Acts Chapter 10 Discussion Page 2



 
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 2 years ago
    I agree GiGi, these matters are very difficult to properly judge & sort out. I'm glad that all this is in the Lord's Hands, He Who will judge righteously, Who sees the whole situation & the hearts involved. Nevertheless, I do get quite sad when a marriage breaks down with no solution in sight & that spouses are consigned to singleness for their remaining days. It would be like losing a loved one to death, & then carrying that pain for a long time. Like many other issues in the Christian walk, each person must do according to the Word, trusting God for the strength to bear up & stay true to Him. There is always some discipline & suffering when we knowingly entertain sin, & though God may be all-forgiving, we still have to face the ramifications of whatever sin we commit, especially that which damages or destroys other lives. To live with that might sometimes be harder than falling under God's Hand.

    If the ministry from the Word is strong & consistent, whatever sins that might be hidden from the Pastor, will be manifest to the disobedient from the Word - they might even leave that Fellowship of their own accord & seek one that speaks sympathetically to them, welcoming them in. I believe that when we put the Lord & His Word first in our lives & in the life of the Church, Jesus will deal with us for the singular purpose of, "sanctifying and cleansing it with the washing of water by the word, that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish." ( Ephesians 5:26,27). And this deep Love of Christ for us illustrates the love that husbands & wives ought to have for each other (vv 24,25) - bathed with understanding, forgiveness, & humility, esteeming each other.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Acts 10 - 2 years ago
    HI GiGi.

    Now here's the reason I don't believe in Divorce.

    I believe a Marriage should model Christ relationship to the Church.

    Inseparable.

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Acts 10 - 2 years ago
    Sadly, Chris, pastors are teaching that it is fine to remarry even though to do so commits adultery, but, if you confess that it is adultery and you are forgiven, then you can go on living with the second spouse without a problem. I have heard this said by a number of pastors. Also, I have known those who remarry anyone who asks them. Also, they will put divorced and remarried persons in positions of leadership in the church, such as deacon, elder, teacher, or pastor.

    I have always believed what Jesus said about this. I have always believed that a person who remarries commits adultery as long as they remain married to this second spouse. I think I am among the few that still believe this.

    But our churches are full of divorced and remarried couples and their children. What are we to do about this? I do not know. Granted, some were unbelievers when they divorced their first spouse and have remarried a believer. I do not see this as an exception Jesus spoke about. Some were abandoned by their spouse, who left them for another lover. These are free to remarry, by Jesus' standards.

    For me, it is a dilemma on how to fellowship with Christians who are in such relationships. Many are devoted believers and pleasant to be around. I know that God forgives people who confess their sin, but is there repentance if one continues in the relationship one is confessing and seeking forgiveness for?

    We are in this situation because the church relented on the biblical position to avoid offending people or turning people away from fellowship or losing members. It is tough and I certainly do not know the reasons for each couple's prior

    divorce.

    It is so unfortunate that we do not have strong godly ministries for divorced persons that teach them that they are to remain single and serve God in that capacity to adhere to the teaching of Jesus. When they get remarried and then blend families and have more children, then it makes it difficult to end this additional marriage. ???
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 2 years ago
    Indeed Kenneth, what you write is very true: on the biblical teaching about divorce & those pastors who support re-marriage after divorce. Personally, I've not come across such pastoral teaching, but I'm sure with the many variations & colours of Christianity around the world, that wouldn't surprise me. When man, especially in such a position of teaching & shepherding Christ's Church, incorrectly teaches from God's Word, he will have to give the greater account of his life & ministry before God in that coming day ( Hebrews 13:17) - and Hebrews 13:4 reminding them & us that, "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."

