James, I pray that God will heal your family . God knows what pain and suffering we are going through. Keep reading Romans through Philemon and pray to God for all of this to come to pass and one day you will see it , it will come to pass . God's will is in all of us.
Here's a verse that will help you get pass all . Psalm 37:5
Commit thy way unto theLord; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
I truly believe that UFO are Satan and his fallen angels. Apostle Paul warns us about Satan's devices and he can transform himself into a angel of light.
I would recommend to stay away from this research, because it will invite demon's and devils.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
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1 Peter 4:10 KJV
My Interpetation: REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" To have life in Jesus Christ. A mouth to speak to become like God. I have used these methods reading holy bible, praying, writing, ministering- 1 Peter 4:8 KJV. A guaranteed result is report of praise.A language that we can understand. To be holy-set apart of God. Faith, repentance, hope, love.
Me being a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles CA
John 13:34 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
"A language you can understand.How to love God. Loving God. Adorned-Example Reverence Scripture-Revelations 21:2 KJV. Not to default and defraud. Identified Christian to be in Love of God with another.
Ways you can be in the Love of God are listen to his voice and word to obey, follow and do it. Quoted scripture for Christians Romans 12:2 KJV
Examples of God's love ,loving God,Love of God is Galatians 5:22 KJV, 1 Corinthians 13 to have faith and holiness.
John 13:Verse 35
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Disciple-Showing the holy bible (Jesus Christ) is life. To see Jesus Christ commandments as the truth and believe (passed from death to life) John 3:16 KJV-Allowing the grace of God work upon your hearts.
So sorry for this sad time. I will be praying or your mom and for you and your dad. I am glad you shared this with us. We love you and know that these past few years have been difficult for you and your parents. Stay focused on how great God is. I do think that the Holy Spirit does still work in the hearts of those who are dying even when unconscious. I believe that He continues to make His appeal to the spirit of the one dying until the end. So, even when we cannot communicate and share with the one we love, the Holy Spirit works far better than we can, bringing gospel truth to their spirit until the last. You have shared the gospel hope with your mom again and again. The Holy Spirit uses what you sowed. We will not know the outcome this side of heaven, but we can be confident that God gives her many chances to receive Him. She is truly in God's hands, as all of us ultimately always are since He is sovereign over all. Be comforted tonight and tomorrow. You have been a good and loving son to her and have tried to obey God for her sake. May you be blessed richly in this time of sorrow.
2 Corinthians 10:4 - (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, and that's the word fleshy, natural inclination. And he's presenting the character of these weapons. It isn't human!
But he says, in contrast, they are mighty through God. The phrase "through God" is what is called an Instrumental Dative in the Greek. Instrument in God's hands. It's very mighty. It's very powerful, to the pulling down of strong holds;
The word strong hold means fortress or castle. And pulling down, that would be what you and I would imagine about a building being destroyed and pulled down to make room for a new one. Paul sees that Satan has a fortress and he likes to hold people captive. And Paul says our weapons are spiritual. They're not human. And they are for pulling down strong holds.
2 Corinthians 10:5 - Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
Imaginations means opinions and philosophies. It's the word reasoning in Greek. Casting down opinions and philosophies, and every high thing, the word for elevation. It's a metaphorical term for attitudes. It's an attitude. Every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God.
2 Corinthians 10:8 - For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:
The Lord has given us authority for edification which means to build up, to develop. It's the traditional Christian word for growth. Notice he says the Lord has given us this authority. He's always emphasizing that. It's not through people. It's through the Lord. The Lord has given us this authority for edification, and not for your destruction. God never gave us power to destroy people, but to build them up.
2 Corinthians 10:1 - Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:
He says, Now I Paul myself, emphasizing his individuality. I Paul myself, beseech you. This word beseech means to appeal to someone. And he says by the meekness and gentleness of Christ. His appeal is based on the meekness and gentleness of Christ. In Matthew 11:29-30, Jesus presented Himself as meek and lowly. And so, Paul is saying that this is not something that he is presenting out of his own effort, but this is actually the meekness and gentleness of Christ.
The word meekness means to be open or to be receptive. And the gentleness of Christ means to have a soft response to an attack. Paul is saying that I as an individual, I'm appealing to you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ. So, he's presenting himself as being under the influence of God's Spirit, to approach them from a conciliatory standpoint, rather than anger.
2 Corinthians 10:2 - But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.
But I beseech you, and this word beseech is different than in Verse 1. This word is the word beg. So first we have an appeal, and then he says I beg you.
2 Corinthians 9:6 - But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
But this I say, He which sows sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which sows bountifully, and that's the word blessing. He who sows a blessing shall also reap a blessing.
