Bible Discussion PAGE 12

  • There is POWER IN JESUS NAME and His BLOOD. - in Reply on Genesis 1
    I guess I say both. Probably because of books I read in the past. You're right. The word isn't in the Bible. When I pray, I say evil spirit.

    One told Jesus it's name was Legion, "because we are many."

    Acts 19:15

    And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

    I think most important is to not respond in any way other than HOW Jesus demonstrates (or Paul) in the scriptures. In my experience, they respect the name of Jesus and his shed blood. I don't like talking about it.

    I was newborn Christian and I had to fight back. They will not cross the blood of Jesus. I was accused for having practiced astrology. I didn't have Bible knowledge yet. I had the Holy Spirit tell me to plead the Blood.
  • Leland Kendrick md - in Reply on Genesis 6
    No Jesus was not born with the spirit

    God the father god the Holy Spirit

    One and the same

    John chapter 1 verse 1 and verse 2

    In the beginning was the word the word was with god and the word was god

    2. The same was in the with god

    3.all things that were made by him

    And without him was not anything made that was made

    4 in him was life and the life was light of men

    Which means god the father god the son and god the Holy Ghost

    Which are the same had no beginning and had no end

    Jesus obviously did have the spirit

    And Jesus had no beginning and no end

    Bless you
  • Chris - in Reply on Luke 1
    Hello John. The Bible that you can read on this Site, is the King James Version & it is different from the Catholic Edition of the Bible. Its chief difference is the inclusion of seven apocryphal books interspersed within the Old Testament of the Bible. Otherwise, apart from some slight differences & word usage, they are very similar.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Brother Earl. The Greek word for 'Convince' that you're seeing in Jude 15 is 'elegcho'. And this means 'to convict, reprove, expose, rebuke, discipline'.

    The word that you believe it means is 'peitho', meaning, 'to persuade, urge, convince' (as in 2 Corinthians 5:11). Therefore, Jude 1:14,15 speaks of the Lord coming with His saints to carry out judgement & convict & expose the remnant ungodly upon the Earth. That they might know clearly their sins & their rightful judgement forever banished from the presence of the Lord, just as Sodom & Gomorrah "suffering the vengeance of eternal fire" ( Jude 7).
  • Earl Bowman
    IS SALVATION CONDITIONAL OR UNCONDITIONAL

    Romans 5:8 For God commendeth his love for us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    No conditions were put on man to be save, it's a gift of God. You were saved before you were ever born and before you ever sinned. ( Romans 9:11)

    Grace is Grace and Mercy is Mercy.

    Revelation 22:12 And behold I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as HIS WORK shall be.

    Matthew 7:22 .... have we not done many wonderful WORKS

    Matthew 7:22 ..... depart from me ye workers of iniquity .... this is man's reward, for man's work...
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Amen Sister GiGI, I knew you would disagree, but there is coming a time when, ALL WILL BE IN UNITY.

    All of this is God's plan, he has set brother against brother and sister against sister. This teaches us, the fruits of the spirit.

    Our thanks to the all knowing God.
  • Chris - in Reply
    Brother Alex. I've been following your comments for many months now. The problem that you have in getting your points across to many of us is because of your definition of biblical terms & Truth.

    People like Earl will appreciate what you write because he appears to understand the Bible in a similar fashion as you do. And I doubt that any amount of wordy exchanges between us would convince one side or the other to the other's belief.

    In the matters of rebirth, hell, Lake of Fire, judgement, the Holy Spirit being a grandson, even the purposes & accomplishments of the Cross, most will always find disagreement with you. And this is because your definition of those doctrines are in variance to what the Bible teaches. If the foundation is not clear & firm, anything we build on it will not be the same & become increasingly divergent. So Bible verses will no longer mean what they're intended to mean & other meanings have to be forced to make them align with our beliefs.

