Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 108

  • Giannis - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Hello GiGi, 1/2

    Some comments about God. I will repeat some of your comments and add some more, what I understand of Him.

    God is invisible. No man has ever seen God, nor he can because they will die.

    So do we know anything about God or not, or do we know God or not? Has anybody gone up there and saw Him, and His surroundings, has anybody talked to Him face to face to tell us something about Him? How does He really look like? How is His character? What is He like really?

    Although God has revealed to people in the OT many things about Himself, it seems those were not enough for us to have a relatively good knowledge of Him. Only some general things about Him.

    In John 1:18 Jesus says,, "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him"

    So it was Jesus who told us everything about God. Actually everybody who gets to know Jesus, he actually gets to know Father as well, since they are completely indentical, in character, power, nature ..., everything. Like Jesus said to Phillip the one who sees Jesus has seen God the Father Himself. Of course Jesus doesn't mean here the external appearance of God.

    There is a very nice verse in Hebrews 1:2-3

    "2. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

    3. Who (Jesus) being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

    Jesus is the visible brightness of the invisible glory of God, He is the express image of the invible image of God. After all that how can one claim that Jesus is not God?

    But how is God's external appearance. The truth is that we don't know. Some say His is like a man, taking into account some descriptions in the Bible. Others say that He only uses such expressions for Himself to make us feel comfortable with Him.
  • Jimbob - In Reply - 6 months ago
    One eighty

    I do thank you for your comments. I didn't mean to offend you with that question but to me its really that simple.

    If we don't believe that God preserved His Word for ever like He promised us in His Word, then what is our final authority?

    The Word of God has to be our final authority, but if its modern version bibles then which one would that be? They are all different. And how can we trust a bible that calls Jesus Christ a liar?

    The Truth does matter One eighty, I have shown many posts that has nothing to do with my thought system, and surely not my opinion but has shown modern version bibles to be doctrine that is not sound doctrine, but corrupt doctrine.

    You said "Of course truth matters; I don't think anyone would be on this site if it didn't". There is much deception in this world today, ( Mt 7:15) "false prophets which come to you in sheep's clothing". ( Mt 24:11) "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many". And in ( 2 Cor 11:13-15) The word (ministers) speaking of Satan's minsters in v15 are disguised as Christian teachers and pastors. The word (transformed) is #3345; it means to transfigure or disguise.

    You have a desire to teach peace, that's a great thing for one to teach in this time period we live in today, that will help many.

    I have a desire to show the Truth One eighty, and there are a few subjects that are very important to show the Truth in the Word of God by using Scripture. The inspired preserved Word of God is one of those subjects, And as I'm sure you can see there is deception in almost everything today.

    The reason I say "God Bless all who seek His Truth" is that it truly seems today that many people ignore, or just push aside the Truth like it has no meaning when it is presented straight from the Word of God. Some of that on this subject would be caused by a belief and trust in modern version bibles.

    Again I did not mean to offend you.

    God Bless you and all who seek His Truth, (and everybody else) for One eighty.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 6 months ago
    SolaScrip:

    God's commandments are EVERY WORD that proceeds out of his mouth,not just TEN written in stone.

    1 Timothy 4:10 ....... who is the SAVIOUR of ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE......

    1 Timothy 4:11 These things COMMAND and TEACH.

    How many BELIEVE these WORDS of Christ and FOLLOW those words.

    The word of God contains about 750,000 words, they all APPLY as a commandment.

    God BlessYOU!
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Adam, hey.. one thing to keep in mind concerning the pharisee view of the sabbath. Jesus didn't "violate" the sabbath, he did however, violate their man made restrictions added on to the commandment. He intentionally walked through the discouraging "traditions" that they were requiring people to obey, causing it to be a burden rather than the blessing it was intended to be.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 6 months ago
    PS: I forgot to tell you that I do use Bible Hub, in fact, I used it when I did my comparison studies. When the commentator, for example, compared a verse in the KJB and the NIV I would go to Bible Hub to be sure it actually said what the commentator said. They were right 95% of the time but there were a few times that they were incorrect. Bye again Ann
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 6 months ago
    As usual better insight than I have given. Probably better for you to continue this more than me.

