Thank you for your reply, I am so grateful for your answer. I agree with what you say about the mind. I am now listening to your first and second masterclass on youtube and I find this knowlwdge very powerful indeed. This teaching is totally new to my ears and I consider myself a truth seeker. I work in the spa and wellness industry and meet people 1:1. Any suggestion to how I can be of service to them and contribute to wake up to the truth? Almost everybody wants to be fixed by a therapist and forget the why they are off pist. How to help them to help themselves, that goes for me too.
On the mount of transfiguration He gave a few of His disciples a peek at His glory and they were astonished, drew back, and fell down to the ground. Just that peek stayed with these apostles for the rest of their lives, as did Paul's encounter with the Resurrected and glorified Christ.
No one can see God and live, the Word says. But we will behold God with our eyes in the face of Christ forever in the life to come. And that will be completely satisfying for us. Seeing Jesus is seeing God and also seeing that He became man for our salvation. God and Man in one Person forever. Hebrews tells us to fix our eyes upon Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith. We keep our eyes on Jesus by knowing Him through the intake of His Words in Scripture.
Richard, thank you for participating with me on this topic of our Great God. He is so worth studying and knowing more deeply. Let us press on to know Him more and more.
Richard, to continue. Jn 1:18 says that we have seen God's glory in Christ, but in verse 18 says no one has seen God at any time, save the Son. Same for 1Jn. 4:12, no man has ever seen God. (also Jn. 6:46).
God's Spirit lives in us, but is invisible and does not take up any physical space within us. This is true of the Father and Jesus, who also abide in believers.
So, how do we conceive of an invisible God? First of all, we believe that He is (He. 11:6) and we must obey His command to not attempt to make any image of Him in our minds or in a physical object. He determined that it is best for us to not know what He looks like in His essence, lest we make an idol of the image we see. We are to come to Him through the eyes of faith, but not through seeing Him with our physical eyes. Jesus told Thomas after Thomas touched and viewed His wounds, blessed are those who believe who have not seen.
I also think that God determined that we cannot view Him in His Divine Essence because if we did, we would be destroyed by His holiness, majesty, and greatness. Note the responses of Isaiah, Ezekiel, John when they had a vision of the Lord on the throne and in Revelation 1 (John). They came unglued and fell down as if dead. And this was with a manifestation. God hides even in these manifestations. God's dealings with mankind in Biblical times was long before the present times where we have cameras and ability to video. God doesn't want to give us an image to worship. We are to worship Him in truth through the Spirit, not in a carnal or sensual way (as to using our senses). yet we can worship with words, preaching, singing, shouting, and with our bodies, clapping, raising hands, and dancing like David. But God wants us to do so reverently, not imitating the world and pagans. God's invisibility protects us from that type of idolatry.
Jesus is the ultimate revelation of God in a human body. He did not show God in His Divine Essence. His Divinity was cloaked by His humanity.
I was thinking of posting about God being invisible. I am glad you did. The Scriptures clearly teach that God in His essence is invisible. At times He appears in theophanies where He is seen in a form, but this is a manifestation of Him (flame and voice in burning bush, materialized angel along with two angels visiting Abraham, pillar of cloud/fire, shekinah glory in the tabernacle), not seeing Him in His true essence. He dwells in unapproachable light ( 1 Ti. 6:16), a God who hides, (Is. 45:15).
John says that God is Spirit ( Jn. 4:24), not 'a' spirit, but pure spirit only, not having a physical form (Dt.4:12) Because of His infinity, He is not bound by a body made of matter taking up a specific amount of space and subject to time. , His Being does not take up portion of space, rather His Being is all encompassing of all that there is, everywhere present, filling heaven, earth and eternity. Before creation there was no space, only God's being. He has no wight, no mass, no form, no taste, no smell, nothing tangible that can be sensed by physical human senses, so He is imperceptible by physical means.
If He did not reveal Himself to humanity leaving evidence of His power and majesty in creation, in His visitations to godly men, and in what He spoke to the patriarchs, prophets, and apostles to record in Scripture, humanity would not know of His existence or know Who He is or What He is like. He is transcendent, completely separate and unlike anything He created. Mankind is made in His image in some ways, but He is so much more, higher, and other than the image of God created in humans. His existence is inferred because of the effects of His actions. Otherwise, He would be completely unknowable to us. He put limits on us as to His visibility. He is real a real Being, with mind, consciousness, will, and all the attributes we speak of here. But He determined that we cannot and will not be able to see Him in His essential nature. We will see Him in Christ.