2 Corinthians 9:7 - Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
Every man according as he purposes in his own heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, (that's the word grief), or of necessity: and that's the word pressure, for God loves a cheerful giver. The term "cheerful giver" in the Greek is the word that means hilarious. God loves a hilarious giver. And no, I've never seen one!
2 Corinthians 9:10 - Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
Now he that ministers seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and these are all Optative Moods in the Greek text. These are wishes, may he! May he minister bread for your food, may he multiply your seed sown, and may he increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
Do you see the emphasis? The God who provides the seed, may He increase your food, may He increase the seeds that you plant, in the sowing and the scattering of the seed, and may He increase your fruits in righteousness.
2 Corinthians 7:10 - For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
For godly sorrow works repentance to salvation not to be repented of: That is not to be regretted. But the sorrow of the world works death.
Again, this is the word METANOEO which is associated with salvation. We use it incorrectly by saying that Christians need to repent. If you're a Christian, you've already repented. There is a confession. There is a forsaking. But repentance is associated with salvation. When you make the decision to change the direction of your life, and surrender your life to Christ, that's repentance. Repentance, METANOEO, always leads to salvation.
2 Corinthians 8:2 - How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.
Again, the word affliction is THLIPSIS for stress. This is city wide. This is things that they faced in receiving Christ.
2 Corinthians 8:4 - Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
The word "gift" in the verse is the word grace.
2 Corinthians 8:16 - But thanks be to God, which put the same earnest care into the heart of Titus for you.
It is interesting that the word "thanks" in this verse is the word grace (CHARIS).
2 Corinthians 9:5 - Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before, that the same might be ready, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness.
The word "bounty" is the word EULOGIA which means blessing. Do it now under grace as a blessing. Don't wait until the last minute and find people that say I said I would give but I don't have it now, because you're going to desire to go out and get from other people, and he says it shouldn't be that way.
2 Corinthians 7:8 - For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent: for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry, though it were but for a season.
The word sorry is the word grieve. For though I grieved you with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent:
There are two words in the New Testament for the word repentance. One of them, and it's the word that is used here, except for at the end of the verse. This word is METAMELOMAI. It's the word used in Matthew 27:3 for Judas Iscariot. After he had betrayed Jesus, it said that he repented, which means to regret what he did. He regretted what he did, and he went out and hung himself. The other word for repentance is METANOEO and that is true repentance and surrender to Christ.
2 Corinthians 7:9 - Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
He says, Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, or you were grieved, but that your grief led you to repentance:
That's the word for true repentance, METANOEO. It's not the word for regret, METAMELOMAI, but METANOEO, make a decision for change. Your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made to grieve after a godly manner. The term godly manner is literally according to God. God made you grieve, that you might receive damage by us in nothing.
So, you won't experience loss. Paul was concerned that his words and his attitude might in a human sense grieve them in a bad way. But he says no, you were made to grieve according to God. Godly sorrow leads people to repentance. That's what he says in Verse 10.
There is so many good theologians that debate this study from different viewpoints.
I certainly like this study because it is so much to learn from it.
It brings us right up to the way God chose and who he chose to be the heirs of his promises to Abraham and these promises and covenants is essential to the Christian faith.
I to have a busy week and will be in and out as time permits
Here I will attempt to parallel the context of the passages previously mentioned in Romans 9 the references in the passages in the OT and these passages in Galatians.
Galatians 4:22-31
For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman
But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
A closer look at Romans 9:1-12 with old testament references.
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Romans 9:7-11 "Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
I've seen some
Replacement theologist use these verses to assign those of the flesh to Israel and they assign "Children" of the promise to the Church.
This follows after they mis interpret Romans 9:6.
However it's clear that the passages in " Romans 9:1-12 " is making a distinction between the children of promise and the children of the flesh. "BOTH BIOLOGICAL DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM.
Here's the old testament passages of scripture these verses in Romans 9 is referring to.
Romans 9:9) For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
OT reference.
Genesis 17:16-21.
Genesis 18:10-14.
Here we see the promise of Issac taking place and the child of the flesh that also Metaphorically represents the works of the flesh refused. Why? It's not according to God's purpose!
Note;
Abraham had 6 other sons by Keturah, "his concubine" Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah:
These are also children of the flesh.
Romans 9::10-11
And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
OT reference. Genesis 25:21-23
Isaac blesses Jacob and Esau.
Genesis 27:29
Genesis 27:37.
This has nothing to do with Salvation in regards of Limited Atonement, The Church or Replacement theology.
