Bible Discussion PAGE 178

  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Genesis 10
    In a recent conversation with a friend, I asked if she understood and could explain why keeping the Sabbath was so important to God, that He would even include it in the 10 Commandments.

    What is it about the Sabbath that means so much?
  • Shelia on 2 Corinthians 7:10
    Acts Chapter 2.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Matthew 24:29
    Hi Carlos,

    No apology needed. It just seemed sort of odd when I saw that because all your previous posts have all been very cordial. I have actually had that happen to one of my posts where things got added in that I did not type.

    I think the most important thing concerning the rapture is that we both agree that there will be a rapture. We don't have to agree with each other on the time.

    There are Pre/Mid/Post rapture believers and they all have scripture to back up why they take one of those three positions.

    Like I said to Bob, I don't have an issue with whatever of the three positions someone chooses to take.
  • Bree - in Reply on Revelation 7
    Thank you for breaking this down i just had someone tell me that i needed to know what gate i was going in because if i wasn't in the 144,000 i wasn't one of Gods chosen to make it to heaven no matter if i repented and turned away from my sins and was living a Christ like life. I was very puzzled like why growing up in church i was taught that if you live faithful and serve God without sin that I will make it to heaven when he returns to receive his bride the church. I was very lost and confused but your comment cleared up my confusion. Thank you
  • Jesse - in Reply on Matthew 24:29
    Hi Bob,

    Why is the rapture a hotly contested thing? That is a great question Bob. We could also ask why do we disagree on anything the Bible has to say? Believers disagree on all sorts of things that the Bible teaches.

    I think disagreements become hotly contested when those in disagreement with each other take the attitude of "I'm right, and you're wrong." It's called human pride. We take our understanding of scripture and we turn ourselves into "Bible scholars." You know, it's like the "Thus saith Jesse," or "Thus saith Bob" approach.

    I think another reason why believers disagree with each other so often is because we study our English bibles, and English is such a general language, much like Hebrew.

    We can come away with multiple meanings on what the English text is saying because there are multiple meanings to English words. Honestly, I think that's why we have so many denominational churches out there. It's because people can't agree on what the English text is saying.

    I think it was God's design that our New Testament be originally written in Greek. Greek is the most exact language there is, and you don't come away with multiple meanings on what the text is saying like we do with the English.

    Anyways, that's my thoughts on your question.

    I am curious though. If the Tribulation period comes in our lifetime, what will your role be during those 7 years? I don't think it will be to spread the gospel. God already has a plan for that. What will be your function on this earth when God's wrath is being poured out?
  • Robin Stewart on Deuteronomy 22
    I asked God to prove to me, it was His will for me not to wear pants. He did. When I first started wearing only skirts and dresses, woman noticed and started commenting on it. Most were somehow offended by it. Some pressed me to stop. Some were convicted by it but it was the response of the men which convinced me the most. Men, young, old and in between started being more respectful towards me. One young man, littered with tattoos, came back and opened the door for me at a store with a perplexed look on his face. He seem confused about doing it. He let it shut on the woman behind me. God showed me it was for my protection and worth. It is a testimony to the world; a blessing to me.
  • Bob on Psalms 1
    I have always considered Psalms 1 great instruction to live by , I'm most impressed with the first word " Blessed " if we are doing it right we are truly blessed .

    Also the unGodly can not give good advice . Ask God for wisdom , it's found through out the Bible ...
  • Robin Stewart on Deuteronomy 22
    I challenge the women to do what I did when this scripture got on my mind. I wore pants just like every other Christian woman I knew. Then one day this came up in a Sunday School lesson. I read it and thought about it. I did not want to be disgusting to God or for Him to hate what I wore. I loved Him and wanted to be pleasing to him but I did not want to give up my pants. So I was honest with Him, after all, He knows what we are thinking. I said, I want to be pleasing to you but I don't want to stop wearing pants. I told Him, if you want me to stop wearing them, make me, help me to want to, you need to convict me. It took time. I felt pressed to test it. The results were amazing.
  • Amy Springstead - in Reply on Genesis 1:1
    Just like when you write an essay, the first paragraph is a summary and what follows is more detail of what your subject matter is.
  • Amy Springstead on Genesis 1:1
    It seems to me that in chapter 1, YHWH is giving a summary of all things He created. Then in chapter 2, He retells the story with more specifics and detail. Eve is the one who was created to be with Adam, but YHWH goes into more detail about how she was created in chapter 2. There is no Lilith.
  • Robin Stewart - in Reply on Deuteronomy 22:5
    You are right. God gives us the Word to make our lives better not worse. By making our own rules and deciding we know best......well the results are not pretty. It is all about trust and obedience. You can trust Him to know what is best for you, because HE designed you OR you can trust in what you think is right. What does scripture say. Proverbs 16:25. For those of you who are reading this thread, look this scripture up.
  • Robin Stewart - in Reply on Deuteronomy 22:5
    Amen! What you said is truth!
  • Queen bb on Exodus 20
    i like the first and fifth commandment and you should too and this will make you live a everlasting life
  • FAYE - in Reply
    I had breast cancer in 2013 now i am cancer free for 6 yrs.
  • Queen bb on Exodus 20:23
    this has the ten commandments and it is very good that we have it, it is so amazing that we have them that god made it with his own finger and how it was in a stone it is so overwhelming that is why i love my god he can impossible things that nobody else can do in this world
  • Etta - in Reply on Genesis 10
    I've enjoyed these discussions too, in fact I find myself staying up much later than I should, just to get on an interesting topic.

