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  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re:5:1 "The book"

    "A book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."

    The book written within and on the back-side is transcribed having a body and are set before the throne. First we have this quote from St Paul. "Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men/Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart" (2 Co.3:2-3). St Paul writes of believers as 'our epistles written not with ink," What does the body of the four beast represent? They are memorial to the body of the church and the Gospel of God and of Christ. "were four beasts full of eyes before and behind." They represent the Gospel of God as the world unseen and the gospel of Christ as 'the works' or fulfilment of the work of God. What is the work of God? Jesus explained it, "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."( John 5:28-29). In the white throne of Judgment. "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."(Re.20:12)

    The four beast are memorial and the Spirit instructs us what the body of man formed from the ground signify. As a living soul his faculty to know and understand the truth is like the book written on the backside. Eyes behind the backside refers to his inner life where "The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly."(Pr.20:27) Eyes before is how he ought to interact with the world. They are represented in the Lamb which is worthy to break open the seals. "and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." The spirit of Christ is already sent out and the the word become flesh shall manifest in due time.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    The one commandment that begins with "remember", everyone is taught to "forget".
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re.5:5 "The seven seals" (2 of 2)

    The book with seven seals however holds another significance clue to which salvation or redemption of bodies has bearing. The risen Christ has the message for the church of Philadelphia, "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;" (Re.3:7) Note it is addressed to the angel which is already set in his right hand."The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches:" (Re.1:20)

    These seven stars are of same significance as the same value the seven seals hold. They are under the authority of Jesus Christ who figures as the Ancient of days. Days refer to day of salvation as well as day of regeneration,

    In this context consider the saying of Jesus."Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."(Matt.18:18). The great commission spells it out in Matt.28:20. "His authority to break open the seven seals empower the disciples to be set down on twelve thrones and judge the twelve tribes of Israel. It is thus when Christ comes in his glory with holy angels the saints shall meet the Lord in mid-air. They are compared to eagles. (Is.40:31). The same eagle motif we find as memorial before the throne. The four beasts where the beast with the face of man is last Adam. "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./ And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."(Dan.7:13-14)
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re.5:5 "The seven seals" (1 of 2)

    "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

    In order to consider the nature and significance of Regeneration we shall begin with the word of God. The book represents just that. God framed the worlds with the word to which the book refers. (He.11:3). In the night vision of Daniel we are told it opened. "the judgment was set, and the books were opened."(Dan.7:10). The book of life and the book of the Lamb are to match. Daniel's night vision does not indicate any action taken on them. Instead in Revelation we have the white throne judgment. This throne is not the fiery throne where the Ancient of days sat. "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Re.20:12) So much so for the books opened.

    The book with seven seals however holds another significance clue to which salvation or redemption of bodies has bearing. The risen Christ has the message for the church of Philadelphia, "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;" (Re.3:7) Note it is addressed to the angel which is already set in his right hand."The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches:" (Re.1:20)

    These seven stars are of same significance as the same value the seven seals hold. They are under the authority of Jesus Christ who figures as the Ancient of days. Days refer to day of salvation as well as day of regeneration,
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hello Momsage,

    Thanks for continuing on with this discussion. I was taught how to read Koine Greek and was given a copy of the Textus Receptus (Greek New Testament) during one of our class studies. We had 20 plus people in the class and the pastor who was teaching the class handed everyone in the room a copy to keep.

    To this day, I do not know who purchased all those copies for the entire class. It wasn't the pastor. He told us that someone had purchased them for the entire class but the person wished to remain anonymous. I can sincerely say that what I learned in that class was a true blessing. I do refer to the Greek text quite a bit during my NT studies. It is just my personal choice to do so. That is the text I was referring to.

    Personally, I wish it was a requirement for every person going into the ministry to master Biblical Greek before being ordained into the ministry. I don't think that we in the body of Christ would be in such a mess if that were the case.

    As I'm sure you know, the New Testament was originally written in Greek. Praise God for that! Since the New Testament is mainly doctrine and teaching, I think it had to be an exact language, and with Greek being such an exact language, I don't think it could have been any other way!

    May God continue to bless you also!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Shantel,

    Thank you for taking the time to read through my lengthy post. I have read through what you sent to me but I am struggling to see how this adds to or fits with what I presented concerning predestination? Am I missing something here?

