1 Corinthians Chapter 14 Discussion



 
  • "And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets."

    All these means is that the message giving by someone who claims to be a "prophet" must be subject(or tested by previous prophetic messages) to what other prophets have spoken. If the message contradicts scripture and the prophets, the such individual is not a prophet of God. His message must be subject to the spirit of truth and if speaks against it, there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20) To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

    "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."
  • QWilliams on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Unfortunately, Men have allowed their flesh instead of the Holy Spirit to Reveal to them what Paul is saying. God didn't say Wonen couldn't be Pastor's or Speak in the "Church" Paul wS speaking to the Church if Corinth and Timothy was speaking to the Jews that had allowed the women to usurp authority due to their carnal behavior! Through out the OT/NT God has used Women and then Galatians 3:28 is very Clear that God is okay with Women Pastor's, The Samaritan woman and Jesus interaction at the Well open the door for the 20th and 21st century to finally allow Wonen to Walk in the 5 fold Ministry today! God gave that permission not Paul. Paul was chastising the "Church" because the women there, was out of control. That's why the Disciples didn't question Him/Jesus! Deborah, Esther, Phoebe and many other Women are recognized in Scripture. Mariam was a Prophetess! Don't be deceived by the enemy, that God barred the Women from Pastoring God's flock and Winning Souls for the Kingdom of God. Roman's 10:12, Colossians 3:11...Amen
  • QWilliams on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Unfortunately, Men have allowed their flesh instead of the Holy Spirit to Reveal to them what Paul is saying. God didn't say Wonen couldn't be Pastor's or Speak in the "Church" Paul wS speaking to the Church if Corinth and Timothy was speaking to the Jews that had allowed the women to usurp authority due to their carnal behavior! Through out the OT/NT God has used Women and then Galatians 3:28 is very Clear that God is okay with Women Pastor's, The Samaritan woman and Jesus interaction at the Well open the door for the 20th and 21st century to finally allow Wonen to Walk in the 5 fold Ministry today! God gave that permission not Paul. Paul was chastising the "Church" because the women there, was out of control. That's why the Disciples didn't question Him/Jesus! Deborah, Esther, Phoebe and many other Women are recognized in Scripture. Mariam was a Prophetess! Don't be deceived by the enemy, that God barred the Women from Pastoring God's flock and Winning Souls for the Kingdom of God. Roman's 10:12, Colossians 3:11...Amen
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    1 Timothy 2:11-13: "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve."

    The Scripture actually is Paul speaking to Timothy about his ministerial responsibilities & not Timothy speaking to the Jews. This is nevertheless a clear directive based on the order of creation: even though Adam & Eve were created equal in every respect, yet God chose the order of creation, that Adam (man) be created first under God & then Eve, under man. In society, this order can have some bearing, but in the Church, that order must be followed: that man has been given the authority to lead God's people & to teach them accordingly. Women have not that privilege, but have doubtless played vital roles in the Church (as you have shown) & as helpers to Paul & Timothy & others.

    Your reference to Galatians 3:28, Romans 10:12 & Colossians 3:11, are indications of a woman's equality to men & particularly as those 'in Christ'. They have nothing to do with the order within Christ's Church. Any evidence of a woman usurping that position, is contrary to God's order & requirement. It was never seen in the NT Church nor evidence in the Church subsequent. This is new phenomenon: from about the 1900s this came to be evident (I may be corrected on this date), as the emancipation movement of women grew & with the advent of the world wars, there were fewer men to lead the Church. But this was never from biblical design & ought to have been corrected but unfortunately has increasingly become the norm in some Churches & it has been accepted with disregard to Divine instruction. And lest you think that I have something against women as leaders, I do not. In many instances (both secular & religious), women actually do a better job than men, but that doesn't give permission to re-interpret God's Word.
  • Jeff - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Its apparent when the enemy steps in and suggests something that contradicts our Lord....Hath God said?
  • Teresa-in Reply to Godhead Genesis 11

    I was shocked to read your statement about Cain's death. His name in Hebrew (Qayin) was not killed that way.

    Please sir/madam, reading in the Hebrew language you will find the truth and then understand. I have never seen

    fist fight in King James Bible either. Knowing Hebrew helps a lot.

