It is more inspiring to know your favorite epistles because you must be working in your own holiness as well. Your Godly testimony and the testimony of all saints that are here on earth are what the world needs today. We are in the perilous times. We need to be in one accord in one body of Christ. Every member is important. A Family is the smallest unit of a society. The family that prays together stays together. This site is a family that reads the Word of God. There maybe differences of opinions because of the traditions of men or for whatever reason it may be. We continue to pray because the Lord God in Heaven is already alive in us. We are dead in our body as Christ died. We are baptized by His death and yet we are alive in Spirit. Every word we speak must edify a person. Your response lift up my soul in heaven and willing and still able to do more for God; and my prayers will always be to keep you and yours and all saints from any harm this world brings. Thank you for your fellowship. Ephesians 1:4
1 Corinthians 4:5 speaks volume to us since saints understand the mysteries revealed to the faithful and Romans 1:6 & Romans 8:28. For saints know Isaiah 5:20. We are where we are today. God is so great to allow us to do things in life in our own free will where in the end The Glory belongs to God. God allowed me to have worked with great scientists in America with great heart. I do not need to understand and question everything at the spare of the moment. I just know the paths God lead me in was not to question authorities in the land. God has the heavenly plans and those are what I am and every saint must be very excited about. When you walk in the Spirit of God, you are like in a trance. Next thing you know someone tells you on earth job well done. Not to boast but again and again to Glorify God because He helped you to do job well done. I can control only me and hopefully have a strong influence with my family and friends and anybody that touches my life to follow God as I walk the walk and talk the talk. Even 1 Timothy 5:4 saints take it to heart. All is good with God James 1:17 and all are Your's 1 Corinthians 3:21-23. I know It is easy said and done here on earth. We all have afflictions and to some unbearable 2 Corinthians 6:4. I thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ for that power is in everyone who put his trust, faith and believe in that He will never leaves you. Psalms 91 memorize!
The Spirit speaks to you 1 Peter 3:13, 3 John 1:11. Be in Spirit so you can 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:15. Philippians 2:13 and Ephesians 1:9. Saints, Ephesians 4:29
There are more heavenly things I can share but I like to inspire you with this testimony Colossians 1:27. Let us all grow in true Charity 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, the bond of perfectness Colossians 3:14. In conclusion 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. Happy Sunday with the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to ALL.
1Corinthians 4, understanding 1st pray & read: James 1:5,
1Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of CHRIST, and the stewards of the mysteries of GOD." references: Mark 4:11, in context Mark 4:1-34, Romans 11:25, Romans 16:25-27, Ephesians 3, Revelation 10:7, some Old Testament references: Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Zechariah 13:6, Leviticus 16:17, John 19,
Precious friends, thanks for your Valuable? input - did they help 'Solve the Confusion'?:
"the effect of religious not quite rightly divided thinking, communism started after Carl Marx read" Reading Carl Marx does not Solve the reigning 'Confusion' of water today...
"there's only 1 simple option: to be baptized acts 2:38Isaiah 7:16"
Again, does not 'Solve the Confusion,' but assumes water is "God's ONE Baptism" which IS in effect today, OR: 'Assumes' "Christ baptizes WITH The Holy Ghost" as HIS 'ONE' baptism today? Assumptions don't 'Solve Confusion'...
"obedience and submission, two key words that are not often used these days" Again, another 'assumption' water is in effect, and 'implying obey it or else'... Again, Not 'Solved'...
"a story yesterday that people are flocking to be water baptized...We have the Holy Spirit to help us with the New Birth. Ask Him." Is a 'story' God's Sound Doctrine? Yes, TRUE, The Holy Spirit IS The Teacher, ask Him, 'And' Be Taught By "comparing Scriptural 'Evidence' With ALL SCRIPTURAL 'Evidence,' Correct? Or, just wait to 'hear an Audible Voice' for an answer???
"such an easy command of Christ and expected practice in the apostolic church times to obey. Perhaps many bristle at the thought of any sort of rite or formality in Christian practice." Again, assumptions and accusations bring us No Closer To God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Solving the Confusion' of 10 DIFFERENT 'traditions/rites/practices' of Confused christendom...
