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  • Mishael on earth destruction and restoration
    I stayed up most of last night, being led through BIBLE SCRIPTURES, that back up what the teacher is teaching. It is painstakingly slow, And biblically SOUND.

    I would not have even listened to it if it didn't have scriptural foundation. The teacher uses the Hebrew to explain the events that happened. I do not know why I had NEVER heard this expanded teaching before, at church, but I have now. I still have 3 hours to listen to!

    Here are some scripture passages you'll want to mark for that study. At one point I just began to write all over the page margins :/

    This may interest you to listen to it on YouTube later.

    Genesis 1, Job 1:8, restoration of earth in Genesis,

    Jeremiah 4;23-28

    Jeremiah 4:26 Gods anger

    Isaiah 24:1 Is pre-Adam; God turned earth upside down,

    Job 9:1-9 earth frozen ball of ice

    Revelation ch 6

    Job 38. Science has proved the Bible is accurate;

    Deu. 32:4 Gods work is perfect

    Isaiah 45:18

    Eccl. 3:11

    Psalms 18:30

    Genesis verses 6-9 restoration not creation

    Genesis 1-2 earth not 6 thousand years old; it's billions, what science proved.

    I had all the prophetic scriptures boxed; I just didn't know how the fit in. When it says former inhabitants and people's, those are the 1/3 angels that followed Lucifer.

    Isaiah 14:17 20 spoken by demons to Lucifer

    Satan was in hell when Adam was created. He was turned into a snake. Was in the garden Ezekiel 28:13

    Ezekiel 28: 1-19 Lucifer>Satan

    Lucifer went from Archangel/ covering Cherub. God>Holy Spirit>Jesus>Lucifer

    4th in line to the throne. Isaiah 14:12

    YouTube. WAR IN THE HEAVENLIES, by Benny Hinn. 5 hour teaching

    Why do we need to put this together so we can understand it?? Because people ask questions. And..,it's very important to Satan. We need to know HOW he came to be loose on the earth; after Adam and after Jesus'S death on the Cross.

    For myself and you, we have a responsibility to piece this together as it really happened.
  • Maxine
    where in the Bible does it say that in the end days "Good shall be seen as bad and bad as good"
  • Bob Hilt
    Maxine I believe this is what you are referring to: Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
  • KJV Soldier
    Well it doesn't actually say that particularly but in 2 Tim 3:1-5 tells us that "...in the last days perilous times shall come." And people will be doing wrong as if it were a good thing. So hopefully that helps you some.
  • Chris
    Maxine, I can't think of any verse to show this phrase applying to the latter days that you mention. However, you may be familiar with the OT verses that speak of this: Isaiah 5:20, Proverbs 17:15.
  • Pray 4 the Holy Ghost
    Because the Bible has no contradictions, it must be accepted in its entirety. Problems arise when people begin to inject their "knowledge" and "beliefs" into Church doctrine. For instance, I have read people saying that Timothy's position was based on how women were treated at the time. "Why, that is down-right sexist!" you might say. And you may be right. But the truth be told, your position is irrelevant and something you could correct God on when you see Him.

    There is also another argument I have heard. And that is "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." - 1 Corinthians 12:23. That verse is used to justify equality between men and women and therefore allowing women to preach. If one truly has the Spirit, one would understand the relationship between men and women and inherently know that they are not called upon to teach in church.
  • Mishael on lady preachers
    I've done street ministry with women and men. Sometimes the women want a female street minister to talk to or be ministered to.

    As I am fond of saying: God will use a donkey to speak if there is no one else to speak for Him.