    The original discussion post was NOT "Confused", though, that one caught my eye, because nothing in this world is more important than making sure their right with the Lord, because we as believers, already know, 'God is NOT the author of confusion but of peace' 1 Corinthians 13:33... but the original text was from Patricia

    [I think we all .Is the boat when it comes to the bible. Instead of bickering back and to, accept by faith that every word is true. Nothing in this world matters but the fact that our almighty GOD sent his only begotten SON into this world to die for sinners of which everyone is, because in Genesis when Adam disobeyed GOD it made all sinners. There is still sinners so as GOD'S people we should be.]

    Though true, not sure what that had to do with Genesis 10

    As for whether it's a salvation issue, or a theological issue the bottom line for me is this: 1) Genesis 10 talks about the generations, (genealogy) of the sons of Noah not only as God's Written Word, but a historical document one can trust. 2) A reference guide.

    Though I appreciate reading from those much more knowledgeable then I, I believe, this is the original meaning of this text, nothing hidden, it's just like it says.
  • Queen bb on Exodus 20:23
    we need the commandments in our lives and we need to follow them to have everlasting life.
  • Cynthia Nelson on Romans 13:4
    I been giving three sentyse smells in different times and I am trying to understand what the Lord is trying to tell me. The smells fresh water, fresh dirt , honey suckle flowers
  • Robert Byrd - in Reply on Jude 1:6
    Frederick, Jude here refers to a group of 200 angels who descended upon Mt. Hermon and took an oath between themselves, to defile humanity. Perhaps as part of Satan's attempt to foil GOD's plan of redemption.

    They agreed to intermingle with women which resulted in the nephillim. This is what the spirit means when it refers to the "mighty men of old, men of reknown" mentioned in Genesis 6. The nephillim were 1/2 Man, 1/2 angel and were humongous and great in strength and became well known for their exploits. GOD put enmity between them and they set themselves against each other until they were all dead. All the greek "gods" and the titans were actually these nephillim.

    When the fallen angels appealed to GOD for mercy HE sent Michael to place them in iron fetters and then placed them in Tartarus, the land of shadow, which we know also as the bottomless pit. They are there now awaiting judgment.

    Jude here refers to them as examples of of the consequences of indulging the flesh and its lustful desires and willfully disobeying GOD.
  • Dave on Romans 13:4
    Does God hear and answer prayers of the unsaved ?
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Genesis 10
    Chris, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Wish everyone in the Christian world shared your perspective and attitude. I guess I wasn't as clear as I should have been and I might not even have a good grasp of what I am trying to say. But let me try to explain.

    In 2Peter3:16 we are warned to be attentive, because some usurp Scripture to their destruction. Paul in 1Cor11:16 also cautions us of excesses. But there are those that have created insulated cultures based on strict enforcement of unnecessary rules and conditions. Sometimes we refer to these as cults, but they are also found among denominations. They emphasize duties, that when violated, lead to losing salvation. Sabbath, Tithing, dress, works, adherence to OT restrictions, attending services 5 times a week. The list is endless. Pay attention to Galatians 2-4, 2:15-3:5, 3:28, 4:8-10. Shouldn't we live by our trust in Christ, instead of our list of do's and don'ts?

    That is not to say we shouldn't be organized and observe good conduct. But not as a basis for salvation.
  • Frans Scheepers on 2 Chronicles 16:9
    I'm Frans, in my work with the Lord sometimes I feel lonely and weak and than suddenly He suprising me by come and bring his wisdom and knowledge to just carry on. He supports me ...all the way.
  • Julie on Zechariah 4:10
    I am not sure why this phrase is here, "Despise not the day of small things....."
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Revelation 14
    Jesus is Lord!
  • Jean on 1 Timothy 5:8
    Thank you! I love this commentary and responses. Many times a wife has had to deal with many issues surrounding this scripture as husbands placed as the head with the responsibility of providing and protecting. The help mate has many times been a great support to the head and has been severely and financially abused in the role reversal because the head is not providing.

