Bible Discussion PAGE 133

  • Anon - in Reply on Ezra 1
    If you believe your personal understandings and beliefs to be the only true way, then as a Christian, why not pray for others instead of spending time condemning them. I have seen your comments over the past couple of weeks and sometimes wonder, rhetorically, what your exact intent is, here. Spurring and encouraging others is understandable. Speaking ill of others and their personal beliefs is not so ethical nor conducive in proving Your personal understanding and beliefs. If the proof is in the pudding, some may have different tastebuds. Some more sensitive, some less. Some tastebuds may be confused as to what the exact flavor is, but they know for sure there is some good pudding..

    My comment in no way is meant to be rude or a personal attack. Just a few words from a loving brother.

    God Bless
  • Chris - in Reply on Revelation 13:2
    Jerry, I had a long response to give you, but it vanished - maybe divinely intended! So, could I direct you to also read Revelation chapter 17, which should help you grasp the meaning of the heads & horns. Please write back if you have further questions.
  • Chris - in Reply on Proverbs 2
    Hi Nancy, since I wrote to you on this matter, I will respond again. As we know, that "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." (John 4:24). That is, God in His Essence is a Spiritual Being without a body as we know. And in His fullness, He has shown to us His Word & His Spirit that are Him & proceed from Him. The Word we know was given a Body for the purposes of bringing God's Message to His people & to lay down His Life for mankind (John 1:1-14; 3:16). God's Spirit was sent out of God's Being to accomplish His Purposes on Earth, including the indwelling of the believer, returns back to God when God's Will has been fully accomplished on Earth.

    Even though I can't give you any clear Scripture to show God withdrawing His Spirit back into Himself, we have to surmise in our understanding of all of revealed Scripture we have, that as God sends out His Word & His Spirit, He must also withdraw them when His Work is done. Romans 8:26,27 tells us that the Holy Spirit helps us in our prayers, when we are ignorant on how to pray or what to pray. And it says that the Spirit helps us by lifting our 'deficient, uninformed' prayers to the Father, with His 'groans' or 'utterances' which we don't perceive. This the Spirit does because of His constant connection to the Godhead (as even Jesus had & enjoyed on Earth), & He is well able to translate our prayers into valid utterances that conform to the Will of God. But there are times that we ask (from the flesh) outside of God's Will (see James 4:3) & our prayers go no further than our ceiling.

    So when the Spirit returns to God at the appointed time, we can't conclude that the Spirit will not again be sent out to fulfil another purpose of God. Where we fail in our understanding is that, since as humans we can't do what God does, so we conclude, that God can't do it either. Just as our spirits return to God Who gave it (Ecclesiastes 12:7), so will His Holy Spirit return to the Godhead.
  • The Holy Spirits Worl - in Reply on Proverbs 2
    >The Holy Spirit is eternal just as the Father and Jesus, the Son of Man. (Which he is called in the Book of Revelation)

    >He will still be involved with those that are born again after the Rapture and all through the Tribulation.

    >During the time of The Two Witnesses.

    >His Ministry in Jerusalem, many people will be saved. Also by the 144,000 evangelists. Angels.

    >God is not willing that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance.

    2 Timothy 4:5

    But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, DO THE WORK OF AN EVANGELIST, and make full proof of thy ministry.

    1 Corinthians 3:13

    Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    1 Corinthians 3:14

    If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    1 Corinthians 3:15

    If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    Hebrews 6:10

    For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

    1 Corinthians 15:58

    Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

    Evangelism may not be taught in your Church, but it was always in the Bible. You have a "testimony " of how you came to believe in Jesus; and that is enough to get someone else's name in the Lambs Book of Life.

    Now is a perfect time to witness to others their need to choose Jesus and accept forgiveness and eternal life.

    It's not about rewards. It's about saving souls.

    Mishael
  • Rob - in Reply on John 5:22
    Most people do not understand, and I don't have it all figured out my self . But it is getting clearer as I study it , it's not easy . Do not get over whelmed With this but Trust the Lord and ask him to show you things . It takes time .

    There are many false interpretations to be sure so don't rush into any of them .

    The book of revelation is a revelation, so it unfolds it's self in time . Look at the Antichrist so many people speculate about it . But when the time is , it will be easy to understand and those that look to the word will do well . Others will have abandoned the word and be deceived.

    I could say lots but this long already . Work on being faithful to what you know , Trust God with the unknown , He is already there .
  • Rob - in Reply on Romans 8:16
    I like this comment Chris !

    It's amazing that they never recognized it was the Lord Jesus , it just goes to show how blind men are even those that know truth . Only God can open eyes to see .

