1 Corinthians Chapter 14 Discussion

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  • Mary Smalls on 1 Corinthians 14
    Why is it some churches permit speaking in tongue and some do not?
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14
    God bless you sister Mary

    There have been different movements in Church history.

    From about 1500 we have the Lutheran churches who just believe that you are saved by faith, and do not need to live a holy life. From about 1700 we have the Wesleyan churches who believe you must also live a holy life. From about 1900 we have the Pentecostal churches which believe that after faith, and holiness, comes the Holy Ghost as a seperate event in your life.

    These latter churches would emphasize speaking in tongues. Some even go so far as to say that speaking in tongues is the evidence of the Holy Ghost baptism. That is not true thought; Jesus said that when the Holy Ghost comes He will teach us in all things. So the evidence for the Holy Spirit is to accept the truth when it comes to you.

    Peace & Love in Christ
  • Mishael Part 2 - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26

    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

    Pray this prayer with sincerity of heart

    "Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life through the gift of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."

    The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.

    "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13

    Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.

    Now is a good time to repent of things you have done. Get everything under the shed blood of Jesus. He's paid for all of your sins. Be straight with him. He knows everything we've done.

    Ask him to send you some angels to keep you safe from the enemies of your soul. Block people on your phone who will try to tempt you to return to your old lifestyle. Ask God to bring you some new. Christian friends.

    You are going to have to testify to old friends that you have been born again and are now a follower of Jesus. Don't let them laugh you out of your promise.

    You're going to have spiritual warfare, so read your Bible every day. Start with Ephesians 6. Stay in Matthew through to 1,2,3rd John near the back. Speak it as you read it: it will stick in all 3 gates: eyes, ears, mouth.

    Pray as if we were talking. Your own thoughts. Ask for and receive what you ask for. Believe you have it. The Holy Spirit is with you now. John 16&17.

    Hit the REPLY button to email me. You're on my prayer list.
  • Mishael Part 1 - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26
    How to become a follower of Jesus Christ (Christian)

    If you feel compelled to take your first step towards God, you can do that right now wherever you are.

    1. Acknowledge the Problem: We have all sinned, and that sin separates us from God

    No matter how good you think you are, no matter how many good things you try to do, it is still not good enough to get into heaven; it can't be earned but is a gift.

    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

    "And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness; all these evil things come from within, and defile the man." Mark 7:20-23

    . Discover the Solution: Jesus

    The only way for God to bridge the gap between Himself and us is through His Son, Jesus Christ. His death was a substitute for us; He paid the penalty for our sins.

    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

    "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." I Peter 3:18

    "Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

    . Respond: Believe, Repent, Confess, Accept Jesus as Lord and Savior

    To be saved, we must believe that Jesus is Lord and believe that He died for our sins. This confession acknowledges before God that we are unable to attain righteousness on our own and that we accept His plan for our lives.
  • Wenmar - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26
    Otis, I prayed the Lord will reveal Himself to you and renew your mind so that you know Him in a personal way and have no more doubt!
  • Victor Mulemba on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    1 Timothy 3:1-2 "A bishop should one wife" not a bishop should have one husband.1 Corinthians 12:28 First God appointed " prophets in the church" NOT PROPHETESS IN THE CHURCH.
  • Sunday Levinus Alaka on 1 Corinthians 14:33
    "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints". As Paul begins to draw his letter to a close, he issues an important reminder about the character of God: for God is not a God of disorder but a God of peace. He is not the author of confusion, but is a God of order and harmony - and all His children, within the Church, should reflect this godly characteristic.
  • Bro. Don - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26
    Kenneth, I pray for much fruit for your labor. God bless you.
  • Michael Reidy on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Unfortunately, we have professing Christians who dont trust what Paul is writing came from God. They say those words are for differnt times in history. "Surely God knows, letting a woman speak in Church will be lovely and intertaining t the heart and pleasing to the eyes. Surely God must be confused about this?

    Is God confused about Gay marriage too or/same sex marriage?

