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  • Jane on 1 John 3
    Does the AntiChrist come before the rapture.
  • FALLING AWAY by Mishael - in Reply on 1 John 3
    2 Thessalonians 2:3-7 - Let no man DECEIVE you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin (Antichrist) be revealed, the son of perdition;

    What we are seeing on our TVs is a massive FALLING AWAY!! Our Congress has made it illegal to sing in Church: which I am sure Joe Biden will enforce. Churches will start closing due to lack of support. Congress will try to destroy Church tax exempt status.

    Large churches cannot allow everyone to attend, due to "COVID" restrictions.

    Take a good long look, folks. Without a miracle, our government is planning to get rid of Christians so the BLM, KKK and godless Millennials can have a nation without God. America will have to increase taxes to support "abortions for the whole world". That's a fact by the way. ACLJ dot com.

    I call 32 hurricanes in one year a huge sign; as is millions of burned forest acres. Mid size earthquakes are happening near all major fault lines; coral reefs are dying, drought is worsening; our country has sold a million acres of USA farmland to the Chinese to grow food for them: not us. Are your food bills doubling? They gave us corona virus; and swine flu in infected meat imported from China. Our Congress will restore NO SANCTIONS against China for these offenses! Look for it. Read those stories on Google. Don't take my word for it.

    Congress plans to Force Israel into a 2-State "peace agreement", which God is AGAINST in scripture!

    The Christians are barely awake concerning the last few prophesies that are being fulfilled rapidly. AWAKE SLEEPERS.

    All this fighting about every personal interest group, is hastening the Time When The Rapture Will Occur. Only those whose names are in the Lambs Book Of Life are going to be TAKEN up in the Clouds. Pray for the Chinese Christians! They're being imprisoned for owning a Bible or being Christian inside their private homes. THIS is the FALLING AWAY we are seeing.

    Read Matthew 24, Thess, 1,2 John, Daniel
  • Richard Chestney on 1 John 3
    I've always pondered on this one question is - when we as true believers. When we go to heaven will we sleep in heaven?
  • Mishael - in Reply on 1 John 3
    It doesn't say. Everyone has to wait and anticipate the pleasures and joy of heaven revealed.

    I've always wished I could lay down on green grass under a tree without being crawled in by every bug in the area. Lol
  • Jen P on 1 John 3
    I take the 20th verse of 1 John Ch. 3 to mean that, even when we feel guilt over past sin, God looks into our heart and sees our desire to repent. Any thoughts from others?
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 John 3
    This chapter is talking about Christians (sons of God) as mentioned in verses 1-2 and it underscores how important it is to keep God's commandments and abide in Him. It's conditional, abiding is a verb, which is something we must do. Grace isn't a free pass to live in the world and enjoy unlimited sin and some twist it to mean that so they can feel better about sinning, but it doesn't say that. If we are obedient and keep God's commandments then we dwell in Him (verse 24). If our heart doesn't condemns us (v21) then we can have confidence of our standing with God, but verse 20 suggests if our hearts condemn us then we shouldn't have confidence in our standing with God. So, God knows our heart and knows if our hearts condemn us and this isn't God saying its totally fine to keep sinning. Not by any means. Satan is working overtime to get people to keep twisting this as long as the end result is you keep sinning and turning your back on God- that's satan's goal and unfortunately it works sometimes. verses 5-9 don't mean it's impossible for Christians to sin, because all sin and fall short, no one is perfect, only Jesus is, but it means God takes away our sin IF... we abide in Him. A Christian is a Christ-follower which is a verb- an action. We must follow his commandments verse 24. So, it underscores how being saved is not a hall pass for unlimited sin and to turn your back on God, unlike the fake news we hear people say these days. It spells it out right here in the Bible.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Just to add to Anthony's good comments, I see in these verses (19-21), the word, 'confidence' as the key. Verse 19: we can be confident before God because it rests on God's Truth. Verse 20: but if for some reason, we sense guilt & condemnation that may come from being 'overly sensitive' to committing some sin, we can rely on God knowing about it & sees/judges our action differently. And verse 21: but if we don't sense that unwarranted condemnation then it shows a true confidence in how God looks at us. Even though John writes here about a believer shutting his heart to those in need, I see the application to any other sin.