    His word is alive , sometimes when I read the Bible I just can not put it down , it's like something that can not be shared . But O so good to read , see things in great detail and light ,and it's all free no hang overs . :)
  • Rob - in Reply on Ecclesiasticus 3
    The prayer of faith can save people , God does it his way of course. George Muller prayed with many dying people in his time because of a deadly plague that left 1000 s of orphans in his time . He believed it was very helpful and risked his life doing it .

    I prayed for both my parents before they died and I'm sure it helped , The Lord gave me amazing assurance after their death , I had no grievance what so ever but was happy for them . They knew little truth but they did show evidence The Lord was working . It talks about it end of book of James . The prayer of faith ...

    Never underestimate the prayer of faith . God is more than able ..
  • Joy Taylor on Genesis 1
    God and rationality
  • Richard in Christ on Proverbs 1
    It is truly heart breaking to see how believers in Jesus Christ can become so divided. Calling one another sinners, cursed, or condemning them because they have slightly different views.

    Psalms 14:1 reads: The fool hath said in his heart, "There is no God". They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Seems to be aimed toward atheists or ungodly people. Not Christians.

    I really don't think it's a big deal if people call Jesus Christ "God". I don't think our Father minds as long as we believe in His Son. It is our Fathers intention that we worship His son. He is the only way to the Father.

    As Chris stated there are many, many, Scriptures that prove Jesus Christ and God Almighty, our Father, are not the exact same. Though they are One. If that's too hard for some to comprehend I'm sorry. As Jesus Christ always points to His Father and the Father always points to Jesus. They are not selfish but meek. Just as His Word teaches us to be.

    Here's one verse from the NT one From the OT. And there are so many more but I'm ending with these. Please my brothers and sisters. There is no problem in seeking the truth. That's what our Father wants us to do. Please don't curse, or condemn, one another because your views of the Lord may be a little different. God Bless Everyone!

    Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

    Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
  • Chris - in Reply on Ecclesiasticus 3
    You were taught correctly, Dee: one should not only not pray for the dead, but to do so is pointless & against biblical teaching. Many religions do pray for the dead in the hope that that will assist those souls towards comfort & peace in the after-life. And Roman Catholics particularly believe in this as they also have the teaching of purgatory, where souls reside for a period of time for purification & made acceptability for Heaven. So while souls are being in that state, prayer is offered to God on their behalf.

    They cite several Scriptures, and from the apocryphal book Ecclesiasticus, chapter 7:33 we read, "A gift hath grace in the sight of every man living; and for the dead detain it not." And this means, as man gives to the poor (v 32) & weeps & visits the sick (vv 34,35), so to he should give a gift of grace to both the living & the dead (v 33). We can do so while he is alive, but it is wrong to think that a gift of grace (prayer) will be of any use when he is dead.

    Rather, Hebrews 9:27 says, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement". Once departing this Earth, there remains no other sacrifice for sins or place of repentance for the unbeliever, only waiting for God's Judgement. That is a sobering thought, but emphasizes the pressing need for man to give full consideration for the condition & destiny of his soul while he is still alive. The teaching that another place of repentance & purification exists, gives man licence to do & live how he wants in this life: and this then dilutes the meaning of the Cross & the urgency of its message.
  • Pat Robinson on Proverbs 1
    discussion on 2nd Samuel 3: 22-39
  • Bridget Thornton - in Reply on Ecclesiasticus 12:6
    I am a believer and have been for a long time. All you had to say that you don't know. Don't be rude about it God is love so please show what you know about love of Jesus Christ Thank you for your time
  • Diane Taylor-Wren - in Reply on Revelation 12
    Thank you for respondinh and your words of understanding, love and encouragement.
  • Brian on Isaiah 13
    Is hell eternal for such sinners?
  • Patricia d stephens on Psalms 126
    God is always on time and when we are down all we have to do is call on him and pray and seek after him. He will never leave us he is always there for us throw the good and bad. We should praise him in good time and bad time.
  • WALTER JACKSON on Acts 13:1
    who was simeon the niger
  • Chris - in Reply on Romans 8:16
    Bruce, just further to Rob's good explanation, I likewise see the Spirit's testimony to us as a calm, peaceful confirmation to our hearts, but also one that was experienced by Jesus' disciples after Jesus rose from the grave. You can read about it in Luke chapter 24, but specifically as Jesus & they sat for a meal & when He prayed & broke the bread, the disciples eyes were opened & they knew Him. Then they said to one another in verse 32: "Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?"

