Acts Chapter 2 Discussion Page 26

Hello James, I did not say that you could not receive the Holy Ghost before getting the Baptism. God can fill you with the Holy Ghost with the evidence in speaking in other tongues or stammering lips, before or after the Baptism in the Lord Jesus Christ name. However, the correct baptism is still very important if it was not so then he would not have had it written in the book of Acts showing those 12 men that had to be rebaptized Acts 19 1 7 in his name The Lord Jesus.

Hello James You also mentioned Hell and Brimstone. It is not those who carry the truth that condemn to Hell and Brimstone, but the Word of God has already stated who is going to Hell and the second death. Revelation 21 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone which is the second death ". The word abominable is all the sin not mentioned here that God does not like. This includes another form of wrongful copulation.

Evangelist is a title and Job 32 21 says Let me not, I pray you, accept any man 's person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man verse 22 For I know not to give flattering titles in so doing my maker would soon take me away. The oneness pentecostal heresy of modalism has damned many souls to hell fire and brimstone. Jesus said HIMSELF in Matthew 28 19 how to baptise. And the Evangelist will say well thats not in the Bible. Well if you try to rip that verse out how do you know all the other parts are right. Acts 2 38 is all Jews. Read the chapter. See verses 5,14,22,36 in Acts 2. The Gentiles were baptized in the name of the Lord in Acts 10 verse 48. The Father is called LORD see the O.T., the Son is called Lord see Phil 2.11, and the Holy Spirit is called Lord see 2 Cor 17. These GENTILES also received the Holy Ghost before baptism Acts 10 verse 11. Also the Catholic heresy about Simon Peter is nonsense. I don 't need the keys. I got the Door!!! John 10 7 and He is knocking and you can let Him in Rev 3 20. For the Evangelist see 1 Corinthians 14 38.

For the Anonymous writer concerning the Baptism. It is not just a little thing. It is the difference between getting into Heaven and going to Hell. It is very important that you get Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins. Father, son, and Holy Ghost are not names they are titles in which God operates in. I am a mother, wife, and a daughter but it is just me, one person, and I have one name. His name was given in St. Matthew 1 25. He stated that he came in his father name St. John 5 43. The name in which the Holy Ghost operates in is Jesus, St. John 14 26. The church age began in the book of Acts of the Apostles. There is no where in that book are in the Bible where anyone was baptized with the person doing the baptism calling out Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. If this is not satisfactory, in Colossians 3 17 it states "And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him ". You have to call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ when baptizing or else the baptism is not accepted in Heaven. Because Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of Heaven and he declared it on the day of Pentecost. This is the Bible.

Wait a minute, Jesus did not raise himself up. He was dead. Ecc.9 5, Ps.146 4, Ps.115 17.He had to die. If he was conscious at anytime during the three days in the tomb the grave then he wasnt dead. He could nothing without the help of his Father. Jn.5 19

Jesus spoke in tongues Mathew 27 46, Mark 7 34 and Mark 15 34. Speaking in tongues was one of the supernatural gifts that would follow the believer. They would lay hand on the sick and they will recover, they shall cast out devils, and speak with new tongues. Tongues is also one of the gifts of the spirit. There are for kinds of tongues 1 Corinthians 14 2 Sign for unbelievers, 1 Corinthians 12 10 tongues to be interpretated, Jude 20 21 For building up your faith I could use more faith , Romans 8 26 27 Helps us to pray when we don 't know how to pray Intercession. There is a whole Chapter in Corinthians on tongues, you cant find a whole Chapter on tithing or prayer. I wanted a Acts 2 experience rivers of living water. I spoke in Tongues and I acted like us was drunk on new wine it was the sweetist and strongest peace and it was the sweetist and strongest joy. Tongues are important, they are a part of our weapons of warfare.

