Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 13

  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    A correction.

    Please read the third para, fourth line "The seed, planted by God in his heart in effect was as though sown there at all"

    as

    "The seed, planted by God in his heart in effect was as though not sown there at all".

    2.

    The quote from Re Ch.19 the number is 17 and not 11.
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Ps.91:1-4 "Shadow of the Almighty" (4 of 4)

    "The Lord looketh from heaven; he beholdeth all the sons of men./From the place of his habitation he looketh upon all the inhabitants of the earth." (Ps.33:13-14)

    In the earlier post we considered heavens as stretching from end to end. God has his throne from which every circle of the earth is in line of His vision. Each heart is a circle in His sight. This is what resonates in the Parable of Jesus.

    The rich man in the Parable could have seen Lazarus if he cared to. There was nothing of His nature in him. Smug and self indulgent his eye only saw what he sought. The seed, planted by God in his heart in effect was as though sown there at all. It is to which Jesus referred,"Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up."(Matt.15:13) Shadow of the Almighty was what empowered Peter, Paul, Elijah and many others. Now the key verse refers to every believer's security. God is figuratively is like an eagle with outstretched wings."my God; in him will I trust./ Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence./He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler."

    Having said this let us consider this enigmatic line "And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;"(Re.19:11). The angel is addressing to all the fowls that fly in the mid-air. They are the cloud of witnesses and the rapture that Jesus in his temple discourse alluded to. "All the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." The Son of man in the sun means the shadow of the Almighty.

    This shall explain what the single measurement of man-angel signifies. (Re.21:17) We put on glorious bodies. (2 Co.5:1-5)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Sure will Gigi.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Yes Brother Jesse

    I've done it as well.

    95% of the time I am on posting or replying from my phone.

    What annoy me most is that I am always multitasking and don't proof read.

    I have left out whole words and even half a sentence.

    God bless
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Matt.24:30 "In the clouds of heaven" (3 of 4)

    "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

    Face of heaven is in terms of heart of man which is a spiritual space indicated as a circle. " It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in."(Is.40:21)

    This glory is alike seen and understood by His creation: "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him." (Col.1:16)

    This glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ is knowledge which must give understanding for a believer. "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."(Pr.9:10)

    The cloud of witnesses witnesses to the light and the darkness cannot understand it for the simple reason they have no light in them. Peter rebuked Simon because he had no light in him. "But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money."(Ac.8:20)
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Ps.104:3 "Clouds" (2 of 4)

    God who maketh the clouds his chariot, serves the firmament as his handiwork. "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."(Ps.19:1) This glory gives the heavens a face which must understood as spiritual. First we shall understand it is not simply a face as we know the term from this oft-quoted verse," For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."(2 Co.4:6)

    According to the principle of correspondence St Paul corresponds knowledge in the face of Christ with our heart. The Spirit corresponds the Spirit of God moving upon the face of waters (Ge.1:2) giving the light of the knowledge of the glory of God to a body(waters) which has a face. It is what the firmament signifies. It is a spiritual space which is consistent with the selfsame glory on the earth made to appear. Heavens has a throne that rules over all and it is everlasting to everlasting. Similarly the Spirit refers to the throne of Lamb (Is.66:1;Re.22:1) The Spirit sets the course of the pure river of life flowing in the middle. "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb."

    This is the World of the Spirit, where angels are spirits some are holy angels and some are unclean. We have two verse, "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:" (Matt.25:31)"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"(v.41)

    The Face in short is spiritual space where heavens are stretched. "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."(Matt.24:30-31)
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Ac.5:15 "Shadow of Peter" (1 of

    "Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them."

    What is the shadow of Peter but he is set as the double for Christ so his words and works are as though coming from him? "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greaterworksthan these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."( John 14:12). So what Peter signified was the continuation of the ministry of Jesus and now having risen it is demonstrated in such 'little ones' as Peter and other disciples. They were in a manner of speaking the lightening rod for a spiritual awakening on earth. But they were beaten stoned and were abused as the prophets in former times that Jesus had warned, "behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues,"(Matt.23:34-36) But Jesus had assured, "but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven."( Luke 10:20). Their place in the day of regeneration was tied up with the cloud of witnesses that cast its shadow. Peter as a man was meant to shed his vile body and put onthe glorious body which God had prepared in his Son. These witnesses, angels also were part of it. We have several instances that these two worlds moved as one, which we shall take up anon. It illustrated He.11:3 that the world unseen is not yet completed.

