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  • Sheila Hedgepeth on Romans 8:21
    in ROMAN 8:30 what does predestine mean this chapter? in my King James Study Bible is says its meaning is not the same as what we think of predestined. help.
  • Greg - in Reply on Isaiah 13:10
    Jesse,

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    I believe that we are then given information concerning when the Holy Spirit might speak through us as well as how we are to prepare for it in Mark 13:11

    "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost."

    I believe this applies specifically to the end times, but it can also be applied in a general way to the trials and tribulations a person endures throughout their own life, and their desire, or lack thereof, to seek Jesus; similar, in a sense, to your point of view.

    Persecution of God's people has never ended since the Fall of Adam. There is, thank God, only one Great Tribulation for mankind to have to go through.

    Concerning your understanding of Greek, I am sorry if I sounded condescending. Being zealous has never seemed to help my cause, nor has my built in northeast sarcasm.

    Concerning Judas, (and for anyone for that matter), I would rather error on the side of the power of repentance and forgiveness, and again lean on Scripture concerning him being sorry for his actions and taking steps to repair the offence (Matthew 27:3)

    If I am able to make up for an error against my neighbor, I hope that I would make every effort to do so while I am still in this mortal body. James 2:14-26, Revelation 14:13, etc.

    Thanks again Jesse for your time.
  • Greg - in Reply on Isaiah 13:10
    Jesse,

    Lots of feed-back, much appreciated.

    First of all you are correct; you never said that the word teknon does not mean "child."

    You actually said that the word kalos does not mean child, and again, you are correct.

    I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

    As far as the topic of repentance, I would refer to the definitions of the two Greek words offered previously, as they are both defined as "repent."

    You bring up some interesting ideas about Judas being sorry but not repenting, , but I fully believe the words of Matthew 27:3 to be literal and true on face value; that is, Judas "repented himself."

    Concerning Acts 1:18, again, I have never heard of anyone that can commit suicide by cutting themselves open from their Adam's apple to their belly button. That is one tough person. You say that it is possible. I disagree. You do provide interesting theories as well as historical basis to show how this may have happened.

    I will offer another. The high priest (appointed by the Roman governor) that falsely accused Jesus likely did not want Judas to remain alive after he threw the money back at them and looked like he was sorry for what he did: So they murdered Judas also.

    Your understanding of the unpardonable sin is thought provoking.

    I never quite looked at it in that light but can definitely see how it applies throughout one's lifetime in a general way.

    I would have to again lean on the Scripture already provided in Matthew 12:32, as well as Mark 3:29 and Luke 12:10.

    "And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

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  • Joan Halkett on Isaiah 13:10
    What does it mean to be "double minded"?
  • Se Jones on Psalms 72
    Yahawah-God of Israel , Will send His beonly be gotten Son Yahawashi, to Save His People Soon !
  • Carleton - in Reply on Ephesians 5:26
    Hello Walter, I can remember being baptized (the mode was immersion) because I accepted Christ by faith. Folks clapped when my decision was made. Like you seem to be saying, I lacked power over changing my life from constant sins, I studied the Word and gained knowledge but not peace and not power. I could feel the presence of the Holy Spirit only it was outside of me instead of inside me. Life went on several years like this until I finally reached a point that I felt burdened with sin in such weight that I began crying out in my heart to Jesus for real. I was led to believers whom had power over willful sin. I could see their peace and I wanted it. I learned about repentance at any cost to me and again by faith (happened to be in the back of a box truck at a dock in the middle of the night) I kneeled down and cried my heart out to the Lord. In seconds I had the peace of the Holy Spirit comforting my soul on my inside. This comforter reproves me as I begin to error to this day. Do I want to lose my peace, do I want to return to such a sad position I once was found? The answer is no. Clearly the evil one would like me to stray and many traps have been set, but the Lord guides by His Holy Spirit. My Baptism by water (the mode was pouring) joined me to fellow believers that help by love to be witnesses of Truth that is in them. If I stray, if Satan takes me on a an unplanned trip (say in thoughts, or offense) the Life of the other witnesses speaks to me of my need to repent.

