Bible Discussion PAGE 143

  • Alex on Acts 5:33
    Alex comments about the deity of Christ, How can we know that Christ is truly God ?, Only 1 way we can know for sure its by his WORDS which are his Seeds. The Father said to go forth and multiply but everything has to multiply after its KIND. This go forth and multiply is directed also to Christ thats y the sower of the good seed will go forth an sow his precious seed in humanity, th field being the world,our hearts is the good ground, The fruit is the H.G. Which is God, th wheat is God simply b/c the good seed is the living WORD which is the very Seed of God to whom the word came it made them Gods thus he is able to propagate after the God KIND which proves he is truly God the son, There is no way to refute this to whom the word came it made them Gods. When he breath on them his breath was his WORD which is his Seed and they received the H.G. which is God. Jesus cd not reproduce very GOD IF HE WERE NOT GOD Simply b/c everything has to multiply after its KIND.Thats y Jesus said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit as GOD IS Spirit.ya gotta realize that the wheat is God simply b/c that good seed is the God seed to whom the WORD came that good seed it made them Gods this cannot be refuted as these are the very words of our lord. He that soweth the good seed is the Son of MAN,Christ Jesus. When he breathe on them he was sowing seed propagating very God as his breath was his seed/WORD . They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin he has a Seed to sow in humanity . Only God and Christ cd reproduce very God in us sinners. We be the FIELD TH WORLD TH bride. Thats y the good seed is the Pearl of great price, Its the very seed of God. Thats when he said b/c i have spoken these words ( seeds ) sorrows have filled your hearts when a woman is in travail she has sorrows b/c her hour is come but after the CHILD comes which is the H.G her sorrows are turned into joy.then he said he wd see us again simply b/c the CHILD IS THE H.G another CHRIST, God
  • Charley - in Reply on John 10
    Isaiah a virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call him immanuel

    which means god with us. Isaiah 7-14.Isaiah 9-6 for unto you

    a child is born unto you a son is given and the government

    shall be upon his shoulder;and his name shall be called wonderful

    counselor the mighty god the everlasting father the prince of

    prince. he is god rob you have been deceived sir,John 20-27-28

    doubting thomas reached out and said to jesus my lord and my

    god, so i guess thomas was wrong, you have been decived by some

    cult.John 10-30 i and my father are one. then they wanted to stone

    my lord jesus, please tell me why?i know because he said he was

    god equilto the godhead, you have been deceived rob. one more

    steven being stoned. knelt down saying lord jesus receive my

    spirit Acts 7-59 i leave you with this every jnee shall bow and every

    tongue will confess jesus christ as lord, or hell will be your ruin

    you probably do not even believe in a literal hell but it is real.

    i beg you to repent from your error it is a fearful thing to fall

    in the hands of an angry god.Hebrews 10-31
  • Chris - in Reply on Haggai 1
    There were actually three Temples recorded:

    a. Solomon's Temple (1 Kings 5:3-6:1 & 6:37-38). The King of Tyre supplied the timber & workmen for this work which took seven years in building.

    b. Zerubbabel's Temple (Ezra 1, 3, 6). This temple was instigated & authorized by Cyrus in 538 BC but the work ceased because of Samaritan opposition & discouragement of many of the Jews. In 515 BC, the work was finally completed by Zerubbabel & Joshua after being encouraged to do so by the prophets Haggai & Zechariah to take up the unfinished work. (Ezra 4:24-5:2; Haggai 1:1-2:9; Zechariah 4:7-10). But this temple wasn't as extravagant as Solomon's. This temple was plundered & desecrated by Antiochus Epiphanes in 169 BC.

    c. Herod's Temple. In about 20 BC, Herod the Great undertook to reconstruct the Temple with its surrounding courts & buildings. Most of the construction took about ten years to complete, but work was still going on while Jesus walked on the Earth & later. And this temple was destroyed by Emperor Titus of Rome in AD 70 & its furnishings & treasures carried off to Rome.

    There is no biblical reference to another temple being built as Jesus Himself said, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." (John 2:19), referring to His Body & three days later, His resurrection. And as you said, that we are the Temple of the Holy Ghost (1 Corinthians 6:19), so the old temple was destroyed (first by the rending of the vail & then by Titus), which ushered in the New Covenant with the Temple within us. There are references to the Temple in Heaven but in the New Jerusalem, there will be no need for one, as "the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." (Revelation 21:22).