Momsage thank you for your kind words and for your comment. Its good to have another KJB believer on this site, you are very much welcomed here. It is really sad that so many people including pastors are using modern version bibles today, that is a prophecy being fulfilled ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) v3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;"
v4 says "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables". They turn from the truth?
( John 17:17) "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth". They turn from the True Word of God, the KJB!
( Ps 119:89) "For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven".
That means the Word of God will never change! Yet every modern version bible does (change) the words.
There's a site that you might really like, it shows patterns that only God could have been in control of in translating the KJB, and the KJB ONLY.
Search (Truth is Christ) on youtube and watch some of the videos, it proves the KJB is the True Inspired Word of God.
This will be a really good tool for you to use in Bible study if you want to compare Bibles, it called (Bible Hub).
I do look forward to seeing you post some of your future Bible studies on the KJB.
You didn't answer my question, Frankie, but again, just spoke pejoratively about me. I do want to know what I posted that is unscriptural in your judgment. No need to judge me as a person, just speak to what I have posted. If you will not answer my question only, then I will exit this conversation with you.
May I ask, do you set aside Saturday as the sabbath as the 4th commandment says? I am not part of an denomination that worships on Saturday. I actually can't go to church because of my disabilities but, even if I could, I don't know of any church that has services on Saturday and that teaches ,what I believe, is true doctrine. I certainly wouldn't condemn any one who worships on
Sunday, that wouldn't be Christ like, but I honestly believe that in the end times God's true believers will use the KJV and worship, maybe even in secret, on Saturday. (not prophesying, just wondering :))
What an amazing study and I'm going to follow your example and do a study of the KJV bible this way. I do love the KJV, it is the only version I have ever used because when I gave my heart to the Lord in 1971 it was the only one in the churches. So when the KJV started to be replaced by "modern" versions I was truly sadden as other versions started taking it's place and now it is hard to find one anywhere in churches among the congregations and the pastors. I have done a comparison of some of the other versions and when I used information from videos of comparisons being done, I always verified what they were saying by going to the other version to be sure it really said what they claimed. Sometimes they were actually wrong, but most of the time they were right that the other version's translation DOES change doctrine, etc. God Bless You
Yes, I agree, we are on the same page here. Jesus taught the same 10 Commandments. Jesus came not to take away the law but to fullfil and he even emphasized the law (10 Commandments) to an even higher level here: Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Very strong verse emphasizing that Jesus expects us (Christians) to follow these commandments.
When Jesus was asked which commandment is the most important He responded: Matthew 22:37-40 This confirms the importance for us to follow God's Commandments and Jesus includes another: that we should love our nieghbor as ourself.
I also agree, that Jesus and his apostles, including Paul followed God's 10 Commandments and taught the early church body to follow them. True Christ followers will adhere to these teachings as they will be encouraged by God's Holy Spirit to live in the light and serve Him in Spirit!
The Father does ALL THINGS through the SON, Christ Jesus.
The son has a GOD (Spirit) and a FATHER (spirit of truth and LIFE), there are TWO not THREE. Christ is the BODY of his GOD, as we are the BODY of his SON, Christ. Christ ONLY speaks and does as his Father CAUSES him TO WILL and TO DO; as we ONLY WILL and DO as Christ CAUSES us to will and to do.
1 John 2:22 .... he is anti-christ (anti-truth) that denieth the Father and SON ..... TWO not THREE.
True, I have not found the word trinity in the Bible, and it is a man made word to explain the (3) that bear witness in heaven.
The bible tells us the following:
Genesis 1:26
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
In the above verse it says: "And God said, Let US make in our own image,
Who is God referring to when He says US? God could have said I will make, but instead He said "Let US make"
I believe that we find the answer to who the US is, in this verse:
1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
There are three that bear record in heaven!
The word Trinity meaning:
-the Christian Godhead as one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
-a group of three people or things
People refer to: trinity, triune, etc.
There are (3) entities in heaven, God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Amen
True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament."
Well, God's 10 Commandments are identical to Christ's Commandments. Christ didn't change, minimize or abbreviate them in any way. Christ is the Creator of all things and He created the Commandments - there would be no reason for Him to change or rescind any of them.
Christ speaks of obeying the Law, the 10 Commandments, just as they are taught by the scribes and Pharisees in Matt. 23:1-3. He says to "do as they say, but not as they do" because the teachers of the Law at that time were all hypocrites. They taught the 10 Commandments, but kept none of them. That passage proves that Jesus taught the literal keeping of the 10 Commandments, not just the essence, or spirit, of them in our hearts, etc.