Part II God's ONE Baptism Is NOT 'water,' But, IS 'Spiritual'
Conclusion, the question for "2/3 baptismS 'water' adherents" was Not 'answered,' but, God's 'Answer' From ALL Of HIS Scriptural 'Evidence' IS:
"There is 'ONE' Baptism" Ephesians 4:51 Corinthians 12:13 ('Spiritual' NOT water...): Link
( 2 Timothy 2:15Romans 16:25Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,? )
Precious friends, Please Be 'Richly' Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And EDIFIED In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In HIS Word Of TRUTH, Rightly Divided ('Approved' Unto HIM!)
I believe there's only 1 simple option: to be baptized. This shall be done according to the example in the Bible which were people old enough to know right from wrong and to believe, and they were immersed in water. I suppose someone could try to complicate this, but I don't believe following the example in the Bible is complicated.
GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} watered-down Doctrine? on 1 Corinthians 4 - 2 years ago
Ephesians 4:5 ...ONE Baptism... Precious friends, why is that God's 'Sound' Doctrine, Today, Under God's Amazing GRACE, is being 'Changed' Into TWO baptismS? I believe "God is Not the author of All of the following 'Confusion/Division'" 1 Corinthians 14:33 over water baptism - 10 'Different' kinds of 'traditions' in religious denominations - and the question for "TWO baptismS 'water' adherents" is, which of the following do you Sincerely believe is God's reason you should 'practice this tradition' today, Under GRACE?:
1) believe AND be baptized {i.e. immersion to contact their Christ's blood}?
2) immersion with a symbolic interpretation?
3) immersion ONCE in the "name of Jesus?
4) immersion THRICE in the "name of the Triune Godhead?
5) immersion {whether once or thrice} for "membership" in their traditional assembly?
6) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into religion washing away their original sin?
7) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into some covenant?
8) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into their parent's custody that they promise to raise them right? {into Mass Confusion?}
9) sprinkling water on babies, admitting that their ritual is UNscriptural, but "we do it anyway, because it is OUR tradition!"?
10) pouring water onto babies or adults for Whatever traditional reason religion "can come up with"?
Precious friends, to date no one has shown Plainly And Clearly, From Scriptures, which one
of these traditions God Commands for those of us who believe in The BLOOD And The Resurrection of The LORD JESUS CHRIST!
Would not this 'Confusion' be from the enemy, and "Not from God" 1 Corinthians 14:33 ?
Why are very few 'interested' in "studying This Issue Rightly Divided" in order to find The Real Truth From God's HOLY Word?
Thus, I believe and have spoken - I was once a 'proud denominationalist' but God Caused me to repent, When He Led me to HIS Truth.
Hello Victor. In support of this verse 15, the apostle has gone to some length to remind the Corinthian Church of his position among them: though as an apostle to them & one who brought the Gospel to Corinth, his status was just the opposite than what would be expected. He, as the other apostles were actually very deprived of life's offerings (vv 9-13) being made the "filth of the world & are the offscouring of all things"; & they bore these things because of the Gospel & the relationship they had to those who received it.
Paul had come to Corinth during his second missionary journey (around AD 50) & through his ministry the Church was formed. The Church during his absence would have had elders appointed, and those with gifts of teaching & ministry had input into their lives. The word for "instructors" in Greek is 'paidagogos', which is rendered 'tutors, teachers, guardians'. Paul uses hyperbole in saying "ten thousand instructors..not many fathers", which of course means that the Church wasn't deficient in that area (though as it would be the case, that some there would have taught error). In spite of being so equipped & rich in substance (v 8), they had only one father in the Gospel because it was only through his ministry & his love & care for them, that gave him that familial right which no other could claim.
And then in verse 16, he says, "be ye followers of me". I detect that because of the internal division & wranglings within the Church, Paul again states that as a father who brought them the Truth (i.e. birthed Christ in them), to follow his teaching & example & not give place to anyone else who teaches otherwise. And to this end, he had sent Timothy to them.
