Bible Discussion PAGE 243

  • Nancy E Edwards - in Reply on Proverbs 2
    Thank you ! So much for taking the time to answer my question. Nancy Edwards
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    I don't believe there's any Scripture to say this. We can observe from Jewish practise that they didn't resort to cremation of the dead, rather entombment, of if wealthy & had land, the body placed in a sepulchre, suitably embalmed & bound in 'grave clothes'. I would think that the early Christians followed this practise as well, as it was well known that those who generally cremated their dead were not of godly heritage.

    For the Christian now, the choice is generally based on cost & the wishes of the departed. I don't see anything to preclude a Christian from cremating their dead, as God is well able to raise them to life in whatever form they are in now. My personal wish is for a burial when my time comes, in line with the practises of old, but of course, I would have little interest in this once departed.
  • Thomas McElwain on Genesis 3:6
    Genesis 3

    The serpent tricked them and they ate

    The fruit that brought sin to their state.

    Adam and Eve then left the park

    And entered in a world of dark.
  • Chris - in Reply on Ecclesiasticus 10
    The Holy Ghost, being God's Spirit, is given by God to all who are His children. And here I'm talking about those who truly belong to Him - not just Church-goers, doing all the right things to please God, or even coming God's Way but actually still in love with the World.

    Just to state who this true Christian is: he/she is one who has become convicted of his sins & realizes that his efforts can't save him - only God can through the death & resurrection of His Son. When the sinner repents (which is done under the influence & presence of the Holy Spirit), that sinner is forgiven based on what Jesus has done on his behalf. That is, Christ's taking your sin's & crucifying them on the Cross meant that He took your place in death, so that you won't remain spiritually dead in sins, but made spiritually alive in Christ & also acceptable to God. So we say that the sinner, once condemned for his sins, is now forgiven, redeemed & made a new person through this Work of God, i.e. he is born again in his spirit.

    So, if one is born again by God, he is in the family of God, with the many others who have come the same way: through the Cross. If then in God's family, God sets His Seal in him, marking Him as one of His children. And that seal is that of the Holy Spirit who lives within the child of God, marking him as one & also receiving the full ministry of God to him: of teaching, comfort, strengthening, conviction of any sin, wisdom & power to live correctly, & many more. The Spirit never leaves, even as Jesus has promised, which means that even though we might fail God at times, we will always repent & be restored - that's God's Promise. The 'Christian' who turns back & rejects God, is one that has not come to salvation God's Way, but his own way.

    If someone seeks this mighty presence of God in his life by coming any other way, then he will be disappointed: his sins remain, his life will be the unchanged & he will appear as a religious person but without God.
  • Ron on Romans 9:21
    Right on Rickey! It is LOVE created by GOD that saves us!!

    John 3:16
  • Thomas McElwain on Genesis 2
    Genesis 2

    God blessed the Sabbath day and made

    Two trees to choose the right displayed

    Or wrong. God gave marriage to be

    Gauge of His love eternally.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 7:9
    In every Bible-based, Bible-believing congregation, the 'leader of the Church' (also, called an Elder or Pastor) should have elders & deacons to assist in the teaching, direction, & management of the flock. So in Acts 20:28, Paul called for the Ephesians elders & gave them this instruction: "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood."

    The Pastor & the eldership have the responsibility & endorsement by God to teach & shepherd His flock, ruling well & directing the Church according to the Scriptures & in a society that opposes Christ. In the early Church, believers were heavily dependent on their leadership for proper spiritual guidance as they had little else by way of the full counsel of God & spiritual maturity to discern correct or incorrect teaching. Therefore, the apostles had to often 're-teach' or warn the believers of wrong teaching & to beware of the 'wolves' lurking in the Church to destroy her.