Jesus stated, as you pointed out, that He kept all of the Father's 10 Commandments physically when He declared it in John 15:10.
We see that 1 John makes clear that we are to live as Jesus lived, obeying what He obeyed, in 1 John 2:6. That does not support the modern popular teaching that we are only to obey them in spirit. And if Jesus had any intention of teaching that Christians did not need to keep them literally, we would not have the record of the disciples keeping the Saturday Sabbath immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56. We also would not see Paul being labeled by the elders as a "Keeper of the Law" in Acts 21:24.
"IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments."
I would agree with this, but that just means that the vast majority of professed Christians today are not filled with the Holy Spirit because most Christians do not obey the 10 Commandments.
Jesus says that it is the keeping of the 10 Commandments that is pre-requisite for receiving 'HIM' as the Holy Spirit in John 14:21.
True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament."
Well, God's 10 Commandments are identical to Christ's Commandments. Christ didn't change, minimize or abbreviate them in any way. Christ speaks of obeying the Law, the 10 Commandments, just as they are taught by the scribes and Pharisees in Matt. 23:1-3. He says to "do as they say, but not as they do" because the teachers of the Law at that time were all hypocrites. They taught the 10 Commandments, but kept none of them. That passage proves that Jesus taught the physical keeping of the 10 Commandments, not just the essence, or spirit, of them in our hearts, etc.
Jesus stated, as you pointed out, that He kept all of the Father's 10 Commandments physically when He declared it in John 15:10.
We see that 1 John makes clear that we are to live as Jesus lived, obeying what He obeyed, in 1 John 2:6. That does not support the modern popular teaching that we are only to obey them in spirit. And if Jesus had any intention of teaching that Christians did not need to keep them literally, we would not have the record of the disciples keeping the Saturday Sabbath immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56. We also would not see Paul being labeled by the elders as a "Keeper of the Law" in Acts 21:24.
"IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments."
I would agree with this, but that just means that the vast majority of professed Christians today are not filled with the Holy Spirit because most Christians do not obey the 10 Commandments.
Jesus says that it is the keeping of the 10 Commandments that is pre-requisite for receiving 'HIM' as the Holy Spirit in John 14:21.
True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament.
Luke 9:23"And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."
John 14:15"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Keeping God's 10 Commandments - plus the additional commandment that Jesus emphasized - to Love each other.
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Jesus warns all of us that we will not enter into Salvation without keeping God's Commandments.
Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments.
It's IMPOSSIBLE to live a worldly life and be a Christ follower.
2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"
- Strive to keep worldly thoughts out of our mind.
- Nothing in this world can compare to God's creations, and what he has promised us if we follow Christ.
- Concentrate on being obedient to Jesus/God's words by turning from fleshy desires and replacing with prayer.
- Pray for the ability to really love everyone as Jesus tells us to do.
Feel free to share your thoughts on obedience to God.
Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man.
God has many warnings in scripture regarding not making idols of created beings or heavenly objects such as the moon and stars. This verse shows how God cannot be reduced to a man made concept or picture."
Would you not then agree that the concept of the trinity falls under such category as an "IMAGE and IMAGINATION OF MAN"?
If the concept is not taught anywhere in the Bible, that succinctly defines it as a creation/imagination of man.
The concept of God being three persons is an IDOL, it is an IMAGE created by the IMAGINATION OF MAN.
This IDOL has been sold to the masses, it has been delivered to hundreds of millions, if not billions, who accept and embrace it without question or personal investigation into its Scriptural authenticity.
Hi Karen, I'm (Jesse A) Not the other gentleman Jesse
That also posts here.
Speaking in tounges is not a (must) to always be interpreted .
Let us look to scriptures to seek the truth and not take verses out of context.
Speaking in tounges is a spiritual gift given from god.
It is not always a known language, like in acts on the day of pentecost.
We can find the answer in Corinthians 1 ch 14. If we read the whole chapter we find the whole truth and wont cherry pick it.
Corinthians 1 ch 14 vs2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
This tells us it is an unknown language, a Holy language .That NO man understands. Including himself. It is the spirit in him that is speaking with God.
The Holyghost in the person speaks in a Holy language speaking directly to God. For edification of himself.
If God sees fit that speaking in tounges is for the church there will be an interpretation.
Now Speaking in tounges with no interpretation is very biblically sound as well .
We find this in the same chapter. 1 Corinthians ch14 vs 4
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Yes by all means pray for the gift of prophecy along with all other gifts of the spirit, that God sees fit for our life and our purpose in him.That we may be obedient to Gods will .
