2 Peter Chapter 1 Discussion

  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    Maybe it is as you say Alex. I just couldn't read his post in that way, especially the bit about the ventriloquist. Maybe DWL could clarify in more detail the intent & meaning of his comment. I've read his many posts (mainly Scriptures shared), & found nothing wrong in his declarations.
  • Alex N - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    What DWL is impling is Jesus was just a man the son of God....But not God the Son....Not an ABSOLUTE SON, Not God the son....Satan is behind his post....If Jesus were not God the Son an absolute Son...Then his Blood cd not be the Atonement for the Sins of the world....They are very clever in their doctrine....These J.W. PPL.....They always start out their conversations with we believe that Jesus is the Son of God....But they donot beleive that Jesus was God the son....Then they make all kinds of derogatory remarks about his Deity....Satan knows that if he can destroy Jesus as God the son HIS DEITY ....Then his blood was only a mans blood having no Atonement Value.... Acts 20:28 Feed the Church of God that he has purchased with his own Blood...The blood of Jesus/God... Hebrews 1:8 But unto the SON he said thy throne O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER....Don't ever think that satan is not clever....When one implies that Jesus was not an Absolute son...Not God the Son then he is impling that God neva had an ABSOLUTE SON....How sick is that....I salute Adam's post to DWL.

    ......Mans blood cd not atone for the sins of the world....It had to be the very blood of God ( Jesus ) Acts 20:28 ...

    ......Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world....John the baptist
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    I feel that I should write something here. In spite how we may perceive your comment DWL, you've been on this Site long enough for me to believe that your comment was not to belittle Christ in any way but to state how some unbelievers might perceive this Divine Voice from Heaven. Just thought to throw that in - my view at least.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi DWL.

    When we think of any father and son relationship we only can relate to it as fleshly beings. And we're bound by certain laws such as physics, laws of reproduction "Male and female " ect..

    But God being a spirit and having no locality and no laws of any sort, who can understand?!! We only can take what the scripture says directly, God with us. Mathew 1:23.

    For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

    And Paul said who are thou Lord? "Only knowing of the Father" Notice the response.

    Acts 9:4-5. And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

    And he said, WHO ART THOU, LORD?.. "And the Lord said,".. I AM JESUS whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

    WHO art thou Lord?

    We know Paul wouldn't be intended to ask Jesus who art thou. His intentions was to address the Father. Jesus answered him according to that.. I AM JESUS WHOM THOU PERSECUTEST.
  • Adam - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    Let's see what else God's Word has to say in regards to your snarky comment against Jesus.

    A few verses before in 2 Peter 1:11 it says "Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." Do you believe Jesus is your Lord and Savior?

    Do you know what "Lord" means?

    The same old straw man fallacy shows up again that God the Son isn't God the Father, but no one is claiming that. This attack on Jesus is repeated so much it seems to fall into the disingenuous and lie territory.

    God is powerful enough to do what you don't comprehend as a man. Whether you comprehend that or not doesn't change reality or the truth. The Bible says that in John 1 the 'word was God' and was there at the beginning, so do you believe it?

    More of God's truth about God:

    Luke 4:34 - "Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God."

    Luke 4:12 after satan put Jesus to the test Jesus says "Do not put the Lord your God to the test."

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD..."

    Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name..."

    Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."


    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:29

    Romans 1:20

    John 1:18

    God is we and us plural:

    Genesis 1:26

    If the Bible flat out said Jesus is God like it does would you believe it?

    Where are the verses that say Jesus isn't God the Son? (none)

    Where are the verses saying Jesus IS God the Son (above, numerous)

    And where are the verses where Jesus verbally denied being God? (none)

    "I AM" John 8:56-59

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    Philippians 2:5-8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 2:22-24

    Matthew 1:23-25

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:29

    Romans 1:20

    Isaiah 7:14

    Hebrews 1:8

    Isaiah 44:6

    Isaiah 43:11

    John 17:5

    John 17:21
  • D W L on 2 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    2 Peter 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Was Jesus a ventriloquist or is he the Son of God? I'm convinced Jesus is the Son of God)
  • David on 2 Peter 1 - 1 year ago
    For our foundation is not from devised "fables" v16; but was made known through the power and coming of our LORD JESUS CHRIST as I learn to see HIM through the eyes of faith. For we have a more sure Word of prophecy because I know that v 20 "that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." For GOD gave it and it is profitable for any and all life issues, 2 Timothy 3: 16,17.