    "Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,/Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. (He.12:1-2)
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Very true brother Jesse. That has happened to me a couple of times, when I inadvertently hit the 'Amen' button (on the phone of course - can't happen on my desktop computer) & regretted being so careless as my finger hovered to close to the screen (the Lord does understand, I know). But I did see a positive side to this 'Amen' feature. When you check on your 'Amen' status (under Your Comments), how you perceive & reflect on the amount of 'Amens' you've gotten, can be a wake-up call to the old 'pride/humility or anger/self control' reaction. Will the person who has received only a dozen 'Amens' or 80,000 Amens display the correct spiritual response? Having said that, I rarely look into that Amen storehouse, but when I do, I go in spiritually prepared with the whole armor on. GBU.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hi Giannis,

    Here you have touched the key to abundant life in Christ. The covenant under the third day, we have this verse,"And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good./And the evening and the morning were the third day"(Ge.1:12-13). What is sown is a a seed it is 'the seed was in itself'. It is the word of God and it requires time to mature. " It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:"(1 Co.15:43) Anyone coming to Christ has to die to the world and sin. Faith and works of the believer is in becoming like 'after his kind' that is becoming Christlike. Isaiah's song of my beloved touching his vineyard ends up, strangely."What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?"(Is.5:1-5) Israel's heart was not right in the sight of God. " I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing." So the problem lies in one who says he is a branch but his heart is not fully with it.
  • GiGi - 2 weeks ago
    Hello friends,

    Please pray for my son Brian and his wife. He just came over and told us that his wife miscarried their first baby a few weeks ago. They had not disclosed they were expecting to us so this was a surprise to us. With our other son and wife having a new baby, Rose, this is especially hard for them. Apparently, the baby stopped growing at 9 weeks and died and she miscarried at 11 weeks. We are sad for them. Brian is 40 and Elfe is 38, so we pray for her to heal well and for them together to be helped in their grief. We also pray for God to bless them with another baby soon and a safe and successful pregnancy to bring a new child into their and our lives.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Yes, Jesse and Momsage,

    Recliners are great. Mine helped my back heal.

    We needed to put all of our living room furniture in storage for our remodel. My recliner was kind of worn and a bit broken, so we put it behind our garbage cans for the next dump run. I was going to get a new one. Well, after sitting in regular chairs for two weeks my back was aching and spasming really painfully. I knew I needed to sit in a recliner and my new one would not arrive for 8-10 weeks. So, needless to say, the old recliner got pulled out from behind the garbage bins and put under the canopy of our outdoor make-do kitchen area. So, I am keeping it there until the new one arrives and we can move everything back into the living room!

    I had not had spasm like that since 2020, so it reminded me of how bad my back was then and how much God heals us, not all in the same way, but my back was pretty well rehabbed until this episode. So Lazy-Boy has made my life easier and less painful. I am grateful for this invention more than ever!
  • Jesse - 2 weeks ago
    My dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

    If there's one thing about this site that annoys me, it's you all. No, I'm just kidding! None of you could possibly annoy me as I love you all in the Lord.

    What does annoy me is that little "Amen" button at the bottom of each post. Why? Because if you're like me, and I'm sure many of you do this also, sometimes you use your cell phone to read and post messages. Well, this has happened to me at least a dozen times to where I would be scrolling through my screen, and while scrolling, I accidently touch the "Amen" button. You know you did it because a pop-up comes up and "Amen, thank you!"

    Now it's like what in the world did I just say amen to? Like I said, this has happened to me several times now, and some of the things I accidently said amen to, I totally disagreed with. I know the Lord's not going to hold that against me for accidently agreeing with something I totally disagreed with, but if this has happened to anyone else, you got to admit it is a little annoying, and you can't take it back!

    I know I'm just whining a bit, but I guess I just ran out of something else to say, so I guess I'm off to bed.

    Goodnight and blessings to you all!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hi Ken747,

    This is a great site to come and fellowship together in God's word. I'm glad you have found this website. I am sorry to hear about your friend. There are many here, including myself that will lift up your friend Robin in prayer to the Lord. Have you shared the gospel message with her? The prayers of many here will be heard, but perhaps the Lord might use you to witness Jesus Christ to her in person if that's an option for you.

    May God's will be done!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Momsage,

    No worries, I completely understand. Yes, recliners have to be one of the greatest inventions. I love mine. I wonder if it was a lazy person who came up with the idea?

