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  • Wendy robertson on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    Did God choose me before I was born? If so, doesn't that mean I knew Him before I was born?
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    That is true, that God knows each one of us before we were born & also before the thoughts or plans of our parents to conceive. That's why it becomes such a great tragedy when a life is lost in the womb, especially so if it is aborted. God even knew this would happen & the life that was to be a privilege & blessing to the couple had to be returned to the One Who gave it.

    But an embryo is unaware of anything else apart from any activity within its tiny frame to survive. Unlike the belief by some religions, the Bible doesn't show that we had any existence prior to our conception & birth & therefore there should be no reason to believe that an unborn child has any other past or any recollections of it or of God. Just my opinion.
  • You were seen in your mothers womb - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1:4
    God chooses us. He sees us in the womb.

    Sometimes he calls prophets from the womb. Isaiah and Jeremiah were. David was a King of Israel. John the Baptist is the fulfillment of the prophesy of "a voice crying in the wilderness."

    He has a purpose for all of His children. We need to ask Him what that is :)

    I was aware of Someone who felt to me like a companion when I was very young; 4 yrs. I was "saved" from accidents or illness, many times. I strayed as a young adult, but when it was time; I was was saved.

    Many people share that same testimony.

    I hope this helps. Mishael
  • Brandon - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    First of all nobody is perfect.(Romans 3:23-25) Second of all i will pray for you to the Father.(1 Timothy 2:1-4) David, Solomon, Moses, Aaron, and others in the Bible were not perfect, sinned against God and were corrected for it.(Hebrews 12:6-11) The key thing we all need to do daily is repent of our sins because we are not perfect but Jesus Christ our Lord is and he loves us wanting the best for us.(1 John 1:9)(2 Peter 3:9) Our choices decide how close or distant we are from the Father.(James 4:7-10) The main thing we need to remember is that God loves use and created us for his pleasure.(Revelation 4:11) The Lord never falls short but we do. This is why he wants us to humble ourselves and ask him for forgiveness in sincerity.(Proverbs 28:13) If we are not pleasing to him he will correct us to keep us from being deceived and falling away from him. The Lord instructed use through his word and sacrificed himself to draw us closer to him.(John 1:1-5)(John 3:16) Pray believing in the Lord with a humble heart and talk to him, he loves you because your his child(Mark 11:24).
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Harry, this is our constant battle - and in some folk, the battle rages more so as the enemy of our souls seeks our spiritual destruction. The only way he can do it is by appealing to that sin nature that still is within us & convinces us that some of those sins we repented of & sought forgiveness for, are actually sins that we miss & want to revive them again.

    Apostle Paul spoke of this in Romans 6:11-14: "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body....Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you..."

    Paul was speaking of that one sin offering that Christ made for us - that He died only once (& no more) for our sin. In like manner we should have this same mind as He did & appropriate our dying to sin as a past experience, but our ongoing quest to not resurrect sin but to yield our mind/our desires/our members towards pleasing the Lord in all that we do. Easy to say but hard to do, eh?

    God has not left us without witness & help (John 14:16-18). We have to grab onto His Holy Spirit & not let Him go until we realize victory over that sin that so easily besets us. We need to first hate the sin & then with the Spirit's Strength to immediately look to Jesus, the Author & Perfecter of our faith, & oppose the enemy's taunts with the Word of God. Why we fail, is not because of any failure by God, but of our failure to Him to despise the very thing that He hates rather we entertain it by giving any excuse.

    Our battle in this area is constant - many have made shipwreck of their faith by surrendering the battle. We fight on because we have our gaze on the Lord Jesus & "for the prize of our high calling of God in Christ Jesus". The fight will not be long.
  • Harry - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1

    Many have made shipwreck of their faith by surrendering the battle. We fight on. No truer words have been spoken. I fathom this Love that still speaks to me after all these years. I wish I could say" I fought the good fight" but to be honest I have not" to many yields" not enough VICTORY. Nevertheless this love that beckons me on is beyond my comprehension or understanding. I get up dust myself off and start another day.

    Thanks Chris

  • Reality Check How good we have it mostly - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    If you'll read books Apostle Paul wrote, you'll see how good you have it. He was stoned, beat to a bloody pulp, locked up in prison; locked up and chained to jailer on the inside, bit by a snake that kills everybody else (Paul shook it off into a campfire).