    Scripture as given by GOD, is different from any other writings by men. GOD does not hide the failures, and sinful nature of men. It is all recorded to show me that even in my short comings and failures, the LORD can and still is able and willing to use me provided I repent, and follow HIM in faith according to HIS direction in Scripture. The LORD gives the comfort and peace I need to continue on; He gives me the power and faith to desire HIS will in prayer, supplication. He allows me to help others in their walk with the LORD as we all strive to move forward be be fruitful in HIM.

    God bless everyone on this platform, and may HIS face shine brightly on all the saints as well as those that are still seeking. GOD bless our nation and our leaders to follow CHRIST JESUS in salvation.

    July 19, 2022
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Also; there will be a Millennial sort of tabernacle as all the O.T. festivals and feasts are symbolic of the future dwelling with men on earth. What a glorious day that will be; when each one can "sit under his own vine and fig tree" and enjoy the blessings of the restored earth; ruling and reigning with Christ!
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    The tabernacle; signifies the dwelling place. The Most High; in O.T. times; would be within the Ark of the Covenant; which would be in the inner court; surrounded by the outer court; and other areas further out including the areas of animal sacrifice. Hence; Christ went outside the gate after making the sacrifice for us. Sobering thought. It is important to see that the Lord would only dwell according to certain parameters as to the furniture (the shewbread being next to the ark; and carvings of Cherubim). Besides these guidelines; He chose who would be able to be in the inner court; the lineage of Levite priests; as well as the King who would build the tabernacle and when. The overall design in the inner sanctum was rather simple even in Solomon's temple despite the ornate design and complex manual for construction of the rest. God Himself warned Solomon; in fact not to hoard gold; silver; and horses or start being seduced by foreign gods (related to all the amorous behavior with foreign women). One of the earlier altars that David purchased after the plague hit was Ornan's threshingfloor in 1 Chronicles 21. This was done in ad-hoc fashion; as an immediate end to an ongloing plague by the angel had to be offset. Now; of course God's tabernacle dwells with men; as His Spirit has taken up residence in a Christian and among those gathered together in His name. This caused the death of Ananias and Sapphira much in the same way that those carrying the Ark were slain in the Old Testament when they erred in picking it up when it dropped. The Ark also blessed the residence where it sat after that event; and also caused plagues among those who took it (the Philistines). We should keep in mind the admonitions of the candlestick being removed in Revelation as well. He who destroys the temple God Himself will destroy. ( 1 Cor. 3:17). That could be viewed as self-destruction; or perhaps the effect of martyrdom although the soul would go on to be with the Lord.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Tabernacle also as per Old Testament: Exodus 25:8,9, Exodus 26, there is much detail in the Tabernacle GOD had Moses build in several more chapters following Exodus 25, 26, 27, 30

    Exodus 30:36, Exodus 33:7, Ezekiel 37:27,

    2Corinthians 5:1,4, Hebrews 8:1-13, - Hebrews 9:1-28,

    Interesting it also has been referred to as temporary, moveable, place of worship & to meet GOD.

    Hopefully this is also helpful
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Mary.

    Here is how you define Tabernacle in the Greek by strongs dictionary in

    2 Peter 1:14.


    Transliteration: sknma

    Pronunciation: skay'-no-mah

    Definition: From G4637; an encampment that is (figuratively) the Temple (as God s residence) the body (as a tenement for the soul): -

    It is basically our bodies referred to as a tent. temporary dwelling place for our soul and spirit.

    Here in 2 Corinthians 5:2. tabernacle is spelled different in the Greek and have a slightly different meaning.

    I have no idea of the significance of the difference.

    Maybe we can get some help.