The fact is that Acts 2 38 is NOT the "model " plan of salvation, nor are any of the other "water verses " which the cultists use. Only by taking such verses out of their context can one teach such heresy. All of the Bible is true, not just the favorite "proof texts " of the cults. Baptism saves no one. It only serves as a testimonial picture of the death, the burial, and the resurrection of Jesus Christ AFTER one has believed on Christ Acts 8 36 38 . Paul said in I Corinthians 1 17 that ". . . Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. " This "gospel " is defined by Paul in I Corinthians 15 1 4, and it does NOT include water baptism. The dying thief was not baptized, yet Jesus saved him Luke 23 42 43 , and John wrote that we are washed in the BLOOD of Christ Rev. 1 5 , not in the water. In fact, the saints in Heaven claim to have gotten there by the blood of Jesus Rev. 5 9 , not by water. By faith in the blood of Jesus Christ one is saved Rom. 3 25 . Water baptism only follows this faith as an outward step of obedience.

People get confused by not rightly dividing the word of truth 2 Tim 2 15. Chrisma means gifted. So a charasmatic is saying he is more gifted than you. Tongues are one of the least gifts one could have see 1 Cor 12 30 and 31. They are not unknown jibber jabber. They are languages that one did not have to study to be able to share the gospel with someone else. See Acts 2 verse 8 And how hear we every man in our own TONGUE, wherein we were born? then verse 6 , because that every man heard them speak in his own LANGUAGE. 1 Cor 14 22 says tongues are for them that BELIEVE NOT. Those who believe don t need to hear you speak in tongues. Also they are for a SIGN and chapter 1 verse 22 says Jews require a SIGN. Matt 12 39 says an evil and adulterous generation seeketh a SIGN. In acts 2,10,19 Jews are present every time because they couldn t believe that Gentiles could even be saved. Read chapter ten. You are not a Jew and most likely have no Jews attending your church services. When you are filled with the Spirit you will speak boldly for the Lord. Lets see you stand on the street corner and speak in so called tongues and find out how many you win to Christ with that behavior.

Commit to Sonia Escobar Jesus spoke of two experiences. One was like a well. The other was like a river. The well is salvation and is a must for all. The river is the baptism of the Holy Spirit which gives you power to become a witness. To be filled with the Holy Spirit all you have to do is ask Jesus to fill you.The evidence that you have been filled is tongues.

It doesn 't matter as long as you are born again you can baptize in Jesus name or in the name of father son and holy ghost it will get the job done we are all one body in Christ. Let 's not bicker about the little things.

Can you give me the interpurtation of what to receive the holy ghost in pentecostal vs. Catholic

Jesus raised up Himself John 3 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up. The Holy Spirit also raised Him up Romans 8 11 But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, He that raised up Christ form the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you. The Godhead Acts 17 29, Rom 1 20, Col 2 9 Three places by the way, they work together. One God manifested in three persons. Also in Rev 3 12 it was the same God that said in Genesis 19 24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven

Hey Trinitarians If Jesus were God, why didnt he resurrect himself, also at Rev 3 12 if the speaker is God, who is Gods God? Please dont fall back on " it 's a mystery " " thing either.

God is one, his name is Jesus!

We will not always understand what language is being spoken.their are an estimated 6,700 languages spoken in this world and some of those spoken by fewer than 1000 people.Sometimes it may sound like jibber jabber and not a specific language to you but i seriously doubt that you would be able to recognise the origin of all 6,700 of those languages.So that would make some of them sound like jibber jabber to you but it doesn 't necessarily mean that they are.1 Corr. 14 v.2 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men but unto God for no man understandeth him.God waited until the feast of Pentecost to send the promise of His spirit when there were jews from every nation under heaven Acts 2 v.5 because of the feast,there were also strangers of Rome there Jews and proselytes aka gentiles converted to judaism.This will not be the case in most churches of today most will have people from 1 to maybe 5 nations present but that won 't stop hungry people from recieving the Holy Ghost just like it did not stop Cornelius and the rest of the gentiles in his house from recieving it with the evidence of tongues in Acts chapter 10 .May God bless and give increase to the seed I have planted in you as only He can.