The Bible from Romans - Jude are written to the people /churches that came from the book of Acts. These are those that are saved, baptized & Holy Ghost filled.
Kathy, may the Spirit grace you with His wisdom and His understanding.
2 Corinthians 1:22 Who (Christ) has SEALED us, and given us the earnest (down payment) of the Spirit in our heart.
Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel (CHRIST IN YOU) of your salvation: in whom also after that you BELIEVED, you were SEALED with the holy Spirit of promise.
(vs 14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
At the redemption (the death of the body of flesh) you will be given the Spirit without measure and a glorified body.
1 Peter 1:21 Who (you) by him (Christ) do BELIEVE in God, that raised him from the dead, and gave him glory; that your FAITH (CHRIST) and hope might be in God.
CHRIST IN YOU
Galatians 2:16 .....but by the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have BELIEVED (by his faith) in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the FAITH of Jesus Christ.....
Romans 8:29 For whom (you) he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he (CHRIST IN YOU) might be the first born of MANY BROTHERS.
I love these chapters one my flesh and all flesh is prideful if we know anything spiritual it was revealed by God through his Spirit He wants us to be unified we are nothing God makes the increase Help me to stay humble
Thank you for your response, What I'm talking about are changes being made to the KJV Bible. In this instance, it used to say Brother. Yes I get the figure of speech of course. There are numerous changes. Take John 3:16 for one: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him (should not) perish, but have everlasting life. It originally said: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him "shall not" perish, but have everlasting life." Should and Shall are two different meanings. There are others but probably should be talked about on the right thread according to the right book.
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home .
Do you not get that figures of speech are not satanic changes in the Bible.
Jesus knew Mary was NOT the mother of John and yet he said Behold thy Mother
Timothy was Paul's SON in the faith. Mark Chapter 3: 32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
33 And he (Jesus) answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
RE: 1Cor. 4:3-5...Perhaps this is reminder to NOT judge ea other or oneself, because perhaps Paul is fully aware of the job that 'accuser of the brethren' already does, by accusing the brethren n ourselves before God day n night, it says. We need to remember who n whose we are in Christ!
1 Cor 4:15 We need more Fathers to disciple the younger generation of people coming into the churches...like I heard once, a Shepherd has to be able to get close enough to the sheep to get ticks off..Paul n Jesus n gang hung out in homes 2gether, no clicks, no programs-1 big happy fam of God..knew ea other by name! The division 2day is sad..They"ll know were His disciples by our love! Not knowledg
1 Corinthians 4: 3-5 are some of the MOST freeing verses I think I've read! It's telling us stop judging each other n ourselves because we don't know the motives for our actions, n only G-d sees our hearts, our intent! What a merciful heavenly Father! And speaking of Fathers, I also love verse 15, where I believe he is expounding on the importance of relationship in churches, not just pew warming!
I'm trying to read KJV. Really strange words 'the filth of the world' are worth thinking about. We, "the best of the world" can be 'the filth', or, thinking about ourselves too high can't see anything, that we are loved, and only look and ask for 'carnal'.? Funny. Let's look for meekness withourt spirit - and we will find arrogance, How to understand and interiorate these words. Thank you.
It is more inspiring to know your favorite epistles because you must be working in your own holiness as well. Your Godly testimony and the testimony of all saints that are here on earth are what the world needs today. We are in the perilous times. We need to be in one accord in one body of Christ. Every member is important. A Family is the smallest unit of a society. The family that prays together stays together. This site is a family that reads the Word of God. There maybe differences of opinions because of the traditions of men or for whatever reason it may be. We continue to pray because the Lord God in Heaven is already alive in us. We are dead in our body as Christ died. We are baptized by His death and yet we are alive in Spirit. Every word we speak must edify a person. Your response lift up my soul in heaven and willing and still able to do more for God; and my prayers will always be to keep you and yours and all saints from any harm this world brings. Thank you for your fellowship. Ephesians 1:4
In Christ.
