked spiritual understanding to what God was truly seeking in him & us. When he approached Jesus at night, Jesus perceived that his lovely statement about Him ("Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him."), was veiled with the inference that 'I too am a devoted teacher of God's Word & obedient to every command of God'. Jesus, seeing right into his heart as Jesus usually did with people, came out with, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

    At this comment, Nicodemus must have thought ('marvelled'): "this is something new I've never heard of before". Or more likely, he believed that he had one up on Jesus, that He speaks with forked tongue when saying that a re-birth (or, a second chance) must be given to a person to come out for another try to be righteous enough to enter God's Kingdom. So Jesus went on to explain that was not the meaning, but that just as in a physical birth (by water), so there must be a spiritual birth (a rebirth by God's Spirit) to enter God's Presence. In the flesh, we are sinners destined for punishment, as those devoid of God & spurning His Love for us. But when we repent from our sins & turn to God by faith in Jesus' Work at Calvary, then a spiritual re-birth takes place, whereby our human spirit is renewed & refreshed by God's Spirit.

    Of course, the story in John 3 was pre-Cross, but the Truth was laid out before Nicodemus, & we can only wonder how those words he heard from Jesus would have affected his heart at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. We know that in John 19:39, Nicodemus voluntarily spent much money to purchase the necessary embalming ingredients for Jesus' Body, which might indicate something of a spiritual work in him earlier on & culminating at the Cross.
  • Savannah on Numbers 23
    This website is good when you just want to look up the bible online. It is super easy, and god bless everyone!!
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
    I certainly have no skill or knowledge to respond to such scientific experiments or goals. All I know is that man has never been able to, nor ever can, create something out of nothing. He may be able to replicate to some extent, but not create. As much as he has advanced in the scientific & medical spheres, a created being can never assume the creative powers & unsearchable wisdom of God. He might be able to build a robot to accomplish a myriad of tasks, but if he cannot tell where man came from & how things have come together, it can & should leave him humbled because of the minuscule amount of knowledge & skill that he actually does possess. Job chapter 38. He could, in His ignorance & self-worth, compare himself to the Almighty God, even as one who believes he has the power to control his present & future, but he is brought to total insignificance when he can't even stop the effects of sin on his life which ultimately leads to his death & eternal destruction.
  • Simeon Agboola on Matthew 17:20
    In need of your sermon always.
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
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    h. That it appears from the Word that Christians began worshipping the Lord on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2), though attendance to meeting with others at the synagogue was still practised by Paul (Acts 9:20, 13:5, 14:1, etc.), there appears a departure from the religious side of the Sabbath to the first day of the week, maybe in remembrance of the Lord's resurrection & a separation from the Jewish Sabbath which included worship. No doubt, the Sabbath still remained a day of rest for them.

    I am personally not inclined to whether I worship on the first day, the second or even the seventh day, as the Sabbath Day significance has no application or meaning to me under the New Covenant. When I was in employment, the need for a rest day was still required & appreciated, but that's all there was to it. If Sunday as a worship day is a problem to some, then set another day aside to worship with the Lord's people. But if to keep the Sabbath becomes an unquestionable, non-negotiable requirement that can bring on the Wrath of God or disfavour to the people, then I simply cannot see that expressed in the Word or by the Spirit, & one would have to do some intricate exegesis to provide convincing proof.

    Apologies for keeping this response lengthy (though brief, in some respects), but thought to raise some thoughts for you to chew on & respond where necessary, i.e. trying to lay down some groundwork to build upon. Every blessing.
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
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    f. Jesus' time of suffering & death came, but also His glorious resurrection, that through this Divine Act of God to redeem ALL men to Himself, both Jew & Gentile would now be acceptable to Him through faith in the efficacy of the shed Blood. Was the Sabbath & the Law still current for the Jew? As long as they lived according to the requirements of the Law, they had to abide by it & were judged by it; if they failed in one part of the given Law, they had failed in all (Galatians 5:3, Romans 2:13, James 2:10). When the Jew put aside the Law as necessary for salvation, then the application of the Cross became real: that which was based on faith & promise, & not on the letter that only served to reveal him his sin & to draw him to Christ (Galatians 3:24).

    g. So why then is the keeping of the Sabbath still necessary? For the Jew without Christ, it remains a day of rest, as an act of obedience to God, & using that occasion for religious exercises. For the Jew & Gentile who is now "in Christ", the Sabbath, as all other Laws, have no binding, other than the importance of setting a Rest Day aside from our labours, & the Laws that reveal God's Mind & Purpose for both religious & social responsibility. If one, whether Jew, Gentile or Christian, chose to keep any of the Laws, including Sabbath, then they were bound to keep it & the whole Law - there's no option to pick & choose. And by keeping the Law to justify ourselves before God, even one Law, then precludes us from the Grace of God through Christ, because that is diametrically opposed to the meaning of the Law (Galatians 5:4).
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
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    c. Numbers 28:9,10. Not only a day of cessation from labour, but was also used in religious activity: in this instance, sacrifice (a special burnt offering). From this, we might learn that the day of rest also involved sacrifice & maybe a rehearsal of the laws given by God to Moses. So we can't think of it as just a day to sleep-in & be totally unproductive in mind & spirit.