    I thought about you; actually talking to an old lady in my church who apparently was told from a very young age that she was gifted in teaching. She went on to have many adopted kids and apparently teach some Sunday school stuff like you did.

    Hope your relative is doing better than last week (Vivian I think her name was).
  • Momsage - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Thank you so much for your warm welcome. I will reply soon with my studies. The verses you listed do tell the prophecy of this happening and I have a thought of why the world is so taken with these new versions. It isn't so much they can't understand the KJB, as they are to lazy to study for themselves, as God admonishes us to do. They would rather make excuses and let man do it for them. It's silly, also, since the KJB was written on an 8th or 9th grade level, that they "can't read it or understand it." I believe since the devil couldn't tempt most Christians to not read their bible he introduced these modern versions to do it this way and it is very successful. Also, people on YouTube are asking the YouTuber what version they should use, some even saying all the different versions are confusing to them and making it hard for them to choose, so they go to man, to help them deside instead of asking God.

    Would you mind telling me your testimony in becoming a Christian? I am very interested.

    Now on to study. I'll talk to you later. Have a blessed day. Ann
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Alex Palace:

    Yes, Christ is the arch angel. Christ is the angel of the Lord, of the Old Testament, Christ is the fire that appeared in the burning bush, Christ is the rock in the wilderness that provided water for his children, Christ is the word that that brings TRUTH and LIFE to his children.

    Christ is the great I AM.

    God BLESS YOY!
  • Adam - In Reply - 6 months ago
    If Jesus returned to earth today and did healings and works on the Sabbath, would we accuse Him of violating this commandment?

    Because that's what Pharisees did in Jesus's time, and Jesus had a response to that which was interesting. Did Jesus actually violate that commandment? No, and He explained why, including Mark 2:27. He said he didn't come to abolish the law but fulfill it. Notice it wasn't other commandments He was accused of breaking, just that one. It should be no surprise that Christians have different takes on this and it doesn't automatically mean each has impure motives. Picking grain or helping an elderly person on Saturday seems very different in severity than committing adultery. So, I think well meaning Christians who only follow 9 of the 10 commandments will be judged fairly, and I think Christians who follow 10 of 10 commandments will be judged fairly. God knows our heart.

    The sabbath commandment is a little bit in question based on what Jesus said and did during that time. Had this not been included in the Bible, I think 10 of 10 commandments would be seen as equal. I personally try to honor the sabbath, but am not 100% clear on what 'work' is sometimes. For example some may view typing a comment as a 'work' and some may not. I also think that being too consumed with analyzing this if it results in losing focus on following Jesus would defeat the purpose. We are to obey Jesus, but not like pharisees. That is my opinion. God bless.
  • One eighty - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Jimbob,

    Pg 2: since the page I was just writing was submitted without any intention of submitting at that time.

    To continue: Of course truth matters; I don't think anyone would be on this site if it didn't.

    God bless you, all who seek His Truth; AND all who don't, for THEY need His blessings in the same manner. Let us continue to pray for our perceived enemies whom we perceive as going against the Word of God. Let us do so, so that they can become our friends.

    Peace
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Yes and don't forget Matt. 5:19-20 which not only states that those who obey and teach the 10 Commandments will be considered greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven, but also states that our righteousness must 'exceed' that of the scribes and Pharisees of that day. Sadly, today's modern pastors and preachers don't even come close.

    The teachers of the Law in Jesus' day taught the 10 Commandments but didn't follow any of them ( Matt. 23:1-3), but our woeful excuse for teachers today teach that we should NOT keep God's Law - that it is some form of sin to do so.

    What a shame. They shall in 'no way' enter into the Kingdom of Heaven as they teach that those who obey will be, heaven forbid, sent to hell by God ... 'for obeying Him.'

    They are given a massive stage and a forum to reach many, many people and do they feed them? No, they do not. They poison them with lies of the devil and lead hundreds of millions, if not billions, to their destruction.
  • Alex Palace - 6 months ago
    Is God, Jehovah?
  • SolaScrip - In Reply - 6 months ago
    "Momsage - in Reply

    May I ask, do you set aside Saturday as the sabbath as the 4th commandment says? I am not part of an denomination that worships on Saturday."

