1 John Chapter 1 Discussion



 
  • Mona on 1 John 1
    In I John 1:1, what is the difference in the Greek between, "which we have seen with our eyes" and "which we have looked upon" OR is John just repeating himself for emphasis???
  • S Spencer - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Hi Mona.

    I believe it means to Look closely upon, to examine or observe.

    Greek:

    Transliteration: theaomai

    Pronunciation: theh-ah'-om-ahee

    Definition: A prolonged form of a primary verb; to look closely at that is (by implication) to perceive (literally or figuratively); by extension to visit : - behold look (upon) see. Compare G3700 .

    I hope that helps.

    God bless.
  • Leon on 1 John 1
    I cannot understand how -expletive that called themselves find it so hard to believe in their hearts that Jesus is also God . Jesus himself says that he is God . Read from John chapter 8 verses 54 -59 . Jesus answered the Jews saying if I honour myself my honour is nothing it is my Father that honoureth me of whom you say that he is your God yet you have not known him but I kimonos him and if should say that I know him not I shall be a liar like unto you :but I know him and keep his saying .your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day and he saw it and was glad, then said the Jews unto Jesus thou are not yet fifty years old and has thou seen Abraham ?Jesus said unto them Before Abraham was I AM.

    here in John chapter 8 verse 58 . Jesus our lord and savior declared who he truly is God the great I am .



    Even to the prophet Isaiah in chapter 9 verse 6 declared That Jesus is the mighty God and the everlasting Father .
  • Adam - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Dear Leon,

    Looks like you've had people replying and offering fake news. I'm sorry you had to receive that. Their positions are mostly based on a human logical fallacy, for example: "Jesus is the son of God, therefore in my limited human mind, Jesus can't be God, despite the many verses saying He is": Link

    Also, the name "God" can refer to God the Father or God the trinity. The trinity is clearly explained in the Bible: Link - God is plural in many cases and uses the pronoun "we": Genesis 1:26.

    Others spread anti-Christian propaganda that the trinity is somehow polytheism, which is another hateful attack based on a lie. Just because someone has a hard time comprehending how they are "one" (John 10:30) doesn't mean 'more than one'. It clearly says they are one God. That's like someone assuming the skin of an orange, the pulp, and seeds are 3 oranges.

    So, once someone reads the Word they can choose to either believe it or not. Those who don't want to believe the trinity have to perform mental gymnastics to try to discredit the book, the author, the context, the intent, the Greek, etc. It's the same old trick and most of us don't buy into it.

    We will believe God's Word over man's words any day. We believe the Word is God's truth and when we read literally that Jesus is the Word and John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" then we have faith and believe it says exactly what it means, without anyone trying to be cute and deceive otherwise. We will lovingly call out fake news, propaganda, and false prophets everytime we see it.

    Please ignore anyone trying to undermine what the Bible says and trying to discredit Jesus. Anyone trying to do that should be ashamed of themselves and should beware of doing the devil's work.

    God bless...
  • Bob - in Reply on 1 John 1
    John 8 v , 18,19 , 29 , 42

    V 54

    Jesus gives credit to his father as being His source , makes perfect sense that Jesus is Gods son .

    Many other examples in the Bible Jesus gives God the credit for who he is and where he came from . Jesus is the Son of God .
  • Sacha - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Bob ,yes ! Thankyou !
  • Bob - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Jesus asked the his disciples, who do you say I am ?

    Peter got it right when he said the Christ , son of the living God . Jesus said he was taught by God and blessed for knowing this .

    Jesus never said IAM GOD , but that I came from GOD , so he is Gods son .

    Being one with God is a relationship . We also can have this relationship, read John 17 .
  • Carleton - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Hello Bob, These scriptures in Luke came to mind.

    Luke 3:36-38

    Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem which was the son of Noe, Which was the son of Mathusula, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
  • Bob - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Yes Adam was made in the image of God

    Jesus was made in the image of God .

    Jesus is the second Adam a Quickening spirit .

    The first Adam was a living soul .

    God is father of all .
  • Carleton - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Hello Bob, is there a difference between Adam as the son of God and believers as sons of God and Jesus the Son of God as written in the scriptures? In my heart , there is a reason for the capitalization.
  • Bob - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Yes there certainly is a difference, yet God is father of all .
  • Just say no to heritics on 1 John 1
    I Love the word of God , it is strength to those that believe and Trust it .

    It will keep you from evil at all levels .
  • Robert D Taylor on 1 John 1
    Where is Samariah, wife of Nimrod mentioned in the Bible (Also Tammuz, their son).
  • Hilda on 1 John 1
    My Lord My God Thank you for saving me.
  • Randy on 1 John 1
    How did God reveal all this too us in these verses in 1 John ch 1

    Through his Son Jesus . Verse 3, and 7 .

    Keep it all in context . God gave us his Son to lead us to Himself .

    Jesus is not the word , but the sent word , yes by God .
  • Alex on 1 John 1
    I just wanna say i thank God for a site like this where we can come and voice our opinions about the Scriptures, The KJV. I think that is something precious specially for an older man like myself where there is no Church around . gbu all you at KJV BIBLE ONLINE .
  • Brandon on 1 John 1
    John chapter one is showing how God works through his son , not that the Son is God but The Son of God Jesus is Gods way of reaching men . Jesus is Gods instrument not Jesus being God and acting as God only can . It's the father working through the Son .
  • Dc - in Reply on 1 John 1
    So sorry for typo...

    Verse 4 John chapter 1

    4 ) In him was life, and that *life* was the light of men.
  • Dc - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Oh please... Read the gospel of John.