    Carleton
  • Jesse - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Naya,

    Yes, I did read the scriptures you sent. However, those scriptures do not change my view to match with yours. Here's where we differ:

    I do not agree that "no one is in a conscious state after death." The story of the rich man and Lazarus would show me that both were in a conscious state after death.

    I do not agree that when we die (Physical death) "our body and soul dies and we're asleep until the appointed time." I believe this is a teaching held by the Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe the physical body (Flesh) will die and be in the grave, and one day we will receive our glorified bodies. But I believe the soul lives on forever. The soul of man will never die, or cease to exist. I don't believe in "Soul Sleep" either.

    I don't agree that "Jesus did not finish his ministry." Jesus Himself said, "It is finished right before He died on the cross." If His ministry and work were not complete, what would be our hope for salvation? I do believe Jesus finished His ministry here on earth. I do not believe that any human power could have stopped Him from finishing what He came for. To say that they killed Him halfway through His ministry doesn't make sense to me.

    No human power could have taken Him before He completed His work. There was a mob of about 1,000 men who came to take Him after Judas pointed Him out, but even that many men with clubs and swords could not have taken Him if His time to be taken was not then and there. Jesus blew that crowd of men backward on their behinds twice just by the power of His voice. You would have thought that by that time, they would have turned and ran. They couldn't have taken Him no matter how many men came to do it. Jesus surrendered Himself freely. If He was not finished with His ministry, He would not have freely surrendered Himself at that time.

    Thanks again for the conversation.
  • Ms Harris - in Reply on Genesis 2
    What do you mean by burnt faces, people of color, because there are darl skin people in all of those countries. Just trying to understand were you going with this statement.
  • Onyekachukwu Ogechi Levinus Alaka on Psalms 118:1
    O give thanks unto the LORD. The grateful hero feels that he cannot himself alone sufficiently express his thankfulness, and therefore he calls in the aid of others. Grateful hearts are greedy of men's tongues, and would monopolize them all for God's glory. The whole nation was concerned in David's triumphant accession, and therefore it was right that they should unite in his adoring song of praise. The thanks were to be rendered unto Jehovah alone, and not to the patience or valour of the hero himself. It is always well to trace our mercies to him who bestows them, and if we cannot give him anything else, let us at any rate give him our thanks. We must not stop short at the second agent, but rise at once to the first cause, and render all our praises unto the Lord himself. Have we been of a forgetful or murmuring spirit? Let us hear the lively language of the text, and allow it to speak to our hearts: "Cease your complaining, cease from all self glorification, and give thanks unto the Lord."

    For he is good. This is reason enough for giving him thanks; goodness is his essence and nature, and therefore he is always to be praised whether we are receiving anything from him or not. Those who only praise God because he does them good should rise to a higher note and give thanks to him because he is good. In the truest sense he alone is good, "There is none good but one, that is God"; therefore in all gratitude the Lord should have the royal portion. If others seem to be good, he is good. If others are good in a measure, he is good beyond measure. When others behave badly to us, it should only stir us up the more heartily to give thanks unto the Lord because he is good; and when we ourselves are conscious that we are far from being good, we should only the more reverently bless him that "he is good." We must never tolerate an instant's unbelief as to the goodness of the Lord; whatever else may be questionable, this is absolutely certain, that Jehovah is good.
  • Reverend Robert on Psalms 27:14
    YHVH or LORD JESUS the CHRIST of GOD ALMIGHTY does work on my time Table. HE comes through at the best time which only HE knows. I thank HIM for answering my prayers. For doing what is right and not what I ask for at times. We need to see what can be done before we go to HIM. This will " thank GOD" all go the way of the BIBLE. Stay in the WORD till the WORD is in you. As we know the WORD took on flesh and was named Yashua. CREATOR GOD saves. Love you all. Bob
  • Albert on 2 Kings 5
    There is a valuable lesson to be learned from 2 Kings Chapter 5. Naaman, a might warrior, was full of pride. The little maid, possibly a young girl in her teens, was a very humble servant was willing to share her faith--even with the people who were oppressing her. Her testimony about the God of Israel brought healing and wholeness to the captain of the Syrians; Naaman, on the other hand, almost missed his blessing because the prophet told him to do something he did not want to do. He went away angry, upset that the man of God would dare tell him to dip himself in the dirty Jordan. How many times have we missed our blessing because God told us to do something we did not want to do? Humility is a key ingredient in approaching the God of the universe. Naaman discovered that when he obeyed the instructions of the prophet that God healed him. It is a very powerful lesson. Obedience and humility are the keys to our miracles.
  • Jacquie - in Reply on Psalms 2
    Jerry: since you are able to see these things in yourself, you are not as far away from the Lord as you think. You recognize these things in your life. Jesus is able to work with you and to help you do better. Thought this would encourage you.
  • Eva Rabon on Revelation 3
    When I see someone wearing a cross, I think they are telling the world that they are a Christian