    Much much more. It's been an inspiration to me. We're not strong by ourselves alone. We need the company of the Holy Spirit to get through the dark times.
  • Fred Scanlan - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Sounds like you need a change of scenery. Our flesh is our biggest obstacle. We develop bad habits that will persuade us to think that we deserve something that is probably not what the spirit of God wants or can use. When you give yourself to Christ, that's when the holy spirit starts its work. We should never frustrate the holy spirit, but if we do, He will forgive us and show us another way! The first thing that will happen, is the same thing that happened to Christ. When you truly give yourself to Christ, Satan will be right there ready to tempt you. Just like Christ we must confront evil with good. The word of God! The only way that we can live in the spirit is believing that Christ died and rose again , and that his spirit will live in you! That's it. very simple, right? No, its not simple! We live in a world ruled by Satan. We cannot overcome Satan unless we are IN CHRIST! Peace is one of many blessings you will receive. If you have no peace, than you are probably not in the spirit of God!
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Hello Harry. I feel your frustration. Once being led to the truth and being cleaned up a bit. It's truly sad to see how twisted this world really is. Just keep on giving it your best, to do what's right, brother. The Lord is with you always. Cry out to Him and pray, tell Him your frustrations and ask for help. One thing I always think of is "what good is a test if it's easy". Take it one day at a time. God Bless you brother.
  • 1 Thessalonians 1. 9 ,10

    V 10 and wait for His Son from heaven , whom whom He raised from the dead , Jesus which delivered us from the wrath to come .

    This is very reassuring to know we are already delivered by The power of God from the wrath to come upon the ungodly and sinners .

    No need to be raptured out !

    Romans 8 v 35 ,36,37,38,39

    Amen !
  • Shannon Randall on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Is there a passage in the New Testament that speaks to man's need for hierarchy in a congregation, or "branches" or "campuses" of a congregation being established?
  • The Five Fold Ministry in the Church - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    These scriptures define the system that Jesus set forth in Scripture. People call it the Five Fold Ministry. If you spread your fingers: the apostle is the thumb because it can touch on the other four fingers;

    the Pastor is the ring finger, because they daily care for Jesus's sheep.

    The prophet is the forefinger calling people to repent (points).

    Teacher is the center finger.

    Pastor, Keeper of the sheep.

    Last but not the least: Evangelist. The Gospel with shoes on.

    Jesus demonstrated the entire 5 fold ministry.

    Some people call themselves Apostles today. So as to not judge, you should spiritually discern the fruit of the Tree which is Jesus. Some people say the disciples were set apart as Apostles by having seen the risen Jesus; and that the modern Church does not have the office of Apostle in it.

    Ephesians 4:11

    And he (Jesus) gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    1 Corinthians 12:28

    And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

    I'm sure other comments will be added to this post. Just enter those as a new comment so my mailbox doesn't overflow.

  • Verse 6-The Christians in Thessalonica were prepared for persecution and their joy came from imitating good examples and the joy of having God's holy spirit upon them.
  • Mule, in reply to Thessalonians 1... those who are without sin, cast the first stone.
  • where does it say do not pass judgement on others , or to judge or be judged
  • What do I tell people who think Christians are bad because of the crusades?
  • Mickey - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    People find all kinds of excuses to deny Jesus. Each time, their hearts harden. Too bad.. all the love they ever craved was standing at the door of their heart; knocking.
  • Dan - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    All people have done wrong and sinned. Those who think Christians are worse are mistaken, because atheists have created more atrocities, like Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong. It doesn't mean their religion is to blame though. Christianity teaches to turn the other cheek and to love others. Killing is a violation. Just because someone violates their religion doesn't mean the religion is somehow to blame. I can't play the piano and if I try to play Mozart and do a bad job, does that mean Mozart was a bad composer? The associations are logical fallacies. Also the crusades were mostly Catholic, in certain part of the world that was recently attacked. So, its false to blame all Christians for it.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Ravi Zacharias has a good video on this subject you can find online.
  • JB MAC on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Why have you removed the word "wine skins" and replaced it with "wine bottles"? And would you please return the bible to its original form?. It is not wise to tamper with God's word. Please repent and correct it.