    This is particularly relevant to many believers, as we so desire to please the Lord in all of our lives, that anything we suspect to have done that is contrary to His Word & His requirements of us, severely disturbs our consciences & spirits. So we can have over-sensitive Christians who actually lead very rigid, sometimes miserable lives, as they constantly assess their spiritual condition before God.

    I knew one brother in Christ who maintained this condition & always wondered how he actually coped with living. E.g. time & energy were valuable to him & both were accountable before God: he chastised himself if he made two trips to the fridge to put something in it, when one trip would've sufficed. Another e.g.: he knew his weakness in the sexual realm; if seeing a potentially sin-causing female approaching him, he would immediately cross the road & turn his face away from her, so as to not sin. It was difficult walking alongside him on a sidewalk as this act would occur frequently & I inevitably found myself talking to myself. Now this is a severe & strange behaviour, but akin to how some react to anything that they deem as sinful, but in fact is the result of over-sensitivity. The answer to this, is not to pursue such behaviour, but to trust in God's understanding & judgement. Where clearly sin has been committed, then speedy confession made.
  • Anthony - in Reply on 1 John 3
    I believe this is our warring of the Spirit. We may feel guilt even after we have asked for true repentance. We ofter find it hard to forgive ourselves, even though we have attained forgiveness. The devil throws up past sins to defeat us, but by the grace and mercy of God they will be remembered no more. John is reminding us that we are free from the bondage of sin, but that our past reminds us of a truly sinful nature.
  • Shannon Averett P on 1 John 3:6
    What would be "Bowels of compassion" in 1John 3:11-24?
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 3:6
    "Bowels of compassion" in 1 John 3:17 is an older expression for a true, deep, empathy & giving of practical help to those who are needy. 'Bowels' was considered that deep part of one's being - today, we would refer to it as 'heart', (not the organ pumping blood), that is reached & touched with a deep sense of wanting to render every possible help to another. So if we say that God's Love is in us but we shut our hearts (bowels) to another's need, then our love for God is false & His Love is not in us. Very strong words, but also very true & challenging.
  • David W Black on 1 John 3:15
    Just trying to help. It makes a huge difference to place yourself in the right church. The Bible names the right one as the Church of God. I go to a congregation of the Church of God, at Mercersburg, PA. We are not pentecostal; speaking in tongues is not proof of the Holy Ghost; a holy, sin free, righteous life is proof however, and is recognized by God as being right.