    Yes, I set aside Saturday as the Biblical Sabbath and treat it much differently than any other day that I worship according to Gen. 2:2-3 and many other passages in Scripture, including Jesus' definitive teachings of the 10 Commandments and His keeping of them in alignment with 1 Jn. 2:6.

    I'm not part of any organized denomination as I have found that very few, if any, align their doctrines accurately with the Bible. I believe the ONLY way to find Truth in Scripture is to study it diligently on our own and pray for guidance via the Holy Spirit.

    Regardless of what anyone believes, when one does that, they come to very different conclusions about what the Bible teaches concerning most of the main doctrines of modern mainstream churches today. That alone should lead most to want to find out for themselves what God actually teaches in His Word.

    "I honestly believe that in the end times God's true believers will use the KJV and worship, maybe even in secret, on Saturday. (not prophesying, just wondering :))"

    I believe we are living in that time now. It is difficult to live by the 10 Commandments in this day and age, but it is not impossible as nothing is impossible with God and with strong faith and conviction. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that True Christians will have it easy, at any point in history.
  • Alex Palace - 6 months ago
    Is Jesus the Arch angel Michael?
  • One eighty - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Blessings Jimbob,

    I'm going to refrain from answering your question on whether I believe the Word of God. But I will say that I don't believe anything the ego speaks.

    Please understand that I feel no need to defend modern bible versions, nor the KJV for that matter. If one or the other is true, it needs not my defense, for the Spirit is Truth and He needs NO defense. Truth Is.

    Nor do I want to fall into the egocentric trap of attacking your thought system, as it would be a show of disrespect to a brother whom I desire to love with the Love of God; for there is no other Love.

    My desire is to teach peace. To have peace, one must teach peace to learn peace; there is no other way. I'm slowly learning that attacking another's system of thought does not bring peace to my mind. My sole desire is for healing: not to approach others with the mindset of having to prove something
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Jordyn,

    I'm not sure why you are so confused regarding 1 John 5:7.

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    The verse states (3) three bear record in heaven. Not 2, and Not 4.. but 3. Easy to understand.

    God loves the meek, the humble, the poor and the trodden down. He wants these simple people to read and understand His message because they will inherent the Kingdom.

    I will leave you with this verse my friend. Titus 1:15 "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled."
  • One eighty - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Blessings,

    Before we continue, I'm hoping you will clarify some things:

    First, I'm a bit confused whether to address you as Mewol or Merete.

    Second, I don't wish to deceive you or anyone that I teach anything on youtube. I think maybe I've heard the term "Sasha Stones", but I have no awareness of what it is.

    Third, it will be helpful to everyone on this site, including you, if you, at the beginning of any comments, address the specific entity you are communicating with; unless of course, you are addressing your comments to everyone in general who visit here.

    Please excuse me if I've misrepresented myself in any way, as it was unintentional.

    With this being said, while I believe the Holy Spirit speaks through God's Creation as HE sees fit, He is ultimately the ONLY Therapist. Being the Mind of God, Who is Perfect Love, He is the Answer.

    In addition to this; please consider that the only way we will obtain the peace of God that passes understanding, is through complete forgiveness; not as the world sees forgiveness, but that of Christ. Yet do not be deceived, given the the condition of our state of mind, this will appear to be a long and trying journey. There are rewards though, traveling along this road, and unspeakable ones when we awaken to the perfect Love of God, finding the reality of our Self, in His Kingdom.

    If you are inspired to have a dialogue with me or others on this site, please do so. I'm confident they will speak lovingly and respectfully, while not sacrificing their thought system in any way, unless of course one freely chooses to do so.

    Peace be with you my perfect equal!
  • Mewol - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Thank you for your reply, I am so grateful for your answer. I agree with what you say about the mind. I am now listening to your first and second masterclass on youtube and I find this knowlwdge very powerful indeed. This teaching is totally new to my ears and I consider myself a truth seeker. I work in the spa and wellness industry and meet people 1:1. Any suggestion to how I can be of service to them and contribute to wake up to the truth? Almost everybody wants to be fixed by a therapist and forget the why they are off pist. How to help them to help themselves, that goes for me too.

