Bible Discussion PAGE 172

  • Claire - in Reply on Revelation 12
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    Hi again Chris,

    Thank you for your continued support & advice. Yes, that was the verse I was referring to, So if we have to be born again first, then how would we know when we've born again ?

    I have a couple of testimonies, but my younger pastor says that they are not sufficient for being baptised, So at this point I'm unsure what he wants from me.

    1st testimony

    I had depression & anxiety & it got to the point were I didn't want to wake up anymore. This night I woke up from a nightmare sobbing & asked God to give me peace & within a couple of mins I felt peace & contentment & was able to go back to sleep. (Praise God !!!)

    2nd testimony

    I was in a carpet shop with my mum for the 2nd time as we had been a few weeks earlier. Before we went in I said to my mum, I'm not going to mention the price that he gave me last time & see what price he says this time because I thought it was expensive last time, so tried another shop which was more expensive. Last time the carpet that I wanted was 10 per sq meter. The guy asked me if he had given me price last time & I said no. Then my mum turned round & said yes !!! (Did my mum honestly just say that & make me look & feel like a complete idiot !!!) I immediately felt condemned for lying & couldn't wait to get out of the shop, so that I could repent & ask for God's forgiveness, but I had to endure this shame for longer whilst he looked at the price & said this is not right. He said that he had made a mistake & that the carpet was 12 per sq meter. I just felt like he was just trying to take advantage me, so I said I'd let him know. I wasn't able to repent for a few hours later because my mum came back to mine for her tea as usual, but I finally repented & felt relieved. (Praise God !!!) I have just had my carpets fitted by another shop for 5 per sq meter, so I didn't have to go back to that other shop. (Praise God !!!) God is good !!!

    God bless you & your family.

    Kind Regards

  • Lester Chambers - in Reply on Proverbs 3
    when I ask a question how long do it take to get an answer?
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Heavenly Father, I pray that you will cover this problem with your loving hand. While my mind is confused and struggles to find the right path, I know that you can heal any situation. Bring your peace and hope to my life. Hold me close to you so that my heart and mind may be kept safe. I pray that you will use the power of your truth to transform any darkness into your love and light. You are my fortress and my place of refuge. In times of difficulties, I turn to you for protection from harm. Thank you for protecting me and giving me all of my blessings in life; and setting the captives free. Amen.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 5
    We're not given any details after the Ark finally rested on dry land & the Covenant God made between Him & all generations issuing from his sons (i.e. to set a rainbow in the sky as His promise never to destroy the Earth with a flood).

    We do know that Noah & his wife looked after some land, planting a vineyard (Genesis 9:20) & eventually he died at 950 yrs of age (verse 29). He would have been over 500 yrs old when the Ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat, so was still in his 'prime' though we don't know of his wife's state. Since the Bible only speaks of the Earth being populated through his sons (verse 19), we have to assume that these boys were all he had, for if there were any more sons, then we might well have races that are separate to what is revealed. Maybe he had daughters.
  • Chris - in Reply on Mark 4
    Mark 4:35-41. It is a known fact that sometimes storms can suddenly start up on the Sea of Galilee so this occasion was no exception. However, you might be meaning: if Jesus was on the boat, then why should an afflicting storm arise? Jesus, of course has full authority over the wind & the waves, so He could have made sure that they didn't arise while He was out there with His disciples.

    Since we're not given the exact answer to this, I see a couple of choices: storms don't matter to Jesus - He is Lord over all, so in the midst of anything 'dangerous', nothing can rob Jesus of His Peace & Power. Secondly, He could have allowed the storm to arise so that his 'faithless' disciples could have a further witness of Who He was & also learn a great lesson of faith - a faith that we today even need to have as we go through the 'storms' of life. We all have difficulties, the apostles more so, but by faith we take hold of God's Hand so we can ride out the storms.
  • Sonya Mesh - in Reply on James 2
    Exactly, one can not just believe for salvation. That is a demonic religion.