    Maybe these servants of God have been compelled to water down or even overlook this matter about divorce & re-marriage because of the prevalence of it in their own congregations. I would think that that should be grounds for a greater impetus to preach against it & to put out any that are known to engage in such sinful activity. Sadly, the world is well & truly in the Church as the love & approval received from the people & job security becomes more important.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Hi Anthony,

    You stated that verses have been changed and taken out of the Bible, If you believe what you stated please give us the verses in question. Thank you
  • Jesse - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Carolyn,

    We are not given the names of the three men other than they were sent by Cornelius to Peter to enquire about the vision given to Peter. We do know that the three men were Gentiles, which is interesting.
  • Cindy - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Verse 19 of what book and chapter?
  • Carolyn on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Who were the three men in verse 19
  • Angela eugene on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    I love this Bible
  • Stoneguard - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Although the Holy Ghost was given by a holy and loving god, its primary purpose is to indue power to further ones ability to witness and proclaim the redemptive offer of Christ. (day of Pentecost) It also allows the receiver to pray in a way you could not prior to being filled. This gift is for all who desire and seek it. Paul said in acts he spoke in tongues more than any of the believers. But he was speaking of his own prayer time with god. The people were confused of it's use in the church. If a believer does not desire a closer relationship, and stronger ability to be his witness, they should forgo asking him for this precious and powerful gift. Although it is for all who ask, all will not ask.
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Yes, I believe that the same Gift of other Tongues that was given at Pentecost, or in Acts 10:45,46, is the same that Paul speaks about in 1 Corinthians chapters 13 & 14. There was no difference: from the same Spirit & for the same purpose, to testify of the Spirit's entrance & for the worship to God, whether in Church or in private.

    1 Corinthians 13:1: "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal." I can't speak about the Spirit giving an 'angelic' language to speak. What Paul was referring to in this verse, was to share the message of the superiority of Love over all Gifts of the Spirit. Even if he could speak in both human & angelic language, if love was missing in his life & ministry, then all that 'language' would be as noise; it would be useful, but love was the under girding principle in everything for the believer. And he takes that thought further in verse 2, 'if he had knowledge of everything or even mountain-moving faith' (which he didn't claim to have), if love was missing, then even in these things, he would be as "nothing" in God's Eyes. So, I don't understand that Paul was speaking of a heavenly language as a Gift, but was showing a comparison of the low worth of all Gifts (including Tongues), in comparison to the chief Gift of Love.
  • Brian Senyonyi - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Thanks so much.

    I try to understand it..But if so be it that these were other languages understandable by other and yet unlearned or can be interpreted, are they the same as angelic tongues? And second are they the ones the apostle paul talks about in corinthians 13 and 14? Thanks
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    From that account of the conversion of Cornelius & others of his household, when the Spirit fell upon them, they spoke in other tongues, i.e. the same Gift that the apostles received during Pentecost, proving that they had also received the same Spirit & that even the Gentiles could be saved. They spoke in languages that they never learned but their speech was understood by those who knew the language or maybe, interpretation was given. That is why Peter & the others heard those people "magnify God" through these unlearned languages.
  • Brian Senyonyi on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Praise the Lord,

    l would like to understands which toungues are meant in acts 10:46?
  • BSP on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Verses 34,35-This scripture helps us to see that no race or nation is better than another because we all have one common forefather.
  • Baptisms - In Reply on Acts 10:47 - 3 years ago
    " John 3

    5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.

    8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

    We are not always near a baptismal when we pray to receive Jesus as Lord and Savior. We are all SEALED with the Holy Spirit of promise; our names are recorded THEN, in the Lambs Book of Life.

    Water baptism is a Public statement of Faith in Jesus Christ. There are no rules on the timing of that public display. When Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist: it was to fulfill "all righteousness". It also fulfilled a prophesy of the event.

    The Holy Spirit is in charge of the NEW BIRTH. He seals us, He Baptises us. He bestows the gifts He chooses for us. He teaches us on sin, righteousness, and the World to come. He reveals who Jesus Christ is. If you need Anything... ask Him FIRST.

    The Holy Spirit is the 3rd Person of the Godhead. He is God. What the Bible teaches on this...is what it is. Believe the Bible; the written Word of God.