    Kind regards

    Merete
  • GiGi - In Reply - 6 months ago
    On the mount of transfiguration He gave a few of His disciples a peek at His glory and they were astonished, drew back, and fell down to the ground. Just that peek stayed with these apostles for the rest of their lives, as did Paul's encounter with the Resurrected and glorified Christ.

    No one can see God and live, the Word says. But we will behold God with our eyes in the face of Christ forever in the life to come. And that will be completely satisfying for us. Seeing Jesus is seeing God and also seeing that He became man for our salvation. God and Man in one Person forever. Hebrews tells us to fix our eyes upon Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith. We keep our eyes on Jesus by knowing Him through the intake of His Words in Scripture.

    Richard, thank you for participating with me on this topic of our Great God. He is so worth studying and knowing more deeply. Let us press on to know Him more and more.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Richard, to continue. Jn 1:18 says that we have seen God's glory in Christ, but in verse 18 says no one has seen God at any time, save the Son. Same for 1Jn. 4:12, no man has ever seen God. (also Jn. 6:46).

    God's Spirit lives in us, but is invisible and does not take up any physical space within us. This is true of the Father and Jesus, who also abide in believers.

    So, how do we conceive of an invisible God? First of all, we believe that He is (He. 11:6) and we must obey His command to not attempt to make any image of Him in our minds or in a physical object. He determined that it is best for us to not know what He looks like in His essence, lest we make an idol of the image we see. We are to come to Him through the eyes of faith, but not through seeing Him with our physical eyes. Jesus told Thomas after Thomas touched and viewed His wounds, blessed are those who believe who have not seen.

    I also think that God determined that we cannot view Him in His Divine Essence because if we did, we would be destroyed by His holiness, majesty, and greatness. Note the responses of Isaiah, Ezekiel, John when they had a vision of the Lord on the throne and in Revelation 1 (John). They came unglued and fell down as if dead. And this was with a manifestation. God hides even in these manifestations. God's dealings with mankind in Biblical times was long before the present times where we have cameras and ability to video. God doesn't want to give us an image to worship. We are to worship Him in truth through the Spirit, not in a carnal or sensual way (as to using our senses). yet we can worship with words, preaching, singing, shouting, and with our bodies, clapping, raising hands, and dancing like David. But God wants us to do so reverently, not imitating the world and pagans. God's invisibility protects us from that type of idolatry.

    Jesus is the ultimate revelation of God in a human body. He did not show God in His Divine Essence. His Divinity was cloaked by His humanity.
  • GiGi - 6 months ago
    Hi Richard,

    I was thinking of posting about God being invisible. I am glad you did. The Scriptures clearly teach that God in His essence is invisible. At times He appears in theophanies where He is seen in a form, but this is a manifestation of Him (flame and voice in burning bush, materialized angel along with two angels visiting Abraham, pillar of cloud/fire, shekinah glory in the tabernacle), not seeing Him in His true essence. He dwells in unapproachable light ( 1 Ti. 6:16), a God who hides, (Is. 45:15).

    John says that God is Spirit ( Jn. 4:24), not 'a' spirit, but pure spirit only, not having a physical form (Dt.4:12) Because of His infinity, He is not bound by a body made of matter taking up a specific amount of space and subject to time. , His Being does not take up portion of space, rather His Being is all encompassing of all that there is, everywhere present, filling heaven, earth and eternity. Before creation there was no space, only God's being. He has no wight, no mass, no form, no taste, no smell, nothing tangible that can be sensed by physical human senses, so He is imperceptible by physical means.

    If He did not reveal Himself to humanity leaving evidence of His power and majesty in creation, in His visitations to godly men, and in what He spoke to the patriarchs, prophets, and apostles to record in Scripture, humanity would not know of His existence or know Who He is or What He is like. He is transcendent, completely separate and unlike anything He created. Mankind is made in His image in some ways, but He is so much more, higher, and other than the image of God created in humans. His existence is inferred because of the effects of His actions. Otherwise, He would be completely unknowable to us. He put limits on us as to His visibility. He is real a real Being, with mind, consciousness, will, and all the attributes we speak of here. But He determined that we cannot and will not be able to see Him in His essential nature. We will see Him in Christ.
  • Jimbob - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Momsage thank you for your kind words and for your comment. Its good to have another KJB believer on this site, you are very much welcomed here. It is really sad that so many people including pastors are using modern version bibles today, that is a prophecy being fulfilled ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) v3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;"

    v4 says "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables". They turn from the truth?