I will take your input as a help to me. We can continue to speak on these matters. I just do not want to go into days and weeks of back and forth on one or two aspects of what is being discussed because that tends to take us far away from the overall content of what is being presented. I want to be generous to you and to hear you out, so again, I thank you and truly appreciate your conversation with me.
I am into a busy week for me here at the house, so I will be reading and considering what your responses and learn from you as I continue in my research and writing on the topics from the somewhat flexible outline I have in mind for my postings. Above all these things, I will be prayerful and seeking wisdom in God's Word, as we all should do. I am not looking to cause arguments on any of these topics and my motive is truly to present what I have learned so far on these topics. We are certainly learning the things of God all of our life and along the way we need to make adjustments, refinements, and even complete turn-arounds on our own views as we are led and taught with the guidance of the Holy Spirit from Scripture.
Day 14 January 14,2025 Matthew 11:28 KJV West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar
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Matthew 11: Verse 28
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
"God will fight,defend, work for you. God is in you and you belong to God.Breaks yokes imposed of sin and false deities. God wants you to find his Word as freedom. Qouted Applications "Coming to him in humility,submitting to his teachings of promises." God wants you to become like him being the self sacrifice. John 7:37 God is the bread of life and living water( John 6:35). Have faith God will always supply need more then enough and you can reach yourself with God. I apply myself too which is a plus . "
I Pray to God asking to find peace and rest in his care. To run the race of opportunity to do the will of God. John 7:37-John 6:35.
I didn't know we was debating your interpretation of this topic of election.
You never started it!
I was just pointing out that the verses you selected in your series of God's attributes you are presenting to springboard the election topic is mis used.
This was your opening statement when you began this series.
"Here is my next posting to follow the post of last month. Again, i welcome your comments, corrections, or differeing thoughts.
You also asked me to explain my position as you have done. That will help you understand more fully my viewpoint.
That's what I thought I was doing.
This is a debated subject and rely on scripture to be put in its proper context and a correct view of God' and his nature.
There's a lot more I am going to say on this important topic and on Jeremiah 31.
Replacement theology and how they the two co-exist in this topic.
However I will take that to a separate thread.
I will also await your response that you mentioned and I will reply back.
However we can cut it short here if you would like to so it won't be any back and forth.
Hello C.N.C. Thanks for your question. Whenever I consider proper names in the Old Testament, I understand that names given to children are usually given for a particular reason. In other words, those parents don't simply look at how the name sounds, appeals, or its popularity (as might be done today), rather, what special trait might it represent or maybe a name taken from an important ancestor in that family line.
So, in the case of 2 Chronicles 3:17 (and 1 Kings 7:21), it could well be that the names of Jachin & Boaz were given to them for a particular reason by their parents. Now here in these passages, King Solomon wants to reflect the importance of these two pillars (which are certainly outstanding by their position, height, & proximity to those passing by the temple) & so he designates these names as we see here.
In Hebrew, Jachin (Yakin) means "to be established or be firm": maybe representing the God-appointed construction of this structure & its endurance and longevity ( 1 Kings 8:17-20) by Solomon. And Boaz, traditionally taken to mean "in strength & in swiftness". We could only imagine how such meanings could fit here; as Boaz himself was a man of great character & influence, ready to meet the needs of the family (esp. concerning Ruth), could it be that Solomon was envisioning God's Presence & Power displayed here, even as God was ever-present even as the children of Israel gathered outside & within the confines of the Tabernacle of the Congregation & dealt speedily with them, whether for their needs or in judgment? Just a few thoughts for you to consider - others here may share their understanding. Blessings.
I don't read these debated messages until I'm ready to focus on them.
Firstly, Thanks for responding.
Jeremiah 31:3 is not written "TO" anyone but Israel! It is a specific message "TO" them.
It doesn't apply to us as you stated, "God has loved us (His chosen) with an everlasting love"
Here is how the chapter starts.
Jeremiah 31:1-2.
Everything is written for our learning but everything is not written TO us.
God is telling Israel why he is going to do that which is mentioned in the following verses.
Jeremiah 31:4-7. and then-
8) Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
9) They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
Now look at verse 10! It's written to you and I and the rest of the world!
10) HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD, O YE NATIONS, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
This is future!
It Parallels with Jeremiah 16:14-15.
What you and I should take from that is that God keeps his promises.
If you were to go by what I seem to imply, God certainly cannot exercise His wrath or judgement on sinners because He loves the world (humans). This is not biblically sound and if it is biblically true, all people would be saved, but Scripture does not teach this.
Gigi that's far from anything I ever said.
I said, "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son" and the whosoever in these passages implies a invitation to EVERYONE!