    and have took JESUS CHRIST as their LORD AND SAVIOR.
  • Vannesa Ifunanya on Psalms 3
    Lord,how are they increased that trouble me, many are they that rise up against me to keep me in all my ways.
  • Chukuemeka Mitchelle Ifunanya on Psalms 3
    What does God Do everyday.
  • Jeremy Byrd on Revelation 22:4
    Revelation 22:4 KJV says in their foreheads. What is the significance of "in" their foreheads instead of "on" their foreheads in other translations?

    4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
  • Robert Marino - in Reply on Genesis 10
    sounds good Chris. be safe brother.

    also, I have a hard time finding your correspondence from the previous comment. I'm not very good with blogs I guess. I thought when you hit "reply" it would bring you to the last comment.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 10
    Thank you once again for your comments Robert - they are appreciated. I'm away for a month in rural areas with intermittent internet, so am unable to respond adequately. I hope to resume once again on my return. However, your comments are very informative & enlightening & require further consideration.
  • Tarry One Hour in the Prayer Room on John 6:38
    Matthew 26:38

    Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

    Mark 14:34

    And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.

    Luke 24:29

    But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

    Mishael
  • Walter Rowell - in Reply on Ephesians 5:26
    I have been baptized twice, went under a sinner came up a sinner both times. (The sinner on the cross was saved by the spoken word of Jesus.) I still sin. If I were baptized again I dont think I would stop. I find no good thing in me except the word (the truth). We read that we must believe God exist (the devil believes and trembles) but also believe He is the rewarder of thoes that seek Him. I seek Him in the Word, The Word convicts, I repent," The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart- These, O God, You will not despise." I do not want to spend eturnity with out salvation. I would be like the ethiopian, just let me find a preacher and some water. I am not being argementive, truly seeking answers, the Truth! I read "Thy Word Is Truth" and "you shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free" I take that free from sin. Yet I find no good in me. (just sayin) Is there no hope for me?

    Do I need a foot wahsing every day? I go out in the world every day I sin, I come to Jesus and pledge forgivenes.

    thank you for your wittness still surching. You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
  • What Happens To Our Spirits and Souls on Isaiah 13:10
    Adam was alive spirit, soul, body; until he and Eve ate the fruit. In Genesis 3:22 we see the Godhead conversing about how to protect the Tree of Life. It's not where it was, now: Revelation 22:2.

    Since it's written, by God: all souls are mine.

    Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the Earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 3:21.

    New Testament Scriptures on Christian spirits: Hebrews 12:23, Luke 23:46; Matthew 22:32, 1 Thessalonians 5:10,

    1 Peter 3:18, 2 Corinthians 5:1-8

    John 17-24, Philippians 1:21-24

    Acts 7:55-56, Acts 7:59, Genesis 35:18

    Love to all. Mishael
  • RevJones - in Reply on Malachi 3:10
    Trust in the lord,and lean not to your understanding but depend on him.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 21
    It's a spirit of false religion.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    There is so much you can be doing :D

    Jesus will surely take notice of your obedience and love for His people:

    Bless yourself and find joy in the process.

    Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

    Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

    *****

    Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

    When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

    Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

    And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    You're like me. So many Relatives and family That have gone to heaven. I don't know if you're in an apartment or house; but there is someone close by who would love a ray of sunshine in their life. I was going by nursing homes to pray with people who are shut in and have no family. I don't know if nursing homes are closed there?

    It helped me to just sit and listen to their stories or to just read some happy Psalms to them.