    Today, we have the full revealed Word in our hands & the Spirit to help us understand & apply its Truths. If the Pastor or speaker has said something that seems incorrect, or in your case, a questionable decision he has made, then I believe it is the right & responsibility of the Christian to enquire further about it. If it's a question of something spoken from the Word, one can approach the speaker (as a couple have even asked me to further expand a point that I may have glossed over). If it's to do with a Church matter (its organization, its direction, its ministry, etc.), then doubtless the elders would've come together to discuss & pray over the matter & the Church informed so the matter is fully aired. If there is an individual dispute over it, then it would be correct, in all humility & knowing the Pastor's position & responsibility, to seek further light on it from him or the elders. One shouldn't be chastised for it.
  • Sudhakar on 1 John 1
    seeing and hearing determines our fellowship.

    never see nor hear things that damage our fellowship with Christ.

    see( the life of jesus) and hear things that enhance our fellowship with Christ.
  • Tina on Romans 12:3
    What happens in the story of God Calls Abraham in Genesis
  • Diamond on Proverbs 1
    "A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:"

    i love it Amen.
  • Rita Tetsell on Genesis 3
    Why wasn't Eve startled that the serpent was able to speak.
  • Ralston G McBeath on Hebrews 5
    Why do preachers persist in telling Gentile Congregations that everything that Jesus taught and said while He was on earth was directed to them? It clearly was not because He was talking to Jews under the law the whole time. No Gentile was allowed in to a synagogue. He was talking to Jews when he gave the Disciples the great commission. He told the disciples Matt.10:5-6, not to go to the Gentiles. They were also called dogs by him as well as all Jews, (Ref. the caananite woman who asked for help). People are going to Hell because they are not being told the truth. The Apostle Paul called by Jesus. Plainly stated, that Gospel we are saved by is the one in 1Cor. 15:1-4 and stated in Galatians Ch. 1, that anybody that preached any other, Let him be accursed and that he got it by revelation from Jesus Himself. Jesus never preached any gospel but the Gospel of the Kingdom. He could not, because He had not been crucified yet. I know a lot of what He said was for our learning as Paul said, but He came here to fulfill the covenant promises , to be the King of the Jews AND to turn them into a nation of priests, who would then take salvation to the Gentiles. This failed because of the unbelief of his own people. Paul also stated in the bible that we, Jew and Gentile, would be judged by the righteous judge, according to his gospel, which was the Gospel of Grace (1Cor. 15:1-4). Why aren't people being told that? Again, people are filling pews every Sunday, thinking they are saved and are going to hell because they have not been told the truth. This is ALL in the book and preachers are not preaching it... WHY??? Don't tell me that the Apostle Paul has no standing because He was called by Jesus himself and wrote half the New Testament AFTER he spent three years in Arabia probably on Mount Sinai, getting a three year Revelation from Jesus, the same as the Disciples got from Him in person when He preached the Gospel of the Kingdom.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 22:2
    Just to add to Steven's suggestion: the Site, 'Answers in Genesis' is also quite informative & even has a section for children dealing with this creation/evolution conundrum that they might be facing. With children, they generally readily accept teaching given to them & possibly asking questions later. However, if you're dealing with adults, then any argument 'for or against' will come down to its common denominator: if everything created by definition requires a creator, then who created God? Conversely, those who are proponents of the 'Big Bang' that brought into being the worlds & eventually living creatures/species, have to also support how any chemical, seismic, physical activity can occur without there already substance to cause that to happen - hence, the need for a creator of that 'substance'.

    Man can only look at the evidence before him & use his knowledge (& imagination) working backwards to support his belief of an evolutionary process for the animate & inanimate worlds. Believers in God's Word begin from the first declaration (by God), & then work forwards finding that what we see & know now, fully supports Who God is & what He has done. But if the discussion is purely on the evolution of man from primate to homo sapien, then you will need to go deeper into the biological & spiritual dimensions as well as the possibility/impossibility of creating something of a different species from an established one. That would require much more scientific investigation.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 2
    A couple of Scriptures I would use to support this type of relationship, is 2 Corinthians 6:14: "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" and 1 Corinthians 7:39:"The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord." Allow me to explain this further:

    The first Scripture relates to any type of binding union, whether in marriage or in business, that such a strong union with unbelievers is inviting trouble, as some aspects of that union will go against the teachings from the Bible & of course, will cause a struggle in spirit as to whether to give in or challenge the other person or even break off the contract.