    There are many teachings on water baptism. Do what your Bible shows to you. I think it's a wonder way to celebrate a wonderful event with friends and family.
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10:47 - 3 years ago
    My considered belief is that, Yes, that person who is saved through Jesus Blood & faith in that redemptive work, will enter God's Kingdom regardless of water baptism. When he is saved, when truly convicted of sin & repents, at that very moment God's Spirit baptizes him. And this baptism entails forgiveness of all his sins, given a new birth by the Spirit taking up residence within & affecting his mind & spirit towards holiness, being fully accepted of God, becoming a child of God, receiving God's blessings (His gifts, His fruit, His inheritance) & the Spirit's sealing, marking him as one belonging to God making his salvation fully secure.

    If we add anything to that 'saving faith', the faith that God requires, then it amounts to acts or works that we perform to help in that salvation. It could be water baptism, the Lord's Supper, self denial, works of service & many other things that people do, just to make sure that God is pleased with them & accepts them. If that's the case, then it's no longer faith, but works that saves - and this goes against Scripture ( Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:4-7). But once we're saved by faith alone, then the ordinances of water baptism & the Lord's Supper follow, as well as pursuing a life of holiness & works of service generated by the new life in Christ.

    So neither water baptism or anything else apart from faith is required for salvation as baptism is only an initial physical testimony to you & others of a changed life being identified with the crucified & risen Christ.
  • YB on Acts 10:47 - 3 years ago
    If you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior (say on Friday).Your baptism is scheduled for Sunday, but you pass away on Saturday. Do you think that person will still enter the Kingdom of Heaven? I understand only GOD can truly answer that question, but your understanding of the word is appreciated.
  • Rob on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Acts 10 . 38

    Another trinity doctrine , proof of error .
  • Alex on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Comments by Alex on y Jesus was water baptised,Everything had to be fulfiled in the law of Moses. Even the washing of the 2 turtle doves by running water,th Jordan was running water One of the doves had to be killed and his blood sprinkled on the living Dove symbolic of the CHURCH that was made clean by the blood of the sacrificial dove, ( CHRIST ) thats y the Dove descened on CHRIST he was our sacrificial DOVE, mankind has a spritual leprosy and that was the offering for leprosy. One dove had to die for the living bird then the living bird was set free whom the son sets free is free indeed.Husbands love your wives even as Christ loved the church and gave his life for it ,jesus answers to the sacrificial dove THAT GAVE HIS LIFE FOR THE CHURCH. turtle doves imply lovers like CHRIST AND THE CHURCH ARE LOVERS. In song of Solomon the 2 lovers are CHRIST AND THE CHURCH BUT THEY REFER TO EACH OTHER AS HAVING DOVES EYES ( ONE DOVE HAD TO DIE FOR THE OTHER ) Christ and the CHURCH. Thats y the dove descened on Jesus marking him as our sacrificial dove . While the KING SITS AT HIS TABLE MY SPICKNARD SENDS FORTH A SWEET SMELL.Jesus was in the house of Simon the Leper when this was fulfilled,Thats when MARY broke the alabaster box giving the house a sweet smell,which answers to the lamb breaking the 7 seals of the book the new covenant,a birthing covenant, But for now we are all in the house of Simon the leper, Thats y he said you are made clean by the WORD i have spoken unto you,THE CONTENTS OF THE BOOK ( THE ALABASTER BOX ) thats y Jesus and the disciples had to be water baptised,it was prophetic that there was coming a greater baptism of the H.G. JOHN SAID HE MUST BE INCREASED AND I MUST BE DECREASED, WATER BAPTISM HAD TO DECREASE AND H.G. BAPTISM HAD TO INCREASE. John replied he that hath the bride is the bridegroom lovers as turtle doves are lovers ( Christ and the Church ) thus a Child wd be coming soon the H.G. the Child of Promise H.G. baptism on the day of Pentacost.
  • Claire - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Hi Chris,

    No problem. I trusted that you hadn't forgot, I assumed the delay was KJB reviewing them before they made them live. I will look for the new thread now.

    Thank you for all your help as always.

    God bless you & your family

    Kind Regards

    Claire
  • Rob - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Chris For you comment , the Bible it's self is in some places very easy a child can understand it , and some places only God knows for sure .

    The KJV is old English and a little harder for some .

    There was a lady that lived back in the 1800 s she was an Irish immigrant , she had no formal education .