    Let us not diminish the "offence of the Cross". Satan rejoices that an easy path to salvation is presented because he knows that path leads to destruction. The Cross has & always will give forgiveness & hope to the convicted sinner, not a wishy-washy false hope that in the end all will be well. The Cross gives more than God's required payment for our sins - it saves us from an eternity of never-ending torment. If it were not so, there would be no need for such a great sacrifice & the offence of the Cross would have ceased. May we all be careful on how we read, interpret, & share from the Word.
  • Earl Bowman
    WHAT HAPPENS AT JUDGEMENT

    Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, PROPHESIED of these, saying, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

    Jude 1:15 To execute judgement upon all, and to CONVINCE ALL that are ungodly among them of their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

    What happens when Christ, through judgements, convinces them that they are ungodly:

    Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess him as Lord.

    Isaiah 26:9 ...for when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

    Psalms 22:27 And all the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of nations shall worship before thee.

    Jesus CAME TO SAVE SINNERS.
  • Carleton - in Reply
    Thank you GiGi! I will try to follow up sometime.
  • GiGi again - in Reply
    Carelton,

    I pray that you will have a quick and sure recovery. I am not sure of what prophecy you are asking about. Please clarify. I am not one to speak a lot about interpreting prophetic fulfillment in history. I am open to earing people's ideas on this topic. Feel free to clarify more what you are wanting me to explain and I will be glad to respond.
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Dear brother Earl,

    I read your post and cannot agree with what you stated about our Lord, Jesus. I hold to the long held orthodox view that Jesus was wholly God and wholly man in united in one person. This is the understanding of His nature presented by the church in the first 3 centuries of existence as it addressed various other views about Jesus-Arianism, Nestorianism, and others (which we determined to be heretical).

    I hold this view because I believe the Scriptures support this view over the other views people propose about our Lord. Thank you for sharing. We just disagree on this point, and I believe it is a very crucial point. This is why I speak up about it.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Brother Dee, does Jesus blood cover ALL MEN of just SOME MEN. Is it up to man to be saved or up to the saviour when they will be saved. There are ages to come after the age we are now in.

    Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be DESTROYED, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

    Every man born flesh and blood has to be destroyed.

    We are all a son of perdition that has to be destroyed.

    2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall DESTROY with the brightness of his coming ( Hebrews 9:28).
  • John on Luke 1
    is this a catholic bible
  • Rick - in Reply
    Alex N Like I said you can't show what you stated line by line and word by word, you've made

    my point
  • Carleton - in Reply
    Hi GiGi, I had a bit of eye surgery so my thoughts are short for now as well as my reading abilities. Sometime I would like to read more of your thoughts regarding how much prophecy may already be fulfilled.

    Thanks again.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} brothers in UNITY! - in Reply
    Quadruple agreement my Precious brothers Chris, David, And Jesse!

    God would NOT have us "go above 'That Which Is WRITTEN!'" 1Co 4:6 cp Psalms 138:2

    Amen"?
  • Stephanie Beecher
    References for 2nd Esdras 15:3
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} prayers for infirmities - in Reply on Psalms 139
    Precious friend, Gerry Shaver, I will pray for you; please Be Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST

    2 Corinthians 12:9 God's Power Of ALL-Sufficient GRACE in our weaknesses and infirmities:

    "PEACE With God," and knowing what good "tribulation worketh in us" Romans 5:1-5

    "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." Romans 8:18

    The Spirit "helps our infirmities, And Prays For us" Romans 8:26

    The Spirit "Intercedes For us, According To The Will Of God" Romans 8:27

    God Makes "all things Work Together For Good," for HIS Own Romans 8:28

    We are "Predestinated To Be Conformed To The Image Of God's SON" Romans 8:29

    God Helps us "bear our testings" 1 Corinthians 10:13

    We have The Wonderful "Comfort Of God!" 2 Corinthians 1:3-4

    "For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a Far More Exceeding and Eternal Weight of Glory" 2 Corinthians 4:17

    God will "change our vile body" to be "like HIS Glorious Body!" Philippians 3:21

    Amen?

    Conclusion:

    "For our infirmities/sufferings"? Should we not "follow Paul our 'pattern'" 1 Ti 1:16?:

    "And HE Said Unto me, My GRACE Is Sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that The Power of CHRIST may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for CHRIST's Sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong." 2 Corinthians 12:9-10

    Amen? And Amen.

