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  • Richard
    If Paul received mercy in verse 13 because he was ignorant, does that mean to [sin willfully] like it says in Hebrews then mean you have no hope?
  • Chris
    Richard, I believe that I wrote to you a few moments ago in a similar vein, but to respond to your question here.

    It is true that Paul (then Saul, the Jew, the Pharisee), did commit those heinous crimes of blasphemy, persecution of Christians, & murder. Yet when he turned to the Lord, He found God's Mercy upon him. And we know this was a fact because of his encounter with the Living Christ on Damascus Road & the commission given to him to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles & others.

    Then to apply Hebrews 10:26 in the same way would be wrong as we would have to ask, "is it possible for a believer to commit such sins as Saul, the unbeliever, did?" If you feel, "Yes", then I would say that there is no room for repentance & forgiveness. Rather, I believe (& I feel you would agree also) that a Christian cannot sin in that way. And I would add that a true believer cannot live a life of any type of sin: if the Spirit is present, there would be very clear checks about the matter & pleadings towards repentance & restoration. If the Spirit is not in residence, there would be no conviction, indeed, without the Spirit of God, we are not even Christians.

    But as I mentioned in my other comment to you on the Hebrew passages: they referenced particularly to the sins of apostasy, when the Jews who had turned to Christ, or those fake 'believers' who shared in the blessings, then turned against Christ & His Gospel to return back to Judaism & the Law, which only led to death. To these, there would be no more place for repentance.

    So none of these apply to you: you are saved, you have not committed the sins of Saul, & you have not apostatized. And I don't believe you are in a lifestyle of sin, according the pain in your heart about this matter. You need the assurance from the Word & the Spirit that you are a child of the King & nothing will annul that holy relationship. Keep storing God's Word in your heart & look for that confirmation in your spirit.
  • Hubert clinton bradford
    how many wifes can you have with GOD s law? How do Mormans see it in BIBLE
  • Chris
    This question comes with different answers, depending on the era one lived in. We know from the Bible, that some men of OT days had multiple wives (e.g. Esau, Abraham, Jacob, Elkanah, Moses, David, Solomon). Then there was the Levirate marriage, when it was encumbent on the man to marry his brother's widow (Deuteronomy 25:5-10). As well, often kings took on several wives to secure a stronger relationship with the other ally or nation.

    But in NT times, this was frowned upon though still practised to some extent. However, with the Gospel & apostolic teaching, only a monogamous relationship was taught (1 Corinthians 7; 1 Timothy 3:2,12; Titus 1:6) as the union of man & woman in marriage & it consummation meant they became "one flesh" & could only separate or be dissolved because of the death of one or because of fornication.

    Mormons have always promoted monogamy: their book of Jacob even condemns David & Solomon for their polygamy. But there were exceptions to this, so they rely on their scripture in Jacob 2:30, which indicates that if God desires, then He will command His people to raise up seed for Him. So, this is seen by the Mormons as a licence to have multiple wives (though I'm unsure how they discern that it is God that requires some to raise more 'seed' for Him, & whether multiplicity of wives is the way to do it, or should one wife bear more children). So the Mormons also have to use the Book of Mormon to justify their actions in this regard & many other things (e.g. the relationship of Jesus to Satan).
  • Darryl
    What does Paul mean in versus 20 of 1 Timothy ?
  • Jesse
    He points out two people that are in the church at Ephesus who were giving Timothy a bad time.

    Later in 2 Timothy, we'll find out that they didn't believe in the resurrection of Christ. And they brought other heretical teachings into the church.

    And Paul will say later the names of people that were sinning in the church, that it might be an example to them.

    Yes, you have to love. But you have to be concerned about the rest of the body of Christ and warn them that it's not according to scripture.

    He says these two, Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan,

    He also did that back in 1 Corinthians Chapter 5 Verse 5 for the man who wouldn't repent in the church in Corinth. He says deliver him over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that his soul might be saved in the day of the Lord.

    He says whom I have delivered to Satan, in order that they may learn not to blaspheme.
  • Chris
    We see in 1 Tim 1:20, Paul chiding Hymenaeus & Alexander for having (in some manner of blaspheming) made shipwreck of their faith. We're not told exactly what they did, but was certainly grievously wrong, causing Paul to put them out of the Church (deliver them to the world of Satan). Paul, as an apostle, could well take such action as He preached the Truths of God's Word & from Christ. Sadly, our Churches still entertain those that have swerved greatly from the Truth & so keep their congregation in the dark, believing lies.
  • Mishael on 1 Timothy 119-20
    Verse 29-20: these men did not merely wander from the faith. They made a purposeful choice to reject a clear conscience, and the result was a destruction of their spiritual lives. Their faith was shipwrecked. They were teaching that the resurrection of the dead had already happened, which was untrue.

    Hymenaeus is also mentioned in 2 Timothy 2:16-18: "But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, and their talk will spread like canker. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus.

