3 John Chapter 1 Discussion



 
  • Richard in Christ on 3 John 1:2
    Zephaniah 1:14. The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

    Zephaniah 2:3. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.

    2 Corinthians 4:5-7. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

    For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

    But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. Amen.
  • Anna on 3 John 1
    My soul prospers how?
  • Ebemba bitangacha on 3 John 1
    I love this kingjamesbibleonline
  • Edwin Hale on 3 John 1
    Who is the Lady tha John speaks of in 2 John?
  • Chris - in Reply on 3 John 1
    There have been many opinions on this verse, indeed on this letter. The truth of the matter is that we don't know her name - it's not given anywhere in Scripture, & some even believing that the 'elect lady' actually refers to a Church & 'her children' being the congregation.

    Those that have attempted to give her a name, have simply used the Greek definition for "elect" (eklekte) & "lady" (Kuria) & so named her. But there is no certainty of this. We could also see a similar use of naming folk in Mark 3:17: "And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder." Because of their 'thunderous boldness' (Luke 9:54, Mark 9:38), Jesus referred to them as 'Boanerges' (Ben-regesh).

    One could also assume that John referred to the "elect lady" (Eklekte Kuria) as such because it was not common to refer to women directly by name in a personal letter but he did so inferring her piety & kindness shown other believers, particularly to itinerant preachers passing by her way. Thus the warning also goes out to her about false Christs bringing false doctrines & teaching, even as he warned believers in his first epistle. Yet in his third epistle, John openly referred to Gaius (a man) by name with a similar testimony of his service as was shown by the elect lady in 2 John.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on 3 John 1
    GOOD QUESTION, I have heard it said it is Mary, however i dont know.
  • D W L on 3 John 1:2
    I Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

    6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
  • Penny Page-Davis on 3 John 1:4
    In Revelation 19:10 Who is talking when it says, "See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren, etc.?

    In Revelation 19:16 Why were the words "King of Kings, And Lord of Lords" written on Jesus' thigh and not on a

    more obvious part of his body?
  • Chris - in Reply on 3 John 1:4
    All we are told in Revelation chapter 19, is that a voice spoke from the (midst) of God's Throne (verse 5). This was not God's Voice nor His Son's, but apparently an angel assigned in regards to the Holiness of God. Elsewhere, as in the Ark of the Covenant, two images of Cherubs were positioned on either side of the Ark. So, it could be assumed that a Cherub or angel from God's Throne spoke to John. Also, we see in Revelation 22:8,9, a similar event, where John began to fall down before the "angel" but was forbidden to do so.

    As to Revelation 19:16, there can be no certainty as to where & why this inscription was placed there. A reasonable explanation could be that as the Lord Jesus, the Lord of Glory is seen coming as a horseman, outfitted for battle, his outer clothing (vesture) may have been an extended, fairly heavy tunic that was normally worn. This vesture had His Name inscribed on it & it was written on the tunic at about thigh level. It was common for notable persons (kings, warriors, etc.) from olden days to have their titles inscribed on their clothing & this might be seen of the coming Warrior King in the skies. But all this is only a supposition.
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  • Nnaji ugochukwu on 3 John 1:4
    Pls I need a bible verse that referred to Lucifer as a great singer or psalmist
  • Lucifer - in Reply on 3 John 1:4
    Isaiah 14

    9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

    10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou (Satan) also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

    11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols (MUSIC): the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

    12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (Satan) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms?
  • Spike4187 on 3 John 1:4
    Anyone have any idea what Peter is referring to in Chapter 2 Verse 10-12? 10But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

    11Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.

    12But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

    Thank you.
  • Mishael - in Reply on 3 John 1:4
    False Teachers, Prophets, wolves

    Heavenly Father, thank You for the many warnings of false teachers who cause such devastation in the Church. Thank You that the true gospelis contained in the Scriptures and I pray that in Your grace I would become fully equipped to identify false teachings and other deceptions in the Church.

    Help me tobe ready to give a clear and accurate answer for the hope I have in me and protect the hearts and minds of all Your people from worldly deception.

    We pray thatfalse teacherswouldbe exposed for their trickery andtheir deceptive ministries bebrought to justice - this I ask in Jesus' name. Amen.

    Always without fail read Trusted Commentaries (through Google if you need to), on scriptures that seem to be argued over frequently. See what the scholars said, like Matthew Henry. This is how to smoke out a heresy.
  • Harry Michael Edwards on 3 John 1:4
    Do you answer questions that we have about the scripture?
  • KNOW YOUR TEACHERS - in Reply on 3 John 1:4
    Sometimes I wonder if those asking questions are forgetting that the Holy Spirit is the TEACHER of all born again people. You are to cross check everything with Holy Spirit. Learn how to discern Fruit. Bad fruit is stinking doctrine. Be strong enough to say: you are wrong.

    Matthew 7:16 - Ye shall know them by their FRUITS. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    2 Timothy 4:3

    For the TIME WILL COME when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own LUSTS shall they (you) heap to themselves teachers: having itching ears.