    Present day Jews want another Temple to be built, some wanting the institution of sacrifices as well, & others, not. Yet, 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 indicates that anti-Christ will one day sit in the temple showing himself to be God, so one can only guess on that one.
  • 1 searching on Zephaniah 1
    I've read this first chapter for the first time and it scares me, I've just come back to the Lord after being gone many years. this should scare anyone to repentance.
  • Chris - in Reply on Psalms 150
    That was a lovely testimony Alexis of how the Lord had been dealing with you, saved you & healed you. Even when Satan brings you doubts & fears, always remember how the Lord has been with you & give God praise in all things you face. Read your Bible often & talk to your Lord regularly.

    Since you answered the altar call at Church, your pastor is well aware of what you've done in coming to the Lord. You should talk to him about water baptism as an act of public & private identification with your Saviour. Baptism is most meaningful & precious when done very soon after being born again by God's Spirit & you use that special event to also witness against the evil one that you are now God's child whenever he tries to create doubt in you.

    So thank you for sharing that part of your life & may the blessings of the Lord follow you & strengthen you each day.
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on John 1
    Once more blessing in Christ on you dear brother Chris

    I feel I have to alter the topic of the discussion for this reply as something came out in your post which startled me greatly.

    I hope I misunderstood you, because I had the impression you wrote that Jesus Christ talks to God the Father like one person speaks to another person!!!

    Do you really believe that? Do all Trinitarians believe it? I have never been long at a Trinitarian church so I honestly did not know this is believed. God have mercy on us. This is absolute polytheism! I thought you simply believed that God had three heads or three independant forms, but to say that one part of God talks to another part of God, and has a chat, this is unimaginable. This is 100% equal to Hinduism where (with all due respect to the Word stating we are not to even to say the names of idols) Shiva goes to visit Vishnu and they spend an hour having a debate about who is greater, or Buddhism where the Buddha may say a certain human needs to go to hell, but then Amitabha comes along and says that because the human visited his temple once he can be born on earth as a bird instead of going to hell, or Greek religion where Hera became jealous of Heracles because Zeus loved him more, etc.

    My dear brother in Christ. Please consider what you are really believing. The very thing that caused God to make Abraham be taken out of his land to go to Canaan was that Abraham rejected the polytheism of his country. Out of a whole country he alone knew the oneness of God, and that God is not a man or men but a Spirit. My ernest desire for you is to be the one person in your community who can leave the traditions of organized religion, and know the oneness of God, and that God is not a man or men but a Spirit.

    Peace and love in our one and only Lord, with none other equal who He can chat with as one among equals, Jesus Christ
  • Chris - in Reply on John 10:36
    Thanks Rob - I see where you're coming from. I've tried my hardest to get you to give some explanation to some of these other verses that speak more of Jesus, God's Son, but you have refrained & instead gave me the answer: "There are those that are ever learning but not able to come to the truth." Well, we are ever learning but we do have Truth, & increasing we trust, to hold onto, but it would be awful to be in a position of rejecting other Scriptures so that a particular belief can be supported. I won't bother you again - thank you for your time Rob. Blessings.
  • Lou Contino on Zephaniah 3:5
    And this is Our Good News O' Israel; we who prescribed to God what we wanted from His Messiah, we who mistakenly proclaimed to the poor & needy an earthly translation of law upon God's eternal, we whose eyes remain closed...OUR CAPTIVITY IS OVER! Come & let us reason together as One Israel & go to The Lord Christ Jesus humbly seeking God's Freedom from Our Sins.
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on Psalms 100
    God bless you brother Mishael

    Your knowledge of Scripture is better than your knowledge of music. Mozart was not deaf. Beethoven was deaf. :-)

    Peace & Love in Christ
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 4
    There's no verse to say we must 'believe' in the Deity of Christ, but there are ample verses to show the Deity of Christ, as has been given in other discussions with you Rob.

    However, since you mentioned 1 John 4:15 showing "Jesus as the Son of God", let's not forget verses 2 & 3, "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

    If you've done a study of 1 John, you would have seen that Gnostic teaching was rife & intruding into the Church, hence this urgent epistle by John. There are many facets to Gnosticsm & one branch, Docetism, had this devilish teaching that "the incarnation is incredible because Deity cannot unite itself with anything material, such as a body". Hence John gave out this urgent & stern warning as we read in verses 1-3 to always "test the spirits whether they are of God, because false prophets (& specifically the teachers holding to Gnostic beliefs) are gone out into the world".

