2 Samuel Chapter 12 Discussion

  • Crossroman - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    Thanks Chris.
  • Dianne - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    Hi Chris The challenge daily is either walking by the senses the flesh or by the spirit it is written which constant renewed mind, we either look to the world or look to the word. I believe we agree God Bless
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    Thank you for your thoughts & suggestions (as I also read your comment to Dianne). This would indeed become a much protracted discussion if pursued. The only comment I offer for my understanding of Romans chapter 7, is the apostle's clear use of the personal pronoun & present/past tenses, as appropriate.

    I realize that there are other views on this passage, & even in my attempt to engage with those views for the purposes of learning a different perspective to mine, my reading & understanding of what Paul is expressing seems to be the most natural & obvious. Blessings to you.
  • Crossroman - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    Hi Chris, as I wrote to Dianne I say to you also. There are two predominant prevailing views on Romans 7, and one should examine them carefully before aligning with the one or the other. There is plenty of information on the web. If you have made your informed choice then that is the end to it, but I would advise you spend some time on these two views before you claim the wrong one because these views are directly opposed to one another, just like the Spirit and the flesh are, and to claim the wrong view is to champion both law and flesh instead of the Spirit.
  • Dianne - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    Drake Last but not least Psalm 103:1-14 especially look at 10-12, 12 as far as the east is from the west so far hath he removed our transgressions from us, north and south are poles if you go south you'll eventually go north and vise versa east and west never meet if you go west your always going west and vise versa, really something to think about. God Bless
  • Dianne - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    Drake Some things to think about your heart for God is evident, 1 John 3:20+21 also Romans 8:28-39 thats in the context of walking by the spirit i.e. Gods word. Nobody is worthy of this, we have been made the righteousness of God in Christ, all sins are paid in full God looks at us as his family. Look at the logic an earthly father when a mistake is made instructs and teaches so that the error gets corrected. Our heavenly Father God gave us everything through Jesus Christ who is our greatest example. In 2 Timothy3:16+17 is the purpose of Gods word verse 17 That the man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good works. The word throughly is not in error its there because we have been made clean by the accomplished work of Jesus Christ. i never think about what I was I endeavor to think about 2 Corinthians 5: 17-21. This is Gods Heart for His Kids us. God Bless
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    Hello Drake. The anguish you feel is mirrored in so many of us. The Apostle Paul suffered under the same spiritual cloud when he looked at the conflict in himself, between sin & his spirit. Romans 7:14-23 shows that conflict. But after his agonizing over it, he could find that victory lay not within him, but in the Person of Jesus Christ.

    Even the Psalmist in Psalm 73:21-26, despaired of his unworthiness before God (was seen as a beast before Him & with a body & heart that failed God in life & in death). Yet, even he could raise himself up & proclaim that inspite of this, God was still his Strength, that His Presence hadn't left him & he would be guided in this life & into the next.

    All God ever expects of His children is to humble themselves before Him, acknowledging that there "dwelleth no good thing" as far as our flesh is concerned. When we bring our sins & shortcomings before Him & our desire is not to the sin but only to the Saviour, He sees the heart that is inclined towards Him: a heart of faith, of hope, of expectation in our final redemption from this Earth. "He knoweth our frame; He remembereth that we are dust", but He also knows where the blood of His Son has been applied, and that not one of His sheep will be lost or plucked from His Hand.

    We can confidently rest on such Scriptures, but if sin overtakes us, we look up & reach out for our Father & receive assurance of forgiveness & restoration. You've shared a mighty testimony declaring your love for the Lord; this cannot come from a heart succumbed to a sinful life, but of one engaged in the earthly battle in the spiritual realm, trusting the Lord for that extra measure of faith & strength. "This is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith." Faith in Christ alone who has gotten us the victory through His Cross. Stay strong brother - keep looking up in faith & looking down into His Word for you.
  • Drake dyck on 2 Samuel 12:31 - 2 years ago
    My greatest fear when i look at my own sin, is that we belong to a just God. He cannot deny Himself. There will defiantly be consequences for our choices in life. My hope and my prayer is, when I finally turn my back to this darkness in my life, God will allow His face to shine on me once again. I love you Lord, I love You so much, I repent inside myself.

