2 Thessalonians Chapter 1 Discussion



 
  • Someone was really sick. And had no money or insurance. I thought it was pneumonia. So I sold my diving tanks along with all the equipment to dive , everything. I sold it really cheep to obtain money quickly. Well , the person never paid me and after repeated times knocking on his door with no answer I gave up. The person who needed medical help pulled through with God's help. But I wonder how the dive trip ended out for him. I wanted revenge at first but backed away and moved on. That happened 40 years ago while traveling in San Bernardino California.

    I had some idea about our God and Jesus Christ but didn't really understand much of the Bible until lately and the Commentary on 1 Thessalonians 1-6 brought this all back to mind. So now instead of revenge I prayed for him not knowing if he was alive or dead.
  • Chris - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1:6
    Ultimately, you certainly did the right thing by leaving off the debt & committing him to the Lord. But was it really a debt that he owed you, or did you gift him the money because of love & concern for his life? Usually, a debt to be paid needs a written declaration, or else it can be construed as a gift with no compulsion to repay. Whatever, I'm sure you have received the greater blessing for your kindness.
  • James Davis on 2 Thessalonians 1:11
    I have a question of where the old testament gives full description of the city of our Father (heaven)
  • What does the son of man mean?
  • Edward Elliott on 2 Thessalonians 1:11
    God only hears the prayers of people asking for salvation and those who have already received Jesus as their Saviour.
  • The Prayer of the Destitute - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1:11
    Psalms 102:17

    17 He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer.

    18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD.

    19 For he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary; from heaven did the LORD behold the earth;

    20 To hear the groaning of the prisoner; to loose those that are appointed to death;

    21 To declare the name of the LORD in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem;

    In Matthew 6, there is a passage on unforgiveness against others, that prevents the Lord from acting on OUR petitions, or prayers.

    Mishael: thank God that everyone has a chance to get things right with God.
  • Debbie Shirk on 2 Thessalonians 1:11
    Hello, are you a Reformed Faith Christian following Pastor John MacArthur? Justin Peters? Sproul?

    Would you suggest a prayer I could send to my childhood friend who is hospitalized w COVID and now has blood clots in her lungs and legs?

    ...And please would you also pray for her?

    Thank you.
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1:11
    Yes Debbie we will pray for her
  • 2 Thessalonians 1.6

    Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you .

    I do pray for all of these that they learn their lesson and find mercy in the end .

    God is merciful and will forgive sins , but woe to them that offend one of these little ones ! ....
  • 1 Thessaloniki 4:16, Do this verse mean when we die and are buried, do we as believers lie in the ground until Christ returns? Or when we die, do we go to heaven then?
  • Mishael - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1
    Your spirit returns to God UNTIL the moment of the Rapture, when your body will be transformed into your new resurrected body, and joined to your own spirit; in the clouds with Jesus.

    We'll never again feel exhausted, depressed, angry, or old. Yay!!
  • Richard McVeigh on 2 Thessalonians 1
    I would like to know what bible verse is proclaim to man about my faith?
  • Chris - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1
    I'll add Galatians 2:20 to Hugo's list:

    "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me".
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1
    God bless you brother Richard

    Perhaps James 5:16 - ...confess your sins to one another...

    Or 1 Peter 3:15 - ... and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you...

    Or perhaps John 20:23 -...whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them...

    It could be Romans 1:16 - ...I am not ashamed of the gospel...

    Love in Christ
  • Word 76 on 2 Thessalonians 1
    Those that didn't wait for the True Christ and followed the first false messiah the antichrist who stands up in Jerusalem claiming he is God and he has supernatural powers so the world believe he is what he says he is and Christian who follow him did not obey the truth of the Gospels so they are in big trouble. They listen to a liar who claims he is going to fly them away and other lies.
  • Sheila Hyatt on 2 Thessalonians 1:8
    In 1 Thess 1:8 what does it mean to "obey the Gospel..."?
  • Jesse - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1:8
    Sheila,

    This is my understanding of 2 Thessalonians 1:8: It says "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

    In flaming fire taking vengeance on (two kinds of non-believers): on them that do not know God, and those that do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

    There is a difference. The second ones are people who just reject the truth when they hear the gospel. The first ones about knowing God, are those people that have had it revealed to them, as Paul calls it in Romans Chapter 1 that through nature, through creation, God has manifested Himself that He is real and that there is God.

