2 Samuel Chapter 21 Discussion

  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 2 years ago
    Hi Shellon. I'm unsure which period of David's reign you're thinking of, but 2 Samuel 5:9-13 indicates that his throne was in Jerusalem, and he called it "the city of David". Even the king of Tyre, hearing about the greatness of David, sent lumber & workers to build this house for him. So, one could safely assume that David & his large family lived here.
  • Shellon Hooten on 2 Samuel 21 - 2 years ago
    Did King David's family ever live in his house?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 2 years ago
    1 Samuel 14:49, 1 Samuel 18:20-28, 1 Samuel 19:11-18, 1 Samuel 22:1,5, 1 Samuel 23:13-14,24,29, 1 Samuel 24, 1 Samuel 25:44,

    2 Samuel 3:12-16, 2 Samuel 6:15-23,

    * 1 Samuel 6:23,

    Note : 2 Samuel 21, vrs 8 "she brought up" didn't say bore, begot, or birthed. 1 Samuel 18:19, looks like she "brought up" her sister Merab's sons.

    Hopefully these are helpful.
  • Rick - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 2 years ago
    Hi Victor Yes
  • Victor on 2 Samuel 21 - 2 years ago
    2 Samuel 21:8

    "the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite"

    are they sons of Michal the daughter of Saul?
  • Rick Colombe - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 3 years ago
    Thanks for your input Chris. After to reading your post, it has given me reason for more thorough research. Thanks again.
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 3 years ago
    What you read in 1 Samuel 31:4,5, does show that Saul & his armour bearer fell on their swords & were buried by the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead under a tree at Jabesh (vv 11-13).

    Then in 2 Samuel 21:12, King David comes onto the scene. He willing to avenge the death of the Gibeonites, took Saul's children, except Mephibosheth, & gave them to the King of Gibeon to slaughter them to avenge the death of his people. This they did & then David, hearing of this later, came to where the remains of Saul & the others were & took them & buried them amongst the tribe of Benjamin (vv 12-14).

    However, the apparent discrepancy about Saul falling on his sword or whether the Philistines killed him instead, can be cleared up by understanding that, Saul's wounding was as 'sore wounding', i.e. it was a fatal wound but that death would be some time in coming. Thus Saul hurried it up by committing suicide. But the Scripture tells us that the Philistines actually struck the death blow - Saul just finishing off the job, so to speak.
  • Rick Colombe on 2 Samuel 21 - 3 years ago
    Something doesn't read correctly here, as verse 12 states that the Philistines slew Saul in Gilboa. How is that

    possible when Saul and his armor bearer fell on their own swords back in I Samual 31: 4&5? They were both dead!
  • Mrs howard on 2 Samuel 21 - 3 years ago
    Does people who have 6 toe's today still have gods love Thank's and god bless you for your time
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 3 years ago
    To add to my comment, I hope the previous comment was clearly understood for that specific section of scripture referenced. However if you were trying to study David's decisions that looked 'cowardice' or atleast appearance of.

    1 Samuel 27 ,

    2 Samuel 11

    2 Samuel 15:14-37

    Hope that's helpful in your studies
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 3 years ago
    3 years famine: 2 Samuel 21:1

