Bible Discussion PAGE 19

  • We don39t need the 10 Commandments - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Chris,

    The Law was never set up to be followed by man perfectly. That is why atonement (through blood sacrifice) was introduced with and as a part of the Law.

    The Law was established as guidelines for proper worship and proper living.

    Paul taught in the Synagogues on the Sabbath well after Christ had died.

    Peter observed Old Testament Health Laws well after Christ died.

    Why would they still be following those Old Testament Laws if ALL LAW was fulfilled through the Grace of Jesus which was based upon His death on the cross?

    Jesus is the only Person to have fulfilled ALL the requirements of the Law while He walked upon the earth.

    The rest of us cannot!

    The 10 Commandments, including the 4th Commandment, were made for man, "for all time."

    Wouldn't that include the present time period?
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Matthew 26
    Alex, you are correct, when we are born again we cannot sin because we believe the words that Christ has spoken. Ezekiel 36:24-27 For I (Christ) will take you (those born again) from among the heathen, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your land (kingdom of heaven, Christ in you). (vs) 25 Then will I (Christ in you) sprinkle clean water (baptism of Christ, baptism of Spirit, Christ in you) upon you, and ye shall be clean, from all your filthiness, and from all your idols ( works of your hands), will I (Christ) cleanse you. (vs) 26 A new heart (mind of Christ, the new heaven) also will I (Christs works, I am the potter you are the clay) give (grace) you, and a new Spirit (Christ in you) will I [Christ in You, (I John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons or God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear [to you, the day of the Lord, today is the day harden not your heart (mind)] , we (children of the resurrection) shall be like him (Christ): and I will take away the stony heart (carnal mind, old heaven) out of your (carnal) flesh, and I will give (grace) you an heart (mind of Christ, new heaven) of (Spirit) flesh. (vs) 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause (working of Christ, causing us to love our brothers, love our enemies,no sin) you to walk in my statutes (love all) and to keep my judgements (words), and do them. Psalms 92:4-6 For though Lord, hast made me glad through thy work: I will triumph in the works of thy hands. (vs) 5 O Lord, how great are thy works! and thy thoughts are very deep. (vs) 6 A brutish man (beast) knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this. Psalms 64:4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee.....
  • Daniel - in Reply on Psalms 35
    Whenever we become angry, it is one of several indicators that we are not letting go of our own will. There are several indicators that let us know when we haven't given ourselves completely over to Jesus. That we are operating in our own will, instead of God's. Anger is probably the most prevalent of these indicators but there are others. Such things as pride, envy, and worry. Each person must contemplate and discern their own indicators. Knowing the signs of being in our will, instead of God's will, can indeed lead us to where we need to be. Instead of looking at anger and other indicators that we identify, as being a spiritual defect, look at them as tools to use on our journey to become one with Christ.
  • Brother dan - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Brother Chris,

    At this point, you stated that you and I may not be making much headway in our discussion regarding the keeping of the 10 Commandments. I believe our discussion may still be beneficial to us, in ways that we may not realize at the moment. Also, it is possible others on this site may benefit from our discussion regarding this important issue.

    I realize there is a large following of people/churches including antinomians, that attribute some of the apostle Paul's teachings to lessening or even more drastically eliminating the need to follow the 10 Commandments.

    I hold the apostle Paul, as well as all of the other apostles that where chosen by Jesus in high esteem, but we should also acknowledge they were humans with the same weakness's as we have. Jesus is Perfect, and if there is a question such as we are discussing regarding the 10 Commandments, I will put my trust in following what Jesus said regarding this issue.

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

    If believe, if we argue against keeping the commandments we argue with Jesus, I'm not willing to do that...ever.

    God Bless
  • Andy G van den Berg on Matthew 26
    To ALEX

    Your latest comment is after religious and man-made doctrines (Isaiah 29:13; Colossians 2:18; 1 Tim. 1:6,7; Titus 1:14) and not after Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Revelation 12:9).

    The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God (1 Corinthians 2:14), and we know that ye have not the love of God in you (John 5:42). Therefore our message remains the same: Ye must repent and invite you to learn what it means. see message a few comments down.