    And how would the believers know how to discern which spirit was speaking? John says, It is "God's Spirit (through the teacher) that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh". Did these false teachers deny the physical Jesus? No. Jesus' presence on Earth was both an historical & real experience that none could deny. The denial came when that physical Body was taught to be united to God since it was impossible for God, so Holy & Pure, to join Himself with anything of the flesh. John clarifies that this is the evil coming forth from such spirits that want to lessen the full value & beauty of Jesus coming as God's Son from God, by simply confining Him to a fleshly existence. Some even proposed that only a spiritual Jesus was on Earth & the Crucifixion was effected by just a man.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on 1 John 4
    Rob,

    Please take this in all kindness, peacefulness, and gentleness. Where is the verse that says we need to believe Jesus Christ only began to exist when he was born on earth? Please don't come back at me and curse me trying to say only what you perceive is the truth. It seems different people have different ways of interpreting Jesus Christ. But if some of us are simply believing what John the Baptizer, Christs Apostles, and Jesus Christ Himself said in the Bible. Then you are simple not believing all of them either. And just want to believe in your own idea. Which really, to me, is fine. As long as we acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord and the Messiah sent from our Father in Heaven. That died on the cross for our sins. Why so much going back and forth about this? We are not going to change our views(which is backed up by many Scriptures) and I doubt you are going to change your view.

    So again please don't take this harshly by any means. Instead of arguing or telling other people they believe a lie from the devil. Maybe we should praise the Lord in some way. I'll leave this one verse for everyone. John 5:23 God Bless.
  • Rob - in Reply on John 10:36
    It does say in the New Testament

    There are those that are ever learning but not able to come to the truth .

    What is the truth ? Exactly what God said . How simple can it be ? You hear it believe it receive it , keep it . Amen .
  • Alexis Young on Psalms 150
    for a very very long time i wanted to be saved i told my stepmom she said "the way u been acting u cant be saved" well every timeat church they woulhave altar call and dats where if u wanna be saved go up there well u feel a lil push like go up there lexi 4 me in my mind of course i was to scared. one day my stepmom told me i wanna get saved lets go up there togetherdat sunday night service we went up there and i got saved i felt best ive ever felt be4 now dat friday u know about brain surgery well while i was in the hospital i felt Gods hand over me, i known everything gonna be ok while every1 around me was freaking out well my dad said most christiantake a while to change but 4 me it was likea light i changed. and ever since the day I got saved God is my go to i love him with allmy heart i wasn'teven supposedto be able to walk, talk or move im supposeto be dead! But I came out of that surgery better then ever! God is real satan wanted to bring me down by having me have thoughts im gonna die but in few sec ik God was with me. Stop loving or worshiping someone who dont care for you. God id herehes here every sec of ur life.!!!! mever ever doubt God!
  • :) - in Reply on Acts 5:33
    Thank u so much i am rn telling my testimony so thsnk u 4 verses to go with it, im for real very thankful with ur response God bless you
  • Kevin Mack on Psalms 62
    A great message for the totally depraved corrupt democratic party and all their friends. Enjoy what time you have left, hell is rising up to meet you. You are all fools, because you say there is no God.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on Acts 5:33
    Hello. If you truly care about him. Along with him saying he would listen to you about God. What I would say or start with is: "Why does he worship satan and where did he learn about him from"? As this could have come to him in many ways like music, family, trend, etc. Then just try to tell him the truth that satan does not care about him or anyone but himself. The devil knows he is already damned and just wants to destroy as many lives as he can. Here are a couple Bible verses I looked up showing that satan is the enemy and is already damned.

    Matthew 4:1-10 , Jesus being tempted by him in the desert.

    John 16:11 , the devil(prince of this world) has already been judged

    Revelation 12:7-9 , satan being cast down to earth

    Revelation 20:1-15 , satan cast into the lake of fire

    Jude 1:6-9 , fallen angels and Michael Archangel contending with devil

    John 8:44 , devil is the father of lies

    Galatians 5:19-21 , lusts of the flesh(what the devil wants people to do)

    Along with the others who responded to you. All else I can really say is be careful. Pray to our Father and Jesus Christ to lead you. Maybe try to read through the Bible with him. Show him that Jesus Christ is the only way. He may turn from satan or you may have to leave him. You will be in my prayers. God Bless.
  • Kevin Mack on Psalms 59
    As I read this, I feel like it's right out of the news. Sounds like antifa, black lives matter, communist democratic party, attacks on our cities. And how only God can save the United States of America. Also the corrupt politicians of secret santanic societys, Freemasons, Illuminati,skull and bones 322, night Templars,etc. Doing their best to get away with their crimes and escape Justice. They won't escape God's court date. Hell awates you enemies of God.
  • :) - in Reply on Acts 5:33
    thank u so much and he really did say that kinda stuff im kinda under 18 so i dont prepare to do any thing with marriage or the big s word haha but yea thank you im so glad i have some fellow believers to help me thank u God bless you
  • Mishael - in Reply on Acts 5:33
    Some people react badly to rejection and others just walk away, on to the next woman.