Yes, it is the same. The prophecy is in Isaiah 27:12-13. It says the great Shofar will blow, and the Lord will gather His people from the four corners of the earth. This is very important because that's a prophecy that the Jews looked for.
It says He is going to gather them together, his elect (the Jews), from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, north, south, east, and west.
Hello Brethren, God bless you all and thank you to everyone that prayed for me back in December.
I have a question. In 2 Chronicles 3:17, why did Solomon name the pillars of the temple Jachin and Boaz? I'm praying about this now, and I'm looking through the scriptures. I find Boaz from The Book of Ruth and I find Jachin as a priest and as an original son of Simeon. Any ideas? Ruckman's commentary points out the original "pillars" are found in Exodus 13:21-22. I thought that was a really great observation.
Day 13 January 13,2025 Ephesians 4:1-6 KJV West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar
Ephesians 4 Verse 1
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Jesus Christ wants your eyes, ears, to obey God-Speaking,Actions,Attention of Communications. Seeing one another as equal terms also used fair and nice. Not to be a circumstance Quoted alot by Christian Devotion City of Lynwood&Los Angeles County.
Ephesians 4 Verse 2
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
"knowing Jesus Christ the truth, way and the life. The only way to live and meek.You can't do it without God. To have peace no evil hands toward another. All things are possible ( Matthew 19:26 KJV).God gives grace Ephesians 2:1-3 to abound a life of your own and Christian Church.
Ephesians 4 Verse 3
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
"Showing Jesus Christ is God the truth-produces oneness to all the world.Needs manifestation to the world for all people can be saved from eternal death and judgement.Jesus Christ is God the bread of life(John6:35)"
Ephesians 4 Verse 4
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Jesus Christ is God only to obey him."Speaking,Actions,Attention of Communications."You can have faith, believe and guaranteed results to have what God says he wants you to have.-Jesus Christ Himself Supreme Authority."
Ephesians 4 Verse 5
My Respond:
John 14:6 Jesus is the way, truth, life.
Ephesians 4 Verse 6
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Language you can understand, ruler, you belong to God and God is in you.
I have uploaded your parts 1-9 into my documents so I can better understand your flow of ideas and to think about my responses.
I am currently working on the next section of my posts and want to stay on that, so I do not intend to go back and forth on matters with anyone at length. But I will pray for guidance on what I am to post specifically to you and what will simply go into the next postings.
I hope you can understand this. I want to stay on track of what it seems to me to present here and not get tangled up in prolonged debates, although I think it is a good thing for believers to engage with each other in serious debates. So, with that said, I will most likely post a further response to you tomorrow after I have re-read all of your posts and consider my responses, if any, at this point.
As usual, I thank you for your input. We are "iron sharpening iron" here and my hope is that others will be edified with what we have to say to one another as we search the Scriptures for knowledge and understanding on these topics. I am most interested in you (and others) posting as you have, laying out your viewpoint in a reasoned and coherent way. This allows others to search the Scriptures for themselves on the ideas we present as we post how we understand Scriptures to reveal on these important topics.
Have a good night. I certainly hope that the weather in your state and area is improving. We are having a rather balmy Jan. here in the NW with temps in the 50's some days. Our plants are thinking spring is coming and beginning to sprout. But we usually have a colder end of January-early February, so I hope they do not grow to much to then get damaged by freezing weather conditions. But I hope to get outside and do some clean up around the yard from the tree that was felled a few weeks ago and other winter gardening/lawn care. The rainy Nov. and Dec. has kept me from doing these things. I am looking forward to being outside in the fresh air.
...we were like them that dream. What does it mean to be a dreamer? Dreaming is deeply connected to the realm of possibilities. The world of dreams belongs to the realm of the spirit, where all things are possible. This understanding reminds us to remain hopeful and expectant of breakthroughs, deliverance, or even miracles when we need them most. No matter how overwhelming or challenging the present situation may seem, we must stay conscious of a more positive outcome-made possible by the power of our God.
Is the ladder in John chapter one verse 51 connected to the ladder in Genesis chapter 28 ? If it is , how is it ? Does the ladder represent Jesus who is the bridge between heaven and earth , between God and mankind ?
Comparing first chapter of the gospel of John to the first chapter of genesis .
Is the ' Word ' of John chapter one , the same as the Spirit of God in Genesis chapter one verse 2 ? Is that possible given that ' all things were made by him ' ? It fits with Jesus being the Word made flesh as Jesus was filled with God's Holy Spirit without measure . Therefore Jesus is the Spirit of God made flesh . John chapter one verse 14 : And the Word was made flesh , and dwelt among us , ( and we beheld his glory as if the only begotten of the Father ,) . So the Word of John chapter one refers to the Spirit of God in Genesis chapter one and the Word was made flesh of John chapter one verse 14 is the man Jesus , who received the Spirit without measure , John chapter three verse 34 .