    So I see that as the disciples eyes & hearts were opened to the presence of the risen Jesus in their midst, so do we who have the indwelling Spirit of Christ in us, have our hearts, not only opened in response, but also "burn within us": showing the manifest confirmation by God that by His Spirit, He lives in us & will work in us to accomplish His Will. When you read & study the Scriptures or enter into a deep sincere prayer-time with God, His Spirit becomes very active & your "heart" will burn with joy, with anticipation, a sense of fulfilment, of wonder, of hope, of longing, never wanting that fellowship with your Father to cease. All these 'feelings' you sense in your spirit constantly confirm that you are indeed a child of the King, as God's Spirit speaks to you.
  • Jessie Agnew on Mark 15
    Jess is speaking the truth. Even Jesus, Yeshuah, said it himself.
  • Jessie Agnew - in Reply on John 5:22
    Saved, sanctify, or set apart means that one puts on the armor of God. The armor is God's laws, statutes, and commandments in which one applies to their life therefore saving you from the evils and wickedness of the world. Doing these laws, statutes and commandments will bring upon blessings and the ultimate reward, eternal life.

    Levitcus 20:7 reads Sanctify yourselves therefore, be ye holy: for I Am the LORD which sanctify(save, set apart) you.

    James 1:25...But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

    John 3:15-21...15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

    21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 1:26
    To clarify, are you suggesting that there is no God in Heaven except Jesus, Who is God? Or, maybe that Jesus is Our God, so the God in Heaven is no longer our God? It would be difficult to prove that only Jesus (as God) is presently in Heaven.

    To do so, then a lot of other Scriptures would have to be negated, when Jesus says: John 16:16.17 "I go to the Father"; John 20:17 "I ascend to my Father...and to My God"; Hebrews 8:1, 10:12, Mark 16:19, Romans 8:34, 1 Peter 3:22 "at the right Hand of God" & many more.

    I earnestly hope that I have misunderstood your comments as the abundance of Scripture is given for us to know that there is still a God in Heaven & His Word made flesh has now ascended victorious & glorious, seated at His Father's right Hand, receiving the worship as One inclusive in the eternal Godhead.

    You said: "The mystery of the Trinity, then, is not in God dividing himself into 2 or 3 separate parts. The mystery is in the way Jesus speaks to us." With the Scriptures before us, and they don't lie, the "mystery of the Trinity" in part, is that the Eternal God has in His Love, chosen to give of Himself as the only Sacrifice that would satisfy His demands of justice & redemption. An unblemished animal was a temporal covering for sin which could never remove the guilt & consequences of sin. God had to provide His Own Lamb, which He did (Isaiah 53:7, John 1:29), which no animal or man could fulfil. God the Father did not leave Heaven to accomplish this task but He sent forth His Word clothed in flesh to do so (John 1:1-14) & called this Word, His beloved Son. God also sent forth His Spirit to empower His Son for service & power to all who repent & call upon Him that they too may be one as They are One (John 17:21-26).

    God cannot be divided into three parts, else we might conclude, three gods. He has revealed Himself in His Fullness, in tri-unity, without which He could not be the God He reveals to us & what He accomplishes for us. Blessings.
  • Rob - in Reply on Romans 8:16
    That's a very honest question , and a very good one .

    Only God can give this too any person .

    It's not a audible voice , but God can do that if he chooses but so can other spirits , it is not normally that way .

    I liken it to a calm deep peaceful sense that I and God are one in a spiritual way , I'm not claiming to be God . But my experience is a experience that knows His presence with me in a very real way and it can grow stronger . Or get weaker too .It is extremely assuring and worth more than anything this world can give . God alone gives it to us and it's very real as God is . Spend time in the word of God and listen to Gods voice in the scriptures. A great place to start , prayer and quiet ness will help much .

    I heard of people in prayer for hours but Reading the word of God in meditation feeds our inner man . Most important. May this help some ! God bless you as you seek him .

    It could also be we need to be converted or sin in our life , there is no fellowship with God if we have sin in our life .

    David said search my heart o God if there be any wicked way in me . If so repent and turn from it seeking Gods help to live above it . We must have a clean heart , we are to be Gods temple , we can not defile it with sin in any way .
  • Gary Blankenhorn on John 5:22
    I get confused and find it hard to understand The Judgements. White Throne, etc. Judgement when they open the Lamb's Book of Life. The judgement when those saved received their rewards. Can you be Saved and still receive no rewards? I also do not understand the 1,000 year reign. I Amos 76 years old and really get confused on the end times.. I appreciate any help that you can give me the simplifies it. God Bless You For your Help
  • Encouraging Yourself - in Reply on Philippians 3:2
    I encourage myself frequently by listening to Billy Graham conferences on Youtube.