    Just tell him the truth. You are saving yourself for marriage. Saying the M word usually results in him moving on.

    Don't grieve. Just thank God you are free and will not be tempted to think satan is a dude in a red costume. People who say stuff like he has already, has been seduced by evil.

    Go on youtube and watch some spiritual warfare teachings.

    Sex outside of marriage creates soul ties inside of our hearts. It causes a lot of sorrow later. Read 1 Corinthians chapter 7. Wait for Gods best.
  • Chris - in Reply on John 10:36
    That's an interesting explanation you've given: "No matter what other scriptures you may read you can not change this truth or alter it. It's unchangeable just like God is unchangeable. So you use the light of this truth to understand more truth. If you add to the truth it becomes a lie."

    So we have Matthew 14:33, "Of a truth thou art the Son of God." And Luke 1:32, "be called the Son of the Highest."

    According to your understanding, using these verses to the exclusion of any other verse that could add to the understanding that Jesus is the Christ, the One born of God & called the Son of God, we would have to overlook portions such as John 1:1-14 as 'secondary' & unworthy for inclusion into the primary meaning & understanding of Jesus Christ. So if you consider the John 1 portion as changing or altering the Truth about the Son of God, then how do you arrive at that conclusion? And if it indeed does so, & we thereby do disservice to the Word by including it with God's Son, then I ask, what do we actually do with such Scriptures? Could this Word of God, both very God & with God & then becoming flesh to dwell on the Earth, not actually pertain to Jesus? Then to whom & how are we to read this & understand this? I've tried looking at with all the possibilities I can, but still it hits me as I read it. Even if I don't understand how this can happen, do I have to conclude that this portion has some other meaning?

    Using your Romans 6:23 example: "For the wages of sin is death" as all we need to know about this Truth. So if I then read Isaiah 59:2, telling me that my iniquities have separated me from God only, but not consigned me to death, I would be perplexed.

    Or Mark 9:43-47: for me to escape hell fire for my sins, all I have to do is to remove my hand or eye or foot that consigns me to hell. Rather, to help me understand further that my sins result in death (both physically & spiritually), it helps to know that I'm separated & also to deal with the trigger for my sin.
  • :) - in Reply on Acts 5:33
    Thank you so much, so tell my testmony send verses and stuff because a lot of pple say i have powerful testimony it may help but dont get to close to him ig and if we do talk, talk about God is what ur saying? because im down to do it anything to get him to God. and pls pray for him hes name is Devin Matthew Doher
  • A. on Psalms 90
    Can you tell me why He, God is so mad with me?? won't even respond when intercessors pray for me or when I do? This dilemma need help when promised that he does nothing but good, the enemy is allowed to rob me of my days causing so much pain & suffering. And constantly calls me and the neighbors out of our names and not having control..He be shouting and yelling all the time....not even having mercy on anyone praying for me and won't supply any of my needs. I'm a leader that he treats like I'm not. I thought it was against the law to get lied to, when he won't do any work either I don't want a not right Lord, why don't he leave us alone, even called somebody a reprobated mind and sit and meddle at her all day long making her days embarrassing, and sits working every ill to a neighbor touching in that final decision and promised not to lie and say " so" real heavy every time someone wants to talk about how I go through wrongful in turmoil, and partial and don't care, say he isn't that way in the bible, and deal with mind with a law warring in my member and see about nothing. Promised to supply but right non chalantly to give a negative answer when it should be gentle, He acts like he's declining in spirit, defames a character alot..and keeps touching in mind healing it up. And act like a vicious spirit sitting jet haunting my life. And is Loving kind but not here and left unpeaceful.. In no mercy, I pray on top of that as a Missionary. Pray, Lost folks do not receive in the spirit.. A storm hit like it was a churning sea making life hard for me. Thank you and amen
  • The Ongoing War in Our Minds - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    Familiar spirits are evil monitoring spirits sent from the pit of hell to monitor your ancestors all the way to you.

    Morning Prayer: Binding the strongman

    This is the day the Lord has made; I will rejoice and be glad in it! Today I rest in the embrace of my heavenly Father's love for me. My father loves me. He spoke me forth from before the beginning of this world, and said this is my child, never rejected! I center myself in Jesus Christ, and I proclaim I am forgiven. There is now no condemnation for me because I am in Christ Jesus!

    For this day, I renounce all fear, doubt, worry, unbelief, discouragement, depression, pride, arrogance, gossip, [insert here what's troubling your mind],

    and in the strong name of Jesus Christ I repent my sin and I take back any ground I have given the enemy in my life!