    From everlasting to everlasting, You are Lord. Kind, and gracious, full of love, and compassion with a desire to see us succeed. Praise Your holy name,
  • Steve Vick on 2 Samuel 12:23 - 3 years ago
    Love the KJV , bible online !

    Only bible I trust to study & know it is Gods preserved Words in English.
  • Steven Spencer - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12 - 3 years ago

    Transliteration: shelmh

    Pronunciation: shel-o-mo'

    Definition: From H7965; peaceful;

    {Shelomoh} David s successor: - Solomon. Definition from the strongs dictionary.
  • Alex on 2 Samuel 12 - 3 years ago
    2 nd Samuel 12 : 24 And David COMFORTED his wife Bathsheba and went in and lay with her and she bear a Son and called his name SOLOMON In Hebrew Solomon means Comforter and Solomon was the 3 rd person in the Davidic Kingdom, like wise Jesus refers to the 3 rd person of the heavenly Kingdom which is the H.G as the COMFORTER several times. Just as Solomon came out of the loins of DAVID ,THE H.G COMES OUT OF THE LOINS OF CHRIST Jesus, as his breath was his word and his word is his seed after Jesus breath on them he said receive ye the H.G. Then he said b/c i have spoken these Words/seeds sorrows have filled your hearts then he describes a woman in travail and birth pains which answers to the woman in rev 12 giving birth. Her child is the H.G th Comforter. Our Comforter is the H.G. as jesus said. The 3 rd Person of the Kingdom, but a greater king then Natural Solomon. Thats y Jesus is saying a greater then Solomon is here impling that natural solomon was a type of the HG TH COMFORTER k
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Samuel 12:8 - 3 years ago
    David & Solomon would have known the requirements of Deuteronomy 17:14-20 especially & as well, 1 Samuel 13:14 does show God's own selection for Israel's next king, but the fact of the matter is that David failed God in many respects. He was still the chosen one, yet still human with failings, but God could find the qualities in David that were absent in Saul. David's disobedience through a multiplicity of wives, & desire for Bathsheba in particular, brought on the required sorrow & discipline.

    There are both fine godly men & women in the Church today. True, we are also products of our cultures, environments, & circumstances, but those who are truly walking in the Spirit & filling themselves with the Word of God, are continually subject to His directions & the proper thoughts & decisions they have to make.