1 Cor. 1 27 GOD HAS CHOSEN THE FOOLISH THINGS OF THIS WORLD TO CONFOUND THE WISE.TO THOSE WHO THINK SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES FOOLISHNESS JIBBER JABBER AS YOU SAY.YOU ARE WISE IN YOUR OWN EYES AND YOU WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE THIS PRECIOUS GIFT OF GOD UNTIL YOU GET OVER YOURSELF AND BECOME BROKEN AND CONTRITE BEFORE HIM.SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES IS NOT MY WAY ,NOT YOUR WAY,BUT GOD 'S WAY OF SHOWING THAT A BELIEVER HAS BEEN FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST AS THE SPIRIT GIVES THEM THE UTTERANCE SPEAKING IN TONGUES ACTS 2v.4, Acts 10 v.46, Acts 19 v.2 thru 6.SPEAKING IN TONGUES WILL ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED FOOLISHNESS BY THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE WORLD.PAUL ADMITTED 'I THANK MY GOD I SPEAK WITH TONGUES MORE THAN YE ALL. 1 COR. 14 V.39 FORBID NOT TO SPEAK WITH TONGUES. DO YOU EVER HEAR ANYONE SPEAKING IN TONGUES IN YOUR CHURCH? IF YOU HAVE NOT THEN YOUR IN THE WRONG CHURCH.

People get confused by not rightly dividing the word of truth 2 Tim 2 15. Chrisma means gifted. Tongues are one of the least gifts one could have see 1 Cor 12 30 and 31. They are not unknown jibber jabber. They are languages that one did not have to study to be able to share the gospel with someone else. See Acts 2 verse 8 And how hear we every man in our own TONGUE, wherein we were born? then verse 6 , because that every man heard them speak in his own LANGUAGE. We do not need them today but they will be given again to the 144,000 in the Tribulation to be able to carry the gospel into all the world. Go ye and learn what that meaneth.

THERE A 2 TYPES OF TONGUES THAT I HAVE NOTICED 1 THE INITIAL SIGN THAT YOU HAVE RECIEVED THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AKA HOLY GHOST ACTS 2 4 ACTS 10 46 ACTS 19 2 6 THESE TONGUES ARE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE ACTS 2 39 AND MUST BE EXPERIENCED BY EVERY TRUE BELIEVER MARK 16 17 THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW THEM THAT BELIEVE new tongues JOHN 7 38 39 THEY THAT BELIEVE ON JESUS SHOULD RECIEVE THE HOLY GHOST 2 THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AKA HOLY GHOST COME AFTER RECIEVING THE HOLY SPIRIT ONE OF THESE IS THE GIFT OF TONGUES WHICH IS NOT GIVEN TO EVERYONE BUT IS ONLY FOR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE BODY OF CHRIST 1 COR.12 10 THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE GET CONFUSED MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

verse 38 Just what part of "every one of you " do you not understand? Every one means all. This is what you MUST do.

Whoso boasteth himself of a false GIFT is like clouds and wind without rain Proverbs 25 14. Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their TONGUES, and say, He saith. Jer 23 31. Wherefore TONGUES are for a sign, NOT TO THEM THAT BELIEVE!!! 1 Cor 14 22. For the Jews require a SIGN, 1 Cor 1 22. An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a SIGN!! Matt 12 39. In the book of Acts tongues were spoken on three occations, Ch 2,10, and 19. All three places JEWS who require a SIGN were present. You are not a Jew. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, Rev 16 13. Frogs catch their prey with their tongue. WATCH that little member. If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his TONGUE, but DECEIVETH his own heart, this man 's religion is vain. You 've been warned that that tongue will be set on fire of hell. Trust Christ alone to be saved or 1 Cor 14 38 is your verse.

The first born again experience is witnessed iN ACTS 2 4 AND HAS NOT CHANGED FROM 33 AD TILL JESUS COMES WE 'LL BE TALKIN IN TONGUES AS THE SPIRIT GIVES THE UTTERANCE. I GOT THE HOLY GHOST DOWN IN MY SOUL JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS ACTS 2 4

To have a nice day Acts ch. 2 v 38 comment. There is nothing confusing about this verse. It is actually what Jesus said to His disciples before going to heaven Math 28 v 19 is very definitely talking about the same thing. Read it please . Thank you

The Devil has used Acts 2 28 to damn many souls to hell and if you don 't watch out you will go too. Why go by Acts 2 38, a verse you get confused on when you can go by a clear verse by Paul the apostle to the gentiles Acts 9 15, Rom 11 13, etc. Look at Romans 10 9. That will get you straight to Heaven. If you want to be deceived, the idols in your heart will give you a bible verse to get you there. See Ezekiel 14 verses 1 through 9.