    TODAY, I renounce all fear, doubt, worry, unbelief, discouragement, depression, pride, arrogance, gossip, [fill in your specifics] , and in the strong name of Jesus Christ I repent my sin and I TAKE BACK any ground I have given the enemy in my life!

    I thank you Jesus for walking with me all day today, and I praise you for your unsearchable love and majesty. Help me to be an instrument of your Peace. Amen"

    As we pray this part of the Morning Prayer, we are entering the strongman's house and binding him and his work in our lives. As we repent our sins and renounce the ways that we have given the devil a foothold, we will begin to live in the Freedom and power that Christ died to give us.

    The battle with Satan is largely in our MIND. The devil wants control of our minds because if he can control our mind, he can control us. The way we reject Satan and his lies is to repent Of believing the lies and renouncing them.

    Renouncing simply means: to verbally reject something. We speak our rejection of Satan out loud because he, unlike God, cannot hear what we think. He can only hear what we SPEAK OUT.

    Let me know how it goes, ok? Mishael
  • Rob on Mark 4:24
    Mark 4 v 23 , 24 , 25

    Here Jesus is instructing seekers the key to learning

    You really do get what you put in , but beware you must keep what you find or lose it in the end .

    If you can't hear clearly ask the lord to speak louder , he will , but keep what he said and sell it not .
  • :) - in Reply on Acts 5:33
    so i thank u 4 adivce and u know wat imma take it how do i push him away tho? like im srry i dont really know ive never done that before im the clingy kind ik it isnt bible related but yea
  • Rob on 1 John 4
    Here we have a verse 1 John 4.15

    There are others like it .

    But where is the verse that says we need to believe in the deity of Christ ?

    Thanks for your input !
  • Walking too close to the fire - in Reply on Acts 5:33
    You're already in spiritual danger.

    People who say what he has; are already hosts to the demonic.

    I've had plenty of that kind of unpredictable activity. It's worse than the worst scary devil movie you've Ever seen.

    Please trust me that this is one you need to walk away from.

    You can give his name to some prayer warriors at your church. Yes, they'll need to know his beliefs.

    I know you're excited at this age, but life is long. You can pray NOW for your future husband. Pray you both will keep yourselves pure until marriage. That you both will love the Lord.

    Then wait till God brings you both together. Read of the Psalms 31 Christian woman. That's what men really want. A gal with a good heart and a good mind.

    You're going to have a wonderful life! Just wait for God to bring it to you. Research the definition of: chastity. It's the most valuable quality you possess.

    Mishael
  • Mishael - in Reply on John 1
    There's not really a doctrine about pets in heaven. However, if you ponder long on Noah's Ark; we know God cared about humans having animals. They loaded up the Ark with animals and when the Ark landed everyone left the Ark and went forth and multiplied.

    So the animals were preserved.

    This day, Jesus is the new Ark of God. We must be born again to be taken up in the clouds to meet Jesus. We have to be in Jesus.

    Maybe I'm an old fool, but I think there will be critters in heaven. I kinda asked The Lord why he made cats and dogs, once? I said they have not much use except to serve and be held for hours. Lol.

    Some people worship animals so that's not a good thing. The Bible does say the Lion will lay down with the lamb?

    I think we're going to have to wait and see what heaven is like. I'm excited about a transformed body that doesn't hurt or get tired.
  • Rob - in Reply on John 10
    Sorry to hear your twisted interpretations.



    Read 1 John ch 4 and 5 very carefully and you will learn why I dis agree with you .

    1 John 4 v 15 is enough in its self but so much more !
  • Rob - in Reply on John 10:36
    One explanation for how to read the scriptures is like this .

    If you truly hear and understand a truth like ( the wages of sin is death ) for example . Then it's absolutely unchanging. Gods word endures for ever never changes Just like God never changes .

    So no matter what other scriptures you may read you can not change this truth or alter it . It's unchangeable just like God is unchangeable .

    So you use the light of this truth to understand more truth . If you add to the truth it becomes a lie . That's how Satan works he says hath God said ? And adds more to what God clearly said .

    Often I see people changing truth , because they never heard it correctly to begin with .

    Jesus said to him that hears shall be given more .

    It's all about having ears to hear what God says .

    This is child like faith in trusting the word of God because Gods understanding is in searchable and infinite. The spirit of truth is spiritual , and wicked people will never understand.

    The real issue today is all the false doctrines and interpretations that have had many years to deceive people

    One of my most earnest prayers have been don't let me be deceived, as Jesus said in Matthew 24 , beware lest any man deceive you . I do believe what he said . I'm not deceived ether . He answers my prayers .


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