Bible Discussion PAGE 154

  • Chris - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    Mishael,

    "Powerful people are pushing Israel to relinquish ALL the land that they reclaimed in the 6 Day War. Land that they need for all the Jews that will return."

    I wonder whether we can bank on Genesis 15:18 & 17:8, where God covenants with Abram that his seed will get all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates & ALL the Land of Canaan (for an everlasting possession). What the world (United Nations in 1947) has done to Israel is despicable & will be severely judged for this wicked act. To give Israel a sliver of land to ease their tainted consciences does despite to God's Holy Word. God does not forget His Promises & we will see mighty things happen in that land. Now, if only Israel would acknowledge their Messiah & repent of what they had done to him, Israel would be in a whole different situation now & truly "a holy & peculiar people unto the Lord" (Deuteronomy 14:2).
  • Cee Cee - in Reply on 2 Esdras 1
    Scriptures says when our breath leaves us or God takes our breath, we are asleep until his 2nd coming. We all return to dust, animals and humans alike.
  • Thomas on Isaiah 13
    19. America is latter-day Babylon, America is the glory of earth's known kingdoms, She is the beauty of excellency. America has become like the overthrown "Sodom and Gomorrah".

    20. This is not a verse about America. This is the place of Sodom and Gomorrah, a place burned to the bedrock, a place of sulfur balls, a place of desolation. That which was once the most furtle and green is the most desolate, ever since this destruction at the time of Abraham, it has been a place incapable to feed goat of sheep. This is the land of the Arab and even he doesn't use it. This is what America resembles in her destruction.
  • Thomas on Isaiah 13
    13. This is an ominous time, within the awful presence of wars terrors, come the shaking of the whole earth causing the heavens to have the appearance of shaking. This is not an earthquake, it's "pole shift", the moment of 2 mile deep sea's becoming unleashed on the seacoasts and covering all the lower ground till the incomparable 2 mile high waves run out of inertia. This is absolute devastation of everything in its path. It is recurrent in this shifting likened to shaking.

    So the oceans will be thrown from their sea beds repeatably to cover the landmasses. Its of interest to see that maps have been created to show this eventuality for America and the whole of the world.
  • Jim on Proverbs 31
    I remember as a kid,that their were certain woman including my mom would clean the Church every Friday or Saturday; for no pay. As time rolled alone. People became sick or past away.my mom an one other lady I can't remember,took on that duty and bought their own supplies, until they couldn't any more for years. Do good works before night fall,because when night falls no man can work. In reference to Proverbs 31.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 23:1
    SC. Have you really thought through what you are saying here? You're trying to force a human relationship (i.e. Father, Mother, Child) into a Divine, Spiritual existence. You just can't do it - there is no gender in Heaven. As well, asserting that the North & South poles equate to male & female: where does this idea come from? Then, are East & West hermaphrodite in gender? Then the question: why even bother to quote the Bible to substantiate your beliefs? Wouldn't it better to base these deductions from the sources where you learned them from? The Bible is clear in every details & gives support to its Truths from other Scriptures. By using God's Word to promote ideas far removed from biblical revelation is to not only abuse Scripture, but also bring the Deity down to a devilish way of interpretation.

    I think, that unless you repent of these nonsensical ideas & hang onto the beauty of Scripture, then you should just resort to your own literature & visions, without attempting to falsify God's Word. This might then make your ideas more understandable or appreciated to those wavering souls wishing to listen to them.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 70
    Albert, I will assume that you are a Christian who is still caught up in this habit. Any habit that controls us means that Christ is not the One to completely indwell us, fill us & control us by His Spirit. Romans 6:16 speaks about being slaves in other ways, but this Truth can be applied to anything that we are servants (subject) to in our bodies: "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" & 1 Corinthians 6:12: "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."; & this tells us that there are many things we can do (i.e. that the Bible doesn't clearly forbid us to do), but those things (e.g. smoking, etc.) are not the proper thing to do (e.g. becoming captive to it, for health reasons, etc.).