    You were right to ask about this. Whatever is taught in church needs to be investigated by you in your Bible.
  • Seventh day is sabbath for verse 10
    Acts 5:29 We ought to obey God rather than men
  • Marjorie Koenig for verse 10
    Where does the Bible say to obey God's laws over mans'? Thank you.
  • Freedomborn in Unity
    Dear Daughter of God John 1:1-4 - Rev19:13 confirms that Jesus is The Living Word and yes part of The Godhead or The Trinity both meaning 3 in One Spirit but Thy have differant Roles and are confirmed in 1John 5:7 and other Scriptures but some modern Translations like the Cults ones have deleted this or changed other Scriptures. God showed me their deception and I now use the KJV Blessings -Anne
  • Fred scanlan
    It is beyond comprehension, to think that this spiritual war continues and will continue as long as our God allows it. It is His desire that all would be saved. I think back on the V.Nam war and the generation of men and woman who died for the love of a people suppressed by an evil govt. No matter what you hear. Even in this time we are being attacked, without the wisdom and love of our brothers who have already died, Satan,the enemy , can easily be overcome Only if man would confess sins , and rely on the captain of our salvation, our lord and savior ,Christ Jesus. At no other time, do we need some good leaders in the church! Unity under one gospel, letting the Holy Spirit do its work..
  • Mickey
    Be careful. We are living in times when our "faith in our leaders/candidates " is being violated. A leader will arise on the scene who will fix a lot of problems and bring peace to our present chaos. Stop looking around at each other and keep your eyes glued to Jesus. Pray to receive the BAPTISM of the Holy Spirit. Jesus sent everyone to the Upper Room On Pentecost to wait for the Holy Spirit.
    We're not going to make it if we just sit around and split hairs over scripture. Do a study on how ancient Israelis perform in
    war. Look how God weeded out Gideons group. Fighting SPIRITUAL war is the same and different. Get some blood in your eye, get in an intercession prayer group of 2 or 3.
  • Fred scanlan
    We live under the new covenant!Those who believe and have received already the holy spirit are His church who waits for his coming. No one knows that day, not the son,only the Father. Let this mind be in you then that is in Christ, who thought it not robbery to be equal with God. We war not against flesh and blood but spiritual darkness. This wisdom comes from above not beneath. If you are not led by the light of Gods word, than you still live in darkness. We are not justified by the works but by the faith in the of the Son of God. The blood We receive is the communion of his body and blood. Their is no salvation in any other. This would be a good time to read the scripture.
  • Fred scanlan
    Jesus says in the last days he will pour out his spirit. Without knowing or reading other words, its hard to know if what others are reading are the same words in kjv. know ng that the power of the spirit must have free course ,and relies on Jesus word to do it. The kjv ,is this translation . The power of the holy spirit, will move people like no other power. It is powerful, like the sword . Discipline, patience, love for God. We are at war with a divine being, Christ is our captain! It is evident that other words cause confusion. Paul speaks plainly when he says any other doctrine be accursed. That was the first thing Christ dealt with ,when e delivered evil spirits in the synagogue.
  • Joe
    Very well said - 1 spirit 3 roles
  • Larry McGinley
    Very Good AND Important Book in the Bible.May God Never let us Forget it!
  • Christian
    Paul being anointed and called by God, suffered for the gospel, what have you done in comparison. Judge not others, lest you are judged by the same measure.
  • Catherine Hazur
    For what you are seeking, use a Concordance
  • Foxy what does it have to do with this
    that is Christ alone take us home . by the cross he came to safe sinner . the blood he shed for us. to come to he is our hope to get god
  • TruthfromtheBook.com
    @Daughter of God. See 1 John 3:16 (which says God laid down His life = Jesus did, so Jesus is God)
  • Daughter of God
    Seeking sources to prove to individuals that:
    1. Being questioned if Jesus Christ son of God is God - part of the God Head - Trinity. Where to find scriptures to respond.
  • D W L
    1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus Matthew 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. Read the Bible for yourself Matthew, Mark, Luke, John is good for new converts to learn. The law and prophets were until John since then its the gospel of Jesus Christ.
  • Jonas
    Forgetting the weightier matter is forgetting the purpose why the scriptures are written: good for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good works! Hence, the warfare!
  • Jonas
    Why are people forgetting the weightier matter of paul's instruction on the Spiritual Warfare? The War according to the prophecy (the sure prophecy).
    Is it because God they say Loves all and that salvation is by grace and not of works?
    Where will change come in together with the melting of the elements and the love not the World and the ye are not of the world and the gospel of suffering? THINK
  • A disciple
    "..that you might charge some that they teach NO OTHER DOCTRINE...which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith..." This commandment is especially concerning false teaching brought in by stealth among the assemblies of Believers. We have to match doctrine with the nature and Spirit of God according to ALL His Word; and not be drawn away and deviate from what Christ taught.
  • A disciple
    "..that you might charge some that they teach NO OTHER DOCTRINE, NEITHER GIVE HEED TO FABLES (myths) and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do." A myth is a well-known story which was made up in the past to explain natural events or to justify religious beliefs or social customs. Jesus Christ is the ONLY SAVIOUR, and no one else instead!
  • A disciple
    Timothy and Titus were the first ordained overseers of the Assemblies in Ephesus and Crete. The Epistles are obviously Guidance for the Overseership, but ought also to be understood as for ALL Disciples. Jesus doesn't command one set of standards for one, and another for another; but as He Himself said; "But I am among you as one that serves;" so, it is the Common Faith that we are to strive for.
  • Eutychus
    1st, 2nd Timothy, and Titus are popularly called, "The Pastoral Epistles". They aren't...They are letters to apostolic deputies, given specific tasks in particular churches, then to move on, carrying out Paul's vision. Timothy and Titus both are admonished to ordain elders and deacons in the churches they helped establish. Both were members of what should be called, the "work", of the ministry.

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