    There's this lady I met at church who has a real prophetic gift. Iverna Tompkins. You should have a listen on YouTube. I'm afraid she's passed on, but wow can she preach.
  • Pray 4 the Holy Ghost
    Let us pray that the Holy Ghost gives us wisdom to address the issue of women preachers and keeping silent. God himself set the relationship model in Genesis 3:16 when unto the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." When would you then think that He would then allow women to preach to men? When Jesus chose the 12 Apostles, how many were women? Timothy, when laying out the structure of the Church was quite clear in the leadership roles. 3:1 - This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop. Likewise, in 3:12 " Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife". Timothy then expounds on these concepts by describing the personality characteristics of men and women in which he clearly identifies the role of each. Finally, Timothy writes in 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?). Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12 talks about the diversity of gifts. He specifically mentions men. He concludes in 12:28 that God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. No where does Paul mention women. He does mention women in Titus 2:3/4 - The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children.
  • Patty Tozi
    Have you ever asked yourself what Life is suppose to be about? Do you show Love to orhers? Your Father in Heaven sacrificed His Son to Suffer for our Sins on this Earth- so at the ending of our Life we will be able to come straight to the Throne! Works- Prayer- Faith- and much Love everywhere you go. That shows Jesus's Love and Compassion- Given by His Father because of His Love for You!! LOVE!!
  • Patty Tozi
    Are you improving your life or disgrading your life? God wants the Best for You! Are you honoring His Will? Don't feel sorry for yourself- go and take a challenge that you can control and do!! Watch God's Light give you the Strength to go into the unknown- you never believed you could do. Don't let yourself down. Achieve it! Watch the effect of it on your mind and body. Than go again. Success!!!
  • Patty Tozi
    When things look the lowest- change opposite what would help you with strength- for doing God's Will. Go after now! Don't go lower- than you are stepping in Satan's world. Ask God for guideness toward what He wants in your Life. Fight to regain it! God is right next to you: all you do is change one thing and start climbing that mountain! Challenge yourself- be proud you are chosen by your Father!!
  • Patty Tozi
    Some days l awake and wonder what this day will bring. I slow down to moving like a snail. Trying to put my day together l forget there is a God l should go to each morning when l rise- and Thank Him first. Than ask Him to Guide me through out my day. There l feel His Strength go thru me and my mind starts gathering up speed to move me. Knowing the Light is around me- l search for the needy:
  • Patty Tozi
    Does anyone see changes coming fast in this world now? Stores going crazy with building up all of a sudden. No matter where you go they are building and changing. In the Bible it reads how cold hearted everyone will be. How powerful stores, churches, and restaurants, are to get. What happened to yester year? Can never go back. God is warning His people. Every where you go now-' Keep God Close!
  • Patty Tozi
    Life is so Short. Do others see how Special Life is. That you are here right now- but in a twinkle of an eye could be taken away. Everyday is Precious that you can go to and fro doing your daily chores. Do you ever just stop and look around? Just watch others that God created as you. I do! I get lost in time just watching how others live- as l do. Than l Thank my Heavenly Father for that moment!!
    I love you and shared some of these inspirations on fb with your name on them . to help some one that may need to read them. some of them helped me. and made me think
  • Patty Tozi
    This World belongs to our Father in Heaven. He created it from the start-- Satan took it away from What He wanted it to be. Oh, why can't others see. Some do- but do not know they can fight in God's Light and turn it the opposite of the World's way of thinking.God is our Rock! He Loves us enough that His Only Begotten Son suffered so we could come to His Father in the ending of our Life. SO FIGHT!
  • Patty Tozi
    I woke up this cold morning thanking God- for when l rise l have another day to do His Will. Challenges- l will give myself to others less fortunate. Our Heavenly Father watches over us as we do His Works unto His creations. By Faith and Strength He will challenge us to see if we are capable to handle His Will- as His Son Jesus did for us. The World's Ways no more!! Only God will lead me today!!
  • Patty Tozi