    We must Hear the word of God Roman's 10:17, Believe it John 8 :24, Repent Luke 13:3, Confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, Matthew 10:32-33, Be baptized fir the remission of our sins, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:6, and live faithful and obedient. Matthew 10:22, Revelation 2:10.
  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 6:18
    Irene, can you clarify that word "showing"? It doesn't appear in the Bible.
  • Sonya Mesh - in Reply on Galatians 5
    Amen to that
  • Mishael - in Reply on Revelation 12
    See an Endocrinologist who specializes in what you have. Can check hormones and reasons for low energy. Eat because only you can keep your nutrition level up. Sleep so your immune can repair itself; take walks in full sunshine.

    I agree with you that God will oversee and undertake in the return of your health. Cast all your cares and concerns upon Jesus. I pray that your faith in Him to heal, will not be shaken. Start praising Him and give thanksgiving for your help. Many healing scriptures in Proverbs. Speak them out, so your eye gate, ear gate and mouth gate will help your faith be stronger.

    Have faith in God. Praise Jesus for delivering you. A merry heart doeth good like a medicine. When doubts attack you; bind the spirit of Infirmity and send it into outer darkness in Jesus's Name

    Less tv and more Bible reading. ;)

    Jesus loves you and so do I.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 12
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    Holding resentments & grudges can be quite a stumbling block in a believers' life of victory. It can only be the Spirit's Work that will help you & heal you in this matter. Have your Dad's girlfriend & daughter hurt you in some way, or is it just their relationship that has brought your resenting them? If they have hurt you, the first step to healing is to let them know your pain & to clearly tell them that because of Christ's love in you, you forgive them for what they've done to you. Then bring the matter to the Lord & allow His Spirit to cleanse you & to work in you to truly forgive them & accept them. To play 'happy families' when you have anger in your heart is hypocrisy & detrimental to you & they too will see it. But if anger lingers in you, you cannot move forward spiritually as it will always be an impenetrable wall in your relationship with God.

    All this takes time, even by being incommunicado with them for a while, till you accept them & see them as how God sees them: in love & mercy as to those who are without God's love & hope for eternal life. Remember that any unconfessed or harboured sin will always be an impediment in a believer's life; the Christian adage: "always keep short accounts with God" should be uppermost in our minds.
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Page 1.

    Hi again Claire. Thank you for reading that lengthy sermon - it was heavy going. I had to re-read it quickly to find the portion I think you're referring to. The part that seemed significant is:

    "God cannot write his law in our inward parts till with water and with blood he has purged us. Tables on which the Lord shall write must be clean, therefore the heart on which God is to engrave his law must be a cleansed heart; and it is a great joy to perceive that from the person of our Lord heart-cleansing blood and water flowed, so that the provision is equal to the necessity. Blessed be the name of our gracious God, he knows how to erase the evil and to cleanse the soul through his Holy Spirit's applying the work of Jesus to us."

    If this is the portion, then I don't believe Spurgeon is referring to water baptism or the requirement to be baptised first & then born again - that would be totally erroneous. His mentioning "water & blood" is his direct reference to 1 John 5:6, 7: "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    There have been several interpretations of this "by water & blood". I feel it indicates Jesus' physical birth (water) & He speaks of this in John 3:5 & then the "blood": of His Sacrifice. Or, Spurgeon could even be recalling the water & blood that issued out of the Lord whilst on the Cross (John 19:34). We're unclear but it wasn't anything to do with water baptism which can only be taken after first being born again by faith in Jesus's Sacrifice & the indwelling & renewal of the Holy Spirit.
  • Richard on 1 Corinthians 2
    Jesus told Peter he would suffer the same death he did.


    Where in the King James Bible does it read in full or in part where Peter stated, " I'm not worthy to suffer the same crucifixion as Christ?"
  • Mishael on Genesis 5
    God the Father

    Jesus the Son of God, and the Son of Man

    The Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Christ. The 3rd Person of the Godhead.
  • Tim on Matthew 2
    In Judaism and the Old Testament there are Nazarites. The Nazarites followed very strict interpretation of Jewish Law which included not drinking wine or grapes amoung others. Could the place of Nazareth be confused in interpretation to being a Nazarite?
  • SPIN THEORIES - in Reply on 1 John 5
    It's not a doctrine! It's in scripture all over the Bible. It's a fact that you refuse to perceive rightly.

