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  • Rick - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Hi Tony Its not that devils have natural traits, when a human is possessed the entity literally controls that body

    at its will, notice I said devils because that's what scripture calls them. Also there is a major difference between

    possession and influence, this is a field all its own that very few people believe or understand. One example I know

    of possession was a person I think in China could change the form of metal by thought, that was spiritual power.

    Any person that displays a so called ability that breaks natural law walking on coals of fire, so called mental telepathy

    clairvoyance , clairaudience, these things are forms of influence or possession.

    All of the above can be delivered and set free by the gospel.
  • Tom Stoud
    Look how closely these 2 prophets parallel each other. Ten thousand x ten thousand and thousands of thousands.

    Daniel 7:8-10 &

    Revelation 5:8-11
  • Leland Kendrick md
    When I read with a Christian attitude

    I believe Judas repented and was forgiven by Christ for his betrayal

    1,at last supper the decipiles all asked is it I

    2,Jesus said it is the one who dip into the bowl at the same time ad Jesus

    And when he did satan immediately entered into Judas therefore satan was not in Judas before that

    3 Jesus Said go quickly and do what you are to do

    4. So Judas identified Jesus and they bound Jesus

    5.he later said he betrayed an innocent man and repented

    That is the same we all do when we realize as sinners we repent

    And ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus as our lord and savoir and he is just to forgive

    6,Judas took the money and threw it back at the priest and left

    And he went and hanged himself

    Who would not feel such sorrow and depressed that he could have done such a thing

    Depressed can get so depressed that they cannot accept what he did

    He did not buy a field

    That field was where he hung himself and where the priest buried the money as that they could put put blood money back in the treasury

    How long hang on that tree before he started to decay

    Not long as insects would attack an would be easy to fall from the Knose

    And hit rocks head first to the. Rocks and spilt open

    Resembling when in state people would split there clothes In sorrow

    The veil of the temple split when Jesus died on cross and no longer needed any except Jesus to go to god for propitiation to god as he the way the truth any the only way to his father

    Cannot Jesus forgive and remove devils he sure can

    6 peter denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed

    The deciples to stay awake while he prayed

    He found them sleeping 2 times

    Is that not betrayal

    God forgave them and Peter

    And all the deciples ran and hid when the crowd came and arrested Jesus to save their lived

    So is that not betrayal

    God forgave

    Only John present while jesus was crucified

    And told John to take care of his mother

    Judas had to do to fulfil the scriptures
  • Wayne Marek - in Reply
    Thank-You !!
  • Wayne Marek - in Reply
    Thanks Adam, your response was just what I needed...I appreciate it !
  • Frank - in Reply

    What I was getting at was the US attacking itself on 9-11 to begin the fifth trumpet, Revelation 9. This is exactly exactly how anti-Christ begins the sixth trumpet with a surprise attack (takes three horns/towers). However, as I point out, in this case the US was quoting the sixth trumpet prophecy where the beast destroys Babylon and three kingdoms of his own confederacy of 10 to 7. The US may be sneaky, trying to couch itself as the mighty Russian beast, but there's no denying who the treacherous one is. Isaiah 33:1

    When the smoke clears, America's sun will have gone down while it was yet day. The Arabs will break forth in song. The triumphant Russians will break out their 9-11 satellite trained footage and broadcast what really happened at the World Trade Center and Pentagon to a bewildered world.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Amen, brother Jesse. Guessing prophetical meanings doesn't do anyone any good; we should stay close to what Scripture does reveal for our consideration & prayer.
  • Carleton - in Reply
    I feel the same!
  • Frank - in Reply
    The woman in chapter 12 are the 144,000 saints sealed for 1260 days, protected and nourished against death. They are disguised in several instances to make you think there are additional characters to the plot. No one else in Revelation is sealed for 1260 days but the saints, the witnesses to antichrists crimes. That's who the woman represents here.
  • Amarin - in Reply
    Please read Jeremiah 10:1-5 which seems to compare admiring a cut down, decorated tree to worshipping idols.
  • Amarin - in Reply
    Your faith is probably if superficial if during tough or trying times you do not trust or stand solidly on The Word of God.
  • David - in Reply
    Tim Babylon the great whore is the Kingdom of the adversaries greed world wide, a whore is a