    Is God confused about Abortion as well or is he only confused about what Paul said about woman? LOL...do you see the stupity in man / woman?
  • Mishael to Michael - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    If people will read Genesis very slowly; note chronological events that match; it will make more sense. It takes more work on your part; and this generation is the NOW generation. I want it now and I don't want to work for it.

    Also: the center columns are references to the alphabet or numbers that are within the verses. They expand the understanding of those verses.

    At the entrance to this website is a search box. Bring up the verse you want answers to: then scroll down to the Commentary box. Lots of info in that.

    Study to show yourself approved. So many subjects will be opened up to you, you'll really be blessed by your discoveries. You'll want to share them right away.

    Sometimes you'll have to use google to find a verse you can't remember the words to.

    Better yet, ask the Holy Spirit to help you study :D
  • Michael Reidy - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Thank you for the valuable instruction although it had no substance to topic. Women speaking in Church.
  • Mishael - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    I have no comments on women preacher/

    or teachers. Although everyone agrees that God called Deborah to be a judge. Other women were prophetesses.

    I was responding to the gay/ homosexual comment. Pardon me.
  • Michael Reidy - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    God is clear about the topic. And so I am also clear. If I have said something that offends you please be clear.
  • Paul white on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    Who was king when Neduchadnezzar when he was a beast?
  • Judy - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    God protected Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom so no one else would get it. After the seven years of punishment God gave it back to Nebuchadnezzar, we know this by the band of iron and copper that was put around the stump. You can find this at Daniel 4:18-37.
  • Bob Hilt - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    I am not sure but a good guess would be his son Belshazzar in Daniel 5: 20 But when his (Nebuchadnezzar) heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:

    21 And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.

    22 And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this;

    23 But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them;

    That would be my guess
  • St Francis on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    I am responding to the coments:"1Cor14 is all about spiritual gifts...." No, it is not. Paul is begging the church to follow that which is important: brotherly love, ie. the love of God and Unity. Am I to be so dotrinically correct and rigid that I forsake the commandments that Jesus left us with; to love the Lord my God and my brother as well. Self indulgence mascarading as correcting an error of doctrine is Satan's favorite trick. Why do I always have a comment and an opinion that MUST BE HEARD about everything? Especially something controversial like speaking it toungues. I am here to proclaim: "cut that off, grow this out, stop doing this, start doing that.." pride. 4bid not amen
  • Michael on 1 Corinthians 14
    Glen, To love is the fruit of the spirit and also the fulfillment of the law... The gifts of the spirits are gifts given to us free and everyone regardless... There are those who believe the gifts have ceased.. Citing some references. It's arguable.

    The main point is that the gifts are for building of the church... And the church is still work in progress so how do the gifts cease.. The adversary is still much more active than before so how and why should the gifts cease.. We need it more that ever for the battle ahead...
  • Michael on 1 Corinthians 14
    Praise the Lord... We are on the same side. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are to be enjoyed. Although there are those who don't believe in that and therefore do not participate in its goodness... It doesn't stop Yeshshua to bless his people
  • Michael on 1 Corinthians 14
    The whole idea that women were not to speak in church has been very controversial since the early church.

    The truth is that Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ didn't forbid anyone not to teach whether male or female.. Factually more women ministered to Jesus than men did.. And there are so many examples of women teaching in the new testament..

    So what my understanding is that this instruction was to a particular church which had a problem with women with "loud mouth" and orderliness..
  • St Francis on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    1 Corinthians 14:39 is clear: "....forbid not to speak in toungues." So we have nothing to say about it being past away, wrong, bad, good, or whatever; we simply "forbid not."
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    Of course, you're correct. However, when some speak against such manifestations of spiritual gifts, they see how it is being done outside of Biblical instruction. The chapter you quote, is filled with instruction on its permitted use. And if there is no one to interpret when a tongue is given, then he should remain silent; for the gift is given so an unbeliever has a sign from God that an unlearned language is spoken (maybe God is giving him a Word), and to the believer, the translated message from that tongue will be for mutual edification. Outside these guidelines, the gift of tongues becomes pointless and of little use in the Church.
  • St Francis - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    "Forbid not" means "FORBID NOT." It doesn't mean give my opinion or an accurate disputation about toungues being meaningless or interpretable, or etc.....Simply, humbly "Forbid not." What section of "Forbid not" is cofusing to you?!
  • Jesse - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    Chris, very well said, Amen! What you just said is the reason why I believe that what is going on in our churches today is not the tongues that the bible speaks of. In fact, what is going on today as far as tongues goes, it doesn't even come close to what was happening in the early church, and the purpose God intended it to be.