    d. Various Scriptures concerning the 'do's' & 'don't do's' on the Sabbath are shown in the Word. The people could not "kindle a fire, collect Manna, trade in goods, or bear burdens". They could however, "be involved in military campaigns, weddings, feasts, offering of sacrifices, opening gates, changing guards, etc."

    e. Till the building of the first Temple (Solomon's), all religious activity was contained in the precincts of the Tabernacle. When the Temple was erected, public worship & activity took place there. After the rebuilding of the Second Temple (c. 352 BC) led by Ezra, public worship recommenced. In Jesus' day, both the Temple & the Synagogue existed: as Chabad dot org says, "The purpose of the synagogue was to provide a venue to facilitate and enhance the Biblical obligation of prayer by adding a communal element." When the Roman army destroyed this temple in 69 AD, the synagogue remained the only place to come together. So, the Jews maintained the 7th day of rest as prescribed but also used that day productively in the synagogue. And this is where we find Jesus: both at the Temple (Matthew 21:12,13) & also at the Synagogue (Matthew 4:23), teaching but also condemning the religious leaders for their hypocrisy, high status, extra stipulations for the Sabbath, & grievous burdens laid on the people (Matthew chap 23). Jesus conformed perfectly to His Father's Commandment in treating the Sabbath as holy & in doing so, revealed to the leaders their failure to understand its meaning, both in rest & correct religious observance & practise.
  • Chris - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Page 1.

    Hello Rodney. I see that this matter is much on your heart & with anything that requires serious consideration, I find that if we have the basic understanding of it, then we can confidently proceed from there. But if we have disagreement at that 'basic' level, then whatever proceeds from there, will amplify our objections & take us to further divergent thoughts & conclusions. So, with the Sabbath Day, it's only proper to understand what is given to us in the Word & what God requires of us by His Command. Therefore, I will state what I believe on that subject & you can take issue with me in point form, so that the matter might be properly addressed. And by the way, I'm here on this Site just as you & others are, to share, discuss & learn more from God's Word. May the Lord help us & give us His Wisdom.

    a. Genesis 2:2,3. On the seventh day, God rested from His Work & blessed that day & sanctified it. Was God exhausted & worn out from that demanding work of creation? The use of the word, Shabath, indicates that it was simply a cessation of work. And in the Genesis account, I'm not trying to decipher whether the days of creation were literal 24 hour days, or days denoting extended periods of time. The point was that for six 'creation' days God involved Himself in work & on the seventh He desisted from such work which doesn't imply any physical weariness.

    b. Exodus 20:8-11. The first direct instruction given to the children of Israel concerning this day of rest, Shabath. The keeping of this day holy (set apart) as with the rite of circumcision, marked out this people as belonging to the Lord, that which no other nation was given or observed. All humans & animals in the company of God's people had to desist from any form of work or else punishment by death followed (Exodus 31:12-17). This command (or, any other commands) & any requirement to observe them, were not given to any other people except to Israel.
  • Dinesh - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
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  • Pastor Krupa Samuel Mothukuri on Proverbs 20:5
    It is useful to me.

    Thank you so much.
  • Lisa - in Reply on John 3
    It means there is a physical birth and a spiritual birth and not to be suprised that a spiritual rebirth is required.
  • Barry Cook on John 3
    Explain John Chapter 3 v 7 Thank you
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    17sharp, may the Spirit grace you with understanding, the reason I can justify adding the Holy Ghost in Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the fire is because:

    II Peter 1:21 For the prophecy (like the words in Zachariah) came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. It wasn't Zachariah that was going to bring them (creation) through the fire; but the Holy Ghost.

    Revelation 19:10 ........worship God: for the testimony (words) of Jesus is the (holy) spirit of prophecy.

    I Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ (Holy Ghost) which was in them (prophets) did signify, when it (Holy Ghost) testified beforehand the suffering of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

    II Samuel 23: 1-2 Now these be the last words of David, David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed (by the Holy Ghost) of God of Judah, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,

    (2) The spirit of the Lord (Holy Ghost) spake by me, and his (Holy Ghost) words were in my tongue.

    When the Spirit causes you to understand that the words in the bible are the words of Spirit and not of man then the Spirit will start bringing you into spiritual understanding and start washing away worldly wisdom, which is foolishness to God.