    The Bible is the true inerrant Word of God. It says in John 1:

    1 ) In the begginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 ) He was with God in the beginning.

    3 ) Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

    4 ) In him was life, and that light was the light of men.

    5 ) The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

    God is a triune being:

    Father

    Son

    Holy Spirit

    Three persons but One God.

    Jesus the Son spoke the universe into existence. Jesus is the Word. Jesus has many names. God has many names.

    We must be careful to not lead people astray. We should only comment on God and the Bible by using scripture to support our beliefs.

    With love and prayers,
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 1
    The Son may not be God the Father, but He has all the attributes of the Father, which makes Him intrinsically & indivisibly part of the Godhead. After all, if the Word of God (that which proceeds from the Mouth of God), was given flesh (humanity), then it stands to reason that this Humanity (now called Jesus, God's Son) comes directly from the Godhead.

    God could have done the same with His Spirit within Him, but the requirement for His Word that went out to His people (the Jews) by the prophets (Hebrews 1:1,2), would now not only have God speaking directly to them rather than the prophets which they generally rejected, but that Word would even lay down His Life for them. And for this, Israel remains condemned by God for rejecting Him (i.e. the Father & Son).
  • Brandon - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Do you have a son Chris ?

    If you trained him up well , he would be just as you are , yet not you . You are head over your son and always will be .
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 John 1
    You're right Brandon, I could do everything possible for my son to be like me in character, spiritual awareness & direction in life & even if I succeeded, he would still always be my son, a separate human being in his own right.

    But one cannot hold to such thinking of God, compelling Him to replicate or be confined to the limitations & humanness of our minds & ways. He is the One from Whom it was written that He could create out of stones, children unto Abraham (Luke 3:8). If we think in human terms, then yes, Jesus is only a (created) Son of God. If we abide by the Scriptures, then Jesus Who is the Image of the Invisible God, is more than a 'spittin image' of the Father - He has the very Image, Character, Essence of God's Holiness & Being, of the Father, having proceeded from Him. And that is why John 1:1-14 becomes a very difficult passage for non-trinitarians, because they can never give another explanation to it, as its declaration is abundantly clear: the Word that came from God became flesh. And apart from Jesus, I don't think that those verses could apply to any other.
  • Ron - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Isaiah 9:6

    "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
  • Dc - in Reply on 1 John 1
    Ron, Thank you for this reference.

    Brandon, i hope this helps you have faith in Jesus as "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" and, therefore, part of the Godhead.
  • Sudhakar on 1 John 1
    seeing and hearing determines our fellowship.

    never see nor hear things that damage our fellowship with Christ.

    see( the life of jesus) and hear things that enhance our fellowship with Christ.
  • Oluwole on 1 John 1-8 on 1 John 1:8
    Is it possible for a Christian live a perfect life of no sin
  • Rob - in Reply on 1 John 1:8
    With God all things are possible, said Jesus .

    With out God there is not a man that has not sinned . Said Solomon in the Old Testament.

    Practicing sinners don't go to heaven .

    There is forgiveness, and you must be born again of the Holy Spirit . This can be found at the cross , can you die to everything and follow Jesus ? This is the meaning of baptism. There is a cost . It's not easy believing only . But it's through faith not works . You must know who Jesus is , He is the son of God sent into this world to save sinners by the Father that loved the whole world that they may be saved by total obedience to turn from sinning and to God by faith in Jesus for what he did on the cross on your behalf .

    Except his death and leave your sins there with him on the cross and except new life in Him by his resurrection life that is now yours freely to live with out sin . But you still have a sinful flesh nature , but you are not under it's domain by faith . Weak faith struggles with the flesh .

    Apostle Paul said the cross is the power of God to those that believe.

    More could be said I hope this helps . But God must lead you in repentance first and draw you to Christ or it will never work . Earnest prayer is a good place to begin seeking Gods mercy . He desires that all would be saved so He is on your side ! I'm very thankful for His love . And patience with me ! Amen I hope this helps someone !
  • Names of Jesus - in Reply on 1 John 1:8
    This is the skinny on that question. Mankind was perfect until Adam and Eve sinned. All people's born after them were born into original sin. They still were not perfect after the flood.

    Jesus was born the sinless Lamb of God. All God, and all man; yet without sin. Not once did He sin, on his way to the Cross. That's why the shedding of his sinless blood was an acceptable Atonement for sinful mankind. God is a consuming fire and He cannot even look upon sin. He poured out His wrath on Jesus, on the Cross. Jesus took that for every person.

    God gave his Son, because He longed to show his love to all the world. What Jesus did, gave us all the ability to receive the Free Gift of salvation from our sins.

    The Holy Spirit tells us everything we need to know about being saved. He teaches and reveals Jesus to us.

    Jesus existed before Genesis, and all time since then: His Name was The Word of God, and still is one of His many names. When He was born in Bethlehem, his name was Immanuel: " God With Us."

    Blessed Christmas, Mishael
  • Rob - in Reply on 1 John 1:8
    "All God and all man " one of the most strangest explanations of Who the Lord Jesus Christ is , I have ever heard .

    I have a glass that is all full of water , get the point ?

    If Jesus was All God then God left the throne and walked among us ?

    Jesus is Gods son born of God and Mary , the correct explanation of who Jesus is .
  • Steven Spencer - in Reply on 1 John 1:8
    No its not, read Romans Ch 7, THE KEY WORD IS PERFECT, we want be perfect until the Lord rid us of these sinful bodies. mans thoughts is sinful.


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