    He that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man (1 Corinthians 2:15).

    Seek, and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7)

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Sunday Levinus Alaka on John 15:7
    My words - My doctrine, my commandments.Abide in you - Not only are remembered, but are suffered to remain in you as a living principle, to regulate your affections and life.Practically and experimentally, if you adhere steadfastly to the doctrine which I have taught you, firmly believing my declarations, conscientiously obeying my precepts, and affectionately embracing and relying on my promises; ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Psalms 72
    To ALEX

    Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message (John 18:37; Hebrews 12:25).

    God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit (John 4:24; Ephesians 4:3-6,13).



    Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

    Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me (Isaiah 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Romans 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Galatians 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).

    John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

    1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

    Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).

    You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life (John 5:39,40).

    He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man (1 Corinthians 2:15).

    There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true (Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).

    We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above (1 Corinthians 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find (Matthew 7:7).

    Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation (Romans 10:2-4).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Diane van den Berg
  • Dibro - in Reply on Psalms 72
    The Ten Commandments apply today. The (just) are free from their condemnation. (2nd death)

    God's (Moral Law) make the arrest

    The Gospel sets us free.

    Matthew 10:14 (example) Many trample the pearl of grace. Until they see God as a righteous judge,

    For them Gods law commands their attention.

    Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known & come to light.

    Have you ever lied? hated? Lusted? Stole anything? Had sex out side of marriage. Wild imaginations?

    What do you call someone who lies? What do you call someone who steals? What is someone called who uses Gods name as a cuss word?

    Let's be legalistic. An empty stomach lust for food. Is that sin? Of course not. But

    Jesus said whoever looks at another with lust (seizing them with wild imaginations) has already committed adultery with that person in their heart. Forget others, You're in big trouble.

    Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, & unbelieving, & the abominable, & murderers, & whoremongers, & sorcerers,& idolaters, and ((all liars)) shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    Now back to court....

    Telling an honest judge in a court of law you're sorry won't set you free

    and you can bet it won't work when we're summoned to stand the living God either.

    The wage for our sin must be paid. ((Death))

    The bible speaks of only two types of people.

    The just and the unjust.

    At our judgment reward will be given & taken away.

    But God will throw the book at the unjust. (second death)

    1 Cor. 15:1-4 Salvation in a nutshell

    Acts 17:30-31 God calls all people to repent (turn from unbelief) & warns Christ will (Judge) the world!

    Praise God earth is not home of those justified by the finished work of the cross!

    The "Just" have been justified by the blood of the Lamb. We have confidence!

    1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have ((boldness)) in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world!
  • Alex on Matthew 26
    Revelation 12 V 5 Comments by Alex about being bornagain of an incorruptible seed,THE Woman in Revelation 12 is the best example of the new birth.And she keeps the COMMANDMENTS simply b/c she has been born of God her Child is a baby Christ .Remember them that are born of God cannot sin KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS means we love our neighbor as our selves and God with all our hearts on these 2 commandments hang all the laws and the prophets. But this is not possible without being bornagain of that incorruptible seed meaning the words of the new covenant that are gonna be sown in our hearts. Her Child is a baby Christ which is the H.G. The multiplication of Christ the Child of PROMISE. Her TESTIMONY means the seed of CHRIST, Even in th natural a mans seed is his testimony. Her child is the testimony of Christ his seed etc. Christ IS THE FATHER of her Child . Them that are born of GOD CANNOT SIN Thats how she keeps the commandments, thats how he will fulfill the law by making it impossible to sin via his seed etc. What is so wonderfull about this woman is she is humanity that is gonna be born of God, Her child is the real H.G. The child of Promise making it impossible to sin as them that are born of God cannot sin. Jesus said he that soweth that good seed is the son of man,Thats how the woman got pregnant she heard the words of Christ ( his seed ) His voice etc which caused her much sorrows a pregnancy, B/C i have spoken these words sorrows have filled your hearts but after the child comes ( the H.G ) Her sorrows are turned into Joy. Thats y he is saying unless you receive the kingdom as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in.Revelation 12 v 10 John decribes the Child as the Kingdom, and salvation is now come etc. And the woman keeps the COMMANDMENTS simply b/c them that are born of God cannot sin.Doncha see that keeping the commandments fulfills the law simply b/c the woman has been born of God that new birth etc.Its love that fulfills the law.But without his WORD we have no love.
  • KC on Psalms 72
    Renee is SO right - EVERYTHING is the Lord's...it -earth and world - owes its existence and sustenance to Him. The rightful ownership of man IS GOD. What arrogant folly and eternal doom that man, in his God given gift of free will, does not accept this reality. And what comfort and eternal blessing belongs to those who have accepted The Truth of the King of Glory.
  • Blossom - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Jesus christ is the same yesterday,today and forever