The Bible is to be interpreted by the Bible. This said, as for Peter baptizing only in the name of Jesus is a misunderstanding of Acts 2 38. Compare it with Romans 6 3 "Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? " Also Galatians 3 27 "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. "

Hello everyone, God is a just God but if none of us follow his direction we are going to miss heaven. God gave us a great plan of salvation using Peter as his mouth piece as he used Moses in the old testament, Jesus spoke to Peter and said thou art Peter and upon this rock I will not maybe build My Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it in Matthew 16 18 19 and as you follow in the bible and find the day Peter used the keys you will find him on the day of Pentecost when the keys were used Acts 2 36 47 and this gospel continues today it 's for everyone not just for the apostles back then and be sincere and try it for yourself, be safe rather than sorry. Peter obeyed Jesus command and Acts 2 39 speaks out loud. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And no one else can do any calling, seek out your own salvation and don 't just listen to everyone that consider themselves a preacher because the Bible tells us to seek it out for ourselves besides how can any of us say amen to the preaching if we don 't know its even in the Bible just because not suppose to, Study, Study and Study the word. God Bless You All !

Please read well the Bible and use the Holy Ghost to explain it. What Peter said is correct. He told people to be baptized in the name of Jesus. But do not think that when the act of baptizing itseft comes, that he did not use the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The meaning of what he said refers only to the fact that every think we do, we do it because of Jesus that God gave us as our savior. For example, if you say to someone "Come to Jesus ". Then do you think that this person will come only to Jesus and will have nothing to do with the Father God and the Holy Spirit? The ansuer is no. Then this is the same of what Peter said!

They preach what Jesus order them,baptazing all peoples by the name of Jesus

While it is clear here that Peter did baptize in the name of Jesus alone, in Matthew 28 19 JESUS Himself commanded his disciples, "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. " I tend to pay more attention to the words in red. Regarding being completely submersed in water for baptism although I have been , I do not believe is a requirement for salvation. The thief on the cross by his own admission did state that he deserved to be there. He had just met Jesus at that point, and yet Jesus promised him in Luke 23 43, "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise. " At no point would that thief have been baptized prior to his crucifixion.

There is no salvation message in Acts 2. They said What must WE do? Not one person asked what must I do to be saved. There is no mention of the blood atonement in this chapter. There is no mention of Christ dying FOR sins. This is their second chance to receive their Messiah that they had rejected. That 's why Christ said on the cross, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. He did forgive them and as a nation they turned Him down again in Acts 7. He was STANDING on the right hand of the Father ready to come back if they would receive Him. They rejected Him and He continued on with the Gentiles and will until shortly He begins to deal with the Jews when the rapture happens. Acts 2 is not how were saved. Read 1 Corinthians 15 verses 1 through 4.

The other disciples didn 't correct him because what he said was all they knew at that time. Acts is a transitional book. Until Acts chapter 7 the kingdom is still being offered. See Jesus standing in verse 55 at the right hand of God by the way. See GODHEAD in Acts 17 29, Rom 1 20, Col 2 9. Anyway they didn 't start getting straight on the Gentiles being saved by grace through faith until Acts 10. The Lord had to get Peter straight on his doctrine and they were baptized in the name of the Lord. The Father is called LORD in Jude 5 and the O.T. and the Son is called Lord in Phil 2 verse 11 and the Holy Spirit is called Lord in 2Cor 3 verse 17 and that is Gentile baptism matching Matthew 28 verse 19. You can 't find Acts 2 verse 38 being repeated again. Look at the words in the verse not what your pastor says they say. Please see that in Acts 10 they received the Holy Ghost before baptism in verse 47 then were baptized in the name of the Lord. It did not say Jesus name. You have to go by the text, not what you insert in it. By Acts ch 15 the apostles have their doctrine straight because they have realzed the Jews as a nation have completely rejected the Messiah and He has turned to the Gentiles. See in ch 15 the same Peter of Acts 2 38 says in 15 verse 9 PURIFING THEIR HEARTS BY FAITH and in verse 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we sahll be saved, EVEN AS THEY. Acts 2 28 is not for us today. I know it 's hard after being taught that all your life but God 's word stands as the plumbline. Have a nice day 1Cor 15 verse 38. "