    Yet, even though the Scriptures are clear as to what we should do, we know that only God, by His Spirit, can give us the strength to gain victory. The apostle Paul said that he could do all things through Christ, Who gave Him the strength (Philippians 4:13); i.e. he looked to Him & called upon Him whenever he couldn't do something in his own strength. It is that continual reliance upon the Lord & particularly being on guard when that urge comes to have a smoke. In the '70s, I was gripped by cigarettes as well. But after I was saved, my friend (a non-Christian) & I decided to give up. God had led me (or, us) to a 'herbal cigarette' that gave us the sense of smoking but without the nicotine/tar: in other words, it wasn't habit forming & in fact, helped me to eventually drop the habit in short while. My friend went back to smoking, but God gave me the strength to press on & I've never looked back.

    So Albert, don't lose heart; God can help you as you look to Him each day for this habit & also check out the market for something to assist you to get release from this.
  • Jim on Isaiah 59
    I f you let God fight your battles for you , you want have too. I'm talking about spiritual battle. Because we cannot fight against the devil and the wickedness that he bring. Only God can fight those spiritual battles. We can fight against flesh and blood, but not against the wicked spirit that be.pray and do good works so that you can build up your faith. God may not always be around, but he will strengthen you and comfort you. Put on the whole armour of God, so that you will be protected.

    I n reference to Isaiah 59.
  • Alta on Matthew 20:20
    The correct answer for the question is Matthew 22:14 which says,"For many are called, but few are chosen."

    And not Matthew 20:20 which says "Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him"
  • Tiant Williams on Hebrews 13
    I referred to 2 Timothy 2:15

    15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Many will come in his name to teach us divers and strange doctrines putting first they own law, but if we study daily then we will know when we are with the right shepherd which God will be well pleased
  • Anonymous - in Reply on Psalms 82
    Finally, a good answer!
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."

    GOD DIVORCED ISRAEL so did God divorced the Jews?

    No Moses was not of the tribe of Judah, we was of Levi.

    1 Chronicles 23:14 Now concerning Moses the man of God, his sons were named of the tribe of Levi.
  • Derek Philip - in Reply on Numbers 31:28
    God is love. He does not punish sin. He does not have to. What you sow you reap. Sin brings death all by itself - the second death that is. We all experience the first death which is the bruising of the heel of the seed of the woman (dual application, our experience and Jesus experience). We will be resurrected however. Another story.
  • Derek Philip - in Reply on Numbers 31:28
    The lesson in this chapter is about what happens when we disobey God. To save us form our own weakness and bring us back into harmony with Him after we disobey usually causes heartache. I am sure it was hard for the soldiers to have to kill the women and children but if it were not done worse consequences would have resulted.

    Remember Genesis 3, when man sinned? For man's sake we read that God moved him out of the garden and the earth was "cursed". Man had to eek out a living the hard way... God didn't really curse the earth himself, it was a natural result of the consequences of sin. This is a hard concept for us to understand. God was uttering what he knew would happen, its God's foreknowledge. Not predestination.

    Israel was never to go to was to enter the promised land. God had "appointed" hornets to drive out the people ( natural disaster I interpret it as (Exodus 23:38 And I will send hornets before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee and Deuteronomy 7:20

    Moreover, the LORD your God will send the hornet against them until all the survivors and those hiding from you have perished.)..

    The earth itself revolts against us because of our sin. We do things that upsets the balance of nature - like climate change. And all the mining and drilling for oil etc... upsets the equilibrium of the earth and causes problems (which scientist never tell us about).

    So Israel's disobedience disrupted God's plan and set in train a series of unfortunate events that resulted in Israel having to go to war - because they believed that was the only way to conquer. They did not trust God's way.

    In this case, Moses told the men these adult women caused a plague among you before and many die. You want that to happen again? They had to die. The male offspring would become warriors to avenge their fathers who Israel killed - they had to die too (consider Moses himself re killing the Egyptian). The other females would become servants.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on Hebrews 13:17
    If the leaders demand we disobey a command of the Lord we are to disobey them. Example the Hebrew midwives at the time of Moses commanded the male children be killed and they disobeyed him as recorded in

    Exodus Chapter 1:15 And the king of Egypt spake to the Hebrew midwives, of which the name of the one was Shiphrah, and the name of the other Puah:

    16 And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.

    17 But the midwives feared God, and did not as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the men children alive.