    he never change

    he is our guide

    our ever present helper

    HE IS THE REASON I LIVE TODAY

    GLORY TO HIS HOLY NAME
  • Who is the book of ecclesiastics talking to on Romans 12:7
    Explain please
  • YES I DO on Luke 21
    Where can i get a kjv electronic bible one that i can sturdy even when i am resting in bed. the regular bibles tare and get wrinkled, if you fall off to sleep the regular bibles has the tendentsy to be abused.
  • Michelle on Romans 12:7
    Blessed morning Teboho

    It was blessed to be under both we were taught by the teacher when she preached,and you will find yourself by the altar during his preaching . You can tell the difference .........The difference to my understanding is teaching deals with educating ,teaching the word of God in depth to be understood so we can grow to become righteous Christians.



    Ministering is touching on areas that affects us daily and convicting sinners backsliders and backsliders

    at heart giving the answers from GOD'S word ( not the world's system) that will bring breakthrough to set free ,to turn hearts to GOD comfort, peace and hope ,

    ministering to the needs of people

    Ministering is like giving medication to the sick
  • Andy G van den Berg on 1 Kings 8
    On 1 KINGS 8:47

    The Word of God is God (John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20).

    The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

    It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived (Revelation 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you (Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Revelation 12:9).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 3:3,5; Revelation 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world (1 John 5:4; Revelation 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived (Revelation 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it (Matthew 7:14).

    Luke 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.
  • Judy Stinger - in Reply on Psalms 91:7
    Totally agree with you
  • Cristina N Scheeler on Genesis 2:23
    The Word of God is so timeless! I know sometimes, I get caught up on other chapters in the Bible, but it is always refreshing, to go back to the Book Of Genesis!, where it all began, it's like going back to the fundamentals of the faith. When I read the OT, I ask the Holy Spirit to see Christ!
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 72
    Thank you for sharing that Richard. I do agree that the Ten Commandments "are a good & a simple guideline for us" & I think, probably for a new believer who is learning about God & His general requirements, they do give some help & boundaries to work in.

    But how do those Commandments apply to a Spirit filled believer who is subjected to all types of intrusions into his life that demand a decision or a choice that is not covered in the Decalogue. We could give many examples of this, but to give a couple: a brother is brought into a difficult frustrating situation & his immediate response is to utter an expletive in disgust. Does the Decalogue cover this sin? If the brother relied on it for identifying sin(s), then he could comfort himself that that behaviour is fine before God since it isn't mentioned. But if he is troubled by that outburst & repents, what warrant does he appeal to for his act of contrition? There are some believers that are amongst us who think nothing at all to use 'flowery language'.

    Or, going to the grocery store, seeing some grapes on sale at a good price, but are they sweet? Why not try a couple & then make a purchase. After all this is not stealing as the Decalogue warns about stealing - it's only tasting a couple of grapes & surely that can't be stealing. Again, I've seen believers who think nothing about doing this - Why? - because it's not seen as stealing as per the Commandment. Why don't I do it? My warrant for not doing so is not found in the Decalogue.

    The above examples might appear strange, but I think, relevant for those appealing to the Ten Commandments as a set of Laws to abide by. It was necessary for Israel, including the myriad of other laws that were given them, but for those who have the indwelling Spirit, of what significance can they now hold? Aren't the Words of the Spirit to our hearts, His convicting, His directing, His pleading, of greater worth than those Laws engraven in stone that only led to death & not Life?
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Zechariah 5
    Samson committed suicide and yet he is in the hall of faith in the book of Hebrew chapter 11

    This is not something I would want to suggest to anyone, just stating a fact.

