1 John Chapter 4 Discussion



 
  • GiGi - in Reply on 1 John 4:1
    Dear Bon, You are correct that Jesus is the Son of God who took on flesh to be our

    Savior through His death and resurrection.

    However, He is indeed God who took on flesh. In this incarnation, His divine nature did not change. He took upon Himself the

    additional nature of man in order to be the perfect sacrifice for our sins.
  • Marke - in Reply on 1 John 4:1
    Jesus was made flesh and dwelt among men before offering Himself a sacrifice for the sins of the whole world and returning to heaven as the Creator God of the universe.
  • Suze - in Reply on 1 John 4:1
    Christ was definately flesh , just like us , he did however receive the Spirit of God without measure , something that had happened in the past to the prophets of old but not without measure . God cannot be tempted , we read that Christ was tempted just as we are , unlike us , Christ resisted to death . Even on the cross he was tempted as the Jews shouted to him ; if you are the son of God come down from the cross , save yourself . This would have been a temptation to anyone who could actually do that if they chose to ,

    considering the physical pain he will have been in .
  • Bon on 1 John 4:1
    1john 4.1-6

    It a appears that the this problem began back in the Apostles time and is now prevalent today .

    The key is that they believe in a spiritual God of their truth , but deny the humanity of Christ in so doing this .

    Jesus is the Son of man and Son of God according to all scriptures . We must make it all important to realize that he has flesh and is come in the flesh . And still is .

    To make him a special deity is to trump the fact that he comes as a man in the flesh .

    God is not a man and does not have flesh . And never will because God never changes . He inhabits eternity. Before the world or heavens existed, and heaven and earth will pass away , but God remains the same as always .
  • Hazel carty on 1 John 4
    love one another as he loves ous first, GOD is love without love their is no hope,
  • Computer Safety - in Reply on 1 John 4
    Take it to Best Buy and let the geek squad help you with that. They're all young and familiar with hacking.

    I've hired them a few times.
  • Evelyn T Woodson on 1 John 4
    This Epistle of John is one of my foundations I learned to stand on as an adult. As a motherless child facking death by family memebrs after the death of my mother due to domestic violence ,that was covered up.So many attempts on my life by satan in countless plans , failed as soon as I became a Wife and mother my little flock was targeted the first child was murdered in the womb by police brutality. the second was born premature at 6 months, He was given a slim chance of survival by Medical Doctor. ICU for three months,Hospital and Original Family planded Kidnapping and obtaning Court ordered Ward of State Statues so the Abusive grand father could gain Custody for Gov Funds,But God helped me througha Godly Nurse who unlocked the Isolation room where the Baby was held Hostage/Ransom. She nodded and exited the area I scooped up the 8 Lb bundle in blankets I had brought and exited the stairs hailed a Taxi fled over the State Line, to a Brothers resident in SC 15 or 20 minutes later theShreiff showed up.I told my Sister-in law to say I was not there, He asked if I was there she No sir she wnet to NY this Morning. I hid out there for a few days and the Brother and friends came at night and took me and the Premie to NC , It would be months before I was able to go to CT and get Contact with Father of Child who was Active Duty Military. In my care the child thrived by it was hardships after hardship ,hateful inlaws ,the Second was a Girl traumatic birthing and abusive delivery nurse. Later violence by the father. Divorced .Father age 26 Cancer and deceased, Married son number 2 traumatized birthing .later Brian Tumor school brutality ,Medical Abuses countless to tell .12 -23-2019 deceased .Presently in Izmir Turkey working on Bookof grace preserverence living proof that God dwells in hearts. If there are any Godly person with Cyber Skills I need help With Attackers using Spyware Male ware and Cell device stalking email hacking
  • S Spencer - in Reply on 1 John 4
    Amen Michelle.

    This is a caused by the Holyspirit and there is no resistance to this.

    1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God "love his brother also."

    This is virtue by being connected to the true vine.

    God bless.
  • Michelle on 1 John 4
    Humans are superficial. We cannot love what we have not sensed, without the aid of the Holy Spirit. This is not to say the love starts with sight, or that you should love people before you love God. But if you love God, then loving fellow Christians will come naturally.
  • Michelle on 1 John 4:1
    @Put on Christ even though we may not want to - Some people actually do like it.
  • Ronny on 1 John 4:1
    The spirit of error is being ensnared or under the power of evil even though using all the right words and doing what seems to be right in the eyes of the erroneous one .