    In the US, there are several true Church of God congregations: Mercersburg & Connoquenessing PA, Manassas & Waynesboro VA, near De Graff and near Hamilton, OH, Corbin, KY, near Hayden, ID, Iaeger/Harmon Branch, WV, Brandon, FL, Birmingham & Huntsville/Chase, AL, Porter, OK, Mattoon, IL, Avondale, AR. These represent the ones known in the US to be in fellowship and are standing true. There are other congregations around the world; these just represent here in the US. Near any of these US locations? Want truth and correct Bible teaching? A God called pastor is at these locations. Revelation 18:2 says Babylon is fallen vs 4 says to come out. So if or when you come out of false churches, here's where to go, to find truth, salvation from sin. Ep. 4:4 tells us there's 1 body, 1 Lord, 1 faith... these locations are part of that 1 body. 1 Co. 1:10 we're admonished to speak the same thing; not languages like English, Spanish, etc. but in doctrine. There is one doctrine these congregations follow; having rightly divided truth as in 2 Tim 2:15. If you desire true preaching that delivers from sin, and keeps you on the path God wants for you, attend one of these locations, repent from sin, cease the sin business, be taught about sanctification, obtain it by prayer when you remain sinless, then be fully saved and pleasing to God. If you want more info, just ask.
  • Lionjudah on 1 John 3:12
    To all my Brothers and sisters in christ who are scattered in the four corners of the world Peace be upon u all. Maye the Grace of our heavenly Father favour your prayer's through his mighty right hand our saviour who brought us out of spirital bondage. Just reading all these comment's and testimony's. Wow!! Everyone waiting on christ to return. What are really waiting for the anitichrist? Wake up people he that has and ear let him hear. He already lives in us. walk in the spirit ask of the father in christ for your spirital awaking that's in u? all of u who read's this? I'm just washing your feet Doing the will of my father in heaven to much carnal mind that's enmity against jah, I pray you guy's understand I speak spirital. love u all I pray u get the understanding? meany are called but few a chosen..
  • Rachat on 1 John 3:12
    Cain was of that wicked one the serpent. He was the child of the serpent. Adam was the Son of God and we know that God is not wicked. That can only mean that the serpent had intercourse with eve thus producing cain with all the ungodly manifestations that his father (the devil) had.
  • David W Black - in Reply on 1 John 3:12
    Sorry there but you're off on an incorrect line of thinking. Cain was still Adam's son. Cain's murder of his brother was a manifestation of his carnal heart that he inherited from daddy, that is Adam. Carnality is why you parents do not spend time teaching your children to misbehave but to correct wrong behavior. Yet they still learn to lie, steal, hate, and etc. Typically children just naturally know how to be dishonest. They were born that way because they were born carnal.

    There is a cure for that carnal heart. Step 1 is to be saved from committed sin through the prayer of repentance. Step 2 is to offer yourself to God by being sanctified, assuming you've not sinned since repentance, which is required of all to cease the sinning now on Earth. You'll need to ask Him to remove the carnal nature and to fill you with the Holy Ghost. That is the cure, how to stop sinning. Each person needs to be saved from committed and inherited sins, or you die lost.
  • Claire - in Reply on 1 John 3:12
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    I don't think God put these commandments in the Bible by accident. God does [everything] for a reason. I have asked Jesus into my heart & repented for my sins, but I'm not 100% sure that I'm saved because I'm still sinning. I'm going to try & cure my carnal heart by following all your steps & seeing if I feel any different. Thank you for sharing these steps in this thread.

    God bless you & your family.

    Kind Regards

    Claire
  • Claire - in Reply on 1 John 3:12
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    Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded [you to perform], even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

    Deuteronomy 6:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

    Deuteronomy 11:22 For if ye [shall diligently keep all] these commandments which I [command you], [to do them], to love the LORD your God, [to walk in all his ways], and to cleave unto him;

    Deuteronomy 13:4 Ye [shall walk] after the LORD your God, and fear him, and [keep] his commandments, and [obey] his voice, and ye [shall] serve him, and cleave unto him.

    2 Chronicles 31:21 And in every work that he began in the service of the house of God, and in the law, and in the commandments, to seek his God, [he did it with all his heart, and prospered.]

    Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with [them that love him and keep his commandments] to a thousand generations;

    Deuteronomy 11:1 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and [keep] his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, [alway.]

    Deuteronomy 15:5 [Only] if thou carefully hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to [observe to do all] these commandments which I command thee this day.

    Deuteronomy 27:10 Thou shalt therefore [obey] the voice of the LORD thy God, [and do] his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day.

    Deuteronomy 30:8 And thou shalt return and [obey] the voice of the LORD, [and do all] his commandments which I command thee this day.

    1 Kings 8:58 That he may incline our hearts unto him, [to walk in all his ways], [and to keep] his commandments, and his statutes, and his judgments, which he commanded our fathers.

    These are just a few of the scriptures [commanding us to keep them.]
  • Claire - in Reply on 1 John 3:12
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    1 Chronicles 28:7 Moreover I will establish his kingdom for ever, [if] he be [constant] to [do] my commandments [and] my judgments, as at this day.