    Hebrews 5:12

    For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

    2 Peter 2:1

    But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    Titus 2:3

    The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

    2 Timothy 2:15 - Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Romans 16:17-18 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them WHICH CAUSE divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and AVOID them.

    Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ

    Galatians 5:22-23

    But the FRUIT of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

    Mishael
  • Chris - in Reply on 3 John 1:4
    Yes, we love to receive questions from enquiring folk about the Word of God. You might receive different responses for your consideration, but by studying the Word yourself, in prayer, the Spirit of God will reveal the knowledge you seek. What matters is that we can study, discuss & share thoughts from God's Word in Christian love & fellowship desiring only to build up one another in the Faith & knowledge of the Bible.
  • THELMA L JONES ROWLAND on 3 John 1
    I don't quite understand the first part of verse 13, it states: a name in the gospel, or a good report in the churches is better than worldly honour.
  • Patricia on 3 John 1
    Meaning of John 2 or 3 -8. People born of the Spirit ???? Can't pull verse up to read or have discussion about meaning

    Can you help ?? To explain what he means by not knowing people born with the Spirit ???
  • Chris - in Reply on 3 John 1
    Patricia, are these the verses you're thinking of?

    John 3:5-8: "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

    In this passage, Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus, a Jewish religious leader, who approached Jesus to have a chat. He came discreetly at night to Jesus to avoid the possible gossip amongst his peers about this encounter. He also came with a great confirmation: "Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him." Jesus could have replied & told him what he probably wanted to hear, "Nicodemus you have correctly spoken about Me so God accepts you", but I believe that Jesus, as He usually did, looked at his heart & motive, when he answered him with verses 5-8 (above).

    Jesus could see that Nicodemus wanted Him, as a Rabbi (Teacher) to congratulate him & confirm His goodness, yet Jesus told him that a spiritual re-birth was necessary before you can be congratulated & confirmed by God. We are born once into the world & die & suffer coming judgement. But those who are born again, not by a natural birth, but a spiritual birth, will not die spiritually & not come under condemnation & judgement (Romans 8:1).

    But if this is not the answer you're looking for, then if you could please explain further your question "by not knowing people born with the Spirit"?
  • Brandon - in Reply on 3 John 1
    Here is some verses that will help:

    1 Corinthians 15

    22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

    36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

    37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

    38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

    39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

    40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

    41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

    42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

    43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

    44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

    45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    47The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

    48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

    49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

    50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

    Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
  • Millie Armiger Johnson on 3 John 1:2
    So this scripture in 1 john 3 regarding his wish that our health just as our soul prospers. So if I read carefully just now . Our soul is our emotions and reacts to what the spirit tell us. So the two can actually work together.
  • Drea - in Reply on 3 John 1:2
    That's a great assessment- the soul seat of our emotions and the spirit working together. My testimony is this the scripture The Lord gave me when I was afflicted in my body. I kept healing scriptures before me, but this one scripture showed me that He cares about my situation and that He was EAGER to heal me. Surely it happened but I now see this scripture in a different light. He is a source of life and love. He doesn't come to condemn us but to set us free.
  • Millie - in Reply on 3 John 1:2
    Amen! Praise God!
  • Richard on 3 John 1:2
    The Bible is clear in the fact that we can only prosper and be in good health if our ways PLEASE God and we strive continuously to be like Jesus dying daily pressing towards heaven with all our heart.

    John 15:7

    If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.

    King James Bible: If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    Christian Standard Bible: If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you want and it will be done for you.

    SO, if your lifestyle pleases God and you live 24/7 for God and you seek first the kingdom of God (matthew 6:33) then above ALL things you will prosper and be in good health. God cannot work with someone luke warm, he will vomit them from him (Revelation 3:16)
  • Anyaele Emmanuel on 3 John 1
    Going through 3John, I understand that what Diotrephes did in his days has been happening today in our midst. But to do good work is what every Christian must be looking forward to do.
  • Cecilia on 3 John 1:2
    i think the healthy soul comes before a healthy body the word of god says seek ye first the kingdom of god and all these things shall be added unto you
  • Sidney on 3 John 1
    Can one be 51% saved?
  • Adam - in Reply on 3 John 1
    It's my belief that if you genuinely repented of your sins, accept Jesus as Lord and you're actively following Him then you're saved. I believe it's either you're saved or not, a binary yes/no, not inbetween. Luke warm people are not saved. Revelation 3:16. However, God's grace has no limits. No sin is too great- except blasphemy- people have killed in the Bible who became influential Christians, like Paul. I also believe God is a fair judge and we will be rewarded according to our actions, so I think it's likely there are levels of reward within heaven and levels of punishment in hell. That is my own personal opinion.
  • Kathy on 3 John 1
    We are not to treat our fellow Christians like Diotrephes has. We are not to set ourselves above the other. It takes every member of the body of Christ to make the church. We are all important, no matter the position. We are to live our life as Christ would have us, loving one another, treating each other with respect, and most of all, putting God first in everything we do.


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