1 John Chapter 3 Discussion Page 6



 
  • DICK - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Have no fear of this scripture. believe it as you would any other scripture . believe christ has taken all your sin away. go back to verse one answer what your thinking about later verses. god has forgiven all your sins. the love of god is shed on us by forgiving all - all- your sins by placing christ in you and his righteousness , simply your record and refection before god the father looks perfect regardless of your actions. you now cannot stain christs righteousness. see vs 2 we shall be like him. vs 3 if your hope and faith is in christ your purity is like christs. vs 4 if you still think you transgress the law you break the law , therefore you should think christ has removed you from
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Verse 18, chapter 5, We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not, but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. V.19, And we know that we ARE OF GOD, and the whole world lieth in wickedness! Finishes the whole sin thing!!!
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    If you read the Bible correctly there are to be no future sins. 1 John v.2. Those who profess Christ have to grow in the Lord and sin not. Christ came to cancel. Read Romans chapters 5&6. Very clear. If one does not come to grips with plain scripture they are enjoying not only their ignorance of scripture but their sinful lifestyle.
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Actually, by the scripture that I have presented, it is clear that sin is to be irradicated from us. Whosoever abideth in him SINNETH NOT! That scripture is perfectly clear English. Whosoever sinneth, hath not seen him, neither known him. Again, perfectly clear English. Needs no explanation. We are to b complete in him. Whoever does not live in the power of the blood of Jesus Christ and doesn't revel n his salvation, us list for eternity. There are no sinners in heaven. One prominent group says one can b a sinner and b saved at the time of death. Gal 1:6-9 States that's another gospel which is not a gospel of Jesus Christ. There are no sinners in Heaven!!!
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 John 3
    This seems to be a common argument lately and I see no evidence it is from the Bible or God. Have you prayed to God for wisdom and clarification of this? Because to the vast majority of Christians the Bible in crystal clear English says Christians can and do sin. Even angels in heaven had the freewill to sin and that's what satan and his followers did. Isaiah 14:12, Ezekiel 28. If it was impossible for a Christian to sin today then why would Jesus spend so much time telling his followers specifically NOT to sin, but to obey? Are Christians robbed of freewill? No, they still can choose sin and often do. Some use grace as an excuse to enjoy sinning. John 14:15, John 3:36, 1 Cor 11:27-32.
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Adam, Even in the old testament the message always was be ye holy as I Am holy. 1 Peter 1 States be ye holy for I AM holy. Can a person be saintly sinner or sinning saint? Is there scripture for that? If so, please state so. I would like to know. One must read scripture and be doers, not just readers only. We aren't called, as followers of Jesus Christ, to b translators but hearers and doers of the word. Read 1 John 2:1. He says he writes these things that we should SIN NOT.
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Adam, 1John3:6, Whosever abideth in him SINNETH NOT, whosoever SINNETH hath not seen him neither known him. V.8, HE THAT COMMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL, for the devil sinneth from the beginning. So if a person is out committing sin, he is of the devil. For even that person has committed sins from his beginning. 1John 3:9, He that DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN is born of God. For His seed remaineth in him and he cannot sin because he is born of God. Very clear. Now a person should understand that Bible scripture does not fight itself, but is inline with every other scripture, tooting the same horn, as it were.
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Do you believe a Christian doesn't have the freewill to sin? If so that contradicts scripture. Have you considered that the reason 1 John 3:6 says whoever abideth doesn't sin is because a Christian is abiding, being obedient and deliberately choosing to avoid sin rather than assuming that a Christian can't sin, or assuming it's ok to sin because it's 'not really sin'? The latter is a lie from satan of course and satan deceives some Christians into believing sinning is ok, which it clearly is not. Jesus clearly said to avoid sin and be obedient. If Christians had no freewill and were robots then why would Jesus say so many times to be obedient? John 14:15 Those who justify sin don't love Jesus, do you agree?
  • Born Again and Perfected - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Perhaps the Scriptuers in my Comment will help you understand Adam what Wayne was seeking to share with you.