    Transliteration: sknos

    Pronunciation: skay'-nos

    Definition: From G4633; a hut or temporary residence that is (figuratively) the human body (as the abode of the spirit): - .

    This old body will someday get an upgrade.

    Paul makes mention of that in Romans. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

    For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

    Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

    And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. Romans 8:19-23.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless
  • Mary Mcnamee on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    What is a tabernacle?
  • Dgjot - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    @Ronald Whittemore and Alex N - Thank You. I will meditate on what you said.

    @Gigi- Idol worship (like the way Catholics worship Mary and made Peter out to be the first Pope) to me is a worse sin than calling out someone for erring. And, aren't you passing judgement on me for pointing out Peter's mistakes?
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago

    I have read your posts and if I may point out a few things you may look at about Peter. I agree by using Matthew 16:18 making Peter what the Catholic Church is built on is misplaced because Jesus is the corner stone which the foundation is laid and if we look in Revelation 21:14 there twelve.

    You may think of Peter being cowardly for denying Jesus but remember he was the one who cut off the ear of that guy when they came to arrest Jesus, and Peter was the only one who followed them to where they took Jesus. Did Peter repent, it is not written the words he said but it does tell us he went out, and wept bitterly, Matthew 26:75. Also Jesus made him say he loved Him three times, John 21:15-17.

    There is one thing to keep in mind, even though Jesus told them several times, Jesus being arrested, crucified, buried, and resurrected was hidden from them. Luke 18:32-34. Then Jesus told them when He met and ate with them and opened their eyes where they would understand, Luke 24:44-47. In Matthew 16:22 Peter thinking Jesus was going to set up the kingdom there was no way he was going to be killed and the purpose of His death was hidden from them and Satan.

    All during the time they were with Jesus they thought He was going to set up the kingdom then. They even asked Him before He ascended, Acts 1:6 and I am sure Peter and the others were confused thinking Jesus was going to set up the kingdom but here He is arrested and possibly going to be killed.

    The reason you see a difference in Paul, Peter and the other 11 were told to only go to the lost sheep of Israel, Jerusalem first, to the Jews first, this is why the early battles about the Gentiles not having to be circumcised and obey the law. Acts 15, Peter had his dream in Acts 11. It was a learning curve for them that it took some time, but it is part of fulfilling prophecy.

    If you considered this already, please disregard just thought it would help.

    God bless,

  • Bro dan - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Sister GiGi,

    Amen. You are correct, Peter was human like all of us, and Jesus must have seen alot in Peter, as Jesus built his Church on Apostle Peter, (The Rock) and gives him "the keys to the kindom of Heaven" this scripture says it all!

    Matthew 16:15-19

    15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    God Bless.
  • Alex N - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Dgjot....You are right on even Jesus himself had to rebuke Peter for telling him he did not need to go to Jerusalem and die for the sins of the world..And our Lord rebuked Peter telling him he did not understand the things of God but the things of man.....Jesus rebuked Peter calling Satan....But we all like Peter need to be rebuked sometimes....just saying. you are just telling it as it is The truth...GBU.... Mat. 16 : 23
  • Gigi - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Oops meant Dgjot

    Not Dakota

    Phone keeps thinking for me
  • Gigi again - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago

    I believe you are sinning by speaking falsely against Peter.
  • Dgjot - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Defame? He defamed himself. Of course Jesus loves him and forgave him but just maybe, he was chosen to be an example of the things we are NOT supposed to do. Peter only wrote 2 books. Paul wrote most of them.
  • Dgjot - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    @ Alex N: Thank You. It seems like the more I read the Scriptures the deeper they get. Nothing is as it seems.
  • Alex N - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Dgjot i hear ya,,,,good post...God bless ya....Peter was indeed a great man of God,...But he made some mistakes....like we all do at times.
  • Gigi - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago

    Jesus close Peter as well as Paul (and all of the apostles) to share the gospel with the world. Jesus is more than able to equip those He calls with faith and knowledge to accomplish what He determined for them to do.