    May the Holy Ghost you with his wisdom.
  • Timothy isaiah on Isaiah 23
    I am he.
  • Nathan Unger - in Reply on Matthew 11:17
    Thank you!!!! This....!!!! Amen brother =)
  • Derek on Genesis 6:12
    Those pre flood were led by sons of gods off spring, very intelligent builders after all their father was a builder and designer. These sons had the intelligence and skills to build and design but it was used to fight each other. They messed with DNA they created virus and strange hybrids that are mentioned in mythology and on the walls of the pyramids. God saw that his creation had become corrupted and sent the flood. But even after that there remained bad strands of DNA in Noah and family which occasionally showed up as giants again. Virus where created and put into animals and where made off limits to man, kosher food only. We eat virus infected meat, or meat which has the potential to become virus ridden very easily. We disobey gods will and every commandment is regularly broken. Though shall not kill, abortions are killing. Though shalt not worship false idols, look in any church and see statues of mary or jesus. The rest are easily identified as being broken. I'm going off track lol. But there is going to be a price to get things back to gods way again.
  • Tianna Lewis on Revelation 8
    No I don't have one on my tablet that is the problem I want it to read to me
  • Diana Q on Revelation 7:9
    Was the star that led the wise men to Jesus ever an Old Testament prediction?
  • Justice Ndekesse on 1 John 3
    My question is how to know God's will for your life ? We, sometimes accomplish our own will instead of accomplishing God's will for our life.
  • Rodney. - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Hi Chris. .i do realise your have to respond to many question.just food for thought .i will be brief. Scientist have built enormous particle accelerator costing billion trying to duplicate what God put into existance by the" word of His mouth" they have tried to create life but to no avail .then they decided what the heck and they built a robot instead .hence we have Sophia.now that is another topic to descuss whenever you have the time .

    Kind Regards

    Rodney
  • Rodney - in Reply on Philippians 3
    Dear Chris .Thank you for your prompt reply. I m sure you agree when the heavens and the earth were created ,it was the creation of one God ,our creator. sadly Satan misleads the majority of us into believing there are many gods and many paths leading to the Kingdom of the true God and His Son Jesus Christ. From a logical perspective the creation of the heavens and earth ,the universe is to complex for us mere mortals to even try to comprehend adding to that indescribeable event God created the heavens and the earth in six days and on the 7th God rested and put aside ,"Santified a special day of rest.. a sign of our alegiance to our creator.my thought is this why on such a mind boggling event would the 7 th day of rest and worship over time now become the 1st day of the week. Would the almighty God allow such a change to happen? ! God forbid! I will bck up my claim with verses .Chris ,if i may call you Chis? I ask myself did the 7th Sabbath precede the Sunday of worship or viseverse.im using capital letter Sunday out of respect for your belief. I got to start replying to your verses of the day one reason being i read your prayers and they are of dedication and genuine concern for your fellow human beings .i am replying for the same reason out of genuine concern for my fellow human beings.May we according to God's word together descredit Satan and his lies and deceit .and i mean for us to do this being led by the Holy Ghost..if God is for us ! Who can be against us and i say this with conviction.please advise .

    Kind Regards

    Rodney
  • T Demps on 1 John 3
    What does Michael David mean?
  • Joe - in Reply on Matthew 11:17
    I believe these verses are a parable aimed at the many un-believers, likely the Pharisees & Sadducees, - aka " ... this generation" who were acting like children who sometimes get huffy and say something like "I'm not going to play with you anymore".

    The worst part is, many of these Pharisees & Sadducees never did believe - unlike children who usually change their attitude and soon return to their playmates.
  • David Coote on Daniel 3
    I hope these bible story encourage us to believe what God can do for us, when we are in difficult situtation in life. Dont give us God will come through for us
  • I7sharp - in Reply on Matthew 13:41
    "Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part ..."

    Earl, how can you justify "adding" the part "(the Holy Ghost)" in the above?
  • ... - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Well Idk if that other answer answered it because I didn't read it but

    Because Jesus was with God

    John 1:1

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    John 10:30

    "I and my Father are one."

    So the Word was God and was with God since the beginning. So Jesus was the one with God and is also God.

    Genesis 2:18

    "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."

    Genesis 2:21-23

    "And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;"

    "And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."

    "And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

    So MAN was created in the image of God but woman was created as a help meet for man so women were not created in the image of God if that answers anything.
  • Andy on Genesis 6:2
    what was the 7 pleages in revelations chapter14.is this the lastbof days now

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  • Receiving Favor Giving Favor - in Reply on Psalms 91
    The favor of God can be described as "tangible evidence that a person has the approval of the Lord." When we favor someone, we want to be with him or her. We delight in him/her. We connect with him/her in a way we don't connect with everyone else. We usually favor people who also favor us. IN THE SAME WAY, God shows favor to the ones who delight in, connect with, and give honor to Him. Isaiah 66:2 says, "These are the ones I look on with favor: those who are humble and contrite in spirit, and who tremble at my word." 2 Chronicles 16:9 says, "For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong on behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him." To be "perfect" toward Him means we seek His favor more than we seek the favor of anyone else, even ourselves.


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