    Thank you.
    jb mac.
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Hello, why would you assume the KJV ever said 'skins'? Other translations use that word, but not KJV. KJV has always been 'bottles' and that is proven by looking at a scan of the original printing 400+ years ago which happens to be right here on this site: Link - Usually not a good idea to accuse others of things you haven't fully researched yourself then to ask people you don't know to 'repent' about it already being correct? Have you prayed to God before making these claims? Matthew 7:5
  • Mickey on 1 Thessalonians 1
    When I was younger I was involved in street ministry. I too thought Catholics were derailed until I ran into 3 Catholic teens who had just had someone tell them they were going to hell for praying to Mary, mother of Jesus. I asked them WHAT they believed about Jesus. Do you believe Jesus is the son of God? Do you believe He lived a perfect sinless life? That he was crucified on the Cross for your sins? That He died and 3 days later was resurrected to life. They all said yes to each question. I hugged them and prayed for their pain of being accused. Luke ch. 1:48 prophesies: ALL GENERATIONS shall call Mary BLESSED. Catholics do this. Do not Judge them.
  • Mickey - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    I did ask the 3 boys if they had received Jesus as Lord & Savior. The whole point of that testimony is people being judgements about the Catholic Church. God leaned in on me and said DONT judge! Then He set me down to see the prophesy spoken to Mary by the angel, which she repeated. In Matthew. ALL generations will call me blessed. I don't have to defend God. He will work out every detail. Fact is your garden variety Christian doesn't give Jesus's mother a 2nd thought. Admit it.
  • Jesse - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    None of us have the right to tell someone they are going to hell because they are Catholic and they pray to Mary, even though we are to pray to God alone through Jesus Christ. A more proper approach would have been to show them what the Bible teaches about prayer, and who we are to pray to. You asked some great questions, but did you ask them if they ever received Christ and been born of His Spirit? Even though they answered yes to all your questions, belief in itself does not save them. A person must receive Jesus Christ in order to be saved.
    Can we tell someone they will end up in hell? Yes! If someone flat out rejects Christ, we have the authority to tell them that will end up in hell.
  • My brother, please reconsider your views on this. Jesus is our role model. We must study the life of Christ and how he walked this earth. Jesus taught us that we must love as he did. Pray as he did. Help as he did. Jesus himself was baptized Matthew 3:16 - Matthew 20:22&23. As you mentioned, we must believe Jesus is the way. You must also understand that Baptism is necessary for the Christian that once you believe on Jesus and accept him, baptism is a symbolic act of you dying to the world(self)of sin, and resurrecting in the new life of Jesus. 2 Corinth 5:17 Says if you are in Christ you are a new creature. Baptism symbolizes that newness. Grace gives you a right to salvation, have to earn it.
  • Benji - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    I think you're confusing our Christian walk with Salvation. like I said to Waunda: " Baptism, AFTER we are saved, is good, and if if you can be baptized then go ahead. But NOT to be saved.".So I'm not saying don't be Baptised. I'm saying you don't have to be baptized, to be saved. You said it was a requirement for Salvation. That's a problem. And on top of that, you said you have to earn it (Salvation) another problem. Because Salvation is the GIFT of God and that not of ourselves (See Ephesians 2:8-9). And let me emphasize John 3:36 again: He that believeth on the Son HATH everlasting life. Meaning the moment you believe you HAVE it. You don't earn it. That's works Salvation.
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Hi Benji, I'd like to challenge your OSAS belief with what Jesus himself said in John 14:15. Do you think Jesus was being bad and legalistic by saying to keep his commandments? If a Christian is already saved and doesn't have to keep his commandments then what incentive is there to? Is there any negative consequence whatsoever if a Christian mass murders people or worships satan or does any number of despicable things? If you claim he's not a real Christian, no, he is. I know people who are 100% absolutely Christians and some turn to denounce Jesus and do horrible things. They were Christians. If all you do is believe to be saved, do you believe Hitler and most people on earth are saved?
  • Marsha on 1 Thessalonians 1
    Spreading love and positivity across the Nation, World, and Universe! Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty! He who was, is, and is to come! Glory be to the Lord God Almighty! I praise you Lord! I bless you Lord! I humble myself! I rebuke satan and I repent! I worship thee! I exalt thee! I bow down to thee!
  • Ajali Paul Ugonna on 1 Thessalonians 1
    I need a deep explanation of matt CH 14:19-20

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