    Peter was not faithless as you said. He erred and Paul pointed it out to him. Peter repented. Paul sinned as well. He was not perfect.

    If you read in 1 Corinthians 1 you will find that Paul speaks against following himself, Apollos, Cephas (Peter) as the Corinthian Christians were puffed up by declaring whom baptized them and whom they follow. Paul rebuked these believers and spoke against following anyone but Jesus.

    Paul was a great man and gave his life to spreading the gospel eventually being matured in Rome. The same is true of Peter. I think we should hold these men ( and all of the apostles) in honor and not defame them, as you have done to Peter.
  • Dgjot - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Galatians 2:11 (Paul speaking)

    But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

    Galatians 2:14 (Paul speaking)

    But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

    God chose Peter to preach the gospel to the Jews. God chose Paul to preach the gospel to the Gentiles.

    Peter had an advantage Paul did not, in that he walked with Jesus every day, heard His words and witnessed His miracles. And yet he still didn't understand that Jesus is God in the flesh and denied Jesus 3x and even went so far to preach to the unsaved that circumcision (old testament law) is a must to be saved. Paul called him out.

    Saul, an accomplice to the murder of the believers of Christ, was knocked off his horse on the Damascus Road when Jesus appeared to him and spoke to him. When Jesus told him what he must do, did he argue? Nope. He simply did what he was told to do, without whining. Paul was a Jew of the tribe of Benjamin and also a Roman citizen so he knew both the Torah and Roman law and spoke several languages.

    Peter was a simple fisherman and faithless- even after all he saw and heard from Jesus. Is this really the kind of guy you want to listen to? Catholics claim that Peter was the first Pope. What nonsense.

    Of course both were forgiven. Al repentant sinners are forgiven. But if I have to choose between the writings of Peter or Paul, I'll go with Paul. Paul wrote most of what became the New Testament.

    I know we're not supposed to pass judgement on anyone. Even Angels know better than to bring a railing accusation against even the wicked. Just be careful of who or what you listen to.
  • Gigi - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Dear Dgjot

    I believe that all of the apostles were saved and forgiven, Paul and Peter included. And I believe that all of the apostles were commissioned by Jesus to bring the gospel message to the world. Therefore, I believe that Jesus prepared and the Spirit empowered all if the apostles to rightly discharge their calling. So, no, Peter was not copying Paul. He was writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit just as Paul did.

    Because of this, their writings may have similar themes or tones because they wrote what God wanted written.

    We need to forgive Peter just as we forgive Paul. They were sinners like you, me, and all humanity.

    We should hold these apostles with respect for the position God placed them in at a most crucial time in redemptive history. Both Peter and Paul were martyred in Rome. All of the other apostles were martyred, except for John(he died of old age). Many Christians were martyred in those early centuries. They were convinced of their faith in Christ, loved the Lord, and lived knowing that they maybe persecuted or martyred at anytime. We don't live under those conditions today in America. So, we should be humble when we speak

    Of these apostles and disciples of early Christianity.
  • Dgjot on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Did Peter, in his letters, ever confess that he denied Jesus 3x??

    Even though I know the things he writes about are real and true, it does seem hypocritical.

    To me it looks like he's imitating Pauls style of writings.
  • Tim legarie on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    God bless and watch over everyone. Do not argue with someone about religion,they might loose! Show them your love.Faith,Hope,Charity.LORD do not let anyone take that from me.In Jesus name amen.
  • Rosaline - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Thank you Spencer.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Rosaline.

    Note there's 2 parts to this verse,

    ( a day is with the Lord as a thousand years, AND A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY.

    This verse speaks of his patience, There's no time at all with him.

    Read vs 3 on down to vs 10 to get the context.

    2 Peter 3:8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    God bless.
  • Rosaline on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Where do I find the scripture that has to do with "a thousand years is as a day to the Lord"?
  • Lyop gala thompson on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Talebearers If you give them attention they will ruin you leaving you with a scar that if proper restitution is not made, the scar lasts for ever. Beware of them. They initiate matters: yet they don't relent taking your word to another person.

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