    As far as your question asking me if I have found conflict between the Greek (Textus Receptus) and the King James Bible, I'll just say that I have found several places in the KJB (NT) that could have been worded differently, places where a word from the Greek text has a different meaning than what was translated into English for us.

    If you are asking me to share with you every single place in question, this is not something I can do in a short amount of time, but I am willing to share with you everything I have found as time permits. Perhaps we can start with Matthew first and work our way through Revelation. Or, if you have something else in mind, I am open, so please let me know.

    I do hope you get some good rest, and with our current discussion, please take whatever time you need. I trust that you will get back with me as the Lord leads. Who knows, I'm not even sure if I'll be on here tomorrow!

    God Bless!!!
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hi

    John 15:2

    Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

    Why doesn't a branch in Christ bear a fruit? It is a branch, isn't it? So if it a natural thing to have fruit what makes it to not make one?

    John 15:7

    If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    John 15:10

    If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

    So for one to abide in Christ, His words must abide in them, and in simple words they must keep His commandments. This is not natural, it is a disicion we make and succeed through God's/Jesus' grace
  • Richard H Priday - 2 weeks ago
    Psalm 1143:3 For the enemy hath persecuted my soul; he hath smitten my life down to the ground; he hath made me to dwell in darkness, as those that have been long dead.

    1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

    The clash and contrast between light and darkness is at a fevered pitch in our time. Psalm 7:15 states He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. Sin is a reproach to anyone; Proverbs 14:34 says Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. Thus the sins of individuals collectively bring down everyone who is not one of God's children.

    My own situation has shown me how elderly people who used to be characterized as having a nice personality show their true nature when running out of options in life. This can have the opposite effect on some who were always nasty; and of course the Lord can intervene; as long as their is breath there is hope; or as Ecclesiastes 9:4 states For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

    Proverbs 9:8 says Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee. Those who God has called and chosen will be drawn through warnings of their sinful state; in fact they will be thankful always to find the remedy as only the sick need a physician ( Luke 5:31). In contrast the wicked cannot love God or rebuke; they will only try to avoid the consequences of their actions through self justification or somehow thinking their "good works outweigh the bad". 2 Corinthians 7:10 says For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. Thus; the wicked through conviction are led to self destruction and the righteous have the opposite fate.

    The final battle of Armageddon draws ever nearer. May we all be ready at His coming.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hi Giannis,

    Salvation is only secured in Christ. The believer abides in Christ as a branch bearing fruits. His works are natural product of his faith. Faith without works is dead. Predestination is thus matching the calling of God (the book of life) with the book of the Lamb. Those who worship the beast lose their names in the book of the Lamb. "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

    The Father does not judge anyone and has left it to the Son.

    Predestination has the final word with Jesus Christ. " For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;"(Col.1:19-20)
  • Giannis - 2 weeks ago
    Hi Bennymkje

    The verse in Peter 1:10 you mentioned shows in a very obvious way that salvation is never secured. Otherwise there ix mo reason for that " make your calling and election sure" . So isn't salvation sure? If we don''t do all those things mentioned in the previous verses, no it is not. This is obviously against predestination the way some believe it. Because it shows that even if God had selected some for salvation, the final outcome depends on the individual, not God. Predestination implies secured salvation, otherwise it can not be applied.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hi Bennymkje

    The verse in Peter 1:10 you mentioned shows in a very obvious way that salvation is never secured. Otherwise there ix mo reason for that " make your calling and election sure" . So isn't salvation sure? If we don''t do all those things mentioned in the previous verses, no it is not. This is obviously against predestination the way some believe it. Because it shows that even if God had selected some for salvation, the final

    outcome depends on the individual, not God. Predestination implies secured salvation, otherwise it can not be applied.
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Ac.13 :11-12 "Doctrine of the Lord"

    "And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand." Here we have the poster boy for heresies so the doctrine that Elymas peddled was to make Saul/Paul's preaching in vain. The imposter churches in our times are reeking with such poor specimens as false teachers. They deny the power of God and make his holiness as in vain. They divide congregation on ethnic lines and sustain culture wars fought in the secular world as part of White Evangelical Right and so on. So Paul calls him out, "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?" The right ways of the Lord is created in 'our image' and 'after our likeness', so the third beast before the throne of heaven, is the steward over his creation.The last Adam is after the likeness of the firstborn of all creation. The Command number Three also makes third beast as was intended.

    What St Paul binds on earth is bound in heaven as well. When he said, "Thou shalt be blind' it happened. God's promises are yea in him. It owes to the Word was God. "Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord." The doctrine of God is what the memorials in heaven attest.