    Sister in Jesus Christ
  • CAINS CURSE Genesis 423-24 530-31 - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:23
    Gill's Exposition of:

    For I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt; which, as some say, were his great-grandfather Cain, and his son Tubalcain: according to a TRADITION OF THE JEWS: it was after this manner; Cain being old, and blind, and weary, sat in a thicket among the trees to rest himself; when Lamech, who was blind also, and led by young Tubalcain hunting, who seeing Cain, and taking him for a wild beast, bid Lamech draw his bow, which he did, and killed him; but coming nearer, and finding it was Cain, was wroth and angry, and slew the young man: the ARABIC WRITERS, tell the story with a little variation, and Lamech being in the woods with one of his sons, and hearing a noise in it, supposing it to be a wild beast, cast a stone, which fell upon Cain, and killed him ignorantly; and the lad that led him said, what hast thou done? thou hast killed Cain! and coming to his wives, Adah and Zillah, said to them, hear my word, he that slew Abel shall be avenged sevenfold, but Lamech seventy times seven, who killed a man with a stone, and a young man by clapping of his hands. And Gills version: he was sorry for it, made confession of it; it was to the wounding and grief of his soul, which does not agree with the wicked race of Cain: the words may be rendered: "though I have slain a man, that is nothing to you, you are not accountable for it, nor have anything to fear coming upon you by reason of that; it is to my own wounding, damage, and hurt, if to any, and not to you [the murder of Abel should be avenged on them, this being the 7th generation in which it was to be avenged, Genesis 4:15]

    Mishaels Opinion: I think TubalCain was "accidentally" killed. I first thought there was fist fight until I read this. All of the descendants of Cain died before the Flood.

    The story of Cain is told by the Arabs he lived among, and by Jewish Historians. Hopefully these commentaries will end that discussion.

    My apologies to you,
  • CAINS CURSE Genesis 423-24 530-31 - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:23
    Gill's Exposition of:

    For I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt; which, as some say, were his great-grandfather Cain, and his son Tubalcain: according to a TRADITION OF THE JEWS: it was after this manner; Cain being old, and blind, and weary, sat in a thicket among the trees to rest himself; when Lamech, who was blind also, and led by young Tubalcain hunting, who seeing Cain, and taking him for a wild beast, bid Lamech draw his bow, which he did, and killed him; but coming nearer, and finding it was Cain, was wroth and angry, and slew the young man: the ARABIC WRITERS, tell the story with a little variation, and Lamech being in the woods with one of his sons, and hearing a noise in it, supposing it to be a wild beast, cast a stone, which fell upon Cain, and killed him ignorantly; and the lad that led him said, what hast thou done? thou hast killed Cain! and coming to his wives, Adah and Zillah, said to them, hear my word, he that slew Abel shall be avenged sevenfold, but Lamech seventy times seven, who killed a man with a stone, and a young man by clapping of his hands. And Gills version: he was sorry for it, made confession of it; it was to the wounding and grief of his soul, which does not agree with the wicked race of Cain: the words may be rendered: "though I have slain a man, that is nothing to you, you are not accountable for it, nor have anything to fear coming upon you by reason of that; it is to my own wounding, damage, and hurt, if to any, and not to you [the murder of Abel should be avenged on them, this being the 7th generation in which it was to be avenged, Genesis 4:15]

    Mishaels Opinion: I think TubalCain was "accidentally" killed. I first thought there was fist fight until I read this. All of the descendants of Cain died before the Flood.

    The story of Cain is told by the Arabs he lived among, and by Jewish Historians. Hopefully these commentaries will end that discussion.

    My apologies to you,
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:33
    I wouldn't say that the Book of Revelation is one of "chaos & confusion". True, much imagery is used in it, & things written of the future that may be hard to comprehend, but I would suggest that those who do find the Book confusing or chaotic, that they should seek to learn from it. One can find much help in reading & understanding the Book, but if there is still doubt, then it's best to leave the matter with God, pray for understanding & be watchful for things that will come to pass.

