Bible Discussion PAGE 167

  • Angela - in Reply on John 11
    I have loved the Lord since I was a small child. But, I have always weighed back & forth with myself, what happens when we die! Do we go to God right then, or will we be raised when He comes back? We've even debated about it in my family. Yes, Jesus told the man next to Him when they were on the cross, "You will be in paradise with me today." But the bible also states, "Absent from the body is present with the Lord." Recently, I have also read an article online that said's it will be one way if you are saved, and a different way if you are not! What do you think & why?
  • Chris - in Reply on Matthew 24:38
    Carlos, since you addressed your recent comment to 'Everyone else', I thought to reply.

    "Archaeological records do show pre-historic people were religious". I think you're implying that there were humans/humanoids prior to Adam & Eve, if I am reading that paragraph correctly. So I can't comment on this, because of my different understanding of the Genesis account.

    "Why is it Christ only showed Himself to a select group, after His Resurrection? Why not go public? Why didn't anyone recognize Him?" He had a short time between His Resurrection & His Ascension & needed to spend it with His disciples, if for nothing else, to convince them that it was indeed Him (Luke 24). I wonder then, how would the public have reacted to His reappearance? Also with disbelief? A madman? Why bother with them, His disciples were His sole Focus at this interim period & to also be there to see His Ascension.

    "Why did God speak in Parables and not plainly?" I don't believe the answer you gave is correct. Jesus qualified His use of parables in Matthew 13:10,11, that He would explain the parables to His disciples, but they would just be stories to the rest.

    "Satan enticed Adam and Eve by appealing to their curiosity about things they didn't know about God and the universe." That's not how I read it. Adam & Eve didn't express curiosity about God or the universe. They were simply enjoying their being & God's creation around them. Satan came to put a doubt in their mind (Genesis 3:1); they retorted correctly; Satan then gave them his convincing reason that they wouldn't die, but would make them 'wise'; they were convinced.

    Thanks again Carlos, as I said, I only reply as you've sent your comment to all of us. And knowing the points that we disagree on, I feel that comment is required, not just as an 'attack' on your views, but to present what I believe is the correct, logical argument against it.
  • Mishael On 1 Corinthians 15 on Matthew 4:23
    I don't remember from everybody's studies on Adam and Eve; There's been so many.

    This chapter is on first Adam and 2nd Adam. Some mentions to the Caught Up.

    I will make notes on it tomorrow. For one chapter it's really full. I want to know your thoughts too.
  • Angela - in Reply on John 11
    Eric,

    It doesn't have to be out of your hands when you die!

    That's what it is to be a Christian! Choosing God while are soul's are in this human, worldly body. Then when we die, our soul will go to Him. He said's that "Absent from the body, is present with the Lord! Did you know that if you choose to live for Him here, that Judgement Day is nothing to fear! Did you know that if you are saved, He will be giving you your rewards that day!I have been through so, so much! For years I wasn't living right, and it always led to bad, serious, & tragic things happening to me. I felt alone, rejected, and not loved right! Alot of anger and hurt will lead to anxiety & depression! It can also lead to thoughts of suicide! Eric, God is real I promise you! I can tell you stories of when He has shown Himself in my life!
  • James brooks on Matthew 24:38
    Hey Chris;keep up the good work.I want ask you something about why Jews and Gentiles have to respond to the finished work of JESUS on the cross? Can you add to something that,s finished?Did JESUS offer us anything by way of an option?YOU do this and I,ll save you;If you don,t you will be lost.No He obeyed His Father and did His Father,s will.HE was sent to save the the ones that The Father gave to Him before the foundation of the world.Ephesians 1:4&5.According as He has chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world,that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love.(v5)Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by JESUS CHRIST to Himself according to the good pleasure of His will.You can,t do not one single thing to earn your salvation.Response or no response;It, all GOD.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 1:25
    Peter, he most definitely hears your prayers, even if you (& so many others) pray on their own. The only requirement is to come in faith, believing you will receive, as you ask in God's Will. Where Jesus says that where two or three are gathered in My Name, He adds, that He will be in their midst (Matthew 18:20) certainly applied to his disciples as Jesus in His Power could meet with them in Spirit. However, we use this verse now for believers meeting together, & though in a sense correct, we know from Scripture, that Jesus has left this Earth & as God in the flesh, is seated at the Father's Right Hand, always interceding on our behalf. So Jesus physically can't be with us when we meet, but His Spirit, Whom He has sent to us, is with us & in us (John 14:17). In all this, we can truly rejoice that we are never alone & our prayers & praise are always heard.
  • Michael - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Mature. To grow up.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Peter 5:13
    Herman, there is no specific reference, whether biblical or secular, that Peter visited Rome. The only mention of Babylon in 1 Pet 5:13, which is sometimes interpreted as alluding to Rome, is somewhat weak.