Here's a verse that will help you get pass all . Psalm 37:5
Commit thy way unto theLord; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
Ray
I would recommend to stay away from this research, because it will invite demon's and devils.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Hopefully, this was some help.
Ray
West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar
Me a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles California
1 Peter 4:10 KJV
My Interpetation: REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" To have life in Jesus Christ. A mouth to speak to become like God. I have used these methods reading holy bible, praying, writing, ministering- 1 Peter 4:8 KJV. A guaranteed result is report of praise.A language that we can understand. To be holy-set apart of God. Faith, repentance, hope, love.
I Pray for action of my spiritual gifts.
Word Spoken and Written by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar
Me being a member at West Angeles Cogic Church Cathedral Los Angeles CA
John 13:34 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
"A language you can understand.How to love God. Loving God. Adorned-Example Reverence Scripture-Revelations 21:2 KJV. Not to default and defraud. Identified Christian to be in Love of God with another.
Ways you can be in the Love of God are listen to his voice and word to obey, follow and do it. Quoted scripture for Christians Romans 12:2 KJV
Examples of God's love ,loving God,Love of God is Galatians 5:22 KJV, 1 Corinthians 13 to have faith and holiness.
John 13:Verse 35
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Disciple-Showing the holy bible (Jesus Christ) is life. To see Jesus Christ commandments as the truth and believe (passed from death to life) John 3:16 KJV-Allowing the grace of God work upon your hearts.
Word Spoken and Written by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
So sorry for this sad time. I will be praying or your mom and for you and your dad. I am glad you shared this with us. We love you and know that these past few years have been difficult for you and your parents. Stay focused on how great God is. I do think that the Holy Spirit does still work in the hearts of those who are dying even when unconscious. I believe that He continues to make His appeal to the spirit of the one dying until the end. So, even when we cannot communicate and share with the one we love, the Holy Spirit works far better than we can, bringing gospel truth to their spirit until the last. You have shared the gospel hope with your mom again and again. The Holy Spirit uses what you sowed. We will not know the outcome this side of heaven, but we can be confident that God gives her many chances to receive Him. She is truly in God's hands, as all of us ultimately always are since He is sovereign over all. Be comforted tonight and tomorrow. You have been a good and loving son to her and have tried to obey God for her sake. May you be blessed richly in this time of sorrow.
Reply to Richard Priday
Psalms 31:22,23,24___
strong city.
22
For I said in my haste, I am cut off from before thine eyes: nevertheless thou heardest the voice of my supplications when I cried unto thee.
23
O love the LORD, all ye his saints: forthe LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer.
24
Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all ye that hope in the LORD.
I am so sorry to hear this. My prayers go out to you and your dad during this tough time.
2 Corinthians 10:4 - (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, and that's the word fleshy, natural inclination. And he's presenting the character of these weapons. It isn't human!
But he says, in contrast, they are mighty through God. The phrase "through God" is what is called an Instrumental Dative in the Greek. Instrument in God's hands. It's very mighty. It's very powerful, to the pulling down of strong holds;
The word strong hold means fortress or castle. And pulling down, that would be what you and I would imagine about a building being destroyed and pulled down to make room for a new one. Paul sees that Satan has a fortress and he likes to hold people captive. And Paul says our weapons are spiritual. They're not human. And they are for pulling down strong holds.
2 Corinthians 10:5 - Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
Imaginations means opinions and philosophies. It's the word reasoning in Greek. Casting down opinions and philosophies, and every high thing, the word for elevation. It's a metaphorical term for attitudes. It's an attitude. Every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God.
2 Corinthians 10:8 - For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:
The Lord has given us authority for edification which means to build up, to develop. It's the traditional Christian word for growth. Notice he says the Lord has given us this authority. He's always emphasizing that. It's not through people. It's through the Lord. The Lord has given us this authority for edification, and not for your destruction. God never gave us power to destroy people, but to build them up.
2 Corinthians 10:1 - Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:
He says, Now I Paul myself, emphasizing his individuality. I Paul myself, beseech you. This word beseech means to appeal to someone. And he says by the meekness and gentleness of Christ. His appeal is based on the meekness and gentleness of Christ. In Matthew 11:29-30, Jesus presented Himself as meek and lowly. And so, Paul is saying that this is not something that he is presenting out of his own effort, but this is actually the meekness and gentleness of Christ.