    I have been reading your posts over the past week, and your response to my message on predestination seems to fit more closely with the things you have been sharing over the past week than they do with what I just posted about predestination, especially with the verses you have provided. Again, maybe I missing something?

    Concerning salvation, what are your thoughts on predestination? Does God "predetermine" who will receive eternal salvation and who will receive eternal condemnation?

    Thanks again, and blessings to you in Christ!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Brother Spencer,

    What a great analogy! The inheritance is what has been predetermined for those who receive Christ. For those who reject Him, their fate has also been predetermined. It is man who chooses to receive or reject the things of God. Romans 9:11 (which you have shared) is a great verse. Thanks for that one. It says (For the children being not yet born). So, they hadn't even been born yet. But secondly, we notice what it says: Neither having done any good or evil.

    And then thirdly, the purpose: The reason why God made His choice between Jacob and Esau, before they were born (without them having done good or evil), it is so that the purpose of God could be according to election (His choice), and it might stand, not of works, but of the one who calls;

    So, it didn't have anything to do with Jacob and Esau as to who they were, what kind of people they were, whether they were good or evil, it had nothing to do with works or with man. It had to do with God's choice.

    Blessings to you also!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Chris,

    I agree in every respect, brother. Especially when it comes to judgment. I have to wonder why, if God has already predestined everyone, what would be the purpose of sharing the gospel message of salvation? And why even send missionaries out?

    People talk about the Great Commission and how we need to reach the world for Christ. Why so, if it isn't going to make any difference for those who have already predestined to spend eternity in Hell?

    If it is God's will that no one should perish but that all would come to repentance ( 2 Peter 3:9), it would be difficult to connect all this together as to why God would already predetermine ahead of time who will be saved and who will be lost!

    God Bless!!!
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Do you have a Scriptural or even an historical reference to support your belief? Since you wrote that your belief is based on God's Holy Word.
  • Barbiedoll38 - 2 weeks ago
    I believe the woman the sons of god matted with were judged & cast into the sea, they are called mermaids according to gods holy word
  • Jack nethercot - 2 weeks ago
    Thank you for allowing me to use the service.....Jack Nethercort
  • Jaz - 2 weeks ago
    Thanks to God in Heaven , for His very great mercy and kindness and for an answered prayer . Much love to you all , through Jesus Christ .
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Re.20:12 "The book of life"

    "And another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

    This recalls the night vision of Daniel."The judgment was set, and the books were opened."(7:10). Day of regeneration shall not go out of line with the word of God. The saints redeemed from the earth are priests and kings. They are gathered with Christ as so many sheaves. When Joseph narrated his dream his brethren could not understand it.

    "And Joseph dreamed a dream, and he told it his brethren: and they hated him yet the more./And he said unto them, Hear, I pray you, this dream which I have dreamed:/For, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round about, and made obeisance to my sheaf./And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words." The saints are kings. Similar the other dream relates to the priestly service.

    "And, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me./ And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?/And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying." (Ge.37:5-11)

    "The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."( Ps. 110:4). The term "forever" attest that they are ordained for it in Christ. "Be ye holy, for I am holy."

    Regeneration is where the two worlds are perfected. The unseen world and the seen world match exactly. (He.11:3) That God may be in all explains entering into God's rest.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Please read the first line as follows"

    In continuation to the earlier post the Omega aspect of Christ refers Regeneration. Regeneration is firstly set in terms of the Word which was God from the beginning.
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Dan.12:10 "Regeneration"

    In continuation to the earliest post we can define the Omega aspect of Christ to define Regeneration. Regeneration firstly set in terms of the Word which was God from the beginning. Whosoever believed the word and committed his life to Christ is a new creation. So he is set in the everlasting to everlasting aspect of God's kingdom. "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."(1 Co.15:28)

    The Spirit also adds, "but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

    "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life." The wicked nations both Gentiles and of Israel shall be cast into the lake of fire.

    "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof."(21:23) The saved nations shall walk under the light of the Lamb.

    Think of the holy city of God as represented by an animator's ceil placed over the sheet representing the nations. For their healing the nations shall still require the leaves of the tree of life. "the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." The term 'every month' in 22:2 tells us that they sun and the moon still hold relevance to the nation to keep time.