    18 And the king of Egypt called for the midwives, and said unto them, Why have ye done this thing, and have saved the men children alive?

    19 And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women [are] not as the Egyptian women; for they [are] lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.

    20 Therefore God dealt well with the midwives: and the people multiplied, and waxed very mighty.

    21 And it came to pass, because the midwives feared God, that he made them houses.

    22 And Pharaoh charged all his people, saying, Every son that is born ye shall cast into the river, and every daughter ye shall save alive.

    Yet in Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

    Rome was evil and Yet Jesus said to pay their taxes as an example to us:

    Matthew 22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute (Taxes) unto Caesar, or not?

    19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.

    20 ... Whose image is this?..

    Matthew 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
  • Arissa Nolastname - in Reply on Psalms 70
    My prayer is for life and not death, for Christ is Life and HE defeated death, hell and the grave. I pray Holy Spirit, that Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead to be alive in your sister. May she be released from the shadow of death and her body, spirit and soul, her past, present and future be brought under the dominion of Christ Jesus. May He be there with her to break the hold the devil/his agents have on her. Jesus is Lord. May His Peace be with you.
  • Mishael 1st Day Testimony - in Reply on Psalms 23:1
    I was demon possessed at one time: an astrologer. I knew God had all the answers to life, but I couldn't hear Him. I turned to stars & planets to explain why my life was so painful. When you serve Satan, he's not satisfied with just deceiving you. He's got you and he'll keep you busy till you miss out on the Rapture ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

    Does weird stuff go on in your home? That would be the demons.

    I didn't have a normal Baptist type of salvation experience. I was interpreting a horoscope for a friend. God just peeled back the room like a page in a book and let me see, Revelation 1:14-16; parts of it:

    " His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes as a flame of fire! And his voice as the sound of many waters (the scariest part). And out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shining." I was blinded for a second and my ears were hearing my friends voice: IT seems to have some truth, but the Bible says it is wrong! She made a hasty exit out of the house. I was still hearing 2 Timothy 3:5, over and over.

    I went to the bookcase to read my Bible I had never used. WHY was it wrong? I read every verse on stars, planets, astrology and the Death Penalty for doing it. I closed the Bible and laid my head on it, saying, I deserve to die. Then the floor became a vision of hell.

    I crouched on top of the chair, my eyes seeing gross and unclean to the 10th power.

    I'm trying to look for an escape! I become aware of an invisible Hand, held out to me from the ceiling. I stood up to take the Hand. Then I fell on the floor, but the vision was gone! I know that is when I was delivered from the demons in me. It was VIOLENT and I lost consciousness. Next morning, Everything looked the same but more peaceful. I saw the astrology books & immediately wanted them gone! I rid my house of all idols that day. I told my friend what happened. Saved on Yom Kippur '85. You get saved too, now.
  • Carl Ramsey on Numbers 12:1
    Why have I never heard a single preacher use this scripture? People thinking it's wrong to mix neednto hear it dontcha think
  • Mishael - in Reply on John 5:43
    He will see his Mother again. A joyful reunion.
  • Mishael a prayer request - in Reply on Proverbs 31
    Call 700 Club and let their prayer warriors keep your mom's name on that list.

    1-800 700 7000.

    Be comforted, no matter the outcome. My mother died a couple years ago. I thought if I could just get her on her feet, all would be better. I still miss seeing her on the sofa, watching her favorite shows. Have someone come do your Mom's hair.

    Is she a Christian?
  • Mishael on Psalm 756 - in Reply on Psalms 75:6
    Psalms 75:6

    Verse 6-10. The rise and fall of nations and empires are in this Psalm ascribed to God. He exalts one and puts down another at his pleasure.

    In this he generally uses instrumentality, but that instrumentality is always rendered effectual by his own agency. When nations or individuals are prosperous, and glorious, and powerful, they usually ascribe all to themselves or to fortune. But it is God who has raised them to eminence.