    However, the question you ask, is often asked by those who attempt to disprove the papal line from Peter (i.e. since Peter wasn't in Rome, how could the papacy be established & proceed from there?). If that is your thought as well, I quickly refer to Matthew 16:18, which RCs will used to support Jesus direct instruction to Peter that he would be the foundation that His Church would be built upon.

    However, as you may know, that Jesus was using the meaning of Peter's name (Cephas/Petros = a rock), that he would in time be a solid, unshakeable witness for Jesus. Yet, Jesus said, that upon This Rock, he would build His Church. Was it on Peter? No. Jesus was speaking about Peter's great testimony, "And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." Matthew 16:16. Upon this Truth that Christ is indeed the Son of God (along with the Truths that follow such a declaration) & His Church will be distinct from any other so-called church, just based on this fact. There are 'churches' that deny the Deity of Christ & so their further teachings develop into false theology/christology, but the true Church will be based on this Rock of Truth & not on the papal line.
  • Chris - in Reply on Genesis 9:3
    Killing an animal is not a sin, as long as it is killed for food & not for sport or for a trophy. Animals, along with plants have been given to us by God for food. See Genesis 9:2, Exodus 12; John 21:12,13; Acts 10:9-15 are some examples.
  • Jesse - in Reply on Matthew 24:38
    Robert,

    Are you saying that believing in a Pre-Tribulation rapture can lead to a true genuine born again believer to lose their faith and their soul? These "Souls that were lost," were these saved people?
  • Jesse - in Reply on 1 Peter 5:13
    Herman,

    Historical accounts show that Peter died in Rome sometime around 66-67 A.D. Peter wrote his first letter around 63 A.D. right before his arrest in Rome. Peter wrote from Rome, but he used the cryptic name Babylon in his letter - I Peter 5:13. Peter wrote his second letter right before 67 A.D. as he wrote it right before his death. Nero, the Roman Emperor, died around 68 A.D. Nero had Peter put to death, so obviously Peter had to die before 68 A.D.

    Tradition tells us that Nero took Peter as the leader of the believers, spread wax on him, and was going to put him up on a pole because that was Nero's little hobby. He would round up the Christian leaders, wax them down, put them on a pole, and then light them on fire to light his garden at night.

    And so Nero came to Peter and said since you're the leader, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. Since your Savior was crucified, I'm going to crucify you instead. And it's recorded that Peter said I am not worthy to die like my Savior. If you're going to crucify me, crucify me upside down. So tradition says that Peter was crucified upside down in Nero's garden. That's about all the evidence I think we have. Peter was probably arrested while traveling through Rome on a missionary journey. There are groups today that claim that Peter was the first bishop of Rome. That claim is false.
  • Themis Koutras on Matthew 24:38
    4. Peter told Jesus he would lay down his life for Him but Jesus told him he would do what three times?

    Leave him

    Hate him

    Die with him

    Deny him < Your Choice < Correct Answer

    Explanation: Jesus tells Peter that before a cock crows, Peter will deny Him three times.

    Reference: John 13:38

    CORRECT!

    my comment

    here we find a interesting statement that peter said he will even die for the LORD he said this sometime before the above scripture Jesus SAID I tell you the truth before the cock Crows you would deny me 3 times but peter insisted that he will even die for him thus peter is not lying according to his knowledge JESUS HRIST did not say he is lying he is just pointing out that he is not ready to do that yet BECAUSE OF FEAR as we know in the bible Peter did love the lord more then all as we see peters journey latter he repents And JESUS strengthened him so as then later JESUS CHRIST gets him ready by many ways finally he says to him today you become a rock so on later on in history books concerning the saints PETER was now ready and actually was Crusified up side down for JESUS CHRIST and the Church because of his love for JESUS CHRIST now that he was strengthen by JESUS CHRIST to actually do what he said before not back then but latter on when he would be ready to do so as he was and did do what he said
  • Mishael on Genesis 1
    Friday there was a large earthquake in Nevada. Hundreds of aftershocks.