I pray God will Bless you without measure, overflowing. With all the gifts of the spirit according to His will for your life.
One eighty thank you for your comment, I really appreciate your kind words of encouragement.
The words of the LORD are pure words. ( Ps 12:6-7) (pure) is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every.
For the word of God is (quick) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword ( Hebrews 4:12) (quick) #2198 it means to live, alive. The word of God is Alive, the word of God is not confusion!
God is not the author of confusion ( 1 Cor 14:33) (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant, unstable.
All these different modern version bibles that change words and completely leave out whole verses are instability, disorder, they are inconstant, they are unstable! Many have changed their own words several different times! ( 1 Cor 1:10) Telle us "that we all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among us, but that we be perfectly joined together in the same mind"..
( Jer 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
The words of the LORD are pure words, (pure) #2889; sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Mt 4:4)
EVERY WORD!
"For we are not as many, which (corrupt) the word of God".. ( 2 Cor 2:17) (corrupt) is #2585; it means to retail, (to adulterate).
This is doctrine that's not sound doctrine, but it is instability, inconstant, and unstable! ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) IT IS CORRUPT!
Remember the words of the LORD are pure words, they are sound, (unadulterated), uncontaminated.
One eighty look up ( Ps 12:7) in your Niv bible and compare it with the KJB.
Also compare ( Mark 11:26) and ( Eph 3:9) in your Niv with the KJB.
And here's a really big one to compare ( Col 1:14)
This is the definition of (perverted), #2015 it means to change.
The followers of Christ who obeyed the 10 Commandments immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56 were True Christians even if the term wasn't recorded yet. Those who walked along side Christ were Christians while Christ was still alive physically upon the earth.
Yes, many profess to be, and call themselves, Christians today.
Yet True Christians obey the 10 Commandments as Christ obeyed and taught them. ( Jn. 15:10)( Matt. 23:1-3)
"In thee,O Lord do I put my trust: Let me never be put to confusion.
Deliver me in thy righteousness, and cause me to escape; incline thine ear unto me, and save me
Be thou my strong habitation; where unto I may continually resort:
thou hast given commandment to save me: for thou art my rock and my fortress.
Deliver me, O my God, out of the hand of the wicked, out of the hand of the unrighteous and cruel man . For thou art my hope, O Lord God: thou art my trust from my youth
By thee have I been holden up from the womb; thou art he that took me out of my mother's bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.
I am as a wonder unto many; but thou art my strong refuge
Let my mouth be filled with thy praise and with thy honor all the day.Cast me not off in the time of old age; forsake me not when my strength faileth. For mine enemies speak against me; and they that lay wait for my soul take counsel together.
O God, be not far from me; O my God, make haste for my help. My mouth shall show forth thy righteousness and thy salvation all the day, for I know not the number thereof.
I will go in the strength of the Lord God: I will make mention of thy righteousness even of thine only. Now also when I am old and gray headed, O God forsake me not until I have shewed thy strength unto this generation; and thy power to every one that is to come.
Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee! Thou which hast shewed me great and sore troubles, shalt quicken me again, and shalt bring me up again from the depths of the
earth." Psalm 71
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When they first called those who taught and followed Christ, Christians.
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
Lots of people, church goers, different denominations. All saying they're are Christians, when there is only One Christ.
Glory to God on earth as it is in Heaven. God Bless and keep striving.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
The words, scripture, prophecy, and a book all = The KJB.
( Ps 12:6) The (words) of the LORD are pure (words)..
(words) is #565; it means commandment, something said.
( Proverbs 30:6) Add thou not unto his (words) lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(words) in this verse is #1697; it means a book, chronicles, commandment, commune (-cation) promise, saying, sentence, (concerning) thought. (The words we are told not to add unto are in (a book)
( Isa 34:16) Seek ye out of the (book) of the LORD, and read,..
(book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn (-ed) (-ing) letter.
( 2 Tim 3:16) All (scripture) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
(scripture) is #1124; it means a document, i.e. holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it) to grave. to write, to describe.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) The word (scripture) has the same meaning as above #1124, a document, holy Writ.
(prophecy) is #4394; it means prediction (scriptural or other) a foreteller, an inspired speaker.
( Rev 1:2-3) v2 Who bare record of the (word of God) and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear (the words) (of this prophecy) and keep those things (which are written) therein: for the time is at hand.