    The second Scripture actually speaks of a marriage when the husband dies (& this would apply the other way if the wife dies). Once the spouse has died, the other one is considered as single & eligible to re-marry if he/she so wishes. But if they do re-marry, then their spouse should be one who is also a believer in Christ, & preferably believing in the same doctrines/teachings from the Bible. Many marriages have become strained or gone sour because of major differences in this matter & in the raising up of children.

    You're still 15 yrs old, so don't be a great hurry to form such lasting bonds. Meet with other young Christians in your youth group & use that time not only to grow closer to the Lord, but to seek out friends that you can be close to & share more intimately with. When you get older, sorted out your education, job, & having the maturity to take on responsibilities that come with marriage, then pray to the Lord for the right young man who truly loves the Lord, putting Him first in everything & has a quiet, gentle spirit who will give you the love, honour & respect that you deserve.
  • Joe Russell on Ecclesiasticus 10
    How do i get the Holy Ghost?
  • Rita Tetsell - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Dear Chris, thank you so much for your explanation, it's much appreciated.

    Sincerely, Rita
  • Joey Gonzalez - in Reply on Proverbs 2
    Hello, the way I understand the Godhead and the 3 in 1, comes from a different angle. Remember we are crafter like Him let's look at Gods Body:(I understand He's Omni-all)

    Here we see it says the fullness of what makes up God the Creator dwelled in the Lord Jesus Christ- Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Isa9:6 is very telling, look at all the names of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor (Holy Ghost), The mighty God, The everlasting Father (Also the Father), The Prince of Peace.

    Counselor -

    The everlasting Father

    The mighty God

    We see from scripture, unless I missed a spot but there is only 1 image of God, The Lord Jesus Christ

    Col 1:15,2cor 4:4

    We humans are made in his Image AND Likeness.

    What does this mean? Image-Body/Spirit Likeness-Character, Emotions, The soul.

    It even says we have the 3 and they are 1 yet we are not 3 people.

    1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Isa 9:6 says speaks of the Lords Spirit when it mentions He will be called Wonderful, Counselor

    What about the soul? The Father? Jesus mentions His (The Father)"shape" being unknown

    John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

    Col 1:15 calls Him "Invisible" Yet He is one with the Word made flesh, The Son

    We are made in His Image and likeness, body soul and spirit

    His Glory/Image/Majesty is displayed in the Lord Jesus Christ of whom is the

    "Body" of God- Col 2:9,2 Cor 4:4, Col 1:15

    Even the Lord Jesus Himself tells you unless He Himself is Being praised, Not the Father, nor the Spirit but HIM they are false look at what Joh 16:13,14 says about the Spirit of Truth.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 1
    The 'firmament' in Genesis 1:6-8 is shown in the Hebrew as 'raqia', which means 'an extended surface or an expanse'. In context with Genesis, the LORD God took the large body of water on the formless Earth, & separated the water by providing a firmament (& this is called heaven, or sky, verse 8). So one part of this body of water was on Earth (from which we get our oceans, seas, rivers, etc., verse 9) & the other body of water was above the firmament. Now, we're not told what happened to that water above or in the sky, as we're told about the water on Earth. Whether that water dissipated & formed clouds bearing the water, or something else, we're not told specifically.
  • Thomas McElwain on Genesis 1
    Genesis 1

    To start with God made everything:

    Light, air, earth, stars, and whales to sing,

    On the sixth day both beast and man,

    And gave fruit, nuts and grain by plan.
  • Chris - in Reply on Exodus 39:9
    A 'span' is generally understood as 9 inches 22 cms) in length; as you would when extending the palm of your hand & measuring the distance between the tip of your thumb to the tip of your little (5th) finger. So the breastplate was foursquare: 9" length & 9" breadth & this was affixed to the front of the Ephod.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on John 5
    Hi Barbara, didn't know if you got a clear clear answer from your question, here is some verses that might help. nd Corinthians 5:6-8. and Philippians 1:20-23. The spirit which is you, goes to be with the Lord and the body which Paul calls a earthly house/ tabernacle. meaning a tent, " temporary dwelling place" goes to the grave. Also read st Thessalonians 4:13-17. hope that helps.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Revelation 22:2
    HI R.P. Mai. No I don't think you will find where God created any nations on the 6th day, but in Genesis 1:26-31.
  • Bob - in Reply on John 17
    Well at least you recognize that the Lord God almighty gave Jesus these authorities etc . That's good .

