1 Thessalonians Chapter 1 Discussion

  • GiGi - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Dear Robert, I will pray for you today.

    Dear Heavenly Father, we come to You in the name of Jesus today and ask that You will bring Robert through this surgery with success and a full recovery. We as that You keep Robert safe and sound during and after this surgery without complications or any downturns in his recovery. We ask You Father, to relieve any pain Robert has post-surgery and that the problem that led to needing surgery is completely resolved. Amen.
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on 1 Thessalonians 1
    For the truth sake which dwelleth in us for ever Grace be with me Marcy and peace from God the father and from the LORD Jesus Christ the son of the father in truth and love l rejoiced greatly that I found of the children walking in truth as we have received a commandment from the father
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on 1 Thessalonians 1
    And this is love that i walk after this commandment this is the commandment that as ye have heard from the beginning ye should walk in it for many deceivers one entered into the warld who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh this is a deceiver and an antichrist looks to your selves that we lose not those things which we have wrought but that we receive a full reward
  • Ronnie - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Andy that word rapture that you are the using. I haven't found that word in the Bible. Please help
  • Andy - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    The physical body is here until the rapture (after death). The Spirit of the born again are with Christ. I'm not sure why some seek to complication this simple Biblical truth.
  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    You will not find it in the Word of God, because at the last trump sound, the dead in Christ shall rise first. Now if Christians went to heaven when they die then it would not be any to "RISE". Another little point: why would God take you on to heaven just to pull you back out again on judgement day? The KJV states that everyone will be judged according to their works whether good or bad. Always take the Word of God over any man or women out here. If it's not in his Word, then it's not true! You have a blessed day.
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    The Bible doesn't say that.
  • Jesse - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1

    I agree with your pastor. At the point of our physical death (And by the way, the word death means separation), but at the point of physical death, our physical body will be buried in the ground and will await the resurrection, and that's when our spirit will reunite with our risen body that has been changed from a corruptible body to an incorruptible glorified body.

    Again, the word death means separation. When we die (physically), our spirit will depart our body to go to be immediately with the Lord. The word sleep or sleeping in the bible refers to physical death (See the story of Lazarus). When our body dies and is lying in the grave, and if you ever been to a funeral viewing, the dead body that is lying in the coffin looks like it is sleeping. But the spirit of that person is very much alive.

    Ask yourself, where is their spirit? If their spirit has separated their body, where did their spirit go. If that person has the Spirit of Christ in them, where is Christ's Spirit right now? Definitely not in the grave!

    Again, I believe your pastor is correct in his teaching about this part. I cannot speak to everything else he teaches, as I do not know your pastor. However, if you believe you are being misled by your pastor, or that he is spreading false teaching, I would encourage you to seek another church.
  • Rev. Preston - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    2 Cor. 5, 1-8
  • Where does Our Spirit go__upon death - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Acts 7:59

    And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

    Acts 8:2

    And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.

    Luke 23:46

    And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my SPIRIT: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

    Mishael: these are other scriptures that show awareness of the spirit in Jesus, and those that are born again.

    The fleshly body Sleeps, wherever it fell dead, or was buried. The born again to heaven someday.

    The unsaved, wicked dead to judgement one day.

    When you Google this, be sure you are not on a Catholic doctrine website. The King James Bible which was canonized is the standard for being born again. See the Book of John. I write this in love and concern for all of Gods people.
  • John Feltrop - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Hi Naomi,

    There was just a discussion related to this:


    I'm sure there's been many others in the past too if you do an advanced search for it.

    The Bible says when we die we will enter a state to await Jesus's return then will face judgment all together. It's called judgment day. Matthew 12:36, Hebrews 9:27. There's no verse saying you get to skip this, and nothing saying you go to heaven then go back to earth into your body, only to go back to judgment after you've already been in heaven.

    Daniel 12:2

    Job 14:12

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

    1 Corinthians 15:18-20

    Matthew 9:24

    Those who believe in instant heaven involves misinterpreting 2 key verses: 1. Misquoting Paul when he said he'd "rather" be in heaven (those sleeping in the grave haven't necessarily departed from their old bodies yet anyway), 2. Thief on cross when Jesus said that day he'd be in "paradise". Most ignore all the other verses above saying we will await Jesus's return, then have a day of judgment. God bless.
  • Naomi Carter on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Our pastor states at every funeral that when we die we are instantly in Heaven if we are saved. I can not find this in the Bible. My Bible reads that the dead are sleeping and will raise again when Jesus comes back for his own. Where can I find that we are instantly in Heaven when we draw our last breath.
  • Mary Griffin on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Yes I do!!!!!
  • Cowboy - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Anthony in the beginning there was no evil until the woman picked the forbidden fruit off of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Satan was in the world but had no power in the garden so Satan had to cause one of the creations to brake the command of God but eating the forbidden fruit. So, Satan used the serpent to talk to the woman, I say woman because she did not have a name except woman in the garden. In the garden all animals ate grass and talked to Adam it was a perfect place. God Bless stay prayed up and ready to go up Cowboy
  • Dianne - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Sir what specific evil are you discussing.
  • THINGS GOD HATES - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Proverbs Chapter 6

    16 These six things doth the LORD HATE: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

    17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

    18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

    19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the LORD is to HATE evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

    Proverbs 11:2 - When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

    Proverbs 16:5 - Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

    Proverbs 16:18 - Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

    Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

    Proverbs 27:2 - Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

    Proverbs 29:23 - A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

    Jeremiah 9:23 - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:

    Romans 12:16 - Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

    Galatians 6:3 - For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

    Philippians 2:3 - Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

    James 4:6 - But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

    1 John 2:16 - For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the PRIDE of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (Satan)
  • Anthony Alves on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Where did evil come from?
  • Bernhard Hol on 1 Thessalonians 1
    1. Pelo que, Nao podendo mais suportar o cuicado por vos achamos por bem ficar sozinhos em Atenas,


    1. Therefore, we can no longer bear the support for we think you are well alone in Athens,

    Its ove Papa..
  • Forgiveness for every sin of the ten commandments - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    Yes He will forgive you. We need to come to God and ask Him for forgiveness and restoration.