    In it are the words of Jesus (as indicated in Revelation chapter 1) given to the Apostle John to declare the Mind & Acts of God during the final days of the Earth. If they are hard to be understood, then the problem rests with us & we should seek further light on the matter. In any case, the things that are yet to happen, should alert every reader of this Book (& indeed all of Scripture), to the terrors & judgements that await those who spurn God's Love for them & not giving heed to the state of their souls.
  • I'm confused, is speaking in tongues forbidden in the Bible or condoned, in modern time?
  • Chris - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:23
    In my understanding of this subject & considering all relevant Scriptures, I don't detect that the Gift of speaking in other tongues has ever been done away with. There will be some who say that it has been, along with healing, miracles, etc. & they would cite some Scriptures in support, chiefly, 1 Corinthians 13:10 referring to the complete Word of God (that which is Perfect) now with us. And at the other end of the spectrum, there are those who maintain that unless one speaks in tongues, then one has not been baptized by the Spirit, hence not saved (using Acts chapter 2 as one of the Scriptures). And there are various opinions in-between.

    I follow the understanding that if one has that gift, then one has to use it for God's Glory & as prescribed in the Word. 1 Corinthians chapters 12-14 are relevant for us to know how the gift is to be used in corporate ministry & private worship. The matter arises when a tongue is given that appears to not be a language unlearned, but as some describe it as 'babble'. Again, if this matter is unknown to the user of tongues, then Paul has prescribed the proper use of it. But often in some Churches, a corporate use of tongues in worship is given a special place which presents itself as a meaningless din to the non-participant, & this is not in accord with Scripture.

    In any case, the Scripture is clear that though this was a sign of the reception of this Gift, it's certainly not mandatory to have it to prove the indwelling of the Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:30).
  • Star - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:23
    There is a difference in speaking in tongues as in Holy Spirit baptism. The Holy Spirit is the gift. Holy Spirit baptism in tongues is the utterance or a sign. Chapter 14 here is talking about spiritual gifts. It is those gifts given by God as he so desired to give. It's completely different. Even the first sentence of this chapter starts off by talking on spiritual gifts.
  • Star - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:23
    When I was desiring to be filled wthe the Holy Ghost, I spoke in tongues. It is also a sign, Mark 17. You will also receive power once that the Ho!y Ghost has come upon you. Acts 1:8. I'm in a small church. All speak in tongues.

    Mostly they speak unto God & not to the church. It's a beautiful sound to hear.
  • Daniel on 1 Corinthians 14
    An "unknown tongue" is better translated as a "foreign language." Read the chapter with that in mind and you might realize that the turkey calling, mumbo jumbo or other unintelligible blathering that many call "speaking in tongues" is utter nonsense. God is not the author of confusion as verse 34 states.
  • Mary Smalls on 1 Corinthians 14
    Why is it some churches permit speaking in tongue and some do not?
  • Hugo Zyl - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14
    God bless you sister Mary

    There have been different movements in Church history.

    From about 1500 we have the Lutheran churches who just believe that you are saved by faith, and do not need to live a holy life. From about 1700 we have the Wesleyan churches who believe you must also live a holy life. From about 1900 we have the Pentecostal churches which believe that after faith, and holiness, comes the Holy Ghost as a seperate event in your life.

    These latter churches would emphasize speaking in tongues. Some even go so far as to say that speaking in tongues is the evidence of the Holy Ghost baptism. That is not true thought; Jesus said that when the Holy Ghost comes He will teach us in all things. So the evidence for the Holy Spirit is to accept the truth when it comes to you.

    Peace & Love in Christ
  • Starbux - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14
    But let me correct myself that this chApter could also speaking on the gift of the Holy Ghost BUT there is a difference in diverse tongues which is a spiritual gift but it must have an interpretation of spoken to men.love

    Other tongues, those are spoken to God. It's between you & God. You will go forward & will receive power. Go preach the gospel in boldness. We must do so in love. Always in love
  • Mishael Part 2 - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26
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    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

    Pray this prayer with sincerity of heart

    "Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life through the gift of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."

    The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.

    "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13

    Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.

    Now is a good time to repent of things you have done. Get everything under the shed blood of Jesus. He's paid for all of your sins. Be straight with him. He knows everything we've done.

    Ask him to send you some angels to keep you safe from the enemies of your soul. Block people on your phone who will try to tempt you to return to your old lifestyle. Ask God to bring you some new. Christian friends.