    1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and [keepeth not] his commandments, [is a liar], and [the truth is not in him].

    Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they [that keep] the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    Exodus 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to [keep] my commandments and [my laws?]

    Deuteronomy 6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, [if] we observe to [do all] these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

    1 Kings 8:61 Let your heart therefore be [perfect] with the LORD our God, to [walk] in his statutes, and to [keep] his commandments, as at this day.

    Psalms 119:21 Thou hast rebuked the [proud] that are [cursed], which [do err] from thy commandments.

    Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and [keep] his commandments: for this is the [whole duty] of man.

    1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we [keep] his commandments, and [do] those things that are pleasing in his sight.

    1 John 3:24 And he that [keepeth] his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

    Deuteronomy 11:28 And a [curse], if ye will [not obey] the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.

    Proverbs 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: [keep] my commandments, and [live].

    Proverbs 10:8 The [wise] in heart [will] receive commandments: but a [prating fool shall fall].

    Revelation 22:14 Blessed are [they] that [do] his commandments, that [they] may have right to the tree of life, and [may enter] in through the gates into the city.
  • Claire - in Reply on 1 John 3:12
    Hi David W Black,

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    I agree that Cain inherited his sinful nature from Adam. Before Adam & Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good & evil they knew no sin because they were made in the image of God. It was only after they ate from the tree that they new good & evil.

    Jesus is our role model on how we [should] live. [If] it was [impossible] for us to [sin no more] then Jesus wouldn't of commanded us to [do] it.

    John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: [sin no more], lest a worse thing come unto thee.

    John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and [sin no more].

    1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we [keep] his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    John 15:10 [If] ye [keep] my commandments, ye [shall] abide in my love; even as I have [kept] my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

    1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, [if] we [keep] his commandments.

    Leviticus 22:31 Therefore shall ye [keep] my commandments, and [do] them: I am the LORD.

    John 14:15 [If] ye love me, [keep] my commandments.

    Leviticus 26:3 [If] ye walk in my statutes, [and keep] my commandments, and [do] them;

    Numbers 15:40 That ye may remember, and [do] [all] my commandments, and [be holy] unto your God.

    Deuteronomy 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, [and keep all] my commandments [always], that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!



    Proverbs 7:2 [Keep] my commandments, and [live]; and my law as the apple of thine eye.

    Exodus 20:6 And shewing mercy unto [thousands] of them that [love me], [and keep] my commandments.

    Deuteronomy 5:10 And shewing mercy unto [thousands] of them that [love me] [and keep] my commandments.

    Deuteronomy 11:27 A blessing, [if] ye [obey] the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day.
  • Frank Garcia - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    Continue to pray, everything is possible with Jesus have faith in him he will answer you in his own time repent your sins . God bless you.
  • Alex on 1 John 3:9
    Comments by Alex about Jesus saying he came to fulfill the law.Sin is the trangression of the law. But b/c of his death we will be bornagain of an incorriptible seed, even by the word of God,When a seed dies it multiplies thus b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven. Everybody is gonna get a seed, everybody is gona get a measure of faith. Resulting in Birth and them that ARE BORN OF GOD CANNOT SIN, THATS HOW HE WILL FULFILL THE LAW BY HIS SEED THAT IS GONNA REMAIN IN US BRINGING FORTH FRUIT UNTO GOD which is Christ in us, His seed is gona result in a birth of Christ in US, making it impossible to sin thus fulfilling the LAW.Sin is the trangression of the law, But if we cannot sin then the law is fulfilled. Thats what he is talking bout when he said he came to fulfill the Law. Its simply about Christ in us making it impossible to sin from our hearts.
  • Frank Garcia - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    Your love for your mother is God sent let your heart cry out through the Holy spirit I pray that your mother keep the faith and that Jesus will comfort you and your mother and family don't give up . praise Jesus forever and forever.
  • What does Edify mean on 1 John 3:15
    Ephesians 4:29

    Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

    1 Thessalonians 5:11

    Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

    1 Timothy 1:4

    Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    To Edify simply means to encourage, uplift or to give moral or spiritual benefit to someone.