    "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven." (Ec.3:1) The latter part refers to the nations. Not so with the kingdom of God where it is in the 'now' of the will of God. everlasting to everlasting.
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Dan 12:10 "Purified, white and tried"

    "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."( Dan 12:10)

    Man born of woman has several stages before he is made white. He shall also be tried. It is to which Job says, "But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold."( Job 23:10)

    Ps.139 takes even further where sin of disobedience associated with Adam has its position in the world unseen with is part of the divine Will. The word of God made these appear so David writes this line. " My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth." What is the substance yet being unperfect? The Spirit implies the entire sum total of the man is set in terms of what he shall in his Son may become. That is the free will allowed for him. "Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written."(v.16). By the same token the Lamb has the book of life. For example those who worship the beast are those "whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."(Re.13:8)

    Man is purified by the word of God; as martyr he is made white. "Clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints./And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb." His blessedness come from the everlasting covenant. So he is set down in the everlasting to everlasting kingdom of God. Physically the disciples of Jesus hold time and place. But in the day of regeneration, in the Omega aspect they are set on their thrones "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."(Matt.19:28)
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Is.60:6-7 "The house of my glory"

    "The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the Lord./All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory." This refers to what St John writes in the last book,"And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it." Glory of nations carry symbols and wealth which are seen. Such temporal artifices of man remain only on earth. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God so nations John refers is the earth distinct from the new earth. New heaven and the earth are new to indicate Zion the city of God.(Ps.46:4). Every saint therein has a glorious body and is redeemed from the earth by a covenant. (Ps.50:5). They worship in the beauty of holiness, in Spirit and truth. "for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people."( Is.56:7-8) is Christ Jesus, the head. "all things were created by him, and for him:/And he is before all things, and by him all things consisAll things by him consist in eternity as well. (Col.1:16-19).

    Mine house shall be called the House of prayer for all nations. So naturally they may enter to worship. " And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there."(21:25)

    "Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?"(Is.60:8) Cf. "Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, even thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God."(Ps.84:3). Of what significance is the flying body as a cloud? Here we have the rapture "For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together."(Matt.24:28)
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Dan.12:5-6 "River of time"

    Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river./And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?"

    One on this side of the river is Daniel himself while the other on that side is the angel of the Lord. The name Ulai is merely a label. What is seen is temporal and the Spirit instruct us the river of time to which heart of man signified by a spiritual space is privy to. Blessings enshrined in the everlasting covenant sustain every child of God so empowerment of Christian ministry owes to what are unseen and what proceeds from the throne of grace.My testimony is that each day it has supplied my needs and blessed is my Lord to have poured grace in this earthen vessel sufficient in to the day.

    In eternity when the throne of God and of the Lamb are inaugurated the same flows in the middle. "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb."(Re.22:1)

    By the same token there is judgment.

    In this context let us recall in Mark ch.8 Jesus made the blind man look up before healing. Is heaven up and hell below? There is no centre for cosmos which is science. The Spirit has no use for it in order to instruct us of righteousness or Holiness. The centre is our heart where truth is written 'in inward parts.. So up and down or across are terms we acquaint with relating to worlds of the Spirit and body.
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Job 42:9-10 "Double"

    So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the Lord commanded them: the Lord also accepted Job./And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.

    The Spirit uses twice in the same sense as the double portion with regards to Elisha's Spirit. "So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning. " The days of our years are threescore years and ten."(Ps.91:10) Let us count Job's age, "After this lived Job an hundred and forty years (70x2). But with regards to his children the Spirit gives us this information, "He had also seven sons and three daughters."(42:13). His children taken away on account of Satan's wager is mentioned in the outset."And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters."(1:2). His children were already in the presence of God. It is thus we hold the worlds of the Spirit and of the flesh in the land of the living. The world unseen and the world made to appear are never decoupled. (He.11:3) What is unseen is eternal. This is how we treat death of infants and foetuses owing to man's sins. Similarly we do not accuse God when Israel commit genocide. It proves what the nation cast out of His sight has become. When they turn to Christ they shall be received in the great congregation. The Holy city of God has only single measurement: man-angel'

    The term angel we see often mentioned in the last book. "The revelation of Jesus Christ" "and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John."(Re.1:1) and "And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things./Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book. (22:8-9). Cloud of witnesses correspond to us who were made to appear. What do they urge us? "worship God."
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Thank you very much Brother Jesse.

    That was an enlightening lesson on the topic of predestination.