    She went to churches then and doubted what the preachers where preaching , so she asked the Lord to read the Bible her self . The enabled her to understand the Bible , it must have been a KJV at that time .

    That encourages me that almost anyone can find the truth if they seek it with Gods help . Later she would stand up in church and tell the preacher they where wrong . Must have been quite a lady ! They nick named her Holy Ann .
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Hi Claire, just on a different matter. You had asked me some questions recently & I mentioned that I would start a new thread & give you my response. But I've checked there, & you haven't responded so I think you have not seen them.

    When you click on the Discussion Tab, you will need to scroll down all the comments until you see my name & then there'll be a new thread addressing you (there'll be a total of five pages) & it would be probably be a day old now. So you won't get an email for KJB Online to that effect as it's a new Thread. Just thought to mention this in case you felt I was being slack in my response.
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Rob, if there is any room for doubt, I agree with you that we should stick with what the Word says. For example, there is a tendency for some Christians to believe that Adam & Eve were not the only two humans created at first & there were other humans created simultaneously or even a pre-Adamic race. Since the Word does not even suggest these possibilities, I find it prudent to leave it as declared & would, in a discussion, raise the question of sin's production or its transmission to other races.

    Yet, the whole counsel of God, as revealed to mankind, is found in His Word & He expects us to understand it, search it & formulate our beliefs & practises based on it - or else, the Word would just be another history book or novel. Whatever I share here or when ministering the Word elsewhere is really on my understanding of the Word when I put it altogether with the light given me. If someone else has another understanding, I welcome it, but in a good discussion or debate, one must give a good defence of one's interpretation. If I have given wrongly, please point it out with other Scriptures so that I can consider your understanding better. Where you have given Scriptures, they have been very useful, yet other Scriptures are available to present another side of the doctrine/teaching. It does take quite some searching, prayer, & understanding to know the mind of God over a matter. Thank you again for your time.
  • Claire - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Hi Chris,

    Thank you for sharing the scriptures & the questions with me & explaining how it all fits together. It's a pity my Bible doesn't do that because it would make things a lot easier to understand. I feel really blessed to have all these spirit filled Brothers & Sisters on the King James bible online dot org taking time out of their daily lives to help & encourage newer Christians like me. I'm not that good at Auditory style learning, so I struggle to sit through long sermons & long prayers. I'm more Visual & Kinaesthetic, So having the right scriptures laid out in front of me & explained in black & white makes it so much easier to sink in. Praise God for everyone's continued support. God is so good !!!

    God bless you & your family.

    Kind regards

    Claire
  • Alex on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Comments about y Jesus was born, th birth of JESUS was just a metaphor that he was gonna be born in all of humanity,Thats y he always refers to himself as the son of man, the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in man hearts that it might intiate a birth of CHRIST IN HUMANITY mankind. Thus an Israel of God The reason Issac was born a type of CHRIST so that there wd be a natural Israel, But God found fault with natural ISRAEL, God wanted a Perfect Israel,one that wd come out of his own loins, his own seed etc th seed of CHRIST the living word. Ya gotta realize that Jesus sows a much greater seed then Abraham th seed of abraham brought forth humans but the seed of CHRIST will bring forth Gods in humans,to whom the word that heavenly seed came that good seed it made them Gods which is the Israel of God. th H.G. plural. Just as abrahams seed became as the sands of the seas, the seed of CHRIST is gonnabe as the stars of heaven in multitude,Thus the sower and his precious seed the living Word ( multiplication of his seed etc ) Now unto Abraham and his seed were the promises made but he said not unto seed plural ( natural Israel ) but unto 1 seed which is Christ th ISRAEL OF GOD A PERFECT ISRAEL. Thus its Christ that is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven, th Israel of God,Thus the woman with CHILD, humanity being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc.This is what GOD hand in mind all alone.God truly loved natural Israel but he told Nic. a jew he had to be bornagain. Nic needed to birth anew innerman one that did not carry the stain n spot of adam which is the H.G. TH ISRAEL OF God,Thats y Jesus said that which is born of the SPIRIT IS SPIRIT THATS TH H.G TH ISRAEL OF GOD. Our new heart and new spirit for behold i make all things new. Thats y JESUS was born that he might go forth and sow his seed in humanity producing an Israel of God a perfect being that did not carry the stain and the spot of adam, thats y we must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed.
  • Rob - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Hi there !