    A month ago, large quake in Idaho. Still having aftershocks.

    Yellowstone volcano is producing a ring of carbon monoxide.
  • Carol on Psalms 148:2
    Yes please can you tell me what this may mean? My brother died last year at a early age my mom died a month later I was so very sad. When they died I found two white feathers at my house. One actually stuck too my glasses a year later my only aunt died and I found a feather on my leather couch . I found another feather today on my bedroom floor and a month ago when I woke up one was on my dresser . Could this mean angels are near? I never got feathers in my house before I do not know how to explain this. He says he will cover you with his feathers in the bible . Can you tell me what this means please? I am a little confused about this can you help me please.

    Blessings,

    Carol
  • Jesse - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    No, Paul is not guilty of lying. Everything Paul taught lines up with the teachings of Christ. There is no contradiction between Paul's teachings and the teachings of Christ. If you take John 16:10 by itself, I can see how you would come to your conclusion. Jesus said in Verse 10, I go to my Father, and you see me no more. But you can't stop there and use that as your basis of claiming Paul is lying! Jesus was telling them that He would be leaving (His ascension into heaven, shortly after His resurrection), and they would no longer see Him here physically.

    But then you go down to Verse 16, and Jesus says, "A little while and ye shall not see me: and the term "a little while" means a short time of space. Jesus says, and again, a little while, and (ye shall see me), because I go to the Father. So what is He talking about there? A little while you won't see me, but then a little while after that you will see me? How do explain that one, because they're probably thinking "That doesn't make sense! We understand a little while you will not see me. You've been telling us that for three years. But now you are saying, in a little while and (you will see me) because I'm going to the Father. Well, if you are going away, how are we about ready to see you again?"

    Verse 17 would show you that they didn't understand what Jesus was telling them. They were discussing amongst themselves what this meant, and Jesus knew that, as we're told in Verse 19. And then you go down to Verse 22, and Jesus says And ye now, therefore, have sorrow: but (I will see you again), and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

    Jesus is talking about His coming to them in the person of the Holy Spirit that He has been talking to them about since Chapter 14, where He says the Comforter will come to you, I will come to you, the Father and I will come to you, and we all will make our dwelling in you!
  • Mishael - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    Galatians 1:1 says,

    Paul an apostle (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

    See ACTS chapter 9

    After Paul hit the ground; he said, Who art thou, LORD?

    The men traveling with Paul, heard an audible voice, but saw no man.

    Saul stands up, but now he is blind. He is blind 3 days and does not eat or drink.

    Keep reading; by verse 20 Paul is preaching Christ in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God.

    By verse 23, the Jews are plotting to kill Saul.

    We need the full account of Bible events without JUDGING them. Read the full account first; even the whole chapter.

    Paul was struck blind but he and some other guys ALL HEARD with their ears, the VOICE of the risen Christ. Paul was a chosen vessel. Verse 15-16 (written in the red ink)
  • Neville A Stewart on Genesis 1
    Judas - victim or vilain?
  • Chris - in Reply on Daniel 7
    Daniel chapter 7 prophecies speak of the various earthly kingdoms through the ages. I can't go into too much detail here: you should do further research. But here's a quick outline.

    1. v3: the four beasts that Daniel saw, were the four great kingdoms on Earth. The first was a lion with eagle's wings. This represented the Babylonian Empire, during which Daniel lived.

    2. v5: the second was a bear & this animal represented the Medo-Persian Empire which succeeded the Babylonian.

    3. v6: the third was a leopard with four wings & four heads. This represented the Greek Empire.

    4. vv7,8: the fourth beast was indescribable because of its ferocity. And this beast represented the Roman Empire.

    "The sea" may have been the Mediterranean Sea, to which all these Empires have some connection to. "The beast with the four wings & the four heads" = the Leopard. Alexander the Great speedily (= the wings) conquered the civilized world by the age of 28 from Illyricum to the River Ganges (= India). As well, after his death, his Empire was divided into four parts (= 4 heads): Asia Minor, Syria, Egypt & Macedonia.