    It means loss of rewards at the Bema Seat Judgment Of Christ Jesus, when All Christians works will pass through fire.

    If you have caused baby Christians to fall away from believing that every word on the Bible is rock solid, you may face loss of reward.

    We need to be aware this. Commenting is to shed Light...not darkness on Truth: who is a Person, Jesus. It is NOT about spinning a new way to see a foundational truth.

    For what reason would we spin controversy that may cause a baby lamb or sheep to fall away? Nothing can be added to, or taken away from what is written and recorded in the Bible.

    Jesus said, I and my Father are one and the same; several times, in the Bible. PERIOD.

    In no way do I approve what other people add or subtract from that statement. I hope someday you will realize that the one reason for denying Truth, to teach others another way; is PRIDE. Something that God hates.

  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on 1 John 5
    Well, you're calling things in the Bible blasphemous. We're not making this up. No one, not me anyway, is reducing God from being the Father or the Most High. Even Jesus Christ states several times that the Father is greater than Him. Christ is still the Messiah who existed before the earth was created.

    I don't judge or condemn anyone for anything. God is our Eternal Father and I build upon the foundation of Jesus Christ is Lord.

    I prayed to God for over twenty years. Not believing in Jesus Christ. No prayers got answered. Once I accepted Jesus Christ everything changed. Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father.

    God Bless you.
  • Richard on 1 Corinthians 2:2
    Peter said he's not worthy to suffer the same crucifixion as Jesus.

    Where in scripture is that reference made in the King James Bible
  • Tim on Matthew 1
    The lineage used by the Jewish people are from the mother's side. Yet Matthew is using lineage from the Father's side. Why did he not use thelineage from the mother's side which would be Mary?
  • Is God a being, or a conscience state of mind
  • David W Black - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Hi again, Nathan. I am only taking the same hard line Christ Himself taught. There are quite a few differences in salvation from the Old vs New Testament times. OT animal sacrifices to appease God which was counted as salvation, according to the ceremonial law of Moses. These ceremonies can be seen described in Deuteronomy, Exodus for example. This tabernacle and ceremonial way was a type of the salvation Christ offers and for what He died on the cross to pay for. But there are differences. OT required atonement for sins yearly. NT if you repent your sins then you are saved from those sins in power over sin, in removing the penalty of sins committed, along with removing the guilt of sins of the past. Note again I do not mention sins of the present when regarding salvation, because God requires you to sin no more after salvation. If you sin presently but after salvation, you have backslid and are plunged back into sin. 2 Pt 2:22 gives an apt description, dogs turned to his own vomit again or sow that was washed returning to wallowing in mire. So too there are not future sins. You can't be saved from something you have yet to commit but plan on later. I know there's 2 works to obtain full salvation, repentance to salvation and sanctification of spirit. You can disagree if you so choose, but what I stated is correct. Not because I say it, but because it is what the Bible teaches.

    It would be great if we all made Heaven our home. God still has rules and those that obey will make it to Heaven. Those that reject the truth do not make it. We can choose to obey or not. We choose to believe the Bible or not. The Bible still says there's a Heaven and a Hell as places for spending eternity. Heaven for the ones that love and obey God and His Word and have been saved from sin. Hell is for all that reject His truths and die an unrepentant sinner. The kingdom of God includes all that are freed from sin, and excludes all that still sin against God. Sin is a willfully disobedience.
  • Marjorie Hodges - in Reply on Matthew 22
    I believe Matthew the 24th chapter is miss understood some say some of the words in this chapter ex go on the roof ? that chapter is about the destruction of Jerusalum
  • Chris - in Reply on Song of Solomon 4
    Thank you for the Truths you've given proving that Jesus is the Son of God. I have never disagreed with you on those Scriptures showing Jesus as God's Son. Yet you choose to avoid or reject clear Scriptures declaring Him to be part of the Eternal Godhead.