    Michal was David's 1st wife: 1 Samuel 18:20, 1 Samuel 25:44,

    2 Samuel 21:8-9

    He buried the bones of the family he loved : 1 Samuel 18:1, 2 Samuel 21:12-15

    & he had just faught the Philistines

    Doesn't sound cowardice

    Exhaustive mentally, emotionally & physically, yes
  • Waxed faint on 2 Samuel 21 - 3 years ago
    I still can't understand David waxed faint? Is that saying that his cowardice grew considerably?
  • Stanjett - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 4 years ago
    One of the dead was her son Mephibosheth.
  • Stanjett on 2 Samuel 21 - 4 years ago
    There was 2 with name of Mephibosheth. One was Jonathans son, which was spared. The other was Sauls son born of Rizpah, who was turned over to be killed. Same names confuses us sometimes.
  • Anne - In Reply on 2 Samuel 21 - 4 years ago
    It's mentioned that she brought them up not that she gave birth to them.
  • Ronald on 2 Samuel 21 - 5 years ago
    I was cross refereeing the same chapter on another Bible version and i found out that Elhanan killed Goliath the English Standard Version but King James Version states clearly that it was brother to Goliath.
  • BSP on 2 Samuel 21 - 6 years ago
    Verse 7~David showed loyalty to his oath by showing kindness to Mephibosheth. We want to honor our word too.
  • Ren on 2 Samuel 21 - 6 years ago
    According to 1 Samuel 18:19, Saul married his daughter Merab to Adriel. The five sons that sprang from this union were put to death by the Gibeonites. Michal just brought them up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:
  • Dewey J on 2 Samuel 21 - 8 years ago
    Lynett, v8 of this chapter explain or answer your question the King David gave Rizpah's two sons Armoni and Mephibosheth King Saul's grandsons to the Gibeonites to be executed. Aiah Saul's wife or concubine gave birth to his daughter Rizpah v8. Glory be to God in the highest through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ amen!
  • C. Keen on 2 Samuel 21 - 9 years ago
    Someone mentioned a contradiction in 2 Samuel 21:8 and 2 Samuel 6:23. It says she brought them up for Adriel. Maybe they were her stepsons
  • Vermell on 2 Samuel 21 - 9 years ago
  • Lynette on 2 Samuel 21 - 9 years ago
    Can someone explain the significance of verse 10. Why do you think Rizpah was mentioned ?
  • Priscilla Everett on 2 Samuel 21 - 10 years ago
    Thank God for grace, for Jesus Christ who delivered us the law of sin and death. God you imagin, if we were still living in the old testament days, where there is instant judgement for sin. Saul decendants did not agree to Saul killing the Gibeonites, but they still died beacuse of Saul's bad decision. Thank God we are delivered from generational curses.
  • B.J.Manuel on 2 Samuel 21:1 - 11 years ago
    Proverbs 20:7 declares "The just man walketh in his integrity. his children are blessed after him." Unexpected suffering, such as famine, pestilence and persecution, does not negate the promises of God nor does it reduce His ability to keep those people whom He has promised to keep. It is possible that God's promised blessings can intertwine with local or global suffering. When all things work together for the good of God's good children, it does not say that it will look good, always feel good, or be pleasing to our senses at all. God wills it for good; it is up to us to trust in those dark hours when it might appear that all is being lost. He will not leave his children comfortless or disconsolate. It is up to the children to keep steadfast faith when things seem to be against them instead of for them. God cannot lie. It is for us to walk by faith not by sight. We know that we win during and after the crippling, searing tests have all be completed. "In the shadow of his wings there is rest, sweet rest."
  • Mary on 2 Samuel 21:1 - 11 years ago
    2 Samuel 21:1-9 Principle illustrated: David taking responsibility for Saul�s actions which shows David being a man after God�s own heart. There was a famine in the land of Israel because Saul had killed the Gibeonites. David faced the Gibeonites for Saul to see if there was anything that he could do for them. They demanded that he deliver seven men of Saul�s sons to them because they had insisted that they should be destroyed. The Lord chose the men who He wanted David to send. David did not send Mephibosheth because of his oath with Jonathan not to destroy each other�s seed. The Gibeonites would hang those men for what they had done. The consequences from wrong doing can be devastating.. God has brought to my attention that everything I do has an influence on people. I sometimes forget that people look up to me. What I think is �why me?� I am nobody special. I am just a sinner trying to live for God. People notice when you �do� and �do not� do the right thing and live for God. Through my years, I have learned that doing the right thing is what God wants us to do and if we do it we will be set up for the blessings. God blesses and removes the chance of famine when I learn to do what is right.
  • Seun on 2 Samuel 21 - 12 years ago
    What has been done before (david killed Goliath;a giant)is an indication that it can be done again:his servants killed giants( 1sam 21:22)so if you believe,you can also achieve great feats

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