    God tells us to put our Carnal Flesh to Death.....Rom8:12-15 -2Cor7:1 - Col3:4-6 - Gal5:24-26 -1Jn3:2-4 -1Pet1:21-23 - 2Tim2:19-21 ........ God tells us that we are to Aim to be Perfected in His Love..... Matt5:48 - Heb6:1 - Phil3:14-16 - 2Tim3:17 - 1Jn4:16-19 - 1Jn2:4-6 - Col1:27-29 - 2Cor13:11 ....... God Tells us we will No Longer Sin when we are Born Again..... 1Jn3:1-11 - 1Jn5:18-20 - 1Jn2:28-29 - John8:34-36 - Rom6:1-23 - Rom8:1-4 - 1Pet2:24 - Eph4:23-24 - Luke6:45-46 -2Tim2:19-21- 2Cor7:1 - 1Pet1:21-23 - 1Jn2:4 - Jn9:31 - Titus2:13-15 - Dan12:10. Hope this helps.
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Adam, have you talked to a vast number of Christians? And what a vast number of Christians think about scripture has nothing to do about correctly understanding scripture. The angels in heaven have the freedom to to sin, as Lucifer, but it states the angels, in heaven, are not going around sinning. They are marching around the throne of God praising his glorious name. One has the option at all times to sin but Christ came to take away the penchant for sinning. Many scriptures. Read Romans chapters 5&6. The sin chapters. New person in Christ. Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid! How are we that are dead to sin continue there in?
  • Gods Truth is Confirmed For Us - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Very True Wayne but sadly many do not understand this Truth because it is not being Taught most Churches today and so Christians believe they will Sin until they die but it's OK because they are under Grace and as God tells us what we believe or think is True we will do and so they do. There are many Scriptures that Confirm we don't Continue to Sin when we are Born Again of Gods Seed including the ones you shared Wayne and it was Taught in the early Church as we see with Pauls own Testimony as he aimed to be Perfect as others in the Church were and he was before he died and so received the Crown of Righteousness and so can we. It would good Wayne to Pray with you for Gods Lost Sheep today.
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    If a "Christian" wants to or is out sinning then said Christian is not a Christian. The Bible calls said a child of Satan. Does that person have freedom to sin? Sure. But real Christians, followers of Jesus Christ, have had the need to sin removed from themselves and keep themselves from the wicked one. Satan, the father of all sinners, as the Bible clearly states.
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Do do you yourself claim to be sinless? Do you not need grace anymore, because you're 100% sinless and perfect as a Christian?
  • Gods Truth Does Not Change on 1 John 3
    Psalm94:23 And He shall bring upon them their own iniquity... Romans 8:12 Therefore Brethren we are debtors not to the flesh to live after the flesh for if ye live after the flesh ye shall die but if ye through The Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body ye shall Live For as many as are Led by The Spirit of God they are the Sons of God. 1John3:9 Whosoever is Born of God doth not Sin.....
  • Randy on 1 John 3
    And he staggered not at the promise of GOD through unbelief, but was strong in faith, giving glory to GOD. Being fully persuaded that what GOD had promised, HE was also able to perform it! Believe Jesus Fully!
  • Randy on 1 John 3
    Neil...maybe sin isn't what we do, but what we believe! after all, didn't jesus say he took away all of our sin...as far as the east is from the west??? doesn't the bible say, "while we were yet sinners, christ died for us!" doesn't it say born again believer does not sin...cannot sin! should we not take him at his word? wouldn't it be wonderful to be free from sin, to be righteous ...all because of him! thankyou jesus!!!
  • Being Born Again - in Reply on 1 John 3
    True Randy no where in Scripture does it say we continue to Sin untill we die if we are Born Again of God's Seed He tells us to Work out our Salvation not meaning work for it to put our Carnal flesh to death by The Spirit Rom8:15-2Tim2:19-21- Col3:4-6 to bePerfect like He is Mt5:48 -Heb6:1 we will No longer Sin Read all of 1Jn3 and -5:18-20-2:28-29-Jn8:34-36 All Rom6 Dan12:10 there are Many More.