    user so to speak, the Ruler of this kingdom was Nimrod the mighty hunter Before the Lord [ which means

    in absolute defiance or in Gods Face] you can trace the idolatrous systems of the world back to his kingdom which God

    scattered at The tower of babel. The worship of Ashtoreth and Molech and Queen of heaven and the Zodiac,

    and many other idolatrous worship around the world can be traced to Nimrods rulership, he was a kingpin for the adversary.
  • Jesse - in Reply
    Always nice to hear from you brother Carleton!
  • Amarin - in Reply on Numbers 14
    The Bible is The Word of God traditionally consisting of The Old Testament, The New Testament, and the Apocrypha. Some say the 14 Books of the Apocrypha was removed from American Bibles in the 1800's.

    In many older American Bibles the Apocrypha was placed between The Old Testament and The New Testament because some believe the Apocrypha was written between the period between of The Old Testament and The New Testament. The Greek word for word Apocrypha is apokryphos means hidden.

    The 14 Books of the Apocrypha are I Esdras; II Esdras; Tobit; Judith; The rest of Esther; The Wisdom of Solomon; Ecclesiasticus; Baruch, with the Epistle of Jeremiah; The Song of the Three Holy Children; The History of Susanna; Bel and the Dragon; The Prayer of Manasses; I Maccabees; and II Maccabees.
  • Tony - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Good afternoon David! Hope all is well. Thank you for your comment. I agree with you 100% that spirits cannot procreate. But I am not suggesting that demons are procreating as spirits. I am suggesting that the sons of God are devils that were banished from heaven to earth. There they took on natural bodies.

    Do you agree with me that demons can possess a natural body? If you do, then demons would have natural attributes.

    One attribute would be physical strength. Consider Matthew 8:28 - And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

    Another physical attribute of a demon possessing physical attributes would be procreation. Perhaps you have insight into who the sons of God were. I am more than willing to change my understanding based on Scripture.

    BTW, I also agree with you on your creation statement. Have a terrific day, David! What a great Biblical name!
  • GiGi again - in Reply
    Hi Mishael,

    I do look forward to God setting everything aright again. We have wonderful promises from God that He will overcome all of His enemies and put them under His feet. That is what Revelations is all about!

    Each believer is to walk as Noah did, in obedience to what God has called one to do in the days of our lives. Not everyone's call is exactly the same in the type of ministry they do, but to all it is to believe, obey, and do it all for the glory of God.
  • Rick - in Reply
    Adam It is amazing that the pilgrims were escaping religious persecution to come to the free world

    but over time due to politics and greed that freedom in Gods Word has eroded to the point we are at now.

    There again Gods Word says there is nothing new under the sun, also keeping in mind Who runs the kingdoms

    of this World. We are called to deliver individuals who want to believe, no entire nation will ever do that.
  • Amarin - in Reply on Psalms 23
    The Hebrew word for rebuke is ga'ar which meanings include: to cry out, to reprove (meaning to blame; to find fault).

    In Zechariah 3:2 the meaning could include: to check (meaning to stop; to restrain; to hinder; to curb) or to restrain by Moral Force.
  • Rick - in Reply
    Hi Frank I don't quite get all the stuff your discussing but I know the Russian KGB produced a document in the

    fifties stating they will take over the U.S. internally by dividing the people and breaking down the family unit.

    So far unfortunately they've done a pretty good job. When you take an honest look not only are people

    divided but they are angry to the point in some cases of no self control not good, but when leaders are divided

    so goes the country.

    Thank God for his Word and the Hope of Christ return because that's all that really counts!
  • Amarin - in Reply on Acts 2
    The Greek word for "foe" is "echtros" which means hating, opposing, enemy, or adversary.
  • The Harvest - in Reply
    You're right. The 6 day creation never fit with what we know.