    Pencil these scriptures on the back page of your Bible. 1 John 1:9 and Hebrews 8:12. God cannot lie.

    Part of turning from our sins, is following Jesus, every day until He returns to earth to catch us up to him.

    The baby is alive in heaven with God. He said, "All souls are Mine". Keep a bookmark in the Book of John chapter 3.

    May God our Father comfort you in this time.

  • SALLIE FRANCIS - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    So do god forgive you for having an abortion?
  • Bob e scholebo on 1 Thessalonians 1
    i like the scriptures
  • Jesus is the body of all and christ is the wisdon righteousness

    sanctification and tedemption.

    first then second

    old fulfilled then new

    married through the knowing

    testiment made one book

    the son of god is not seperated in sin cause the end of sin is crucified. victory with life called god.

    this understanding is eternal life of god.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    That is true, that God knows each one of us before we were born & also before the thoughts or plans of our parents to conceive. That's why it becomes such a great tragedy when a life is lost in the womb, especially so if it is aborted. God even knew this would happen & the life that was to be a privilege & blessing to the couple had to be returned to the One Who gave it.

    But an embryo is unaware of anything else apart from any activity within its tiny frame to survive. Unlike the belief by some religions, the Bible doesn't show that we had any existence prior to our conception & birth & therefore there should be no reason to believe that an unborn child has any other past or any recollections of it or of God. Just my opinion.
  • You were seen in your mothers womb - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    God chooses us. He sees us in the womb.

    Sometimes he calls prophets from the womb. Isaiah and Jeremiah were. David was a King of Israel. John the Baptist is the fulfillment of the prophesy of "a voice crying in the wilderness."

    He has a purpose for all of His children. We need to ask Him what that is :)

    I was aware of Someone who felt to me like a companion when I was very young; 4 yrs. I was "saved" from accidents or illness, many times. I strayed as a young adult, but when it was time; I was was saved.

    Many people share that same testimony.

    I hope this helps. Mishael
  • Wendy robertson on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    Did God choose me before I was born? If so, doesn't that mean I knew Him before I was born?
  • Brandon - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    First of all nobody is perfect.( Romans 3:23-25) Second of all i will pray for you to the Father.( 1 Timothy 2:1-4) David, Solomon, Moses, Aaron, and others in the Bible were not perfect, sinned against God and were corrected for it.( Hebrews 12:6-11) The key thing we all need to do daily is repent of our sins because we are not perfect but Jesus Christ our Lord is and he loves us wanting the best for us.( 1 John 1:9)( 2 Peter 3:9) Our choices decide how close or distant we are from the Father.( James 4:7-10) The main thing we need to remember is that God loves use and created us for his pleasure.( Revelation 4:11) The Lord never falls short but we do. This is why he wants us to humble ourselves and ask him for forgiveness in sincerity.( Proverbs 28:13) If we are not pleasing to him he will correct us to keep us from being deceived and falling away from him. The Lord instructed use through his word and sacrificed himself to draw us closer to him.( John 1:1-5)( John 3:16) Pray believing in the Lord with a humble heart and talk to him, he loves you because your his child( Mark 11:24).
  • Harry - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1

    Many have made shipwreck of their faith by surrendering the battle. We fight on. No truer words have been spoken. I fathom this Love that still speaks to me after all these years. I wish I could say" I fought the good fight" but to be honest I have not" to many yields" not enough VICTORY. Nevertheless this love that beckons me on is beyond my comprehension or understanding. I get up dust myself off and start another day.

    Thanks Chris

  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Harry, this is our constant battle - and in some folk, the battle rages more so as the enemy of our souls seeks our spiritual destruction. The only way he can do it is by appealing to that sin nature that still is within us & convinces us that some of those sins we repented of & sought forgiveness for, are actually sins that we miss & want to revive them again.

    Apostle Paul spoke of this in Romans 6:11-14: "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body....Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you..."

    Paul was speaking of that one sin offering that Christ made for us - that He died only once (& no more) for our sin. In like manner we should have this same mind as He did & appropriate our dying to sin as a past experience, but our ongoing quest to not resurrect sin but to yield our mind/our desires/our members towards pleasing the Lord in all that we do. Easy to say but hard to do, eh?

    God has not left us without witness & help ( John 14:16-18). We have to grab onto His Holy Spirit & not let Him go until we realize victory over that sin that so easily besets us. We need to first hate the sin & then with the Spirit's Strength to immediately look to Jesus, the Author & Perfecter of our faith, & oppose the enemy's taunts with the Word of God. Why we fail, is not because of any failure by God, but of our failure to Him to despise the very thing that He hates rather we entertain it by giving any excuse.

    Our battle in this area is constant - many have made shipwreck of their faith by surrendering the battle. We fight on because we have our gaze on the Lord Jesus & "for the prize of our high calling of God in Christ Jesus". The fight will not be long.
  • Reality Check How good we have it mostly - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    If you'll read books Apostle Paul wrote, you'll see how good you have it. He was stoned, beat to a bloody pulp, locked up in prison; locked up and chained to jailer on the inside, bit by a snake that kills everybody else (Paul shook it off into a campfire).

    Much much more. It's been an inspiration to me. We're not strong by ourselves alone. We need the company of the Holy Spirit to get through the dark times.

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