    "And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him" (Re.4:8). The golden lamp stand with seven branches in the inaugural vision of St John represents Christ in the middle with three branches on either side. Each beast is thus 'after the likeness' of Christ.

    This is the doctrine of the Lord we represnt. "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."(Re.2:5)
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    2 Pe.1:10 "Calling and election sure."

    Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:"

    "Ye shall never fail" this certainty of a believer called to be saint is because the foundation of God stands sure. "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."(2 Ti.2:19) The seal is the blood of Jesus. The slain Lamb before the throne signifies it. He is worthy because his atonement covered the calling of the elect.. (He)"hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof, tells " he overcame the world. (Re.5:5; John 16:33). Faith is what the elect requires. St Peter exhorts them to show qualities of being built up on his foundation. Diligence, as the Spirit instructs us a virtue the ants witness. "Consider its ways' (Pr.6:6). Of the four beasts the lion represents them; the eagle represents the quality of faith and hope. "Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth."(Col.3:2). Third beast is the last Adam. Second beast has face of a calf, reflecting the stewardship of Adam who as Jesus said, "Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many."(Matt.20:28). In short virtues required for the elect are memorials in heaven, and as the key verse informs, "For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.". Without fully understanding predestination as set, a testimony in heaven and without works in his Son what are these half-baked Christians?. It is on one of such St Peter said, " Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God." (Ac.8:18-21) They want it both ways. Oh no God is not mocked by excuse of being ignorant. (Ro.1:18-21)
  • Jaz - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Dear Wendy , it doesn't sound to me as if this man is commited to you in a romantic way . Maybe he just sees you as a friend . I think maybe you need to try to put him out of your heart and move on . It's not easy I know , when you have invested so much of your time and energy into a relationship it can be very hard to let it go . You have to put yourself first because no one else will . You have to protect and preserve yourself . People come and go in and out of our lives , it's not a stable world that we live in and we cannot control the behaviour of others . We can however do our best to control ourselves with God's help . What have you learned from your relationship with this man ? Whatever it was , don't forget the lesson . Move on . Put more effort in your relationships with your God and your Saviour , build on that strong foundation , read your Bible , say your prayers and find a good church . Maybe in time God will bring the right man to you but don't be in a rush . Get closer to God and Jesus before you think of getting entangled romantically again . Life is change and we humans don't always like change . God and Jesus don't change . They are steadfast in their judgements and guidance and love and caring ways towards us , put yourself totally into their hands and wait patiently . You may end up without a partner but you will never ever be without a best friend .
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re.5:7-14 "Predestination"

    As soon as the Lamb takes the book the body of four and twenty elders and he four beasst worship him, "Saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;/And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." Here we have the predestination established in heave. Thus judgment is set and books were opened. This is in the "now" of divine Will. The book of life and book of the Lamb are already matched where the works of those judged are 'closed' as the man in the linen tells Daniel, "And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?/ And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end./ Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." (Dan.12:8-10)

    Predestination is the prerogative of God and it is the body of the church where four and twenty elders (8x3=24) tells us of the Gospel of God and that of Christ. In the white throne judgment those who are judged are according to their response to it. What occurs according to the breaking of seal are on earth.

    Israel was called but they are cast off because they did not gather with the Man who was sent. "For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath."(Matt.25:29).
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re:5:1 "The book"

    "A book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."

    The book written within and on the back-side is transcribed having a body and are set before the throne. First we have this quote from St Paul. "Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men/Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart" (2 Co.3:2-3). St Paul writes of believers as 'our epistles written not with ink," What does the body of the four beast represent? They are memorial to the body of the church and the Gospel of God and of Christ. "were four beasts full of eyes before and behind." They represent the Gospel of God as the world unseen and the gospel of Christ as 'the works' or fulfilment of the work of God. What is the work of God? Jesus explained it, "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."( John 5:28-29). In the white throne of Judgment. "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."(Re.20:12)

    The four beast are memorial and the Spirit instructs us what the body of man formed from the ground signify. As a living soul his faculty to know and understand the truth is like the book written on the backside. Eyes behind the backside refers to his inner life where "The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly."(Pr.20:27) Eyes before is how he ought to interact with the world. They are represented in the Lamb which is worthy to break open the seals. "and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." The spirit of Christ is already sent out and the the word become flesh shall manifest in due time.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    The one commandment that begins with "remember", everyone is taught to "forget".
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re.5:5 "The seven seals" (2 of 2)