    Judges Chapter 16 28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.

    29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.

    30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with [all his] might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that [were] therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than [they] which he slew in his life.

    Hebrews Chapter 11 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.

    31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

    32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] SAMSON Samson, and [of] Jephthae; [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets:

    33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
  • Mangi on Isaiah 46:4
    John 12: 28-30 the voice in Heaven indicated that a special event will take place in the future--that is God's name will be glorified again in the future just like Jesus glorified God name by doing all the work that God asked him to go and do it on earth.

    Jesus indicated clearly that the voice that came from heaven is not for him but for the people. this means that people must not confused when similar things happen in the future (out time). This prevent the people from confused in case they confused just like they did when Jesus came down on earth when they think Jesus is just the son of Maria and Joseph.
  • Jackie Bolin - in Reply on Matthew 26
    That was my point he survived the flood but hewill not survive the BLOOD

    May God bless you and your family always
  • Frank Garcia - in Reply on Numbers 12
    I tell you the truth brother when you don't have your mind, soul, heart, on Jesus you will start living in the flesh moving away from Jesus you can always come back repent your sins and receive grace. Bless you .
  • Frank Garcia - in Reply on Matthew 26
    Amen brother, the Bible has all the answers we need to know let the Holy spirit guide our way .
  • The Demonic - in Reply on Matthew 26
    That's because satan survived the flood. However, his "angel" followers drowned. That's when they became demons. No longer having bodies the seek bodies: in pigs, other animals or, in wicked human beings.

    They can't get inside of a Christian unless they are apostate: have spurned Christ to follow the world. People in satanic religions routinely allow demons access to their bodies. With a body, the demons can hurt, kill, cause accidents, sickness, drug and alcohol dependence. I guess you could say wicked people are weak.

    Christians who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit of God (Paul said our bodies are the Temple of God)...cannot be invaded by demons.

    That's why we are told to keep our human bodies swept of idols and garnished with the Word that we read in our Bibles. They know we can cast them away with some

    IT IS WRITTEN + a Bible scripture stored in your heart. That's your sword of the Spirit !

    :)
  • Stanjett on Matthew 27:63
    what is "an hundred and seven and twenty" years old? The way they counted in those days.
  • Jackie Bolin - in Reply on Matthew 26
    Thanks Brother Earl Bowman Take all the sound doctrine i can get
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Genesis 19
    It don't have to say it in the bible to be true. Hate the sin but love the sinner sounds true to me.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on Genesis 17:6
    Type in your ? in box above. Theres an old map which will show you what you need. Type old bible maps.
  • Stanjett on Genesis 16
    And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram. Wow 86 years old. I still got hope. I'm 80.
  • Richard - in Reply on Psalms 72
    I very much agree with what you are portraying brother. What I feel is that the Ten Commandments are good a, simple, guideline for us. Of coarse we have all already sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23. Jesus Christ is our one and only saviour sent by our Father. Even though we will still probably all make mistakes it seems good to me to have some good guidelines to at least go by in the evil world we live in. To make our Father happy as surely none of them are bad things or that we can't easily fulfill by just using a bit of self control. Still as I can say a parable where one would have to choose between disobeying a Commandment or following the Will of God. How we need the Holy Spirit gifted to us as our teacher. Just as you said though. Our Fathers love is so great in that He has already given the perfect sacrifice for all sins. Also as said it is all of a power not of my own. Something else that makes our Father happy is producing good fruit of the Holy Spirit. As I'm sure there are much better people in the world, than me, that have done many more good things. I take no credit for anything good I've ever done. I am forever thankful. Glory be to our Father.

    As praying for everyone feels right. The people who do right and them that do wrong. As the Lord has taught me to love all. As in Luke 6:35 :"for He(our Father) is kind unto the unthankful and the evil." Praise the Lord Jesus Christ and our Perfect Father! God Bless you brother.


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