    This happens primarily by false teachings of others taken the same way . And the alarming thing is these are many not a few . These are dark and spiritual dangerous times . The word of God and prayer can not be underestimated. But they will preserve you from errors .
  • Joshua ogbebor on 1 John 4
    Are can we over the things of this world
  • Sacha - in Reply on 1 John 4
    Hi Jeannie Myers ,i am the only Christian in my entire family ,i havent seen most of them for well over a year until today ,i cant say that ive ever been very close to any of them ,we dont have much in common but today there was a family get together and it was very apparent to me that i have drifted far from them ,all they could talk about was money ,how well their jobs and their childrens jobs were goung ,how well they were all doing ,financially not spiritually ,where they had been or were going on holiday , i had nothing to say to any of them , some of these people i love very much but today i wondered why i loved them ,i had been thinking that i was getting to be a bit of a worldly person but in the company of a load of proud arrogant materialistic atheists i felt totally out of place ,we are not of this world ,we are not supposed to be ,my advice is to make God and Jesus your best friends and your family ,work on your relationship with them ,when you come into contact with others always be generous and kind as Jesus was and God wants us to be but dont allow this world and the people of it to stick to you ,you are called out of this world ,you are a Christian ,this world isnt your home and the things of this world dont belong to you and you dont beling to it ,try to do those things that please God ,not people , if the world loves you you are probably not pleasing God .
  • Earl Bowman - in Reply on 1 John 4
    Sister Jeannie, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The day that CHRIST IN YOU arrived, a living FIRE was ALSO kindled IN YOU (for our God is a consuming FIRE Hebrews 12:29).

    If you have ever watched a trash pile be burned, you know it takes time. Even after the flames died down the coals stay alive under the surface. If other trash is put upon the coals the flame appears and destroys them also. CHRIST IS OUR FIRE; live in peace of this knowledge; you will become PERFECT, like him. He will DESTROY the unwanted trash in you. He knows exactly when and how. We are the POT he is the POTTER; be still and behold THE SALVATION OF GOD. Knowing the END (you will be created in the IMAGE OF GOD) CAUSES us through Christ's GRACE to ENDURE.

    When CHRIST IN YOU arrived the ACCUSER was cast out.

    Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is SALVATION, and strength, and the kingdom of GOD (CHRIST IN YOU), and the power of his Christ: for the ACCUSER of our brethren is CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night.

    Philippians 4:7 And the PEACE OF GOD, which passeth all understanding, shall KEEP your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - in Reply on 1 John 4
    TO: Jeannie Myers on 1 John 4

    You did not mention if the people you can not tolerate is sinner or saint. Sometimes it is better for Christians to separate themselves, (if possible) from anybody that may provoke them to anger, especially unbelievers; 2 Corinthians 6:14

    (Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?)

    Every time you start thinking on these negative thoughts, remind yourself of God's Word, First John 4:4 (Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.) The most important thing you can do is ask God to forgive you,/ you forgive them, and constantly pray, may the Lord Jesus help you in your trials.
  • Put on Christ even though we may not want to - in Reply on 1 John 4
    I had problems like that when I was younger. Now I'm a bit more wiser. Evangelizing complete strangers works that out of you. Because you see with Jesus's eyes and heart.

    We are to be the Body of Christ when we are confronted with those feelings. The heart of the Lord is Mercy.

    Usually, it is Who is inside of you, that is being repelled by What is in them. It will help if you google: The Armor of God, Teaching. Do not read Wikipedia posts as they are google teachings.

    Ephesians 6: If a person, Christian or Unbeliever, has an invisible evil spirit at work, in the vicinity; trying its best to bring enmity into the situation:

    That is your enemy. It's invisible but you can see, feel and experience the FRUIT that spirit is revealing it's presence. It may be trying to shoo you away from telling that person anything about Jesus.

    You need to put each piece of your Armor on and know what each piece does. Read in the Gospels, what Jesus said and how he responded to spiritual confrontations.

    Sometimes it really helps if we make an appointment to run by the Church at lunch and have a prayer with Pastors wife. It's private and confidential. I know she and Pastor will pray for me later. It's cool.

    We're all called to be likable; not necessarily 'like' everyone we meet.

    The Holy Spirit opened up JOB 1, to me concerning satan and his bad angels. He accuses us right and left. The sneak around observing what we do, what we say under our breath about bad drivers and grumpy people. Satan saw that Job was afraid his kids were not worshiping God right so Job did it for them. Satan sees our fears, our actions, mean mumbling, our wealth and luxury's we like; knows all our friends with "loose mouth", not comforting, speech. Satan destroyed everything Job had, and left Job sitting in the dirt.