( Rev 22:18-19) v18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the ((words of the prophecy of this book)), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. v19 And if any man shall take away from the ((words of the book of this prophecy)), God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
( Ps 12:6-7) v7 Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
(preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.
Forgot to mention Finis Dake, they got some old clips of him on YouTube. Audio recording with assorted Bible questions. The Bible he really teaches is not hard. Check him out, you will as I learn that it is not a complicated book. Once you do, you be in the Bible understanding scriptures like it was intended to be. Won't need commentary after, just a dictionary once in a while. God Bless again Brother.
Kind regards
Merete
No one can see God and live, the Word says. But we will behold God with our eyes in the face of Christ forever in the life to come. And that will be completely satisfying for us. Seeing Jesus is seeing God and also seeing that He became man for our salvation. God and Man in one Person forever. Hebrews tells us to fix our eyes upon Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith. We keep our eyes on Jesus by knowing Him through the intake of His Words in Scripture.
Richard, thank you for participating with me on this topic of our Great God. He is so worth studying and knowing more deeply. Let us press on to know Him more and more.
God's Spirit lives in us, but is invisible and does not take up any physical space within us. This is true of the Father and Jesus, who also abide in believers.
So, how do we conceive of an invisible God? First of all, we believe that He is (He. 11:6) and we must obey His command to not attempt to make any image of Him in our minds or in a physical object. He determined that it is best for us to not know what He looks like in His essence, lest we make an idol of the image we see. We are to come to Him through the eyes of faith, but not through seeing Him with our physical eyes. Jesus told Thomas after Thomas touched and viewed His wounds, blessed are those who believe who have not seen.
I also think that God determined that we cannot view Him in His Divine Essence because if we did, we would be destroyed by His holiness, majesty, and greatness. Note the responses of Isaiah, Ezekiel, John when they had a vision of the Lord on the throne and in Revelation 1 (John). They came unglued and fell down as if dead. And this was with a manifestation. God hides even in these manifestations. God's dealings with mankind in Biblical times was long before the present times where we have cameras and ability to video. God doesn't want to give us an image to worship. We are to worship Him in truth through the Spirit, not in a carnal or sensual way (as to using our senses). yet we can worship with words, preaching, singing, shouting, and with our bodies, clapping, raising hands, and dancing like David. But God wants us to do so reverently, not imitating the world and pagans. God's invisibility protects us from that type of idolatry.
Jesus is the ultimate revelation of God in a human body. He did not show God in His Divine Essence. His Divinity was cloaked by His humanity.
I was thinking of posting about God being invisible. I am glad you did. The Scriptures clearly teach that God in His essence is invisible. At times He appears in theophanies where He is seen in a form, but this is a manifestation of Him (flame and voice in burning bush, materialized angel along with two angels visiting Abraham, pillar of cloud/fire, shekinah glory in the tabernacle), not seeing Him in His true essence. He dwells in unapproachable light ( 1 Ti. 6:16), a God who hides, (Is. 45:15).
John says that God is Spirit ( Jn. 4:24), not 'a' spirit, but pure spirit only, not having a physical form (Dt.4:12) Because of His infinity, He is not bound by a body made of matter taking up a specific amount of space and subject to time. , His Being does not take up portion of space, rather His Being is all encompassing of all that there is, everywhere present, filling heaven, earth and eternity. Before creation there was no space, only God's being. He has no wight, no mass, no form, no taste, no smell, nothing tangible that can be sensed by physical human senses, so He is imperceptible by physical means.
If He did not reveal Himself to humanity leaving evidence of His power and majesty in creation, in His visitations to godly men, and in what He spoke to the patriarchs, prophets, and apostles to record in Scripture, humanity would not know of His existence or know Who He is or What He is like. He is transcendent, completely separate and unlike anything He created. Mankind is made in His image in some ways, but He is so much more, higher, and other than the image of God created in humans. His existence is inferred because of the effects of His actions. Otherwise, He would be completely unknowable to us. He put limits on us as to His visibility. He is real a real Being, with mind, consciousness, will, and all the attributes we speak of here. But He determined that we cannot and will not be able to see Him in His essential nature. We will see Him in Christ.
v4 says "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables". They turn from the truth?
( John 17:17) "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth". They turn from the True Word of God, the KJB!
( Ps 119:89) "For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven".
That means the Word of God will never change! Yet every modern version bible does (change) the words.
There's a site that you might really like, it shows patterns that only God could have been in control of in translating the KJB, and the KJB ONLY.
Search (Truth is Christ) on youtube and watch some of the videos, it proves the KJB is the True Inspired Word of God.
