Bible Discussion PAGE 179

  • Divorce - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    I Corinthians 7 is the marriage chapter.

    Jesus replied to someone's question about divorce in Matthew 5.

    Matthew 5

    31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

    32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

    You're not going to hell.

    Problems arise when people break a vow, remarry and try to blend families. It confuses children most often. They may have emotional closeness issues into adulthood. It is wisdom to remain single until the children have left home to start their lives.

    It is a good thing to go to your Pastor, or a pastor and discuss this divorce fully, and with prayer.

    Our society tends to jump over any Biblical input into marriage and remarriage. I think we can see by the content of some of Dr Phil's programs, the effects of marriages, divorce and lives lived without Biblical principles. You're doing a good thing by asking.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 6:13
    Maureen, we can only share our thoughts as to why God does things in a certain way - unless of course, He clearly tells us. We understand that on account of His Holy & Wise Being, & out of love, to have those that would belong to Him & worship Him & for us to enjoy God & His creation, He created a man (after His Own Image): Genesis 1:26. I don't ever think that a woman was ever an after-thought of God. God, as an Omniscient (all-knowing) God, already had His Plans 'set in stone'. Creation of a woman I believe was already in that Plan - after all, companionship, procreation, identification, etc. were all necessary for both man & woman. I always see the Genesis account of creation as both man & woman created in complete equality & perfection & necessary for each other for a perfect representation of the Divine on Earth. Of course, we know the story of man & woman's failure to remain holy by sinning against their Creator.

    However, in God's wisdom, the order of creation also depicts the proper of order of human life on Earth. Paul said in 1 Corinthians 11:3: "I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." This is not in any way depicting an inferior position of a woman (or, indeed of Christ to the Father) but an ordered 'hierarchy' & for submission & resorting to each other. As Paul also said, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are ALL ONE in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28. And this clearly shows that women are equal in every way before God & in Christ, but for the sake of position & functions on Earth, the submission of woman to man AND the unequivocal love the man has for his wife: Colossians 3:18, 19, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them." should remain our united & joyful objective in marriage.
  • Mild Bill - in Reply on Psalms 8
    Earl, Alex is fabricating Jesus as a multiplication of God(something that came later in time), rather than him always being God, as is the Holy Spirit. Multiply is not the word to describe Gods plan of salvation to believers. God sanctifies, believers are sanctified and called saints, subservient to Almighty God. Presuming diety is fatal. The numbers of people decending to hell far outnumber believers, and a multiplication plan favors their situation, rather that the few that find the door to heaven. I believe Alex has erred and misspoken about the nature of salvation, because he see's saints destroying Satan, and not God himself. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit have no beginning nor end.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 13
    Alice, we can have a Church building or a Church tent or even a Church meeting under the trees as in some poor village areas, but whenever the Bible speaks of the Church, the word used in Greek is 'ekklesia'. And this word can only mean 'an assembly, a congregation or a whole body of believers' - it's never connected to a building.

    Maybe you can explain it in this way to your spouse: we can say 'we are going to Church', i.e. to a building, but that building will contain the 'real' Church = the believers who meet there.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Jesus was indeed born in Bethlehem, but He was always an intrinsic part of the Eternal Godhead, along with God's Spirit. Jesus was not known as Jesus pre-incarnation - He was God's Word (John 1:1-14 & 1 John 5:7) becoming a man for our sakes.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 12
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    Re: Adam's first sinless state. Again, allowing your comment: "Yes, excepting Adam and Eve were created sinless and I had to gain sinless life via repentance to be saved and then later to be sanctified to be rid of the inherited sin passed on from Adam's fallen state." I agree, the corruption that came to you (& me) because of sin has remained with us, but your claim to now be sinless (= no inherited sin) through sanctification, tells me that all corruption has now been removed from you, or else you can't be sinless. However, once corrupt, the flesh remains in that condition (death being its final proof) in spite of a miraculous spiritual renewal by God. If God through His Son's Sacrifice would also remove that corruption, then you would be like Adam pre-fall & never fall ill, be diseased or die - it's impossible, as it would destroy the whole meaning of being incorruptible. Both Adam & Jesus could not die naturally, whether by disease or old age. Adam eventually did die because he was a sinner with a corrupt nature - Jesus did die because He was sinless but chose to surrender His Life: John 10:18, "No man taketh it (My Life) from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."