    I'm not in opposition - you are by not wishing to expound John 1:1-14 as suggested. Therein lies a clear declaration of who Jesus is pre-incarnate & needs to be accepted as given. To deny the Word coming in the flesh as Jesus, is to deny the true God-head & brings to us that a clear warning that deception lies before us (1 John 4:1-3).
  • Rob on 1 John 1
    This chapter the disciples learned the scriptures taught be Jesus things even the prophets did not know .

    How could that be ?

    Jesus being born of God was one with God more then any of us know , because his relationship was never interrupted by sin from the womb of Mary .

    Yes only He had this , even John the Baptist the greatest of all apostles said He was not worthy to undo his Shoe laces ! Wow do you get it ?

    The in verse 3 they stated that our fellowship is with the Father and son .

    Jesus being one with God by perfect living his whole life not only demonstrated but also could teach the way of God by his genuine experience. God testified that Jesus well pleased him , yes his Son Jesus .

    Jesus was able to reveal God like no other , because he was born of God . With a mission to save the world .

    That takes a lot of God to do that , and he did it . any wonder why he is now at the fathers right hand ?

    He was not there before but he is now at Gods right hand , because he deserves it . And it's all Gods sovereign plan . Jesus said not my will but your will be done to his father

    when faced with the most difficult task ! Wow even brave Peter denied him and ran away !

    Yes Jesus revealed the life of God and so much more , to them so they write in 1 John .

    Spiritual life in God . And Jesus is the true leader and did it all perfectly.

    There is so much more that could be said but it's longer than I like already .
  • Rob on John 5:39
    John 5 v 36 , 37, 38 , 39 ...
  • Irene Reilly on Deuteronomy 6:18
    I am also confused with the word showing???
  • Nathan Unger - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Revelation 13:8 would cast great doubt on the notion that O.T. Saints were saved in a way other than we are and would cause me to re-examine my beliefs on why King David asked God to cleans him from secret faults.

    "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

    Again. Just saying.

  • Rob - in Reply on Song of Solomon 4
    Yet you refuse to except the Fathers Gods witness and you want me to correct your confusion! I shown more truth to you than most people get in a life time and you still or in opposition! I get it ....
  • Richard in Christ on Deuteronomy 6:18
    To Claire,

    Hopefully I will not receive much rebuke for this but this is only for your help. As it is the truth. I was baptized with water when a baby but of coarse then lived a pretty aberrant lifestyle. It was just last year when I was lead to Jesus Christ. Passionately giving myself to Jesus Christ and inviting Him into my heart along with praising Him and confessing how sorry I was for not believing in Him for so long. Just always believing in other people instead of reading the Bible for myself.

    It was only after about a week of praising Him and telling Him how sorry I was from the heart that something astounding happened to me. Surround Jesus Christ. Since then many marvelous things have occurred to me. Even having to battle satan as he tempted me to keep doing things that were not ok with God. Not even knowing it at the time.

    The main thing I wanted to state is that I have never been baptized with water again since I was a baby. The Holy Spirit is in me and the relationship I have with our Father in Heaven is glorious. Jesus Christ will baptize you with the Holy Spirit when He knows it is time. You may already have the Holy Spirit in you and just not know it yet.

    Please no one take this the wrong way and think I have anything against getting a water baptism. I am only saying this because of truth, experience, and the Holy Spirit wanted me to post this for you. It is always going to be hard while we are still here in earth and no one should think it is going to get easier. Keep fighting satan and sin, keep praying from the heart, and do your best to follow in the foot steps of Jesus Christ.

    With the one problem you have about unforgiveness. I know it's hard. We all have problems. Just ask yourself "do I want God to forgive all my sins?" I'm sure you do so just forgive no matter what. This doesn't mean things people do to you, or others, are ok or right. Just let God be the Judge. As Jesus Christ did. 1 Peter 20-25.

    You are in my prayers sister.

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