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Carmela Iacco on Luke 13
    Is it really sinful to work or do household chores on a Sunday?
  • David - in Reply
    Jesse A statement was shared with me long ago that stuck, what you can know by the five senses God expects

    you to know and that includes His revealed revelation of His Word because we can see that. So with me Gods Word is what separates truth in anything dealing with life and Godliness. Also you cannot know[Ginosko experienced knowledge]

    if not born again 1 Corinthians 2:14. For now God Bless
  • Rick - in Reply on Genesis 1
    Hi Mishael I'm don't understand something everybody keeps saying the scripture says but when it comes

    to evil spirits it says devils not demons, then i'm gonna hear its all the same if that's true why doesn't it say demons?
  • Adam - in Reply
    I believe Judas will go to hell, because he betrayed Jesus to help murder him for profit. This is like blasphemy and turning his back on Jesus. Peter denied Jesus, which might also be a form of blasphemy, however, I believe Jesus forgave him through a special circumstance- asking if he loved Him three times.

    People are deceived if they believe everyone goes to heaven regardless of how much sick and vile evil they commit against God, like Hitler mass murdering people. Jesus already said most people will go to hell. Just read the gospels and his many parables. They are all similar themes- warning after warning.

    Jesus died for everyone, but forgiveness is contingent upon someone humbling themselves, repenting, confessing, believing, declaring Jesus is Lord and accepting the gift. Acts 2:38 - this requires an action. It doesn't say 'Do nothing and ye shall receive the gift' or 'Keep sinning as much as you want...' Here's another action requirement: repentance: Luke 5:32. Here's another confessing: 1 John 1:9.

    Romans 10:9 - notice the "If..." People don't say "if" unless it's conditional. Salvation is conditional.

    This says to believe: 1 John 5:13. It doesn't say 'not believing is totally fine.' Romans 12:2 - this says to be transformed and to not conform to the world. That's a big bummer for those hoping for a free get out of hell free card to enjoy a lifetime of sin and guilty pleasures. Look at this: John 8:11 and even this: James 2:26. Another: James 4:6. Reading the Bible for what it is paints a very different picture than the little summaries people like to spread around. People who ignore all the Bible's teachings and do whatever they want should be afraid for their soul: Luke 12:5. God bless.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Sister GiGi, I agree with Rick, Christ was born a man like unto us.

    He received the Spirit at the baptism by John. That's why he told John it was of necessity to be baptised by him.

    The Spirit, as the likeness of a dove, was visible evidence of this baptism of Spirit.

    In Isaiah we have the prophecy;

    Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

    Isaiah 11:2 And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom, and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord;

    Isaiah 11:3 And make him of QUICK UNDERSTANDING of the fear of the Lord ....

    Jesus was GIVEN this as a MAN at his baptism of spirit, just as we as MEN are GIVEN THE SAME. He was made to have this, by the Father, not born with it.

    Jesus was not fully man and fully God. He is a BODY FILLED with GOD. He said of myself I can do nothing. If he were fully God he could of him self done All things, but he said I do ALL things through my Father.
  • GiGi again - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Rick, I did not mean to say that you have said that Jesus became the Son of God at His baptism. I am sorry if you took it that way. What I meant was that if one can say that Jesus did not have the Spirit before His baptism, one could also say that He became the Son of God at that time, too. It would be logical to think so. But I do not believe either statement to be true.

    And, you are right, we each are free to believe our own way. I respect that.
  • Jesse - in Reply
    David,

    It is one thing to agree that it is God's Spirit who is our teacher, but to say that His Spirit revealed something, that's something I think should be between the believer and the Lord. But people will use that to try and prove what they are saying is true. I mean, if the Holy Spirit revealed it to them, it must be true right? That's where we have to be careful.

    I've been face to face with people who have tried to convince me of something and then tell me that the Holy Spirit revealed it to them. I love those kind of discussions. My response was that if the Holy Spirit revealed something to you that is fine and dandy. But If God's Spirit does not reveal the same thing to me, it means absolutely nothing! They usually look at me like I'm sort of a smart aleck. And then I like to ask them how do they know it was the Holy Spirit? That question seems to stumble a lot of people.