    As you know, that all these Empires have come & gone according to prophecy, but there is something still remaining. Even though the Roman Empire has long gone, there are still ten horns from it that exist. We can't tell who these ten rulers are but appear to be some confederation of ten nations who will arise during the day of the Anti-Christ (= little horn, v8), who comes out of the ten nations. See Daniel 7:23-25 & Revelation 12:3. So there is still prophecy to be fulfilled & we need to be watching out for certain countries that will come to the forefront in preparation for their rebellion against God & His Christ.

    I hope this helps you in understanding this passage.
  • Jim on Psalms 55
    God will never give up on his people; we are selfish and wicked to the core, God have told his people over and over again through his prophets.too repent and and turn back from their wicked ways. That message still hold to this day. Repent and pray and turn back from our wicked way. Reference to Psalms 55
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:38
    Robert: you are a much better historian than I am. Basically I just sit with the Holy Spirit and read for hours; read all the reference notes and flip back and forth.

    Jesus was preaching to farmers, shepherds, fishermen, tax collectors, businessmen, religious people ... the communities. He used parables to identify them to Him.

    He taught by parables (stories with teaching); He dropped names From all through the Old Testament (Torah?)

    Things they were familiar with. Then he presented the Gospel to them.

    That's what I do mostly if I am speaking evangelically. Some things some of you say will go right over an unsaved persons, or a baby Christians heads. I once had a older brother in the Lord shout at me: quit messing with college material and get back on the milk of the Word!! That hit me in the gut. I was shot down and doubting. I had a dream that night of the Lords table. LOTS of people at that table! Foods of all kinds, anything you want. Jesus was on my right arm. I was head down and grabbing everything. I couldn't get enough! Then I hear Jesus bust out laughing. He wasn't mocking; He was approving. All the hurt left me. I was assured my appetite was good.

    Our learning will equal our appetites. If you just eat junk "food" there's an emptiness in it. Eat the real stuff. What is God like??

    We're running a race to finish it. The race is ahead of us; not so much behind.

    Write down when and what the Holy Spirit has you reading. What is He teaching today? I feel like if we gorge ourselves on the Word of God... satan doesn't have a chance to tempt us with food.

    Who are you going to live with ETERNALLY ? Jesus laughs. He loves us! He encourages us! He is pleased with your efforts. Love Him back. That's all I can say.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Hebrews 12:14
    Kinda echos to Romans 12:18

    If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.
  • Mishael - in Reply on 1 Peter 5:13
    Some Bibles have a commentary at the beginning of each Book. 1 Peter 5:14 shows him to be in Roman provinces. 1 Peter 5:12-14,

    2 Peter 3:18 is the end of recorded exhortations by Peter. Most famous being: his preaching on the day of the Lord.

    Peter was crucified upside down on a cross. Sounds like something Romans of that time, would do.

    Chris as more access to more historical accounts; dates.
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    Page 2.

    You said, "so you don't need to be a Jew to follow the commandments". In one sense, you are correct, if you mean that God's Laws are good & very useful to all people (as even now some of those laws are incorporated in modern societies). But, we are talking here about, not just about doing the 'right things before God', but does God accept us (Jew & Gentile alike) if we try to maintain strict adherence to His Laws?

    So if keeping of the Laws couldn't make us right before God, then He had to send Jesus, His Son, Who came as the complete fulfilment of all those Laws (He was the Word of God come in the flesh & without sin, to be the only acceptable Sacrifice that would be acceptable to God). So, if a person is now acceptable to God through Jesus' Sacrifice for their sins, where does the significance of the Law appear? A person cannot keep the Law & also come by faith in Jesus' Sacrifice to be acceptable to God: these two oppose each other, as self-effort & trust don't mix, as oil & water don't. So if we come by the Law, God judges us by it; if coming in faith, God accepts us because His Judgement was completed at the Cross of Jesus.
  • Chris - in Reply on Isaiah 66
    Page 1.

    Yasser, your example of Abraham circumcising his Gentile servants is correct, as that was what was required to be done to become part of his household & observe any ceremonies. But it remains that the Law of God was not given to the non-Jew; the Law was one of the marks (circumcision, the other) signifying God choosing this particular people to be His Own to the exclusion of everyone else.

    Then if you believe that a Gentile still needed to come under (obey) these Laws to be accepted by God, then of course, they would be judged by God under the same conditions the Jew was. So where does it leave those Gentiles? They would still have to obey them to the letter even to the performance of the sacrifices, etc. which they & the Jew could never do. The Law, at best, could only show them that they were incapable of total obedience to it & that God couldn't accept them on that basis, as even the breaking of one law, meant that they were guilty of all.