    I will hold to the written word of what God actually did !

    Unless you can prove you know more than God and can counsel him !
  • Alex on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Comments by Alex about y Jesus was born and died we all know it was the blood of the lamb that God wanted to cover the sins of the world But there is a 2 nd facet about his birth,A hidden facet, that was hid from the world which was multiplication of his seed that mankind might be like God by a new birth via his seed etc. The hidden facet is there is a child attached to his death n resurrection, That we all might birth a baby Christ in our hearts a new innerman a lil one, our own hi PRIEST IS GONA BE BORN IN US. Thats y he always calls himself the son of man,mankind is gona birth his own hi Priest within himself,thats y the good seed is sown in our hearts, know ye not this parable how then will you know ( understand ) all parables. Thats y he said these things are HID from the wise n prudent but revealed unto babes,( the babes and sucklings ) his offspring that are spirits th H.G. PLURAL TH CHILDREN OF PROMISE. Everytime he refered to himself as the SON OF MAN he was trying to tell us somethin, but he had to be careful as these things were hid till the woman, th world gives birth, th 2 nd coming,unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in thus the true rapture is when we are bornagain of that incorruptible seed producing a lil Child in US which is the H.G. th Kingdom of GOD COMING WITH IN US VIA HIS SEED THE WORDS OF THAT BOOK, SEE THE RAPTURE,THAT CATCHING AWAY VIA HIS SEED.the kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in joy and peace in the H.G. thus the H.G is the kingdom of God, unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil child etc impling bapt. of the H.G.The woman in Rev. 12 was raptured when she birth the child,her body didn't go any where but her spirit was caught up to God and to his throne,in v 10 John says now is come salvation and the kingdom of God, n the power of his Christ. she was in heaven waring with satan thus she was raptured spritually speaking. Unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil child.
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    To understand Acts 10:38, we need to look at the event it refers to, i.e. Matthew 3:13-17.

    Three Questions: Why was Jesus baptized? Why did the Holy Spirit come upon Him? Why did God speak from Heaven?

    1. Jesus didn't need water baptism ( Mt 3:15) as that baptism by John was for a demonstration of one's acknowledgement & repentance for sins (not like Believers' Baptism today which is identification with the death & resurrection of Christ). John himself said that it was he that needed Jesus's baptism, which was not a water baptism but a spiritual one ( Mt 3:11).

    2. Jesus didn't need the Holy Spirit to come upon Him or in Him - he was sinless, filled with the Divine in the womb, birthed from God's Seed without human contribution & using Mary as the vehicle to bring His Son into the world with flesh & blood. Jesus was later tempted by Satan to sin & to receive a sin nature but He withstood him with the Word of God, His Own Authority.

    3. God could have remained silent during this time, but He chose to speak from Heaven.

    What do these events tell us? It was the inauguration of Jesus' Ministry on Earth taking Him all the way to the Cross. His baptism identified Him in His priestly role ( Exodus 29:4, Leviticus 8:6) through priestly washing & also pointed in a faint manner, His prophesied death & resurrection, to which all who put their trust in Him would replicate by identification.

    Then two more confirmations from Heaven for the benefit of those around to Jesus' Life & Work: the Spirit descended upon Him confirming His priestly position through an anointing ( Exodus 29:7, Leviticus 8:12) & God's verbal confirmation of Who Jesus is & acceptance of His position & work, as was in the days of Moses & Aaron ( Exodus 29:42-46).

    Jesus came to fulfil a high priestly role that no earthly high priest could fulfil ( Hebrews 7:11-28) & all that took place at the Jordan, pointed to Jesus as sent from Heaven to make full payment for sin - no priest could ever do that.
  • Rob on Acts 10 - 3 years ago
    Verse 38

    Here we see God anointing Jesus for service with the Holy Spirit .

    Gods in Control over the other two , no surprise to me .

    If all three where equally God this never would have needed to happen .

    Yes God is sovereign in all things .


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