1 Corinthians 4:5 speaks volume to us since saints understand the mysteries revealed to the faithful and Romans 1:6 & Romans 8:28. For saints know Isaiah 5:20. We are where we are today. God is so great to allow us to do things in life in our own free will where in the end The Glory belongs to God. God allowed me to have worked with great scientists in America with great heart. I do not need to understand and question everything at the spare of the moment. I just know the paths God lead me in was not to question authorities in the land. God has the heavenly plans and those are what I am and every saint must be very excited about. When you walk in the Spirit of God, you are like in a trance. Next thing you know someone tells you on earth job well done. Not to boast but again and again to Glorify God because He helped you to do job well done. I can control only me and hopefully have a strong influence with my family and friends and anybody that touches my life to follow God as I walk the walk and talk the talk. Even 1 Timothy 5:4 saints take it to heart. All is good with God James 1:17 and all are Your's 1 Corinthians 3:21-23. I know It is easy said and done here on earth. We all have afflictions and to some unbearable 2 Corinthians 6:4. I thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ for that power is in everyone who put his trust, faith and believe in that He will never leaves you. Psalms 91 memorize!
The Spirit speaks to you 1 Peter 3:13, 3 John 1:11. Be in Spirit so you can 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:15. Philippians 2:13 and Ephesians 1:9. Saints, Ephesians 4:29
There are more heavenly things I can share but I like to inspire you with this testimony Colossians 1:27. Let us all grow in true Charity 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, the bond of perfectness Colossians 3:14. In conclusion 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. Happy Sunday with the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to ALL.
1Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of CHRIST, and the stewards of the mysteries of GOD." references: Mark 4:11, in context Mark 4:1-34, Romans 11:25, Romans 16:25-27, Ephesians 3, Revelation 10:7, some Old Testament references: Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Zechariah 13:6, Leviticus 16:17, John 19,
Romans 14:12 : reference for several
1Corinthians 4:2, references: Titus 1:7,
1Corinthians 4:3-4, ref: Romans 8:33, Isaiah 50:8, Jude 1:24-25, Romans 14:13, Psalms 98:9,
1Corinthians 4:5, ref: Matthew 25:31-46, Hebrews 10:30, 2Thessalonians 2,
1Corinthians 4:6,7,8, ref: 1Corinthians 12, Deuteronomy 8:18, Psalms 75:6-7, John 19:11,
1Corinthians 4:9-14, Hebrews 11,
Hopefully these are helpful
Precious friends, thanks for your Valuable? input - did they help 'Solve the Confusion'?:
"the effect of religious not quite rightly divided thinking, communism started after Carl Marx read" Reading Carl Marx does not Solve the reigning 'Confusion' of water today...
"there's only 1 simple option: to be baptized acts 2:38 Isaiah 7:16"
Again, does not 'Solve the Confusion,' but assumes water is "God's ONE Baptism" which IS in effect today, OR: 'Assumes' "Christ baptizes WITH The Holy Ghost" as HIS 'ONE' baptism today? Assumptions don't 'Solve Confusion'...
"obedience and submission, two key words that are not often used these days" Again, another 'assumption' water is in effect, and 'implying obey it or else'... Again, Not 'Solved'...
"a story yesterday that people are flocking to be water baptized...We have the Holy Spirit to help us with the New Birth. Ask Him." Is a 'story' God's Sound Doctrine? Yes, TRUE, The Holy Spirit IS The Teacher, ask Him, 'And' Be Taught By "comparing Scriptural 'Evidence' With ALL SCRIPTURAL 'Evidence,' Correct? Or, just wait to 'hear an Audible Voice' for an answer???
"such an easy command of Christ and expected practice in the apostolic church times to obey. Perhaps many bristle at the thought of any sort of rite or formality in Christian practice." Again, assumptions and accusations bring us No Closer To God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Solving the Confusion' of 10 DIFFERENT 'traditions/rites/practices' of Confused christendom...
to be continued in Part II Conclusion...
Conclusion, the question for "2/3 baptismS 'water' adherents" was Not 'answered,' but, God's 'Answer' From ALL Of HIS Scriptural 'Evidence' IS:
"There is 'ONE' Baptism" Ephesians 4:5 1 Corinthians 12:13 ('Spiritual' NOT water...): Link
( 2 Timothy 2:15 Romans 16:25 Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,? )
Precious friends, Please Be 'Richly' Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And EDIFIED In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In HIS Word Of TRUTH, Rightly Divided ('Approved' Unto HIM!)