  • Deacon Roger Lemm - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Sin is sa Huge Term...Means Falling Short of God's Perfection...We Sin because We are All Sinners to the Day We Die...Best Read Galatians and 1st Cor....Shows 2 Classes of Man...Natural , Carnal and Spiritual....Unsave is Natural...The Saved have a DSual Nature ..Carnal from The Old Life and Spiritual Holiness from God....We are to Kill The Old Man and Walk in The New Man...also Read 1st John ONE
  • Wayne Tucker - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Whosever abideth in him sinneth not, whosever sinneth hath not seen him neither known him. V.#6. He that committeth sin is of the devil for the devil sinneth from the beginning, for this purpose the son of God was manifest, that he might destroy the works of the devil, v#8. Scripture is pretty clear on sin. You sin, you looze!!! You sin, you're a child of Satan!!! You looze!!! You looze now and you pay for your own sins. The wages of sin is death. A Christian is to he a new creature in Christ. No child of God is a sinner! Preposterous! Be ye holy for I am holy. Thus saith the Lord. Those who say they are sinners are enjoying their sinful ways! They're going to hell!!! Don't doubt it!!!
  • Neil MacEwan on 1 John 3
    Re sin Some concordances describe 2 types of sin 1 the sin nature we inherit from Adam denoted by hamartia in the Greek of the NT , the basic principle from which we draw when we miss the mark , and 2 the sins we commit Hamartia occurs more than about 20 X more often than the sins we commit If we confess our sin s , He is faithful and just to forgive us our sin s and cleanse us from all unrighteousness ....1John 1:9 uses hamartia in both cases..what a shock that was to me when I discovered that In other words, we have been set free from the sin nature?....and NOT the sins we commit! Someone, please clarify this for me. Neil in Canada
  • Ijeoma 4 christ on 1 John 3
    let brotherly love continued in Christ Jesus, and let it be seen in our deed
  • Randy on 1 John 3
    We are slaves to what we obey. Jesus and His Righteousness or sin. So beings 'sin is all unrighteousness'.....we must "stop" sinning to be made Righteous in Christ. Holy to the LORD!
  • Marie WASHINGTON on 1 John 3
    In verse 8, it states that The devil sinned from the beginning. So does that mean God created the devil to sin?
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 John 3
    I don't believe God created anyone to sin, but he gave everyone freewill. I think people can get hung up on the all-knowing aspect of God to the point where they think he creates evil and I do not believe that. There are even instances in the Bible of God changing his mind, so I think God allows himself to see things unfold on our timeline. I don't believe our actions are predestined.
  • I am - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Nay. Ye do speak confusion. For it is written in the Holy Scriptures, I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate TO BE conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
  • God is Love and Love Cannot Do Evil - in Reply on 1 John 3
    Ps94:23 And He shall bring upon them their own iniquity and shall cut them off in their Own Wickedness yea The LORD our God shall cut them off...
    To Understand Gods Truth lam and not just Trust in what we or others think Scripture means we need to ask for Gods Wisdom Prov4:7 and not doubt we have received it Jas1:5-8 and by the Empowering of The Holy Spirit 1Cor2:9-16 we will understand Luke11:13.
  • God is Good - in Reply on 1 John 3
    I agree with you Adam that God like He did with us He gave Satan free will and he chose to continue to do evi 314 . Some ask than why did God knowing Satan would do evil create him. If we didn't have a choice than we would be puppets and God can use for good what Satan means for evil. Hell is needed for those who do evil without Repentance. Satan will be thrown into the Lake of Fire for Eternity too.
  • Predestined in Love and For Love - in Reply on 1 John 3
    All Good things come from God but His Motivation is not always understood even that the World Wide Flood was Loving and Merciful Those of us that our Abba Father has Chosen and Predestined to be Conformed into the Image of Jesus Rom8 He knew from the beginning what our Heart Focus would be including that we would never rejectJesus who is the only way to Him because They are One in Spirit 1Jn4and5.
  • Wayne Tucker on 1 John 3
    I've talked to people who do not like v. 6. They have listened to other religionists who have a spin on the scripture, not of God. That which NB it says is as it means. Believe.


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