    I must admit, I didn't quite have that right

    I have heard a teaching similar to that several years ago.

    They used the scenario of a city bus that took the same route every day. It was predestined.

    All you had to do is get on that bus.

    It was your choice.

    It is a free ride, you can't pay for it.

    It is the "WAY" to point B from point A.

    It is the WAY. God's way!

    "THE WAY" is what is elected by God!

    Paralleling with Romans 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, THAT THE PURPOSE OF GOD ACCORDING TO ELECTION MIGHT STAND, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

    IT'S ONLY SAVED PEOPLE GETTING ON THAT BUS! and at the end of the ride is an inheritance.

    God bless you.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Great to have you in this discussion. I will be spending a few says studying up on the biblical description of the state of unregenerated men and women.

    I will certainly appreciate your ideas here.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hi Gigi.

    Sorry for such a delayed response.

    I've been very busy!

    I believe the depravity of man starting from Adam and Eve would be a great topic.

    I'm all in

    God bless you.
  • Shantel - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Jesse

    I would like to add to you comment.

    Predestination is predetermining something.

    Before the foundation of the world God predetermined that he would destroy sinful man from the face of the earth, and conform them to the IMAGE of his SON.

    Matthew 25:34 .... Come, ye blessed of the Father, INHERIT the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

    He chose the cross as his instrument.

    He was going to do this ONLY ONCE.

    In the fullness of time God sent his SON to take all the wrath of God for mankind, not to take the place of mankind, mankind had to also died on that cross.

    Three days latter, to fulfill God's words, God resurrected CHRIST, and ALL mankind was resurrected as HEIRS OF CHRIST, his IMAGE, as he is the IMAGE of the Father.

    He came to fulfill all the scriptures that were written about HIM, the kingdom of God.

    There is more than enough of his speaking to the multitudes to come to the conclusion what his death and resurrection would accomplish: man becoming HIS IMAGE.

    John 17:21 That they ALL may be ONE; as thou, Father, art IN ME, and I IN THEE, that they may be ONE IN US; that the world may believe thou has sent me.

    Mark 10:8 And they twain, shall be ONE FLESH: so then they are no more twain but ONE FLESH.

    Ephesians 2:15 ..... for to make in himself of twain ONE NEW MAN ......

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, I SAID,Ye are gods?

    Psalms 82:6 I have said: Ye are gods; and ALL OF YOU the children of the most high.

    Psalms 82:7 But ye shall DIE LIKE MEN, and fall like one of the princes (Satan).

    This was fulfilled on the Cross of Christ.

    Isaiah 41:23 Shew the thing that are TO COME HEREAFTER, that we may know ye are gods ......

    God Bless You
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 2 weeks ago
    Romans 8:18-25 KJV

    Respond:

    Romans 8:26-27KJV

    'Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. '

    My Respond: To Verse: Romans 8:27

    Luke 23:46-47 KJV 'And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man. '

    At the time of Jesus death has giving direct access to God through Jesus Christ. My faith in this scripture has giving me access to God through prayer.

    Ways you can can have intercession with God is having faith trusting in Jesus death, burial, resurrection.(Gospel)

    Romans 10:9-10 KJV

    'that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 11 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. '
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    2 Ki.6:16-17 "Cloud of witnesses"

    Prophet Elisha had double portion of Elijah's Spirit which tells Elijah was after the likeness of his Son and as a prophet 'after our image'. So according to the provisions of the covenant the Spirit of Christ equipped him to serve. This double portion serves to explain the cloud of witnesses, which are angels made spirit by the breath of God. "By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."( Job 26:13). This has a bearing on the role of the red dragon in the vision of St John. (Re.12:4 a). The angels are witnesses to the soul of man. They testify saints whose faith and works shall not go unrewarded and it was as the double for the Son. "And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:/ God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. "(He.11:39-40). They are perfected with their man part and vice versa. One third of the stars shall thus suffer owing to our lapses. Baptism by fire refers to commit wholly De.6:5

    "And, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha."