This will be a really good tool for you to use in Bible study if you want to compare Bibles, it called (Bible Hub).
I do look forward to seeing you post some of your future Bible studies on the KJB.
God Bless You and all who seek His Truth.
Sunday, that wouldn't be Christ like, but I honestly believe that in the end times God's true believers will use the KJV and worship, maybe even in secret, on Saturday. (not prophesying, just wondering :))
Yes, I agree, we are on the same page here. Jesus taught the same 10 Commandments. Jesus came not to take away the law but to fullfil and he even emphasized the law (10 Commandments) to an even higher level here: Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Very strong verse emphasizing that Jesus expects us (Christians) to follow these commandments.
When Jesus was asked which commandment is the most important He responded: Matthew 22:37-40 This confirms the importance for us to follow God's Commandments and Jesus includes another: that we should love our nieghbor as ourself.
I also agree, that Jesus and his apostles, including Paul followed God's 10 Commandments and taught the early church body to follow them. True Christ followers will adhere to these teachings as they will be encouraged by God's Holy Spirit to live in the light and serve Him in Spirit!
GBU
The us is the FATHER and his SON, two not three.
The Father does ALL THINGS through the SON, Christ Jesus.
The son has a GOD (Spirit) and a FATHER (spirit of truth and LIFE), there are TWO not THREE. Christ is the BODY of his GOD, as we are the BODY of his SON, Christ. Christ ONLY speaks and does as his Father CAUSES him TO WILL and TO DO; as we ONLY WILL and DO as Christ CAUSES us to will and to do.
1 John 2:22 .... he is anti-christ (anti-truth) that denieth the Father and SON ..... TWO not THREE.
God Bless YOU!
God BLESS YOU!
True, I have not found the word trinity in the Bible, and it is a man made word to explain the (3) that bear witness in heaven.
The bible tells us the following:
Genesis 1:26
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
In the above verse it says: "And God said, Let US make in our own image,
Who is God referring to when He says US? God could have said I will make, but instead He said "Let US make"
I believe that we find the answer to who the US is, in this verse:
1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
There are three that bear record in heaven!
The word Trinity meaning:
-the Christian Godhead as one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
-a group of three people or things
People refer to: trinity, triune, etc.
There are (3) entities in heaven, God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Amen
SolaScrip,
True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament."
Well, God's 10 Commandments are identical to Christ's Commandments. Christ didn't change, minimize or abbreviate them in any way. Christ is the Creator of all things and He created the Commandments - there would be no reason for Him to change or rescind any of them.
Christ speaks of obeying the Law, the 10 Commandments, just as they are taught by the scribes and Pharisees in Matt. 23:1-3. He says to "do as they say, but not as they do" because the teachers of the Law at that time were all hypocrites. They taught the 10 Commandments, but kept none of them. That passage proves that Jesus taught the literal keeping of the 10 Commandments, not just the essence, or spirit, of them in our hearts, etc.
Jesus stated, as you pointed out, that He kept all of the Father's 10 Commandments physically when He declared it in John 15:10.
We see that 1 John makes clear that we are to live as Jesus lived, obeying what He obeyed, in 1 John 2:6. That does not support the modern popular teaching that we are only to obey them in spirit. And if Jesus had any intention of teaching that Christians did not need to keep them literally, we would not have the record of the disciples keeping the Saturday Sabbath immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56. We also would not see Paul being labeled by the elders as a "Keeper of the Law" in Acts 21:24.
"IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments."
I would agree with this, but that just means that the vast majority of professed Christians today are not filled with the Holy Spirit because most Christians do not obey the 10 Commandments.
Jesus says that it is the keeping of the 10 Commandments that is pre-requisite for receiving 'HIM' as the Holy Spirit in John 14:21.
SolaScrip,
True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament."
Well, God's 10 Commandments are identical to Christ's Commandments. Christ didn't change, minimize or abbreviate them in any way. Christ speaks of obeying the Law, the 10 Commandments, just as they are taught by the scribes and Pharisees in Matt. 23:1-3. He says to "do as they say, but not as they do" because the teachers of the Law at that time were all hypocrites. They taught the 10 Commandments, but kept none of them. That passage proves that Jesus taught the physical keeping of the 10 Commandments, not just the essence, or spirit, of them in our hearts, etc.
Jesus stated, as you pointed out, that He kept all of the Father's 10 Commandments physically when He declared it in John 15:10.