    So the Law was given as a temporary measure until the perfect Sacrifice would be given by God Himself, that would only be fully acceptable to Him. "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us".

    (onto Page 2)
  • Charles Etuk on Matthew 21:46
    They and their ancestors have been killing prohets. Why were they afraid? Comment*
  • Bendito Palavra - in Reply on Mark 1
    Jesus is the King, so in a very real sense the kingdom has come. However in John 18:36 Jesus answered Pilate, "My kingdom is not of this world...". After his resurrection and ascension to the right hand of God, his kingdom is headquartered in heaven and manifested in today's rebellious world by his church, via the indwelling power of the Holy Ghost (Ephesians 1:18-23). We enter into his kingdom by believing in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and receiving him as our savior from our sin. In 1st Corinthians 15:24-28 we see the fullness of his kingdom, as we can also see proclaimed in Revelation 11:15-19 and realized in Revelation chapters 20-22.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 9:3
    God gave us animals to eat. Most societies make us get permits to hunt on state or federal lands. Find out the laws or ordinances in your area.
  • Mishael - in Reply on Matthew 24:38
    I tried to reply through the email, and it got lost again. I still want to reply. I am grateful that many of you are school learned.

    My family was hardworking with 5 children, post-WW 2.

    I was born to a farm in Red Rock, Texas. As a child, I think I was accompanied with an angel. Almost died lots of times. I had an awareness of God then. Genesis 2:19, God was actually interested to see what Adam would name the creatures. That's the God I knew then and now. I only want Him by my side. The sinful years don't matter anymore. He came and saved me at 34. I've been single 30 yrs since. My relationship with Jesus has only gotten sweeter and deeper over the years. I find Him fascinating; I worship Him as Holy; Lord of all. Whatever He asks, I will to do it. Ridicule doesn't slow me down. Keep your eye on the prize set before you. That would be Him. The greatest thing you can do for God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit, is to worship and adore them. Father is God; the Holy Spirit is the definition of strength, gentleness, teaching, leading. My poor efforts to define are not enough. Jesus is ALIVE! Never doubt who you have chosen to follow.

    ( Red scripture) 2 Corinthians 12:9, And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for My strength is made perfect in weakness:

    I too have a thorn in the flesh. I've prayed for it to be removed, over the past 9 years. It kind of turns your focus more upon Jesus. He knows why and I learned to accept it.

    The most dangerous thing you can do; is sit before the Lord quietly, in his presence. Perhaps to sing to Him, praise to Him for who HE is to YOU. You can't do enough of that; it Lights you up!

    The singer met the Song, and he understood.

    You log in hours upon hours studying scripture, translating scripture, frequently explaining (knowledge of the Holy) to unseeing eyes, unhearing ears. Give your gift to the Lord and let Him bring it back to you with power.
  • Judy Hospedales on Wisdom of Solomon 14:7
    What does vs 7 of chapter mean?
  • Cindy - in Reply on Colossians 3
    You can't stop sinning either. If you say you are without sin you call God a liar and the truth is not in you. Just because you don't get drunk or murder or commit fornication does not mean you don't sin. We live in a sinful flesh body. We are saved by what Jesus did for us not what we do for him. We are not good but he is. Keep trying to work to earn your salvation. You will never obtain it. The only way to be saved is by trusting the Gospel. We are saved by Grace through Faith in the work of Jesus. Not by "being good" that is an acursed gospel. I can't believe you can read the King James Bible and believe in works. I believe in the works of Christ and God counts it to me for righteousness. Our works are filthy rags to God. They were never good enough to save us . If so then why the need for a Savior? If our works were not good enough to save us they are sure not good enough to keep us saved. The Holy Ghost is our seal. He preserves us. God saved us by his power and he keeps us by the same power. When you are born again and the Holy Spirit moves in your desires change. You don't want to sin. Anyone born again would know that. It's not a license to sin it it trusting God to save you to the uttermost. The sabbath was a shadow of our rest in Christ. It was a lesson that when God says to stop working stop working. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly. His faith is counted for righteousness. You gotta stop working and start trusting that what Christ did was enough. Religious people kill me. They look righteous on the outside but are dead men's bones on the inside.


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