    It tells us that Elisha was also standing by his side; he also see his master in the world of the Spirit. This Elisha surrounded by the chariots of fire only a part. Physical body of his master was another part. His inner eye had take both as one. That is the single measurement St John writes about in Ch.21:17

    "And (the angel) he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. Similarly New heaven and New Earth are one part, The other refers to the nations of Israel and the Gentiles. Is.60 refers to these as one. Without drawing this distinction interpretation of the Bible is as what you see and hear, full of heresies. "(Is.28:13) It is thus doctrine of man has arrived at Christian nationalism and prosperity theology.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hello

    Since ancient times the church abandoned the Sabbath and have had the church service on Sundays. The very vast majority of all the churches worldwide do that. Apart from very very few that still keep the Sabbath. So thinking that those very very few do the right thing and all the rest, millions and millions of christians since ancient times have been deceived is a little bit "strange" to believe. Only to those few did God reveal His Word? This kind of thinking is dangerous.

    Colossians 3:16-23, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

    17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    19And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

    20Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

    21(Touch not; taste not; handle not;

    22Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

    23Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh."

    The above says that we should not let people judge us for not eating meat, nor drink, or not keeping the Sabbath because all those things in the Old Testament was a shadow of things to come. All those things served for a purpose until the whole truth through Jesus Christ was revealed to us.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 weeks ago
    Hi Tdianne

    Romans 12:1, "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."

    In the Old Testament the priests used to sacrifice animals, as well as other things, to God. It was the offerings at that time. Now God asks for our bodies, ourselves, as an offering to Him. To sacrifice ourselves which means to sacrifice our lives, our ambitions, everything that we wish, we like or love that is against His Will. To be holy. This kind of offering is acceptable to God.

    And goes on in verse 2, "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

    That "not be conformed to this world" is exactly the sacrifice God asks from us.
  • Tdianne - 2 weeks ago
    what is a spiritual sacrifice?
  • ExposeAllEvil - 2 weeks ago
    I just finished watching "The Days of Noah," four part video series and am confused about the primary emphasis being "The Sabbath Day." They make a very strong case for keeping the original Sabbath Day holy, and that it was not just for Israel, but for all. I firmly believe that all of the churches having services on Sunday, instead of the Sabbath, is one of the reasons the world is in a state of major despair and chaos, aside from the fact that Luciferian globalist trillionaires are using their wealth and power to deliberately cause chaos. However, there are some preachers and pastors who claim it is Ok to have church services on Sunday, or any day of the week, and they say something about rightly dividing the Word of God, or the Old Testament from the New Testament, but I'm at a loss trying to justify this statement when searching for answers in the Bible.

    I disagree with this because God's commandments clearly states, "Remember, to keep the Sabbath Day Holy," and that day is Saturday, not Sunday, regardless. That is the very specific day God Blessed. Has the whole world been led astray by the Roman Catholic Church? It sure does seem that way, and I'm inclined to believe that as soon as churches begin switching back to the original Sabbath Day, the Vatican will use it's power to enforce Sunday Law, because there are certain powers, or something, that is giving orders to the Vatican, and it's not God. Just look at the abominable wooden artwork in the Vatican. Is this where we are headed? What are your thoughts on this matter? I posted this comment on Facebook and it has caused all sorts of anger, rage, and hatred, in people. How can we get past this and reach the truth for all? It sure seems like the wicked are trying their hardest to mess things up for all of us. I've prayed for discernment and I know what I believe, but how can we get the whole world to believe what God wants from us?
  • Bennymkje - 2 weeks ago
    Mark 8:22-26 "Inner man"

    Since God made man a living soul, the world of the Spirit is set in his direct line of vision. Jesus healed a blind man at Bethsaida. He made him look up signifying what makes man truly see which is different than looking. Leading him away out of the town holds significance. First his inner man has to be properly oriented vis-a-vis God. It is called single eye. "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light./ But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! "(Matt.6:22-23)

    Jesus 'asked him if he saw ought./And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking." It is not what he required but physical healing. Nevertheless he sees angels as trees' Finally when fully restored ' he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town." It was for him alone and in healing his blindness he was set in a correct alignment with the world of the Spirit. It was for him to get on with his life as he ought to lead.

    Another occasion we have from the life of Prophet Elisha. "And Elisha prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

    18 And when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the Lord, and said, Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.

    19 And Elisha said unto them, This is not the way, neither is this the city: follow me, and I will bring you to the man whom ye seek. But he led them to Samaria.

    20 And it came to pass, when they were come into Samaria, that Elisha said, Lord, open the eyes of these men, that they may see. "And, behold, they were in the midst of Samaria."(2 Ki.6:17-20)


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