The word meekness means to be open or to be receptive. And the gentleness of Christ means to have a soft response to an attack. Paul is saying that I as an individual, I'm appealing to you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ. So, he's presenting himself as being under the influence of God's Spirit, to approach them from a conciliatory standpoint, rather than anger.
2 Corinthians 10:2 - But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.
But I beseech you, and this word beseech is different than in Verse 1. This word is the word beg. So first we have an appeal, and then he says I beg you.
2 Corinthians 9:6 - But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
But this I say, He which sows sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which sows bountifully, and that's the word blessing. He who sows a blessing shall also reap a blessing.
2 Corinthians 9:7 - Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
Every man according as he purposes in his own heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, (that's the word grief), or of necessity: and that's the word pressure, for God loves a cheerful giver. The term "cheerful giver" in the Greek is the word that means hilarious. God loves a hilarious giver. And no, I've never seen one!
2 Corinthians 9:10 - Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
Now he that ministers seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and these are all Optative Moods in the Greek text. These are wishes, may he! May he minister bread for your food, may he multiply your seed sown, and may he increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
Do you see the emphasis? The God who provides the seed, may He increase your food, may He increase the seeds that you plant, in the sowing and the scattering of the seed, and may He increase your fruits in righteousness.
2 Corinthians 7:10 - For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
For godly sorrow works repentance to salvation not to be repented of: That is not to be regretted. But the sorrow of the world works death.
Again, this is the word METANOEO which is associated with salvation. We use it incorrectly by saying that Christians need to repent. If you're a Christian, you've already repented. There is a confession. There is a forsaking. But repentance is associated with salvation. When you make the decision to change the direction of your life, and surrender your life to Christ, that's repentance. Repentance, METANOEO, always leads to salvation.
2 Corinthians 8:2 - How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.
Again, the word affliction is THLIPSIS for stress. This is city wide. This is things that they faced in receiving Christ.
2 Corinthians 8:4 - Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
The word "gift" in the verse is the word grace.
2 Corinthians 8:16 - But thanks be to God, which put the same earnest care into the heart of Titus for you.
It is interesting that the word "thanks" in this verse is the word grace (CHARIS).
2 Corinthians 9:5 - Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before, that the same might be ready, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness.
The word "bounty" is the word EULOGIA which means blessing. Do it now under grace as a blessing. Don't wait until the last minute and find people that say I said I would give but I don't have it now, because you're going to desire to go out and get from other people, and he says it shouldn't be that way.
2 Corinthians 7:8 - For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent: for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry, though it were but for a season.
The word sorry is the word grieve. For though I grieved you with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent:
There are two words in the New Testament for the word repentance. One of them, and it's the word that is used here, except for at the end of the verse. This word is METAMELOMAI. It's the word used in Matthew 27:3 for Judas Iscariot. After he had betrayed Jesus, it said that he repented, which means to regret what he did. He regretted what he did, and he went out and hung himself. The other word for repentance is METANOEO and that is true repentance and surrender to Christ.
2 Corinthians 7:9 - Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
He says, Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, or you were grieved, but that your grief led you to repentance:
That's the word for true repentance, METANOEO. It's not the word for regret, METAMELOMAI, but METANOEO, make a decision for change. Your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made to grieve after a godly manner. The term godly manner is literally according to God. God made you grieve, that you might receive damage by us in nothing.
So, you won't experience loss. Paul was concerned that his words and his attitude might in a human sense grieve them in a bad way. But he says no, you were made to grieve according to God. Godly sorrow leads people to repentance. That's what he says in Verse 10.
There is so many good theologians that debate this study from different viewpoints.
I certainly like this study because it is so much to learn from it.
It brings us right up to the way God chose and who he chose to be the heirs of his promises to Abraham and these promises and covenants is essential to the Christian faith.
I to have a busy week and will be in and out as time permits
Here I will attempt to parallel the context of the passages previously mentioned in Romans 9 the references in the passages in the OT and these passages in Galatians.
Galatians 4:22-31
For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman
But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
More to come later.
God bless.
Parr 1
Romans 9:7-11 "Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
I've seen some
Replacement theologist use these verses to assign those of the flesh to Israel and they assign "Children" of the promise to the Church.
This follows after they mis interpret Romans 9:6.
However it's clear that the passages in " Romans 9:1-12 " is making a distinction between the children of promise and the children of the flesh. "BOTH BIOLOGICAL DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM.
Here's the old testament passages of scripture these verses in Romans 9 is referring to.
Romans 9:9) For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
OT reference.
Genesis 17:16-21.