    The one who is sinless, has no corrupt nature & therefore can never die, as death is the final product of sin, which sin you aren't in possession of, as you believe.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 12
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    David, so again I re-read Romans chap 7 looking at it as you believe, in the 'historical present tense'. It was difficult to read in that tense, but I did so imagining the 'old' Saul speaking about his past experience of his spiritual battle in wanting strict obedience to the Law to give him life, instead it brought him death (v 10). To even go as far as verse 24, I can still consider his exclamation as one while still struggling to make the Law work for him. But then in verse 25 (not from chapter 8), I see the change in tense to 'present', when the 'new' Paul speaks with great relief from his struggle: "So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.": based on the fact that it was only Jesus Christ (Whom he had now & not in the past) Who could deliver him from the certain spiritual destruction ordained by the Law. The "So then" has to refer to him realizing that Jesus was his answer & salvation, something he could never say or do as a strict Jew under the Law.
  • The Five Fold Ministry in the Church - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    These scriptures define the system that Jesus set forth in Scripture. People call it the Five Fold Ministry. If you spread your fingers: the apostle is the thumb because it can touch on the other four fingers;

    the Pastor is the ring finger, because they daily care for Jesus's sheep.

    The prophet is the forefinger calling people to repent (points).

    Teacher is the center finger.

    Pastor, Keeper of the sheep.

    Last but not the least: Evangelist. The Gospel with shoes on.

    Jesus demonstrated the entire 5 fold ministry.

    Some people call themselves Apostles today. So as to not judge, you should spiritually discern the fruit of the Tree which is Jesus. Some people say the disciples were set apart as Apostles by having seen the risen Jesus; and that the modern Church does not have the office of Apostle in it.

    Ephesians 4:11

    And he (Jesus) gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    1 Corinthians 12:28

    And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

    I'm sure other comments will be added to this post. Just enter those as a new comment so my mailbox doesn't overflow.

    Mishael
  • Scriptures of the GodheadFatherSonHoly Spirit - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Acts 17

    29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

    30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

    THE GODHEAD SCRIPTURES

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    1 John 5:7.

    John 10:30, I and My Father are one.

    My favorite is Malachi 3:16-17. God listens when we talk together about Him.

    Also, in these following scriptures , we clearly see the Godhead (Acts 17:27-30) speaking to each other.

    NOTE: In the King James Bible, the words , TRINITY and TRIUNE, ARE NOT used. Someone who was unable to teach LET US as a lesson, used these other words to describe, 'Three.'

    If we used the Search Box provided on this website you would have seen it come up with No scriptures for Triune and Trinity. In the King James Bible the scriptures are what your search will fetch.

    Mishael
  • Teresa Mccurry on Matthew 24:9
    I know the book of Deuteronomy tells us why God, is allowing the virus, but I am left alone with my dog now isolated 3 years and 8 months every one I loved turned from God, and quit loving one another !

    I want a life a family ,but they all have up !

    I do pray for Jesus return but I really didn't want to see and know that they would turn away from me and God, it's hurting I pray God, atleast send me one human to go threw this with but I'm peaceful I know my saviour ,and all is well
  • Oglethorpe on Isaiah 11
    Isaiah 11:6 should say 'Lion and Lamb' NOT wolf and other changes are also in this book changed by satan it is not the Books of our Lord any more. For those whom want to rebuke or argue about this ......, well I'm sorry you are blinded. For the rest of those seeing this watch for the many changes and follow your heart with a lot of prayers to our Lord for His truth already in your heart. The famine is here, the famine for His Word. Amen
  • Jerry Hendrix on 1 Corinthians 11:30
    "Not discerning the Lord's body"not understanding his body was given for phsycal

    healing.Resulting in many being sick and some dead.

    Two verses on judging, chasning, and condemning and two verses on how to avoid

    Them. These verses have nothing to do with the Lord's supper observance and all to

    do with the love feast that happens before the Lord's supper. Note vs. 34 repeats part

    Of vs.22..'

    His blood was given for our redemption his body in part for our physical bodies.

    By His stripes we are healed spiritually and physicaly..
  • Charlie on Ezekiel 20:25
    the sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath. Mark 2-27, Colossians 2-16 let no man

    therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or in respect of an holyday or of the new moon or of

    the sabbath days. the sabbath for the born again christian is everyday. the early church worshipped

    the first day of the week or sunday.keeping the sabbath does not save from hell jesus saves from

    hell if you are a sda it is false cult denying hell and after death, and it is a works based cult founded

    by ellen g white who was a plagarist.Acts 4-12 salvation is found in no other name there is no other name

    given among men which we must be saved.
  • Rob - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Romans chapter 7 1,2,3

    Not chapter 6
  • Rob - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    God hates divorce , so it should be avoided as much as possible . But it's not a sin in some cases . But in some it may be .

    Remarriage is Adultery , unless the spouse dies , it's the law of marriage see Romans ch 6 .