    When they boast He can humble them. In these verses God is considered as the governor of the world, punishing the wicked, and pouring out judgment on his enemies. The calamities of war, pestilence, and famine, are all ministers of providence to execute wrath. Commentary by Alexander Carson.

    This website has a commentary that you can read what the scripture is thought, to explain a verse. Type the scripture in the search box. After it comes up, scroll down until you see the commentary box. Click on that.

    It also has a box so you can go straight to Google if nothing came up on your KJVO search. Have a pad & pencil ready.

    That center column in some Bibles is used to give explanation of scriptures pertaining to the one you are questioning. The letters and numbers correspond to the verse you are reading. I find that really helpful.
  • Faye ballard - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 15
    They were slaves for a long period of time.....moses was a jew
  • Faye ballard - in Reply on Deuteronomy 2
    I don't think so (desert)
  • Russell Rose on Hebrews 13:17
    Where does it tell us to obey our government in the Bible and where does it tell us to disregard our government and follow the word of God?
  • Patricia - in Reply on Jonah 1
    How did Jonah breath in the whale belly? I assume that God kept him alive to do his will.
  • Ann Hering - in Reply on John 5:43
    The Tribulation is not happening now. The Tribulation is the Time of Jacob's (Israel's) Trouble. That is a prophetic event. We are not in prophecy.

    The Apostle Paul was buffeted by Satan because he preached The Gospel Of The Grace of God, believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again, all by grace through faith in that alone!

    Satan hates the preaching of the cross of Jesus Christ. Religion hates the preaching of the finished work of the cross for salvation. That is why Paul was beaten, stoned, and sorely mistreated because of The Gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)

    Today no prophecy! The Body Of Christ will be taken out of here before God resumes His prophetic program with ISRAEL during The Tribulation!
  • Acciah - in Reply on Romans 9:13
    Lorin,

    Predestined and chosen are not the same thing. The Israelites were chosen. But if you read scripture, they weren't chosen in a predestination sort of way. GOD told them why they were chosen. He did it in remembrance of his promise to their ancestors.

    Deuteronomy 7:6-8 King James Version (KJV)

    6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

    7 The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

    8 But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
  • Andres Donet on Amos 5:8
    How Amos knew about Orion and the Pleiades?
  • Frank - in Reply on Daniel 7
    This dream is similar to the dream that God showed to Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel 7:13-The four great beasts are the four kingdoms that will rise from the earth, in the previous chapter, four kingdoms was also mentioned, is this the same prophecy? Is Rome the fourth kingdom?

    The first beast is Babylon, Babylon is compared with a lion with eagle wings-Daniel 2:38. Babylon was very powerful in those days, ruler of the beast is lion and ruler of the birds is engle.

    The 2nd beast is bear- why was the bear raised on one of its side-Persia was stronger than the Media which became the Persian empire. The bear had three ribs in the month-the Persian conquered 3 kingdoms-Babylon, Lydia and Egypt.

    The 3rd beast looked like a leopard, Greece is compared to a leopard, leopard is fast and one with wings is even faster, Alexander the Great conquered the whole civilized world in about 8 years. Alexander died at the age of 33, his son was too young to rule and so the kingdom was ruled by four generals, that was why the leopard has four heads.

    Rome is the 4th beast, a little known kingdom that waged war against the churches and destroyed them. The little horn kingdom are the anti Christ or satan. The 10 horns are ten kings that will come from these kingdoms.

    The little 10 horns will come from Rome, will subdue 3 of the 10 horns, change the laws and times and oppress the saint. Whoever fulfills this is an anti Christ.

    Note that the anti christ will come from Rome and will have his own kingdom, and it's own constitution.
  • Acciah - in Reply on Romans 9:13
    Art,

    Keep in mind that GOD is not restricted by time as we are. GOD knows and sees our beginning from our end. Remember that he told Jeremiah: "Before I formed you in the womb I knew thee". GOD said "I knew thee"..He knew the type of character ESAU would be throughout and at the end of his life.

    We have free will. GOD knows how we're going to use it.


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