    You are going to have to testify to old friends that you have been born again and are now a follower of Jesus. Don't let them laugh you out of your promise.

    You're going to have spiritual warfare, so read your Bible every day. Start with Ephesians 6. Stay in Matthew through to 1rd John near the back. Speak it as you read it: it will stick in all 3 gates: eyes, ears, mouth.

    Pray as if we were talking. Your own thoughts. Ask for and receive what you ask for. Believe you have it. The Holy Spirit is with you now. John 16&17.

    Hit the REPLY button to email me. You're on my prayer list.
  • Mishael Part 1 - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26
    How to become a follower of Jesus Christ (Christian)

    If you feel compelled to take your first step towards God, you can do that right now wherever you are.

    1. Acknowledge the Problem: We have all sinned, and that sin separates us from God

    No matter how good you think you are, no matter how many good things you try to do, it is still not good enough to get into heaven; it can't be earned but is a gift.

    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

    "And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness; all these evil things come from within, and defile the man." Mark 7:20-23

    2. Discover the Solution: Jesus

    The only way for God to bridge the gap between Himself and us is through His Son, Jesus Christ. His death was a substitute for us; He paid the penalty for our sins.

    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

    "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." I Peter 3:18

    "Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

    3. Respond: Believe, Repent, Confess, Accept Jesus as Lord and Savior

    To be saved, we must believe that Jesus is Lord and believe that He died for our sins. This confession acknowledges before God that we are unable to attain righteousness on our own and that we accept His plan for our lives.
  • Wenmar - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26
    Otis, I prayed the Lord will reveal Himself to you and renew your mind so that you know Him in a personal way and have no more doubt!
  • Victor Mulemba on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    1 Timothy 3:1-2 "A bishop should one wife" not a bishop should have one husband.1 Corinthians 12:28 First God appointed " prophets in the church" NOT PROPHETESS IN THE CHURCH.
  • Sunday Levinus Alaka on 1 Corinthians 14:33
    "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints". As Paul begins to draw his letter to a close, he issues an important reminder about the character of God: for God is not a God of disorder but a God of peace. He is not the author of confusion, but is a God of order and harmony - and all His children, within the Church, should reflect this godly characteristic.
  • Bro. Don - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:26
    Kenneth, I pray for much fruit for your labor. God bless you.
  • Michael Reidy on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Unfortunately, we have professing Christians who dont trust what Paul is writing came from God. They say those words are for differnt times in history. "Surely God knows, letting a woman speak in Church will be lovely and intertaining t the heart and pleasing to the eyes. Surely God must be confused about this?

    Is God confused about Gay marriage too or/same sex marriage?

    Is God confused about Abortion as well or is he only confused about what Paul said about woman? LOL...do you see the stupity in man / woman?
  • Mishael to Michael - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    If people will read Genesis very slowly; note chronological events that match; it will make more sense. It takes more work on your part; and this generation is the NOW generation. I want it now and I don't want to work for it.

    Also: the center columns are references to the alphabet or numbers that are within the verses. They expand the understanding of those verses.

    At the entrance to this website is a search box. Bring up the verse you want answers to: then scroll down to the Commentary box. Lots of info in that.

    Study to show yourself approved. So many subjects will be opened up to you, you'll really be blessed by your discoveries. You'll want to share them right away.

    Sometimes you'll have to use google to find a verse you can't remember the words to.

    Better yet, ask the Holy Spirit to help you study :D
  • Michael Reidy - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    Thank you for the valuable instruction although it had no substance to topic. Women speaking in Church.
  • Mishael - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    I have no comments on women preacher/

    or teachers. Although everyone agrees that God called Deborah to be a judge. Other women were prophetesses.

    I was responding to the gay/ homosexual comment. Pardon me.
  • Michael Reidy - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:34
    God is clear about the topic. And so I am also clear. If I have said something that offends you please be clear.
  • Paul white on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    Who was king when Neduchadnezzar when he was a beast?
  • Judy - in Reply on 1 Corinthians 14:39
    God protected Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom so no one else would get it. After the seven years of punishment God gave it back to Nebuchadnezzar, we know this by the band of iron and copper that was put around the stump. You can find this at Daniel 4:18-37.


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