    The book with seven seals however holds another significance clue to which salvation or redemption of bodies has bearing. The risen Christ has the message for the church of Philadelphia, "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;" (Re.3:7) Note it is addressed to the angel which is already set in his right hand."The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches:" (Re.1:20)

    These seven stars are of same significance as the same value the seven seals hold. They are under the authority of Jesus Christ who figures as the Ancient of days. Days refer to day of salvation as well as day of regeneration,

    In this context consider the saying of Jesus."Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."(Matt.18:18). The great commission spells it out in Matt.28:20. "His authority to break open the seven seals empower the disciples to be set down on twelve thrones and judge the twelve tribes of Israel. It is thus when Christ comes in his glory with holy angels the saints shall meet the Lord in mid-air. They are compared to eagles. (Is.40:31). The same eagle motif we find as memorial before the throne. The four beasts where the beast with the face of man is last Adam. "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./ And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."(Dan.7:13-14)
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re.5:5 "The seven seals" (1 of 2)

    "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

    In order to consider the nature and significance of Regeneration we shall begin with the word of God. The book represents just that. God framed the worlds with the word to which the book refers. (He.11:3). In the night vision of Daniel we are told it opened. "the judgment was set, and the books were opened."(Dan.7:10). The book of life and the book of the Lamb are to match. Daniel's night vision does not indicate any action taken on them. Instead in Revelation we have the white throne judgment. This throne is not the fiery throne where the Ancient of days sat. "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Re.20:12) So much so for the books opened.

    The book with seven seals however holds another significance clue to which salvation or redemption of bodies has bearing. The risen Christ has the message for the church of Philadelphia, "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;" (Re.3:7) Note it is addressed to the angel which is already set in his right hand."The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches:" (Re.1:20)

    These seven stars are of same significance as the same value the seven seals hold. They are under the authority of Jesus Christ who figures as the Ancient of days. Days refer to day of salvation as well as day of regeneration,
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 weeks ago
    Hello Momsage,

    Thanks for continuing on with this discussion. I was taught how to read Koine Greek and was given a copy of the Textus Receptus (Greek New Testament) during one of our class studies. We had 20 plus people in the class and the pastor who was teaching the class handed everyone in the room a copy to keep.

    To this day, I do not know who purchased all those copies for the entire class. It wasn't the pastor. He told us that someone had purchased them for the entire class but the person wished to remain anonymous. I can sincerely say that what I learned in that class was a true blessing. I do refer to the Greek text quite a bit during my NT studies. It is just my personal choice to do so. That is the text I was referring to.

    Personally, I wish it was a requirement for every person going into the ministry to master Biblical Greek before being ordained into the ministry. I don't think that we in the body of Christ would be in such a mess if that were the case.

    As I'm sure you know, the New Testament was originally written in Greek. Praise God for that! Since the New Testament is mainly doctrine and teaching, I think it had to be an exact language, and with Greek being such an exact language, I don't think it could have been any other way!

    May God continue to bless you also!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 weeks ago
    Shantel,

    Thank you for taking the time to read through my lengthy post. I have read through what you sent to me but I am struggling to see how this adds to or fits with what I presented concerning predestination? Am I missing something here?

    I have been reading your posts over the past week, and your response to my message on predestination seems to fit more closely with the things you have been sharing over the past week than they do with what I just posted about predestination, especially with the verses you have provided. Again, maybe I missing something?

    Concerning salvation, what are your thoughts on predestination? Does God "predetermine" who will receive eternal salvation and who will receive eternal condemnation?

    Thanks again, and blessings to you in Christ!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 weeks ago
    Brother Spencer,

    What a great analogy! The inheritance is what has been predetermined for those who receive Christ. For those who reject Him, their fate has also been predetermined. It is man who chooses to receive or reject the things of God. Romans 9:11 (which you have shared) is a great verse. Thanks for that one. It says (For the children being not yet born). So, they hadn't even been born yet. But secondly, we notice what it says: Neither having done any good or evil.

    And then thirdly, the purpose: The reason why God made His choice between Jacob and Esau, before they were born (without them having done good or evil), it is so that the purpose of God could be according to election (His choice), and it might stand, not of works, but of the one who calls;

    So, it didn't have anything to do with Jacob and Esau as to who they were, what kind of people they were, whether they were good or evil, it had nothing to do with works or with man. It had to do with God's choice.

    Blessings to you also!


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