    I for one never except error .

    That's like excepting another's sin .

    The proof is all in the scriptures. But I think many sleep while reading them . They strain at an obscure verse and neglect the theme of Scriptures.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Revelation 19:2
    Hi Martha, you can look up J Vernon Mcgee commentary on Revelation 18 and 19, on blue letter bible or Thru the Bible site. he does a good job on it, hope that helps.
  • Bob - in Reply on John 17
    That's the best you can do ?

    Keep reading I will pray for you !
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Revelation 22:2
    HI Amber, Chuck Missler does a good job on that topic, "creation vs evolution".
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Jeremiah 4
    In a since we are in Ch 2 and 3.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on John 17
    Hello Bob,

    That is correct. I don't have a problem with people saying Jesus is God.

    If you do then that's your issue. As my post was only to make peace. I do not call Jesus Christ the Father. Lots of other people do though so it's them you quarrel with I guess. I say the Father is in Jesus Christ and He in the Father. Just as our Lord states in John 14:10.

    Yes the Father has authority over all. But you seem to put Jesus Christ on our level? God our Father has given all His authority to His Son Jesus Christ. He has all the power of the Father. You said to someone else "I agree that Jesus and the Father are One". How you interpret that is up to you.

    Jesus Christ is the exact representation of the Father. As in Hebrews 1:2-3. God our Father is Spirit not human.

    Yes I also would say Jesus Christ is at the right hand of the Father. I would also say the Father has given Him a throne also. Matthew 28:18, Matthew 25:31, Revelation 3:21

    A couple verses showing the Oneness of God and Christ. Revelation 5:13, Revelation 22:1, Revelation 22:3

    God Bless you.
  • Alex - in Reply on John 17
    Hebrews 1 V 8 KJV The Scripture says unto the Son thy Throne O GOD is Forever and ever and a sceotre of righteousness is the sceptre is THY KINGDOM , THIS IS PLAINLY CALLING CHRIST GOD THE SON, When ya say that Christ is not God the son you are in essence saying that GOD NEVA HAD AN ABSOLUTE SON, how sick is that ? Jesus had to be God the son simply b/c mans blood cd neva atone for the sins of the world, He only took on flesh and blood to die for the sins of the world then here comes these devils making all these derogatory remarks about his deity they don't realize that if he were not God his body and blood wd be no atonement for the sins of the world,mans blood cd neva atone as jesus said outa of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil. Thats y John was preaching behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world . Then there is that hidden facet to the cross which is multiplication of very God in humanity via the seed of Christ , He said smite the shephard ( his death ) then the sheep will be scattered then I will turn my hand to the little ones which are the babes and sucklings that are baby Christs that are gonna a be born in US via his seed, which are the Children of PROMISE THE LITTLE ONES . Whosover receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth ME. see the multiplication via his seed the living words of God the Promise CHILDREN OUR NEW BIRTH ETC. Our fruit unto God. His CHILDREN ARE GODS THAT ARE GONNA BE BORN IN US WHICH ARE SPIRITS THE ISRAEL OF GOD. REMEMBER TO WHOM THE WORD CAME HIS SEED IT MADE THEM GODS. And the scriptures cannot be broken our lord said. Even in the natural when a seed dies it multiplies . Thus Gods plural,Remember God almighty swore by his very self when he made that promise of Christ being multiplied as the stars of heaven Thats y JESUS said to whom the WORD came it made them GODS PLURAL That are GONA BE BORN IN US. He does not multiply after the human kind simply b/c his seed is the living word seed the of God.GB
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on Isaiah 13:10
    Look at st Samuel 14:1-23, Maybe?

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