    My writings are inspirations from the Lord- what He had me go through in all my Life. Always alone- l fought for the answers- Why? Now in the days we are in- l know. I have to let others see the wisdom and knowledge l have from those times- is not from the Evilness of the world- but from the Holy Light of His Love for us. Fighting for our Salvation in the Ending of Times. He is all Mighty God!!!
  • Patty Tozi
    To help others before yourself is a great gift from God to understand Him. Helps are giving yourself as Jesus did for us. Challenging yourself for anything God puts in front of you. Getting out of your rot of self and complaining.Sound familiar? Well- do something about it this holiday season. Open your eyes and Love God for for putting you into a situation you had to use God's Love! Understand!
  • Patty Tozi
    God is close to us now.Time on this earth is going too fast. People building- running to and fro. Not stopping to see what is around. Seems to me the evilness has everyone where he wants them. But wait- God's people are being called to fight the evilness in our Heavenly Father's Name. We are the Light shining from Him. Do not forget what He has done for us. Lets go out- for others- not Self!!
  • Freedomborn in God's Truth..
    True Ruben Woman can Teach Children and Woman Titus 4:3-5 share God's Truth with Men Deb4 to 5 and Correct error with His Truth But we are not to be in Authority over Men in Church and Speak meaning Teach or Preach1Cor14:34-37 -1 Timothy 2:11-12 Husbands have Authority in Marriage Colossians 3:18-19 if asked to do something wrong we don't Our Husbands are to Love us as Christ Loves His Church Ephesians 5:22-28 - Annie.
  • Freedomborn in God's Truth
    True Ruben Woman can Teach Children and Woman Titus 4:3-5 share God's Truth with Men Deb4 to 5 Correct error with God's Truth but we are not to be in Authority over Men in Church and Speak meaning Teach or Preach1Cor14:34-37 -61 Timothy 2:11-12 Husbands have Authority in Marriage Colossians 3:18-19 if asked to do something wrong we don't Our Husbands are to Love us as Christ Loves His Church Ephesians 5:22-28 - Annie.
  • Patty Tozi
    God gave me insight from all trials l went through- to show me His Love and compassion He has for us. It is such a Loving Touching Love it is very overwhelming. But when l walked away from the world's ways and tried to feel others hearts as l felt God's- I hit rock bottom. I can look into a persons eyes to their heart. Love seems to be an earthly emotion. Not deep down- lefting you in spirit!
  • Patty Tozi
    I coment because of all the harsh trials l have been in- and won the victory of our Heavenly God. Now with my Ministry- l want to help everyone know there is a God. He is our Creator. He started us- and in Revelations will end His creations. We that know Him will be called out to Fight for others that do not know Him. So anyone that wants to know God- read what we write. THERE IS A MIGHTY GOD!!
  • Patty Tozi
    What is this world coming too? Evilness all around. How do you protect yourself? The Almighty God !! His Light of Strength is so close now!! Ask for HIs Strength- Love- Care where ever you walk Or drive today. Keep His Light over you. The Holy spirit intune with you! Day to Day always walk that way. Sure as a mountain. Unmoveable no matter what comes your way! Know God is in control in you!!
  • Patty Tozi
    For today is never promised. Challenges come out of the blue. Faith in your Holy God that gives you your strength to fight against the evilness of this world- is never far from you. His Light surrounds you with his Protection. Oh Mighty God- that can move all the mountains- is by your side. Unknown territories face you- but the strength of God leads you safely through it. Blessed Be the Lord!
  • Patty Tozi
    The days seem to stand still to me-Yet goes so fast. The World is slowly getting ready for our Lord. The Evilness so close now. People Beware!! Keep your Father in Heaven close. Don't let the enemy see you sweat. Get on your knees- for His Strength you need. God's Light surrounds you. Do not ever forget that!! Remember Jesus as He walked this Earth. You are one with Him. So walk STRONG!!
  • Shane
    you are not alone in observing how the days are ripping by.... jesus said less those days had not been shorten No flesh would be saved.... I wondered how that would come about myself, and i believe the faster the time goes by the faster we are getting to the Day Of The LORD.... so yeah, days have been shortened... Be Well
  • Meme
    How you know you weren't there. Come on!
  • Patty Tozi
    With the holiday season coming so fast- as we run doing the worlds way of the holidays. Do you ever think or see the forgotten around you? I do! I help when God leads me too- no matter when. My God is my Strength..so l always show His Love that way. As Jesus did when He got overwhelmed - l go to my God for Strength- to fight the evilness that tries to stop me from doing what Jesus would of done!!

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