Genesis 18:10-14.
Here we see the promise of Issac taking place and the child of the flesh that also Metaphorically represents the works of the flesh refused. Why? It's not according to God's purpose!
Note;
Abraham had 6 other sons by Keturah, "his concubine" Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah:
These are also children of the flesh.
Romans 9::10-11
And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
OT reference. Genesis 25:21-23
Isaac blesses Jacob and Esau.
Genesis 27:29
Genesis 27:37.
This has nothing to do with Salvation in regards of Limited Atonement, The Church or Replacement theology.
Galatians sums this up.
See part 2.
Again. thanks for your input.
I will take your input as a help to me. We can continue to speak on these matters. I just do not want to go into days and weeks of back and forth on one or two aspects of what is being discussed because that tends to take us far away from the overall content of what is being presented. I want to be generous to you and to hear you out, so again, I thank you and truly appreciate your conversation with me.
I am into a busy week for me here at the house, so I will be reading and considering what your responses and learn from you as I continue in my research and writing on the topics from the somewhat flexible outline I have in mind for my postings. Above all these things, I will be prayerful and seeking wisdom in God's Word, as we all should do. I am not looking to cause arguments on any of these topics and my motive is truly to present what I have learned so far on these topics. We are certainly learning the things of God all of our life and along the way we need to make adjustments, refinements, and even complete turn-arounds on our own views as we are led and taught with the guidance of the Holy Spirit from Scripture.
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Matthew 11: Verse 28
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
"God will fight,defend, work for you. God is in you and you belong to God.Breaks yokes imposed of sin and false deities. God wants you to find his Word as freedom. Qouted Applications "Coming to him in humility,submitting to his teachings of promises." God wants you to become like him being the self sacrifice. John 7:37 God is the bread of life and living water( John 6:35). Have faith God will always supply need more then enough and you can reach yourself with God. I apply myself too which is a plus . "
I Pray to God asking to find peace and rest in his care. To run the race of opportunity to do the will of God. John 7:37- John 6:35.
Pt 2.
I didn't know we was debating your interpretation of this topic of election.
You never started it!
I was just pointing out that the verses you selected in your series of God's attributes you are presenting to springboard the election topic is mis used.
This was your opening statement when you began this series.
"Here is my next posting to follow the post of last month. Again, i welcome your comments, corrections, or differeing thoughts.
You also asked me to explain my position as you have done. That will help you understand more fully my viewpoint.
That's what I thought I was doing.
This is a debated subject and rely on scripture to be put in its proper context and a correct view of God' and his nature.
There's a lot more I am going to say on this important topic and on Jeremiah 31.
Replacement theology and how they the two co-exist in this topic.
However I will take that to a separate thread.
I will also await your response that you mentioned and I will reply back.
However we can cut it short here if you would like to so it won't be any back and forth.
Blessings.
So, in the case of 2 Chronicles 3:17 (and 1 Kings 7:21), it could well be that the names of Jachin & Boaz were given to them for a particular reason by their parents. Now here in these passages, King Solomon wants to reflect the importance of these two pillars (which are certainly outstanding by their position, height, & proximity to those passing by the temple) & so he designates these names as we see here.
In Hebrew, Jachin (Yakin) means "to be established or be firm": maybe representing the God-appointed construction of this structure & its endurance and longevity ( 1 Kings 8:17-20) by Solomon. And Boaz, traditionally taken to mean "in strength & in swiftness". We could only imagine how such meanings could fit here; as Boaz himself was a man of great character & influence, ready to meet the needs of the family (esp. concerning Ruth), could it be that Solomon was envisioning God's Presence & Power displayed here, even as God was ever-present even as the children of Israel gathered outside & within the confines of the Tabernacle of the Congregation & dealt speedily with them, whether for their needs or in judgment? Just a few thoughts for you to consider - others here may share their understanding. Blessings.
Forgive me for responding to this post so late.
I held off from reading it until now.
I don't read these debated messages until I'm ready to focus on them.
Firstly, Thanks for responding.
Jeremiah 31:3 is not written "TO" anyone but Israel! It is a specific message "TO" them.
It doesn't apply to us as you stated, "God has loved us (His chosen) with an everlasting love"
Here is how the chapter starts.
Jeremiah 31:1-2.
Everything is written for our learning but everything is not written TO us.
God is telling Israel why he is going to do that which is mentioned in the following verses.
Jeremiah 31:4-7. and then-
8) Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
9) They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
Now look at verse 10! It's written to you and I and the rest of the world!
10) HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD, O YE NATIONS, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
This is future!
It Parallels with Jeremiah 16:14-15.
