1 Thessalonians 4:17

“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

King James Version (KJV)

Other Translations for 1 Thessalonians 4:17

Then we which are aliue, and remaine, shalbe caught vp together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the aire: and so shall wee euer bee with the Lord.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan

Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
- New American Standard Version (1995)

then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
- American Standard Version (1901)

Then we who are still living will be taken up together with them into the clouds to see the Lord in the air: and so will we be for ever with the Lord.
- Basic English Bible

then *we*, the living who remain, shall be caught up together with them in [the] clouds, to meet the Lord in [the] air; and thus we shall be always with [the] Lord.
- Darby Bible

Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
- Webster's Bible

Afterwards we who are alive and are still on earth will be caught up in their company amid clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
- Weymouth Bible

then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever.
- World English Bible

Therfor be ye coumfortid togidere in these wordis.
- Wycliffe Bible

then we who are living, who are remaining over, together with them shall be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in air, and so always with the Lord we shall be;
- Youngs Literal Bible

Bible Commentary for 1 Thessalonians 4:17

Wesley's Notes for 1 Thessalonians 4:17


4:17 Together - In the same moment. In the air - The wicked will remain beneath, while the righteous, being absolved, shall be assessors with their Lord in the judgment. With the Lord - In heaven.


People's Bible Notes for 1 Thessalonians 4:17


1Th 4:17 Then we . . . together with them. All the church, the saints of past ages, and the saints of the last age, shall ascend together to meet the Lord. So shall we ever be with the Lord. That glorious meeting shall never end.

Discussion for 1 Thessalonians 4

  • Leslie asleep is the subject matter of the chapter and it is speaking of those that are dead and will return with the Lord. Clouds is as Paul used when speaking of a crowd of people gathered to race as in chapter 11 of Hebrews using street Greek and you'll come to the word "air" and that means spiritual breath or changing to spiritual life bodies. The chapter is the dead returning and we here on earth can't prevent it cause it's going to happen. Now if you read the KJV Bible in Ezekiel 13 you'll see God hates those who teach the fly to save their souls speaking of preachers who out of their own mind dream up their own Devine thoughts and not Gods because the rapture is a lie and not in Gods plan. Learn the word and you'll change your place of worship.
  • Richard in Christ - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    If I may also reply to your post Word 76.

    Now the "rapture" is of coarse controversial to the church with usually three or four variants of when this happens. I myself would never say "the rapture is a lie". How would anyone know the exact plans of God? How deep His mind is as it could mean numerous things. Very much the literal "harpazo" or "snatching away by force" of the Church of Christ from this earth. The word "cloud" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. is the Greek word "nephele" and means just that "a cloud in the air".

    As I've stated before on this subject. We must be ready for the return of our Lord Jesus Christ at all times. As in what hour you think not is when the Son of Man cometh. Matthew 24:44. Weather a "rature" or when our life here ends does not really matter. It is going to be one or the other and of coarse most likely we shall have to go through physical death. We must endure till the end. Though I would never say the Lord is not going to snatch away His Church one day from this wicked world. I pray ever single day the Lord takes me home. Though everything is His Will not ours. We must be patient and solid in the Lord.

    The word "rapture" comes from the Latin word "rapiemur", which is from "rapto", having the same meaning as the Greek "harpazo". Which is used in the Latin Vulgate in 1 Thessalonians 4:17.

    God Bless.
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    Brother Richard, I will respond to Isaiah 66, 2 Peter 3:7 and these other scriptures, I'm slow.
  • Hello, I don't believe such assumptions are true. I believe the Bible is true exactly in what it says: 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17, when it says both those asleep (dead) and those alive will meet Jesus in the air and clouds it meets exactly that.

    When it says one will be taken the other left, it also means exactly that: Luke 17:34-36. And when it says the same thing here, it also means that too: Matthew 24:40-41. Rapture is just a convenient word people use to describe what Jesus told us would happen.

    Ezekiel 13 isn't related to this rapture. God bless.
  • Patty Tozi on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    The Lord will always Fight for you. Always remember in these days. Never knowing the outcome of each day we are weary and afraid. Put the word of God in front of you. The music of His words that will straighten you. Close your eyes and look for His light that will surround you -- protecting you at all times. Go after everything you were afraid of doing in the past. Go after it as your day to day will end at a moment notice. Protect your self from spiritual warfare of this world. Stay close to God as never before. Look at all His creations. Sounds He created for us. Get your mind off of not succeeding--- But making it work with God right in front of you. Be quiet and listen to God talking to you. Watch for signs. Watch for unusual things to happen for the Best. Stay in Prayer and walking close to Him in your heart. Pretty soon you will feel His Special Light of His Love that will be able to move mountains at what you want in your life. Stay close to God Always....
  • Laura - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    Thank You so much all I can do is try God himself would have to break into my heart and soul to be that person he want me to be I'm not perfect I'm just a sinner trying to find my way to him I'm so blinded by my hurt and disappointments I can't see I just don't think he really want me I know in my heart I'm not worthy of Him I'm tired if I went to sleep tonite and didn't wake up tomorrow that would be fine but only if i knew GOD would take me home with Him i'll be ok
  • The Ongoing War in Our Minds - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    Familiar spirits are evil monitoring spirits sent from the pit of hell to monitor your ancestors all the way to you.

    Morning Prayer: Binding the strongman

    This is the day the Lord has made; I will rejoice and be glad in it! Today I rest in the embrace of my heavenly Father's love for me. My father loves me. He spoke me forth from before the beginning of this world, and said this is my child, never rejected! I center myself in Jesus Christ, and I proclaim I am forgiven. There is now no condemnation for me because I am in Christ Jesus!

    For this day, I renounce all fear, doubt, worry, unbelief, discouragement, depression, pride, arrogance, gossip, [insert here what's troubling your mind],

    and in the strong name of Jesus Christ I repent my sin and I take back any ground I have given the enemy in my life!

    TODAY, I renounce all fear, doubt, worry, unbelief, discouragement, depression, pride, arrogance, gossip, [fill in your specifics] , and in the strong name of Jesus Christ I repent my sin and I TAKE BACK any ground I have given the enemy in my life!

    I thank you Jesus for walking with me all day today, and I praise you for your unsearchable love and majesty. Help me to be an instrument of your Peace. Amen"

    As we pray this part of the Morning Prayer, we are entering the strongman's house and binding him and his work in our lives. As we repent our sins and renounce the ways that we have given the devil a foothold, we will begin to live in the Freedom and power that Christ died to give us.

    The battle with Satan is largely in our MIND. The devil wants control of our minds because if he can control our mind, he can control us. The way we reject Satan and his lies is to repent Of believing the lies and renouncing them.

    Renouncing simply means: to verbally reject something. We speak our rejection of Satan out loud because he, unlike God, cannot hear what we think. He can only hear what we SPEAK OUT.

    Let me know how it goes, ok? Mishael
  • Stanjett - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    word rapture is not in the bible BUT that don't mean it is not real. When all believers meet Jesus in the clouds is what we believe to be the rapture. Just because the word is not in the bible don't mean it is not true.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    No. It means you are saved right then. Not later. You do not have to do anything else. ( you will, but you don't have to.) Some say you have to be babtized. You do but not to be saved. You are already saved before you are babtized. After you are saved you will do what He says to do, like being babtized and follow Him.
  • Stanjett - in Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17
    The word rapture is not in the bible. BUT that don't mean that there won't be one. It's clear that there will be one. When the dead in Christ shall rise first and then we that are alive will rise and meet the Lord in the sky.


 

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