    I guess we would both be hardliners!
  • Dee - in Reply
    I did not see a place for an offense. Neither did I take one. I am not sure if I was speaking directly to anyone. But I welcome any comments. However, it's one right to freedom of speech to disagree in an agreeable manner. Nevertheless, I hear your statement but I do not agree with your doctrine that we are all born as vessel fit for destruction such as Judas was. Read the Bible. There are some vessels that are fit for destruction and some for honor. Judas Iscariot was fit for destruction from the beginning. It is a damanable doctrine that one would teach that Judas was saved or received salvation. I have heard that lying teaching in other places. But it is a damanable doctrine because it destroys the souls of men and underminds the work of salvation. The devil enter into Judas. Show me when he got cast out of him. Judas went to hell. People are leaving this world every day going to hell. And many ministers or believers are to busy trying to make the pews padded and comfortable. Also, they taper the Word so that it feels good to people. But, I was not created as a vessel for destruction but for honor. No, I was shaped in sin but not destruction there is a difference. I know who I am in Christ Jesus. I am filled with the Spirit of God and have no need of man to teach me who I am. I am just speaking the truth in love. Whether you reject this response or not, it does not really matter. But so far your comment is misleading to all who will read it. It leads away from the shedded blood of Christ. One can preach Jesus but if he is not a bleeding Jesus then people are not saved. You see Judas had sold out the innocent blood. I can preach on this all day. I live what I preach. The blood of Jesus is to be taken and handled in a holy manner. Because as the blood Christ cleanse and saves then it can also destroy. Just start pleading it and a applying it.

    I love you with the love of the Lord

    But I hate error; lies

    Shalom!!?
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply
    Brother Jesse: Joseph was a saviour, just as we are going to be, when Christ and his elect judge the world.

    Obadiah 1:21

    Genesis 45:7 And God sent me before you to SAVE a posterity in the earth, and to SAVE your lives by a great deliverance.



    Genesis 50:20 But as for you, you thought evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to SAVE much people alive.

    Joseph was a shadow as was Moses, Adam, Noah, etc. etc. to reveal the TRUE saviour of ALL MANKIND.
  • Tony - in Reply on Genesis 6
    Thank you Ron! I appreciate your input and will certainly pray for understanding. Hava terrific day!
  • Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 1
    On the red link page, the Apocrypha; if you type giants into the search box; there's a lot more info on giants.

    I don't study that. Mostly, because angels are created by God. The ones that followed satan when he was thrown out of heaven became fallen/evil like Satan (who was created too).

    Scripture teaches when we are caught up to heaven we'll be as the angels: not given in marriage (or dating). Anatomically speaking I don't know what that means. I don't know what the demons are like. Unless they borrow a human body (from the unsaved peoples), they are invisible. Ephesians 6.

    After Noah's Ark, demons would have spirit bodies. Personally, I was attacked by a spirit in which a person whom I quoted scripture to for being involved in spiritism; allowed entry by a demon. It almost broke my neck. I pled the Blood of Jesus and angels took "it" off me and fought it outside in the yard. I heard it.

    This can't happen to a born again Christian.

    It is wisdom to not delve into the supernatural because our "faith" in the credence of it, attracts evil spirits. Better that our faith is STRONG in Jesus's Authority over evil spirits. Don't walk a tightrope unless you are prepared to fall.

    Witches and satanic priests have relations with demons; only invisible beings cannot have mortal body parts.

    Be very careful over your curiosity about forbidden dabbling. Leave this alone. You're being targeted.
  • GERRY SHAVER on Psalms 139
    I may be on the wrong site to ask this but reading your faith points in answers to discuss questions im desperate for prayers im a stroke survivor i rescued a cat but the cat rescued me from depression after stroke i said i know god sent him now my dear thomas is missing for a week today im standing in faith believing i will have him back when youve done all you can do stand and i am but please feel my broken heart and pray he is an indoor cat and slipped out someway im desperate and my back is against the wall it seems like someone has died in my house help in anyway you can words of encouragement scriptures etc


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