What you and I should take from that is that God keeps his promises.
If you were to go by what I seem to imply, God certainly cannot exercise His wrath or judgement on sinners because He loves the world (humans). This is not biblically sound and if it is biblically true, all people would be saved, but Scripture does not teach this.
Gigi that's far from anything I ever said.
I said, "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son" and the whosoever in these passages implies a invitation to EVERYONE!
I will need more space.
See part 2.
Yes, it is the same. The prophecy is in Isaiah 27:12-13. It says the great Shofar will blow, and the Lord will gather His people from the four corners of the earth. This is very important because that's a prophecy that the Jews looked for.
It says He is going to gather them together, his elect (the Jews), from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, north, south, east, and west.
Hope this helps.
I have a question. In 2 Chronicles 3:17, why did Solomon name the pillars of the temple Jachin and Boaz? I'm praying about this now, and I'm looking through the scriptures. I find Boaz from The Book of Ruth and I find Jachin as a priest and as an original son of Simeon. Any ideas? Ruckman's commentary points out the original "pillars" are found in Exodus 13:21-22. I thought that was a really great observation.
Ephesians 4 Verse 1
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Jesus Christ wants your eyes, ears, to obey God-Speaking,Actions,Attention of Communications. Seeing one another as equal terms also used fair and nice. Not to be a circumstance Quoted alot by Christian Devotion City of Lynwood&Los Angeles County.
Ephesians 4 Verse 2
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
"knowing Jesus Christ the truth, way and the life. The only way to live and meek.You can't do it without God. To have peace no evil hands toward another. All things are possible ( Matthew 19:26 KJV).God gives grace Ephesians 2:1-3 to abound a life of your own and Christian Church.
Ephesians 4 Verse 3
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
"Showing Jesus Christ is God the truth-produces oneness to all the world.Needs manifestation to the world for all people can be saved from eternal death and judgement.Jesus Christ is God the bread of life(John6:35)"
Ephesians 4 Verse 4
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Jesus Christ is God only to obey him."Speaking,Actions,Attention of Communications."You can have faith, believe and guaranteed results to have what God says he wants you to have.-Jesus Christ Himself Supreme Authority."
Ephesians 4 Verse 5
My Respond:
John 14:6 Jesus is the way, truth, life.
Ephesians 4 Verse 6
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
" Language you can understand, ruler, you belong to God and God is in you.
Word Spoken and Written by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
I have uploaded your parts 1-9 into my documents so I can better understand your flow of ideas and to think about my responses.
I am currently working on the next section of my posts and want to stay on that, so I do not intend to go back and forth on matters with anyone at length. But I will pray for guidance on what I am to post specifically to you and what will simply go into the next postings.
I hope you can understand this. I want to stay on track of what it seems to me to present here and not get tangled up in prolonged debates, although I think it is a good thing for believers to engage with each other in serious debates. So, with that said, I will most likely post a further response to you tomorrow after I have re-read all of your posts and consider my responses, if any, at this point.
As usual, I thank you for your input. We are "iron sharpening iron" here and my hope is that others will be edified with what we have to say to one another as we search the Scriptures for knowledge and understanding on these topics. I am most interested in you (and others) posting as you have, laying out your viewpoint in a reasoned and coherent way. This allows others to search the Scriptures for themselves on the ideas we present as we post how we understand Scriptures to reveal on these important topics.
Have a good night. I certainly hope that the weather in your state and area is improving. We are having a rather balmy Jan. here in the NW with temps in the 50's some days. Our plants are thinking spring is coming and beginning to sprout. But we usually have a colder end of January-early February, so I hope they do not grow to much to then get damaged by freezing weather conditions. But I hope to get outside and do some clean up around the yard from the tree that was felled a few weeks ago and other winter gardening/lawn care. The rainy Nov. and Dec. has kept me from doing these things. I am looking forward to being outside in the fresh air.
I'll be trying to get back to it by this weekend.
God bless
Is the ' Word ' of John chapter one , the same as the Spirit of God in Genesis chapter one verse 2 ? Is that possible given that ' all things were made by him ' ? It fits with Jesus being the Word made flesh as Jesus was filled with God's Holy Spirit without measure . Therefore Jesus is the Spirit of God made flesh . John chapter one verse 14 : And the Word was made flesh , and dwelt among us , ( and we beheld his glory as if the only begotten of the Father ,) . So the Word of John chapter one refers to the Spirit of God in Genesis chapter one and the Word was made flesh of John chapter one verse 14 is the man Jesus , who received the Spirit without measure , John chapter three verse 34 .
Luke chapter twenty four verse 45 .