    They might not have ever heard the gospel, but Paul says in Romans Chapter 1 that the testimony of God is in every person's heart that enters into this world, so that no one can stand before Him with an excuse.

    Even if they never hear, the bible says that the Holy Spirit is using creation as a testimony to people's hearts. So both kinds of non-believers will be judged with vengeance from God.

    I hope this helps!
  • Chris - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1:8
    Jesse, when I saw your mention of: "the Holy Spirit is using creation as a testimony to people's hearts" & "through nature, through creation, God has manifested Himself that He is real and that there is God", I immediately remembered a quote from Abraham Lincoln written in the margin of my Bible at Psalm 19:1-6. It is:

    "I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God."

    Shouldn't the beauty & majesty of Creation provoke mankind to search out the Living God & He is ever waiting to hear that call (Jer 29:13). And even the Gospel of Christ comes with the same Glory, yet the value of the Gift of God is deemed weak by many because they prefer to try and earn their way into Heaven.
  • Jesse - in Reply on 2 Thessalonians 1:8
    Chris,

    That is a great quote from a great man. It paints a picture of so many things in my mind. Our focus should not be on the horizontal, but the vertical. I am going to print this quote out and put it up in my office. Thank you so much for sharing this!
  • There is a lot I don't know or understand but I do understand these commands that Jesus give. What is important is be ready -- Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also READY: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
  • Psulmorgan on 2 Thessalonians 1
    Love..is.g OK od
  • Verse 3~The congregation was abounding in love and charity towards one another and today we should follow that same example in the congregation.
  • A disciple on 2 Thessalonians 1
    "..your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:" It should not offend us that God tries our hearts and proves our faith by trial of fire. The precious and godly character must be purified and separated from the reprobate.
  • 2 Thessalonians 1:2 Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Let Jesus Christ have all the glory with the power of God. Always loving Jesus.
  • Irene123, your right, we are not here to bully people in words of anger for our pride of the God's Word. But, we are here to worship God in truth and honor. When Adam ate of the forbidden fruit of knowledge of good and evil, Satan took control of this world. Now God has to redeem of back by sending his Son Jesus Christ. That is all explain in all of Apostle Paul's episode. God bless you
  • Irene123 on 2 Thessalonians 1
    V. 8 - "In flaming fire ... on those who know not God ..."; this is exactly why we are here now - and not in heaven as soon as we are saved - to try to pull 'those' out of the fire - hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. We're not here to 'rail' on those who don't know or are obtuse enough to think they know; we are to pray for and love ALL mankind.
  • Immanuel on 2 Thessalonians 1
    Don't act like you serve GOD.
  • Bruce. Comfort Is because Paul had a bunch of mourners worried about where their loved ones had gone when they had departed. Paul letting them know that as Christ had rose from the dead their loved one also had rose and when Christ returns their love ones will also return. Air here is spirit breath of life, spiritual bodies. Clouds is as the race Paul spoke of crowd.All changed one time 7th Trump.
  • 1 Thess 4 is where are the dead and they are returning with Christ 7th trump and we can't proceed them. Why? Because they are with Him coming here to set up His Kingdom and when He returns to Jerusalem which is the gathering place for all those worshipping a fake Christ that is instead of Christ which is to say antichrist the land will be flattened, hail stones fire. But we who wait will be fine.
  • Clemestine Martin on 2 Thessalonians 1
    The word is unto the church to encourage them to stand with each other's and that God will revenge his people. Also to the unbelievers to get it right.


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