    Both men & women need to shoulder the blame where wrong has been committed since we have departed by not applying the Word to our lives. We might expect our wives to be submissive to us, but we fail to singularly & passionately love our wives & see to their needs. If the modern wife disregards her position then either she is re-interpreting the Word to suit, or the husband has failed in his calling to love her. Those constantly walking in the Spirit are those who are constantly sensitive to the Lord & to each other in marriage.
  • Kenneth Digness on 2 Samuel 12:8 - 3 years ago
    Interesting that Duet 17th chapter was obvious to both David @ Solomon.David was quote a man after Gods own heart? 250 wives and concubines for David.He had to have another . Women in those days were treated miserably .the Lord seems to contradict himself in the Scripture here. The same reference in the K.J for Abigal and Bathsheba He sent his Men after them.What a Guy! What man in his prime would not have wanted to be one of these two?A Christian man today finding a real God Fearing woman Good Luck I am 67 years old how the culture has changed todays women even in the church. And much of the marriage issues in church are blamed on the man.
  • BSP on 2 Samuel 12 - 5 years ago
    Verse 24~Jehovah God loved Solomon. Solomon started out as a very humble and modest man and this is what made God love him.
  • Bruce on 2 Samuel 12 - 5 years ago
    Alex: Where do You Find Scriptures that Prophesied 12 Times: Solomon Comes Out of David's Loins? The Holy Ghost is Not a Grandson Or a Child. Private interpretation Only Leads People to The Wide Road. The Holy Ghost is Not, H.G
  • EPHACY C. LIPENGA on 2 Samuel 12 - 5 years ago
    David knew exactly that he had sinned against the Lord, but God provided an enviroment in which David would be able to repent.This is how God still works, he is looking for our repetance, not our destruction
  • April on 2 Samuel 12 - 6 years ago
    Father wants ALL of us,not part,not when it's convienent for us,we were made to have a relationship with him,to serve,and I will admit,there are plenty of times I have in tears spoke to him,ashamed of my doings,and think of passages I've read and feel disappointed with myself,for allowing the flesh to over come the love I know I have for FATHER,it is I forsaking him,not him Forsaking me,God BlessU
  • Zwailia Jones on 2 Samuel 12 - 6 years ago
    I learn a lot reading it but an eye opener when this word was given for me to listen to and read as well,
  • Anne on 2 Samuel 12 - 6 years ago
    Thank God for Ps.51 - for repentance and forgiveness.
  • Lu2677 on 2 Samuel 12 - 6 years ago
    2 Samuel 12:13 (David acknowledged his sin, in repentance.) He paid dearly, God caused his son to be ill, and the child died. David asked God to save the child, God did not oblige him this time. God forgave David.
  • Peter A. Okebukola on 2 Samuel 12 - 6 years ago
    How intriguing that the Lord will hearken onto sinful David and give him a replacement son-Solomon. Like his father David, Solomon became the apple of God's eye until he himself transgressed. Our great God of heaven is predictable. If we sin, He will chastise. If we ask for His precious Blood to wash away our sins, He will oblige. If we continue in sin, His hammer falls on the sinner.
  • A disciple on 2 Samuel 12 - 6 years ago
    (cont. to Forgiven) "If you love me keep my commandments." It is a prayer inspired by an unrepentant and selfish heart, that prays for God to bless an unlawful love affair. Is one of them married? Are they toying with sin? What is the conflict, since you know that its wrong? and why then do you ask God to still be nice to you and your "desires" instead of fleeing for your life? Repent, or be lost!
  • A disciple on 2 Samuel 12 - 6 years ago
    When the subject of God's forgiveness of great sin comes up, with many people it is too big a stumbling-block, that defies all their sense of right and wrong. They can't understand that the greatness of the release comes out of the greatness of the Person who releases; and speaks of His love and compassion that overcomes His own deep hurts: and not without worthy repentance of the one who sinned.
  • Lu2677 on 2 Samuel 12 - 8 years ago
    I don't see where is says anything like what Gray Hachey claims (discussion for 2 Samuel 12) in 2 Samuel 12:23 or Matthew 1:1.
  • Forgiven on 2 Samuel 12 - 8 years ago
    I have been tempted by fleshly desire, I find strength in this passage. I don't want God to be displeased with me or the object of my desire. It's up to me to keep both of us in good graces with God
  • Evangelist Chatauna Robinson on 2 Samuel 12 - 9 years ago
    The other lesson here is that David tried to hide his sin from others. He committed adultery with Bathsheba. He tried to cover it up by insisting that Uriah the Hittite to go home to his wife. However, God did not allow Uriah to go home to go into his wife. The fruit of David 's sin was the baby she was carrying. He then had her husband killed. He thought he had gotten away with this deceit and murder. David also took advantage of his position as King to tread on others, but because God 's eyes is in every place beholding the evil and the good He sent a messenger to David to let him know I see you, I saw what you did. Then the punishment came. See people can lie, cover up, and pay to get out of their sins with man here on Earth, but with God there is no hiding place. He knows what you are doing even when others may not know.
  • OLLIE on 2 Samuel 12 - 10 years ago
  • Fern on 2 Samuel 12 - 10 years ago
    The bible says that David was a man after Gods own heart. Think about it! He killed Uriah he did not the God he serves sees everything and all a knowing God, God sent the prophet to him and after he told him the story, David said such man should die. Then prophet said you are the man. What this is saying to us is that when are messed up as children if God, don't we will ever get away, but the God we serve is willing to forgive us of our sins if we come boldly to the throne, he's a forgiven God we make mistakes, but we have an advocate what is done in darkness must come to light don't mess with God he'll expose us and that's what he did to David whom he loveth he chaseth.
  • Clint on 2 Samuel 12 - 10 years ago
    umberto, david brought 200 because he wanted to please saul above and beyond what saul asked because david felt unwortiy to be son in law to saul ! sadistic and cruel came from catholic church during crusades, it had nothing to do with christians or david ! get your facts correct umberto ! God would not call david a man after His own heart if david was sadistic and cruel !
  • Christian kene on 2 Samuel 12 - 10 years ago
    I love how david comforts his wife in verse 22

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