We see that 1 John makes clear that we are to live as Jesus lived, obeying what He obeyed, in 1 John 2:6. That does not support the modern popular teaching that we are only to obey them in spirit. And if Jesus had any intention of teaching that Christians did not need to keep them literally, we would not have the record of the disciples keeping the Saturday Sabbath immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56. We also would not see Paul being labeled by the elders as a "Keeper of the Law" in Acts 21:24.
"IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments."
I would agree with this, but that just means that the vast majority of professed Christians today are not filled with the Holy Spirit because most Christians do not obey the 10 Commandments.
Jesus says that it is the keeping of the 10 Commandments that is pre-requisite for receiving 'HIM' as the Holy Spirit in John 14:21.
Very few preach and teach the GOOD NEWS of the gospel of the Kingdom of God.
WE were RESURRECTED as joint heirs of Christ.
Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery .... CHRIST IN YOU .... the glory of God .....
God BLESS YOU!
True Christ Followers will be obedient to all of God's 10 Commandments as taught by Jesus in the New Testament.
Luke 9:23"And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."
John 14:15"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Keeping God's 10 Commandments - plus the additional commandment that Jesus emphasized - to Love each other.
John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."
Jesus warns all of us that we will not enter into Salvation without keeping God's Commandments.
Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
IF a Christian is filled with God's Holy Spirit they will naturally be following all of God's/Jesus Commandments.
It's IMPOSSIBLE to live a worldly life and be a Christ follower.
Happy Sabbath Day!
2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"
- Strive to keep worldly thoughts out of our mind.
- Nothing in this world can compare to God's creations, and what he has promised us if we follow Christ.
- Concentrate on being obedient to Jesus/God's words by turning from fleshy desires and replacing with prayer.
- Pray for the ability to really love everyone as Jesus tells us to do.
Feel free to share your thoughts on obedience to God.
Happy Sabbath Day!
INVISIBLE; NO IMAGE; NO IMAGINATION OF MAN
Acts 17:29
states:
Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man.
God has many warnings in scripture regarding not making idols of created beings or heavenly objects such as the moon and stars. This verse shows how God cannot be reduced to a man made concept or picture."
Would you not then agree that the concept of the trinity falls under such category as an "IMAGE and IMAGINATION OF MAN"?
If the concept is not taught anywhere in the Bible, that succinctly defines it as a creation/imagination of man.
The concept of God being three persons is an IDOL, it is an IMAGE created by the IMAGINATION OF MAN.
This IDOL has been sold to the masses, it has been delivered to hundreds of millions, if not billions, who accept and embrace it without question or personal investigation into its Scriptural authenticity.
It is a lie of man.
That also posts here.
Speaking in tounges is not a (must) to always be interpreted .
Let us look to scriptures to seek the truth and not take verses out of context.
Speaking in tounges is a spiritual gift given from god.
It is not always a known language, like in acts on the day of pentecost.
We can find the answer in Corinthians 1 ch 14. If we read the whole chapter we find the whole truth and wont cherry pick it.
Corinthians 1 ch 14 vs2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
This tells us it is an unknown language, a Holy language .That NO man understands. Including himself. It is the spirit in him that is speaking with God.
The Holyghost in the person speaks in a Holy language speaking directly to God. For edification of himself.
If God sees fit that speaking in tounges is for the church there will be an interpretation.
Now Speaking in tounges with no interpretation is very biblically sound as well .
We find this in the same chapter. 1 Corinthians ch14 vs 4
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Yes by all means pray for the gift of prophecy along with all other gifts of the spirit, that God sees fit for our life and our purpose in him.That we may be obedient to Gods will .
I pray God will Bless you without measure, overflowing. With all the gifts of the spirit according to His will for your life.
GB I love you all.
The words of the LORD are pure words. ( Ps 12:6-7) (pure) is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every.
For the word of God is (quick) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword ( Hebrews 4:12) (quick) #2198 it means to live, alive. The word of God is Alive, the word of God is not confusion!
God is not the author of confusion ( 1 Cor 14:33) (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant, unstable.
All these different modern version bibles that change words and completely leave out whole verses are instability, disorder, they are inconstant, they are unstable! Many have changed their own words several different times! ( 1 Cor 1:10) Telle us "that we all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among us, but that we be perfectly joined together in the same mind"..
( Jer 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
The words of the LORD are pure words, (pure) #2889; sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Mt 4:4)
EVERY WORD!
"For we are not as many, which (corrupt) the word of God".. ( 2 Cor 2:17) (corrupt) is #2585; it means to retail, (to adulterate).