    Now we are living within a prophesy of restoration. Each and every detail of it has to occur step by step; as told by Jesus in Matthew 24; Luke 21, Daniel and all of the time of the END scriptures. Each moment is happening by what has already been ordained. "As is in the days of Noah.." when the Ark was being prepared. Noah worked, and he preached to the people laughing at him. Eating drinking marrying etc. selling rides on spacecraft. Trying to sell people on colonizing Mars and harvesting water from asteroids. "The Elite" with all the money, believe they can just live on another planet, it is with zeal they disdain all the poor people they fleeced and outright robbed; and fully intend to LEAVE BEHIND.

    God is going to restore earth to "the Garden of Eden. (Ground zero). All of mans scars will be removed. It says so in 2 Peter 3. There will be no Devil to mess it up this time. He will be in hell; and eventually the lake of fire.

    Humans are inherently "afraid of change". They hold onto what they have with a "death grip". The Bible says that this earth will be cleansed by FIRE. It might take a thousand years? We don't know. All we know is there will be happiness in heaven.

    I'm not a false prophet. I'm pointing towards our reality Now. Prophesy will fill in all the blanks. God will do it. Everything Written is going to happen. Every jot, every tittle. With a huge "It Is Finished at the end."

    Ask the Holy Spirit to teach this to YOU.

    Alleluia, Mishael

    Scripture says the spirit of Elijah will arise. I believe it's happening. In this room even.

    Pray to THE LORD OF THE HARVEST. The fields are White. Which means, what?
  • Carleton - in Reply
    My thoughts Brother Jesse. Rome, Greece, Persia, Babylonia, Egypt and Assyria. Six worldly kingdoms.

    Thanks for your steadfastness.

  • Jesse - in Reply
    I would have to agree completely that the US is heading in the wrong direction, but I do not see any biblical evidence that would indicate to me that the US is the mystery Babylon spoken of in Revelation Chapter 17.

    First of all, the US is not a "Great City." If it were the US, would it not say great country? The US does not sit on 7 hills. Revelation Chapter 17 spells out who this mystery Babylon is and it is not the US. The description given fits no one else but the great city of Rome, the woman who was drunk with the blood of the martyrs and the saints (Rome under the Papacy). It was not the US slaughtering Christians during the inquisitions. Plus the fact that Babylon was used as a code name for Rome. In 1 Peter 5:13, Peter in closing his letter says, the church that is in Babylon salutes you. You have to keep in mind that the church did not exist during the time of ancient Babylon. But Peter says the church that is in Babylon salutes you. Why would he say that if there was no church in Babylon? It's because Babylon was a cryptic word for the church in Rome where he wrote the letter from, so if the letter got intercepted, the believers in Rome would not be severely punished.

    Studying through Revelation Chapter 17, it is much easier to see that it is referring to Rome than it is the US.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} Revelation 'speculation' - in Reply
    Precious friend, this is pure speculation about the 'prophecies Concerning ISRAEL,' in the future.

    Today's Age Of GRACE has to be Terminated By God "Recalling all His ambassadors" The Body Of Christ, In Great GRACE Departure 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-57, BEFORE

    'the First Seal,' (of Revelation) & Declaring War And Judgment on an UNbelieving world.

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15 Romans 16:25 Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,? ) instead of 'speculating'...

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Robert Hardy
    Colossians 1:18
  • David - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Hi Tony Biblically flesh is flesh and spirit is spirit they cannot procreate, a spirit bad source can possess a body

    but notsexually impregnate. now God who is spirit created the sperm in mary to conceive our saviour that's because

    God can Create because to create is to do or bring something into existence from nothing. In Genesis God

    spoke into being creation by His Word.
  • David - in Reply on Psalms 119
    Hello Jane Psalm 119 is remarkable because every verse mentions Gods precepts is a charge to do Gods word,

    then you have commandments ,statutes, laws, judgements,testimony, and so forth.
  • Linda Stark

    In Matthew 24:29 who is Jesus quoting?
  • Rick - in Reply
    Wayne It is not something that is explained it is believed by faith.
  • Rick - in Reply
    S.Spencer I new you weren't replying to me and that being said, I understand. God Bless

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