    My guess on why Paul said forbid not to speak in tongues was because at that time, God was giving them that ability. Therefore, at that time, it would have been right for Paul to say that.

    Acts Chapter 2 is a perfect example of tongues in its proper function. The Holy Spirit fell on these men, and they spoke in tongues. What they were speaking were known languages, not known to those who were speaking, but known by those who were hearing them speak.

    Most of what is going on in our churches as far as tongues goes is in complete violation of 1 Corinthians 14:22.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    Thank you Jesse for your wise perceptions & 'correct dividing of the Word'. If I could give an illustration of a false tongue (1 John 4:1). At a Church meeting, that I was told about, a brother went forward to share a Word & proceeded to speak in an unlearned language. However, no one got up to interpret, so by rights he should have ceased & taken his seat. But as he continued, another in their midst listened intently & became increasingly agitated. He went forward hurriedly to the pastor/elder to immediately shut down the speaker. The elder enquired as to why he needed to do this. The man replied, that the speaker was in fact speaking in a language he understood (i.e. an actual unlearned language was being spoken), but the content of it was a series of utter blasphemies against the Living God & His Son. The question then: how can we know the Spirit behind the tongue if an interpretation is not given; is the Church edified in any way; or, is it just a 'confirmation' of an alive Church!
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    If we take "Forbid not" as a command on its own, then you are quite correct that no one should forbid the speaking in tongues under ANY circumstances. Yet, all good biblical exposition requires that all Scripture, be understood in its proper context, with the background in mind & in line with other Scriptures. To use "Forbid not" as a command to speak in tongues without restraint (unless speaking/praying in private (1 Corinthians 14:4)), then we demonstrate a myopic & distorted view of the subject. The use of tongues is given to the Church as one of several gifts for its edification, but if there is no one to translate, then the gift is to be withheld, as the Spirit of God leads in the service. The instructions by Paul are ample in showing the correct use of this gift, more so because of its misuse & by those who wished to demonstrate a sense of superiority over others. And then, the opponents of the gifts quote 1 Cor 13:8-10: that all gifts are now redundant; but I don't share that view.
  • St Francis - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    Excellent response! I agree that "Forbid not...." is not the final command on toungues and that a myoptic view of any scripture will always bring error or misunderstanding.

    However, there are persons in the church who sadly make the crnter piece of their Christian lives communicating that "toungues" have past away and indeed all of God's ministerial gifts have past away." If I had not ever heard anyone speak in toungues I would still have faith in it because of "Forbid Not."
  • Can someone shed light on verses 34-35? Is there somewhere else in KJV that indicates women can preach/teach in church? We had a visiting pastor who indicated women could preach/teach in the church but was not able to give scripture at the time. I've searched and found that women could be messengers outside of the church. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. May God bless and keep all my sisters and brothers is my prayer. Amen.
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14
    You can get many views on this matter, so you need to read the portion you have quoted, as well as 1 Cor 11:3 onwards (specifically on the relationship between the Godhead and mankind). Bearing in mind also that women played a very important part in the Church & most definitely as mothers in raising godly children (e.g. Timothy). Based on what the Scriptures say on this subject & without any further details elsewhere, it seems that apostle Paul does require the silence of women in the Church in regards to teaching. Of course, to sing and pray is allowed, but teaching is the responsibility of men. I know women now pastor & lead & blessings have flowed; but there is a biblical warrant here.
  • Bonita R Kenney on 1 Corinthians 14
    My thoughts are so unimaginable about the gifts of the spirit, but I speak in my heavenly language and pray for understanding to edify the church, and not myself for thing to be decent and in order, this chapter has been a true enlightenment for my life in following the commandments from the Lord. Praise be unto God! amen

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