This is doctrine that's not sound doctrine, but it is instability, inconstant, and unstable! ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) IT IS CORRUPT!
Remember the words of the LORD are pure words, they are sound, (unadulterated), uncontaminated.
One eighty look up ( Ps 12:7) in your Niv bible and compare it with the KJB.
Also compare ( Mark 11:26) and ( Eph 3:9) in your Niv with the KJB.
And here's a really big one to compare ( Col 1:14)
This is the definition of (perverted), #2015 it means to change.
God Bless you, and all who seek His Truth.
Those who follow the ways of Christ. ( 1 Jn. 2:6)
The followers of Christ who obeyed the 10 Commandments immediately after Christ's death on the Cross in Luke 23:54-56 were True Christians even if the term wasn't recorded yet. Those who walked along side Christ were Christians while Christ was still alive physically upon the earth.
Yes, many profess to be, and call themselves, Christians today.
Yet True Christians obey the 10 Commandments as Christ obeyed and taught them. ( Jn. 15:10)( Matt. 23:1-3)
Thought for Today - October 7, 2023
The Prayer of an Aged Man
By: Robert A. Searles
"In thee,O Lord do I put my trust: Let me never be put to confusion.
Deliver me in thy righteousness, and cause me to escape; incline thine ear unto me, and save me
Be thou my strong habitation; where unto I may continually resort:
thou hast given commandment to save me: for thou art my rock and my fortress.
Deliver me, O my God, out of the hand of the wicked, out of the hand of the unrighteous and cruel man . For thou art my hope, O Lord God: thou art my trust from my youth
By thee have I been holden up from the womb; thou art he that took me out of my mother's bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.
I am as a wonder unto many; but thou art my strong refuge
Let my mouth be filled with thy praise and with thy honor all the day.Cast me not off in the time of old age; forsake me not when my strength faileth. For mine enemies speak against me; and they that lay wait for my soul take counsel together.
O God, be not far from me; O my God, make haste for my help. My mouth shall show forth thy righteousness and thy salvation all the day, for I know not the number thereof.
I will go in the strength of the Lord God: I will make mention of thy righteousness even of thine only. Now also when I am old and gray headed, O God forsake me not until I have shewed thy strength unto this generation; and thy power to every one that is to come.
Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee! Thou which hast shewed me great and sore troubles, shalt quicken me again, and shalt bring me up again from the depths of the
earth." Psalm 71
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Psalm 26: 7
If my memory serve me correctly, you're a former professional educator,,,,,,,, you do not perceive what has been plainly stated?
Gigi,,,,,,,,let us all join together in the love & fear of God, in His love one for another
& allow Him free reign in our hearts, to the perfecting of our faith that He may cleanse us with the washing of the water of His words
2Cor 7:1 the breath of God uses the words, "dearly beloved"
Titus 2:14 who gave Himself freely, then & now
All power in heaven & in earth has been given unto Him,
knowing all thoughts & intents of the heart, He patiently awaits our response
Please come,,,, whosoever will come..........
your friend in Christ
Grace & Peace be to you & to all & especially to all who love His appearance
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
Lots of people, church goers, different denominations. All saying they're are Christians, when there is only One Christ.
Glory to God on earth as it is in Heaven. God Bless and keep striving.
Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
( Ps 12:6) The (words) of the LORD are pure (words)..
(words) is #565; it means commandment, something said.
( Proverbs 30:6) Add thou not unto his (words) lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(words) in this verse is #1697; it means a book, chronicles, commandment, commune (-cation) promise, saying, sentence, (concerning) thought. (The words we are told not to add unto are in (a book)
( Isa 34:16) Seek ye out of the (book) of the LORD, and read,..
(book) is #5612; it means writing (the art or a document) by implying a book, evidence, learn (-ed) (-ing) letter.
( 2 Tim 3:16) All (scripture) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
(scripture) is #1124; it means a document, i.e. holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it) to grave. to write, to describe.
( 2 Pet 1:20-21) The word (scripture) has the same meaning as above #1124, a document, holy Writ.
(prophecy) is #4394; it means prediction (scriptural or other) a foreteller, an inspired speaker.
( Rev 1:2-3) v2 Who bare record of the (word of God) and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. v3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear (the words) (of this prophecy) and keep those things (which are written) therein: for the time is at hand.
( Rev 22:18-19) v18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the ((words of the prophecy of this book)), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. v19 And if any man shall take away from the ((words of the book of this prophecy)), God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
( Ps 12:6-7) v7 Thou shalt keep them O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
(preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, to protect, maintain, obey.