    An infidel indeed, Sometimes that head is a teacher/pastor who is so engulfed in the church they forget about home. Can we say they are so busy taking care of Gods bride they forget their own...

    For those out there who are Bible quoting Christians professing the gospel that don't live it. James 3:1 says you will be held at even a higher strictness.

    Can we explore James 3:1 please?
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - in Reply on Revelation 14
    Chris and Bethany, I hope I do the Christian Faith justice with my comments. There are so many differing points of view on so many things. Am I far off when I say there are insulated Christian Cultures that base their existence on rules of their making, by emphasizing vague passages in the Bible to justify their control? Take the Amish and Quakers. Isn't that a glaring example of what I mean? Or Adventists. Good people all of them, but from my perspective, they have issues. Of course, there are also JW, Mormons and others most might not even think of as Christians. But then there are those within mainstream denominations that insist certain things must be done a certain way or else, you are not saved.

    The way women dress is particularly emphasized in many groups. My aunt, for example, was told to leave the church because she cut and colored her hair. Some say it is a must to observe the Sabbath, but all they do is have their Sunday Service on Saturday. They don't really observe all the rules attached to keeping the Sabbath. They can't. Others claim you must not eat meat, drink coffee, beer, or smoke. Mormons won't even drink Coca Cola. I could never be a Mormon just based on that one rule. Others won't accept gays in their congregations, but will allow adulterers and hypocrites to preach a Sunday sermon or lead the Choir. This, by the way, is not a list of complaints. They are just my observations.

    My message is that we tend to focus on the petty and inconsequential and miss the real meaty stuff. So what should we be focused on? The Gospel. Joy, not reprisal. Appreciation of others, in spite of their shortcomings. And the fact that we must prepare for the End Times. Are most Christians prepared for persecution? What will we do when churches are forced to close? Or when we have to meet in secret? And when killing Christians becomes the norm? When we can't shop? Are we prepared? Jesus warned us in Matt25. Be prepared. Will the AntiChrist be the Muslim Mehdi?
  • Alex on Revelation 14
    comments on Matthew 13 kjv Jesus tells us this parable of the Sower and his seed is the greatest parable, the most important that we understand. He said know ye not this parable HOW then will you KNOW ALL PARABLES. The parable of the sower is about being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the Word of GOD. Ya have to see it as the seed of the bridegroom sown in our hearts then ya see the CHILDREN of the kingdom, the son of man, mankinds fruit unto God via the good seed the words of the new covenant that God wants to sow in our hearts.I will put my words/seed in their hearts and minds, I will Know them ALL from the least to the greatest impling a heavenly birth via his seed etc. Jesus said that this seed is gonna result in a child in us th good seed are th children of the kingdom not a flesh and blood child but a spritual Child that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the Child the H.G. ( That which is born of the spirit is the H.G. ) 1 st comes the child, 30 then the son, 60 then the fullness of the son in the GODHEAD 100 % KINGDOM IN THE SPIRIT. That new born that desires the sincere milk of the WORD is the H.G. our new innerman that new creature that has to be born in us via HIS HEAVENLY SEED th WORD, Jesus came forth as 1st a child 30 then the son 60 then the fulness of God in the son 100 % KINGDOM OF GOD came unto us as a seed sown in MARYS WOMB.But now its our hearts that is the womb where that good seed is gona be sown resulting in a birth of Christ in us.My lil children of whom travail in birth till Christ is formed in you,that good seed is gona form a baby king in US which is the H.G. Thats y the woman is giving birth she heard the word that good seed and kept it resulting in a birth and this is the best example of FAITH when a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen th child ( the H.G. ) in our case, B/C i have spoken these words/seeds sorrows have filled your hearts a pregnancy a CHILD. GB
  • Obbie Beal on Luke 2
    11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a SAVIOUR, which is CHRIST the LORD.

    Note: This SAVIOR /CHRIST the LORD is born and HE shall establish SALVATION for all of us /mankind. Through CHRIST (see John 3:16-21) the opportunity to be SAVED is made available to all, thereby we can rightly return to JEHOVAH /GOD and avoid Revelation 20:15.
  • Kathy - in Reply on Philippians 1:6
    Hi, I am so blessed to hear your son is now serving the Lord! My son is now in about the same situation. He was near death's door because of his past drug use and present drinking. I am praying God will be gracious to him one more time and he will repent and turn to the Lord. I believe the seed of faith was planted in him and this situation is the way the Lord will return my son to himself.
  • Stephen Botts - in Reply on Psalms 144
    Amen! That is exactly right!


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