    ( John 17:17) "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth". They turn from the True Word of God, the KJB!

    ( Ps 119:89) "For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven".

    That means the Word of God will never change! Yet every modern version bible does (change) the words.

    There's a site that you might really like, it shows patterns that only God could have been in control of in translating the KJB, and the KJB ONLY.

    Search (Truth is Christ) on youtube and watch some of the videos, it proves the KJB is the True Inspired Word of God.

    This will be a really good tool for you to use in Bible study if you want to compare Bibles, it called (Bible Hub).

    I do look forward to seeing you post some of your future Bible studies on the KJB.

    God Bless You and all who seek His Truth.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 6 months ago
    You didn't answer my question, Frankie, but again, just spoke pejoratively about me. I do want to know what I posted that is unscriptural in your judgment. No need to judge me as a person, just speak to what I have posted. If you will not answer my question only, then I will exit this conversation with you.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Yes they do. Thank you.
  • Jema - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Amen to you .
  • Jema - In Reply - 6 months ago
    I believe that the Seventh Day Adventists have their services on a Saturday .
  • Momsage - In Reply - 6 months ago
    May I ask, do you set aside Saturday as the sabbath as the 4th commandment says? I am not part of an denomination that worships on Saturday. I actually can't go to church because of my disabilities but, even if I could, I don't know of any church that has services on Saturday and that teaches ,what I believe, is true doctrine. I certainly wouldn't condemn any one who worships on

    Sunday, that wouldn't be Christ like, but I honestly believe that in the end times God's true believers will use the KJV and worship, maybe even in secret, on Saturday. (not prophesying, just wondering :))
  • Momsage - In Reply - 6 months ago
    What an amazing study and I'm going to follow your example and do a study of the KJV bible this way. I do love the KJV, it is the only version I have ever used because when I gave my heart to the Lord in 1971 it was the only one in the churches. So when the KJV started to be replaced by "modern" versions I was truly sadden as other versions started taking it's place and now it is hard to find one anywhere in churches among the congregations and the pastors. I have done a comparison of some of the other versions and when I used information from videos of comparisons being done, I always verified what they were saying by going to the other version to be sure it really said what they claimed. Sometimes they were actually wrong, but most of the time they were right that the other version's translation DOES change doctrine, etc. God Bless You
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 6 months ago
    SoloScrip,

    Yes, I agree, we are on the same page here. Jesus taught the same 10 Commandments. Jesus came not to take away the law but to fullfil and he even emphasized the law (10 Commandments) to an even higher level here: Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Very strong verse emphasizing that Jesus expects us (Christians) to follow these commandments.

    When Jesus was asked which commandment is the most important He responded: Matthew 22:37-40 This confirms the importance for us to follow God's Commandments and Jesus includes another: that we should love our nieghbor as ourself.

    I also agree, that Jesus and his apostles, including Paul followed God's 10 Commandments and taught the early church body to follow them. True Christ followers will adhere to these teachings as they will be encouraged by God's Holy Spirit to live in the light and serve Him in Spirit!

    GBU
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Brother Dan:

    The us is the FATHER and his SON, two not three.

    The Father does ALL THINGS through the SON, Christ Jesus.

    The son has a GOD (Spirit) and a FATHER (spirit of truth and LIFE), there are TWO not THREE. Christ is the BODY of his GOD, as we are the BODY of his SON, Christ. Christ ONLY speaks and does as his Father CAUSES him TO WILL and TO DO; as we ONLY WILL and DO as Christ CAUSES us to will and to do.

    1 John 2:22 .... he is anti-christ (anti-truth) that denieth the Father and SON ..... TWO not THREE.

    God Bless YOU!

    God BLESS YOU!


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