    Before my Dad died, I went every day to take him food I had cooked; and I fed him his dinner.

    Consider befriending some neighbor that you know is shut in pretty much. They love cookies that we make :D. They're lonely too. I'd start looking forward to it.

    Actually you are doing what Jesus asks of us: to visit the sick, the prisoners of their lonely homes, cookies with a note that says

    "Come and taste the goodness of the Lord".



    Don't be afraid to follow Jesus.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:9
    Call your State Attorney Generals office. If you type that into Maps in your phone it should bring up a phone number. This needs to be reported and they will investigate. They do not reveal your name so don't worry.

    See if you can do your loved ones laundry yourself. Get a Permanent ink black marker and write the name across the shoulder area. They will not take her clothes anymore.

    Ask God if you can have an angel to keep your loved one safe and protect all that Concerns her.

    Every time you think about this, stop and give praises to God for Mercy and Grace.
  • Hearing the Holy Spirit - in Reply on Revelation 12
    John 3 (open this link)

    Like the pharisee Nicodemus; you must be born again. After that you must ask to be baptized with the Holy Spirit.

    There is a great link in this website that will lead you through the steps to become a Christian. There are things we need to understand and agree that we are sinners in need of salvation.

    Once you receive the Holy Spirit, He is the one who makes alive, your spirit; and you will hear or feel His leading to get free from past things that hold you back. He'll help you recall things and you go to 1 John 1:9, to give those things to Jesus and receive his cleansing of those memories.

    If you are strong enough to fast 21 days, you will be a great witness for Jesus. You can have as much of Jesus's love that you desire in your soul. Song of Solomon 3:16,

    6:3, 7:10

    Go back to the red area where you come into this website to 'Community' and click on the link 'Become A Christian'.

    Join us in the Questions Room after you have gone through the steps.

    Mishael
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Mishael, I just realized you're speaking of what I've said in regards to Revelation 21. I've been conversing with Jesse so much on here, I can't remember how it got started.

    But again, I don't believe I'm scrambled on Revelation 21. It's pretty cut and dry the end of the Book.

    Thank you
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Mishael, no offense taken at all. Not that my cup is so full that I have no room to learn, but on the things that I have posted, I have studied over 20 years and I'm pretty solid that it's sound. And everything I posted I laid out scriptures I got it from.

    I'm not sure what specifically you're speaking of that I've said which you find to be scrambled, but I have no problem waiting whatever it is out until the day the Lord Returns to clear it up.

    Again, no offense taken. Thanks for your input though.
  • Naya - in Reply on Revelation 21
    Jesse, well, on Rome you will have to research history, deep into history and encyclopedias and match it with Bible history. You're sure to find what I have said is true if you do. A lot has to do with the Ten horns and what they represent dating back to the defeat of the Herulians, Vandels, Ostrogoths, Justinian and even Napolion, and so forth. It's Revelation 13 stuff you have to use world history with to piece it together. I would be writing and replying until the coming of the Lord if I went further into it. But I guarantee it's Rome. So I say to you just keep studying everything. Pray for more understanding, etc.

    You said it's too hard to keep the 10 Commandments??? Those are the very commandments mentioned throughout the bible that will assure us eternal life if we "strive" to keep them. You see I say "strive" because we're human. We cannot give up and say they're too hard to keep. What's so hard about not stealing, lying, committing adultery, coveting, keeping the Sabbath day holy, not worshipping idols and other gods, etc.? The first 4 commandments show us how to love God, the last 6 commandments show us how to love our neighbor (the way God instructed us to love our neighbor). So the 10 commandments is the law of love. As long as we're trying to keep them, we are showing love to God and our neighbors spiritually and physically.



    Now, there are other ways outside of that...but those are our basics. I think the only one most Christians have a problem with is the 4th Commandment. But I'm not trying to go down that rabbit hole. I gotta work out my own salvation with fear and trembling.

    The goal is to do what's required to make the First resurrection.

    And I forgot, yes, I agree the second resurrection is for the Lake of Fire; however, they still must be judged at the Great white throne judgment.(Scary) I plan on and hope I'm a spirit being doing the judging by then.


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