    It could make a person single if the other person leaves . No remarriage . That's adultery.

    Today people divorce and remarry like buying a new home . It's wrong .
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on Romans 9
    Alex you make an outstanding point."Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:" We have religious leaders in America that Israel identifies with. It amazes me that church leaders identify with an Israel that still does not except Jesus as the Messiah. Let alone the son of God! Even Christianity!There is a movement to go to a monotheistic God. Teaching that God can exist without the Christ, therefore without the h.g.. You cannot be born again without excepting the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. If baptism were not necessary, Christ would have not done it. There is an unspoken evil doctrine, if you worship the Father , you don't need the Son. This doctrine comes strait from hell itself. This in essence, deletes the new testament in His blood! The new covenant is become the promise of a savior who has not yet come. Last days many shall be deceived! This new doctrine is designed to bring peace! A belief that as long as I believe in a god I will be excepted before God. It doesn't matter who god is, as long as I'm good I will be excepted by God!
  • Shannon Randall on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Is there a passage in the New Testament that speaks to man's need for hierarchy in a congregation, or "branches" or "campuses" of a congregation being established?
  • Joshua on Leviticus 19:33
    "But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you AS ONE BORN AMONG YOU, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God." Leviticus 19:34

    "Moreover concerning a stranger, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country FOR THY NAME'S SAKE;

    (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy stretched out arm;) when he shall come and pray toward this house;

    Hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for: that all people of the earth may know thy name, to fear thee, as do thy people Israel; and that they may know that this house, which I have builded, is called by thy name." 1 Kings 8:41-43
  • Alice Smiley - in Reply on Revelation 13
    Thank you all so much for responding about the true body of Christ. I believe the same as you said. My spouse follows another who claimed the church was an actual property.

    Another question please.
  • Will you go to hell for having a divorce?
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Genesis 1
    I believe it was Mishael that I saw put his thought of who "us" and "our" is. As I agree. I believe this would pertain to the Father, the Word(who became flesh and dwelt among us or Jesus Christ), and the Holy Ghost. As you have God(the Father) creating the Heaven and Earth in Genesis 1:1. Then the Holy Spirit of God moving upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2. Then God spake all things into existence with his Word through the rest of Genesis 1.

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." The "Godhead".

    Hope this helps some. God Bless.
  • Jayden Fulkerson Home Bible Study Teacher - in Reply on Revelation 6:13
  • Jayden Fulkerson Home Bible Study Teacher - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Jesus and God are the same person. The discussion in Genesis 1:26 is God (or Jesus) talking to himself. To better understand read the next verse (Genesis 1:27) Hopefully that makes since.
  • Rob - in Reply on Genesis 1
    I heard some one talk about this a while ago you need to go to the original language , it's not as it seems in English .

    Also you can not read into the scriptures something it's not saying . Often when scriptures are silent or vague it's because it's not really essential to know . Forcing the word to say something it's clearly not is called reading into the scriptures and it's sinful to do that because then it would be adding to the word of God . Revelation warns about adding and taking away from the word .
  • Myretha Davis on 1 Peter 1
    How do the following Scriptures add to your understanding of what Jesus Meant?
  • Myretha Davis on John 18
    In John 18: 36 and Romans 14: 17, In these two chapters How was Jesus's kingdom different from what the Jews were envisioning?
  • Robert Hanna - in Reply on Genesis 1
    I'm trying to figure out who the 'we' and 'our' is. Is it Jesus and God?
  • Rob on James 2
    James ch 2 v 19

    Thou believeth there is one God ; thou doest well : the devils also believe and tremble .

    7 times devils spoke to Jesus and called him " Son of God " never God , but they know there is only One God according to James .

    Matthew 4.3

    Matthew 4.6

    Matthew.29

    Luke 4.3

    Luke4.9

    Luke4.41

    Luke8.28

    They know the truth , but do it not .

    The point is that works of faith are what's really important, and it's our works and all men's works that are going to be judged not what we believe alone .

    We can do nothing apart from Jesus the Son of God born in Bethlehem died on the cross for the sins of the world , raised up 3 days later seen alive by more than 500 people, taken up into heaven and coming back again as he left but in Glory ... be ready ....
  • Donald on 1 Corinthians 10
    What does the Bible say about the day of worship and what is that day
  • Maureen Alber on Revelation 6:13
    The devil has whispered to me that women were a second thought of God. When a companion was not found among the animals, then God created Eve. Thus we are second and not as important as Adam. I know that is not true. How do I prove it scripturally?

    And why didn't God create them both at the same time? God is all wise so I know He had a reason.


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