    In Ephesians 4:29, Paul was dealing with the sort of things we might talk about. Many then spoke useless or accusatory things of each other. Rather, they should use their tongue for another's benefit or blessing. See also James 1:26 and 3:5-8.

    In 1 Thes 5:11, Paul was dealing with Christians in that Church that were fearful & despairing that those who had died would miss out on being resurrected at Christ's coming & also about the coming Day of the Lord. He encouraged them in these matters & told them to edify each other, especially those that were still fearful.

    In 1 Tim 1:4, again Paul ministering to young Timothy, encouraged him to avoid matters & discussions that only gave rise to more questions & disputings that led to no fruitful outcome. Rather concentrate on matters that would strengthen & encourage other believers: things that blessed the hearer & had great eternal value.
  • Mishael - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    I will think about what you've said. I much prefer to help people in the prayer room.

    You are kindness, that I would like to be. Thanks for your concern.
  • Mishael on 1 John 3:15
    There is plenty of comment already written by people who study long hours on it.

    Scroll down to the. 1-100 pages of past days, comment.

    Yeah, it will take time to look through of all of that, but in it you will find gems of wisdom.

    Like this: animals DO NOT have souls.
  • Frank Garcia - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    Keep the faith continue to pray with a loving heart God knows everything and he hasn't forgotten you he loves you . I will pray for in the spirit let your example show others you are a child of God bless you.
  • Andy G van den Berg on 1 John 3:15
    On 1 John 3:1

    By nature every person is born in sin through the sinful seed of their natural fathers and conditioned therein (1 Peter 1:23). For that reason and in order to become a son of God, which are born of God, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, a person must be 'Born Again' (John 1:12,13; 3:3-7; 1 John 3:9; 5:4).

    By attending a man-made institution a few hours a week (Acts 7:48; 17:24), does not mean that a person can make a claim that they are followers of Christ and 'Born Again'. That is falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Galatians 4:8; Revelation 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:13-15).

    Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters (Romans 8:15,23; 2 Corinthians 6:18; Galatians 4:5; Ephesians 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).

    The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived (Revelation 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you (Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ (Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 3:3,5; Revelation 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it (Matthew 7:14).
  • Carleton - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    Good morning Andy, I suppose we all could copy, paste and post mostly the same scriptures on the comment page here on this website everyday, but how would that edify?

    Carleton
  • Mishael - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    Heavenly Father, I pray that you will cover this problem with your loving hand. While my mind is confused and struggles to find the right path, I know that you can heal any situation. Bring your peace and hope to my life. Hold me close to you so that my heart and mind may be kept safe. I pray that you will use the power of your truth to transform any darkness into your love and light. You are my fortress and my place of refuge. In times of difficulties, I turn to you for protection from harm. Thank you for protecting me and giving me all of my blessings in life. Amen.

    Read the Psalms David wrote in his later life. It helps me. They are songs and prayers. Your spirit needs to be fed on Gods Word right now.

    For help with your son, Proverbs helped me get through his teen years. When they're trying "to launch" it can be painful for both of you. Trust God and He'll get you through it.
  • Mishael - in Reply on 1 John 3:15
    To Carleton: It's 5:30 and I keep hearing this same song. It's for you. Search YouTube: Psalms 23, sung by Carl Davis. The Holy Spirit is singing it. Do not be afraid. Be wise.

    California is a divers place. I pray every year for Calif. firemen and they're families.

    I have a burden to pray for Calif. Tell your kids there are jobs in South Texas; around Austin. Tech jobs. Lots of construction industry: all kinds. Tesla is building here. Two million have moved here From California the past 2 years. East Texas has big pine forests. :)

    I don't know that much about Houston jobs.

    California is not going to repent.

    Pray much over this! Ok?


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