    He was the loudest voice in my generation.

    He just heralded the Word, giving no heed to the nay-sayers. Thousands came forward in his meetings to be born again.

    He never minced words or apologized, for the Word (who is Jesus), that he preached.

    Jesus is bigger than all of our doubts. If the preacher isn't preaching Christ, then it's another gospel.

    The gospel is the Virgin birth of Jesus Christ (Messiah);

    His sinless life

    His crucifixion on the Cross And death for all of mankind's sins

    His glorious resurrection to life

    If we know that much, then we know enough to help someone else be saved; born again. John 3 has all the info to learn.

    Mishael
  • Can People in Heaven See Earth Events - in Reply on Proverbs 29:2
    "Yes, the Bible assures us that Heaven is a place of absolute happiness and joy and peace-far greater than anything we'll ever experience right now. The Bible says, "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ" (Ephesians 1:3).

    Do those in Heaven know what's happening on earth? The Bible doesn't answer all our questions about Heaven-but it does indicate that those who have already entered Heaven may be aware of events on earth. The book of Hebrews, for example, pictures life as a great arena, with those who have gone before us cheering us on in our daily spiritual struggles (see Hebrews 12:1).

    Once when Jesus' appearance was changed and His heavenly glory shone through, Moses and Elijah spoke with Him about events on the earth (see Luke 9:30-31).

    Does this mean people in Heaven are sad when evil seems to be winning the day?

    No, not at all. For one thing, they (unlike us) see the whole picture; they know that even in the midst of life's heartaches and trials, God is still working behind the scenes. They also know that Satan is a defeated foe, and some day all evil will be destroyed and Christ will rule in perfect peace and justice."

    Comment by Billy Graham

    Who better to answer this question? I've seen the scriptures mentioned. I always think of them cheering us onward. To avoid pity parties with myself. To never doubt what the Word teaches. Mishael
  • Rev Autrey on 1 Corinthians 1:26
    The sin of the Christian Church is it's refusal to say Jesus is it's God, the very one who made us and keeps us alive. Jesus said it like this in John 8:24: "You are from below; I am not. That is why I said that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am who I say I am, you will die in your sins."

    John says it like this in John in John 1:1, "... and he was God." And Thomas said to Jesus in John 20:28: "My Lord and my God."

    Then Jesus said to Thomas, "You are blessed because you have seen me, but more blessed are those who haven't seen me but believe anyway."

    As you can see then, Jesus is our God, the one who came and died for the sins of the world, even if the Christian Church wont say so. And this is a sad commentary on the human race. This means that, even today, we we are ignoring the clear warning David gives us in Psalms 14: "Only the fool says in his heard that (Jesus) is not God." And David is a man after Jesus' own heart."

    See, David is preaching the Gospel ahead of time, long before it took place, that the Lord he knew as YHWH God in the Old Testament is the New Testament Jesus. This is why David says in verse 7: "Oh that salvation would come from Mount Zion and rescue Israel. For when the Lord rescues his people they will shout for joy." And salvation did come from Mount Zion, for this is the place where Jesus died on the cross to pay for our sins.

    So this is my proclamation: Jesus is the One True God, all others are false.

    See, God is a single being/a single person like us. He has to be if we are made in his image. The mystery of the Trinity, then, is not in God dividing himself into 2 or 3 separate parts. The mystery is in the way Jesus speaks to us.

    In other words he speaks to us like this: "I am Jesus," "The Father sent me," "Receive ye the Holy Spirit."

    Stay Safe,

    Rev. Autrey
  • Robyn D Wigfall on 1 John 2:27
    I love all the translations it's still on point with KJV of the Bible
  • 2 Timothy Chapter 2 on Revelation 1
    2 Timothy Chapter 2

    23 But foolish and unlearned questions AVOID, knowing that they do gender strifes.

    24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

    25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

    26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

    My Comment: We try patiently to show in scripture; commentaries by scholars; and our own testimonies: to answer questions that are brought to us.

    We are answering the call in John 21:15-17.

    Feed my Sheep. Feed my Lambs.

    Ephesians 4:11

    That's what we do, despite the accusations and opposition. Jesus did not say, go ye and persecute the Body of Christ.

    Mishael
  • Bruce on Romans 8:16
    I don't know how God's spirit testify with my spirit that I'm a child of God. How do I know this has occurred ????
  • Maria - in Reply on Proverbs 1
    Excellent! And if you read 5 Psalms/day, fir 31 days you will read through Psalms every 31 days! Psalms 119 will suffice for your reading for ONE day because it is the longest chapter in the Bible! Hence, 31 days.


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