2 Timothy 2:15
I believe there's only 1 simple option: to be baptized. This shall be done according to the example in the Bible which were people old enough to know right from wrong and to believe, and they were immersed in water. I suppose someone could try to complicate this, but I don't believe following the example in the Bible is complicated.
acts 2:38, Isaiah 7:16
the gospels and that's what he got out of it. He also made the statement religion meaning man made is the opiate of
the people no wonder in Mathew 15:1-9 sounds like whats going on today good looking hypocritical no genuine love
doctrines of men with no effect. Gods Word correctly used always has an impact, to the unbeliever terror for the believer
awe and respect! God Bless Our Genuine love heals broken hearts.
1) believe AND be baptized {i.e. immersion to contact their Christ's blood}?
2) immersion with a symbolic interpretation?
3) immersion ONCE in the "name of Jesus?
4) immersion THRICE in the "name of the Triune Godhead?
5) immersion {whether once or thrice} for "membership" in their traditional assembly?
6) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into religion washing away their original sin?
7) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into some covenant?
8) sprinkling water on babies inducting them into their parent's custody that they promise to raise them right? {into Mass Confusion?}
9) sprinkling water on babies, admitting that their ritual is UNscriptural, but "we do it anyway, because it is OUR tradition!"?
10) pouring water onto babies or adults for Whatever traditional reason religion "can come up with"?
Precious friends, to date no one has shown Plainly And Clearly, From Scriptures, which one
of these traditions God Commands for those of us who believe in The BLOOD And The Resurrection of The LORD JESUS CHRIST!
Would not this 'Confusion' be from the enemy, and "Not from God" 1 Corinthians 14:33 ?
Why are very few 'interested' in "studying This Issue Rightly Divided" in order to find The Real Truth From God's HOLY Word?
Thus, I believe and have spoken - I was once a 'proud denominationalist' but God Caused me to repent, When He Led me to HIS Truth.
ONE Baptism: Link
Paul had come to Corinth during his second missionary journey (around AD 50) & through his ministry the Church was formed. The Church during his absence would have had elders appointed, and those with gifts of teaching & ministry had input into their lives. The word for "instructors" in Greek is 'paidagogos', which is rendered 'tutors, teachers, guardians'. Paul uses hyperbole in saying "ten thousand instructors..not many fathers", which of course means that the Church wasn't deficient in that area (though as it would be the case, that some there would have taught error). In spite of being so equipped & rich in substance (v 8), they had only one father in the Gospel because it was only through his ministry & his love & care for them, that gave him that familial right which no other could claim.
And then in verse 16, he says, "be ye followers of me". I detect that because of the internal division & wranglings within the Church, Paul again states that as a father who brought them the Truth (i.e. birthed Christ in them), to follow his teaching & example & not give place to anyone else who teaches otherwise. And to this end, he had sent Timothy to them.
how to understand "ten thousand instructors, ... not many fathers" here?
who are instructors and fathers?
2 Corinthians 1:22 Who (Christ) has SEALED us, and given us the earnest (down payment) of the Spirit in our heart.
Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel (CHRIST IN YOU) of your salvation: in whom also after that you BELIEVED, you were SEALED with the holy Spirit of promise.
(vs 14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
At the redemption (the death of the body of flesh) you will be given the Spirit without measure and a glorified body.
1 Peter 1:21 Who (you) by him (Christ) do BELIEVE in God, that raised him from the dead, and gave him glory; that your FAITH (CHRIST) and hope might be in God.
CHRIST IN YOU
Galatians 2:16 .....but by the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have BELIEVED (by his faith) in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the FAITH of Jesus Christ.....
Romans 8:29 For whom (you) he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he (CHRIST IN YOU) might be the first born of MANY BROTHERS.
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home .
Do you not get that figures of speech are not satanic changes in the Bible.
Jesus knew Mary was NOT the mother of John and yet he said Behold thy Mother
33 And he (Jesus) answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.