    It's best to be silent and trust God even more than we do now. I think you have this under control, you just don't like it. No one does.
  • S Spencer - in Reply on 1 John 4
    Hi Jeannie.

    You're not alone in this struggle, there's areas we continue to grow by praying and continuing in the word,

    Our spiritual growth is increased by God, not our own efforts, That's one of the several things I never could do on my own, and compassion would just come from nowhere, It's the fruit of the spirit, we are to abide in Christ, We may be able to control the our actions externally but inwardly is where we need help,

    Look what Jesus tells the Pharisees:

    Matthew 23:25-28. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

    Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

    Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

    There's a Devine connection between 2 true believers, a brotherhood created by the Lord himself. They have the same Spirit, connected to the same vine and have the same vine dresser,

    When there seems to be some disconnect that want mend there is a chance someone is not connected to the vine,

    This is a problem in the Christian community,

    Different views of doctrine has exposed carnal or false Christians by hate that can be seen, It is something to be concerned with but it may be an area the Lord will have to deal with.

    Proverbs 16:7. When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

    God bless.
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 John 4
    Hello, developing character and becoming more Christlike is a process, a journey through intentional effort over time. It doesn't magically happen, but takes regular practice.

    Christianity is an action to actively follow (pursue) Christ and try to emulate Him and obey His teachings. It takes a lot of effort. Paul struggled himself and likened it to him running a race to win the prize. The prize is not won yet- that happens after this life when we are first judged and by following Christ we have hope for everlasting life with Him in heaven. I personally do not believe anyone is saved until after God judges us.

    1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"

    1 John 2:4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

    Matt 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
  • Jeannie Myers on 1 John 4
    There are days that I absolutely cannot tolerate certain people. If I pray for them does this mean I have love in my heart for them even knowing I want nothing to do with them? I know God doesn't give us the spirit of confusion, I do know where that comes from. I have been struggling with this for some time now. I am saved and asked Jesus to come into my heart, I will never forget that day, not ever! Please, can someone help me to understand how a person can be saved and yet have such bitterness. I know I m supposed to forgive and I have often. I don't want to struggle with this any longer. I can say I love them because I can pray or forgive them but want nothing to do with them, is that coming from a person that has asked the Holy SPirit to come into their lives??? Please help. Thank you, Jeannie.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 4:1
    Could be that "Jesus is a mighty King".
  • Jered Vereen - in Reply on 1 John 4:1
    Queen,

    In some quarters of the world, Jesus is mythical as all get out.

    You're not wrong.
  • Queen on 1 John 4:1
    I agree. jesus is a mithy king
  • BSP on 1 John 4
    Verse 19 shows that Jehovah God took the initiative in showing love to us and in return we learn how to love.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 4:19
    I see that the "meek inheriting the Earth", is the Lord describing the type of spirit & attitude of a 'meek' person towards God & man. The 'meek' person in himself cannot inherit the Earth, nor can he be acceptable to God without the intervention of the Cross in his life. Yet, that 'meek' disposition must be evident in all of God's children, as one so endued by the Holy Spirit.
  • ERECH CHRIST NIMROD - in Reply on 1 John 4:19
    Dear Sacha on 1 John 4:19 "We LOVE Him because He First LOVED us." Christians who are worthy do go to Heaven after death. And the Meek (the Teachable) will inherit the Earth right here and right now, and in the Hereafter. We pray this has helped you in some way. Peace.
  • ERECH CHRIST NIMROD on 1 John 4
    We Know and Believe "God is LOVE" to all ethnicities. We do not see pictures of people of color on your sight. Why is this??? Thank you.
  • Sacha on 1 John 4:19
    Can any one help me with this please ? If Christians go to heaven after death why does Jesus say the meek shall inherit the earth ? Any ideas any one ? Thankyou .
  • James Futch on 1 John 4:19
    Where did the sprinkling for baptism come from in the bible?
  • Vlet on 1 John 4:19
    What is the meaning that Jesus made clay from his spittle and earth, and then applied it to the blindman eye to make him see? What is the deeper meaning? His spittle is God's spittle that is mixed with earth to make the clay; so what is the deeper meaning of all this?
  • Truth seeker - in Reply on 1 John 4:15
    Yes Jesus is the way to God .

    Read gospel of John anyone that is interested in this all important subject of Jesus and the Father .

    Chapter 12 to chapter 17 , may the Lord find you and reveal the truth to you , we all are still learning . Press on !


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