1 Corinthians Chapter 14 Discussion Page 8

Notice that these so called heavenly languages that people say they are speaking must be of the Devil considering that Paul was caught up to the third heaven and heard words UNSPEAKABLE WORDS,which it is NOT LAWFUL TO UTTERED. Rom 8 26 cannot be carasmatic tongues because they CANNOT COME FORTH FROM THE MOUTH. Bible tongues are languages ACTS 1 6 which are tongues. Tongues are languages not jibber jabber. There is not one command in the Bible for someone to speak in tongues to be saved.

Jacob, see my comment on John 14. As in the great commission, which is part of the gospel, Jesus asks us to make disciples of all nations and He wanted them to believe and be baptized. Matthew 28 18 20. On the day of Pentecost when Holy Spirit filled apostles spoke in other languages from other countries the Holy Spirit gave them utterance for the foreign Jews , these people spoke the good news. The listeners were hearing, believing believing that we are saved by His death, resurrection , repenting, confessing Christ as Lord, then baptized, immersed by the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They were added to the church that day. Today in the 21st century, we still follow that plan. Jesus, the Word has given us the Way to Him. There is no new way. When He completed His mission on earth, it was done. The Holy Spirit can guide us into all truth. In Corinthians 15, followers were beginning to change the gospel from the way it was first delivered and Paul was warning against that.

The Jewish nation began with Signs see Exodus 4vs 8,9,17,28,etc. They rejected their prophesied messiah and Jesus told them in Matt 16 4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a SIGN Those seeking signs today like the carasmatics will be deceived 2 Thess 2 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and SIGNS and lying wonders. Wont they wonder after the beast when he makes the tongues LIKE AS OF FIRE in Acts 2 3 come down literally in Rev 13 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh FIRE come down from heaven on the earth in the SIGHT of men, The carasmaticas will say, see were right, were right, and will be deceived!

Finish the verse in Isa 28 11. yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Vs 22 says tongues are for a sign. 1 Cor 1 22 says the JEWS require a sign. The gospel was to the Jew first Romans 1 16. So in Acts 2 the message Peter preached was to the Jew first, see verses 5,14,22,36. The Jews rejected the message as a Nation and God went to the Gentiles. Acts 2 is not the plan of salvation for today. The gospel is in 1 Cor 15 1 4 and no baptism mentioned.

Hello Nathan What this scripture is talking about is the utterance of tongues as the spirit of God gives. This is talking about the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost was prophesied in Isaiah 28 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people . This happened on the day of Pentecost in Acts Chapter 2. Paul in verse 22 is making a clarification. If I can say it like this, when the unbeliever sees a person a believer who has been filled with the Holy Ghost this is a sign to them that they need it to. To give a better picture this is what happened on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2 38. The unbelievers standing around saw the believer s speaking in tongues as the spirit of God give utterance. They were all amazed and marveled at this sign. If you continue reading to validate that you must speak in tongues as the spirit of God give utterance, Paul further states in verse 39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues .

According to 1 corithian 14...let us speak of what the lord has inherinted in our tounges.

a little bit confusing in terms of understanding

A great teaching keep up the good work and I pray God will richly bless you.

1Corinthians ch14 verse 34 35 Is this true to the culture of Apostle Paul or is this true to the will of God? Does a woman have the same Holy Spirit that was given to man?

It is very obvious from the context of 1Corinthians 14 that the purpose of speaking in tongues or foreign languages is to communicate the gospel and thereby edify the church. If the listeners do not understand the spoken language they cannot be edified. Consequently, if there is no interpreter, the speaker is simply speaking into the air and the only ones present who know what is being said are God and himself. This is the clear meaning of the often misquoted verse 1Cor. 14 2 ...Verses 9, clearly the entire purpose of tongues is to cross language barriers and communicate the gospel. 1Corinthians is the only one in which Paul deals with the subject of tongues. The Corinthian church obviously had a specific, temporary problem because Paul 's 2nd letter to Corinth never even mentions tongues. The ancient city of Corinth was famous for its international seaports. Because the Corinthian church was melting pot of many different nationalities, its services often became chaotic and confusing. Evidently some of the members would pray, testify or preach in languages unknown to the others present. This is why Paul commanded that if they spoke in a tongue unknown to the majority, they should remain silent unless there was someone there to interpret or translate 1Cor. 14 28

This chapter is commands for a public meeting ,overseers who disobey these verses are in rebellion .forbid not to speak in tongues, is a command Study your bible desire spiritual manesfestations is a command not a suggestion there are 9 manefestations of Holy Spirit ,if you have been thought otherwise you have been taught heresySTUDY YOUR BIBLE

Lets pray in tongues in conjunction with prayer in our mind this will be fruitful,powerful and loving

This is great for having a loved one that needs prayer i can think of she or he in my mind and pray for them in my prayer tongue without miss straight into the Throne room

I have talked to friends about 1 Corinthians 14 34 15 to give their opinions on women presiding over congregations, but I almost got insulted or was insulted. Is there any further interpretation on these verses apart from what they say? I do believe that women can minister like house to house ministering or evangelism. But for a woman to pastor a Church, I have not found any scriptural justifications.

1 Cor. Ch. 14 34 35 Why is it that everybody at every church that I know of ignore these scriptures? When I ask questions they tell me "If it doesn 't pertain to your salvation it 's not important. " There are female preachers, deacons and everything else in churches. Yet, the bible states that a deacon must be the husband of one wife. This tells me that a deacon is supposed to be a male.

truely truely it is.When Jesus Christ said unto His Deciples that remainrth here untill the holly splrit cometh unto you Truelly they waited and they did not see the spirit coming unto them.But they rather felt it that the HOLY SPIRIT was uponG THEM all

Things that stand out in this Chapter. First this is a whole chapter on Tongues. We are to desire and be Zealous for spiritual gifts and covet the best. Forbid not to speak in tongues. Most important let all things be done in decently and order. For God is not the author of confusion.

God the person of the Holy Ghost does not work contradictory to himself. He together with the other persons of the Godhead inspired the writing of the word of God that includes the grammar of the original Greek. The point being that he will not get us to do anything that contradicts his written word. We do not go by feelings, voices, or rapping tables, but by the Word of God alone and in context.

It is good too have a 'tongue ' to communicate with God in the spirit. There are times when we should subject ourselves in deep conversation which God the spirit helps us pray and intercedes for us. Angels surround us.

Just as I was reading the comments, everyone who commented on women should have known the bible already. Go to the book of Joel the second chapter verses twenty eight and twenty nine read and learn. Also in Acts second chapter verses seventeen and eighteen. Get a good understanding of this because you must worship God in the spirit, because He is a spirit and his teaching is in the spirit.

I don 't understand what this mean. I have a friend who are teaching her church the wrong way. What is I suppose to do.

Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, In light of this verse 22. Why would you be speaking in tongues which are a language by the way, in front of believers. Why don 't you get out on the street and preach in jibber jabber and see how many lost souls you reach. You would be as a barbarian and people would know you are mad.

We would all be better off if we would pray in unknown tongues as this verse states. Jerry

I do not believe that God would command half of humanity to always be silent in church. Deborah was a prophet in the old testament and I do not believe that God changes or makes mistakes. I believe that the verse in Corinthians refers to the laws of the church at that time and not to God 's laws. There was a lot of grumbling and discontent and the women were told to be quiet. I know that God can use both men and women to carry his word to others.

I have been having a "discussion " with my dear wife about verses 34 and 35. She never stops talking regardless of where we are and is certainly not obedient. I think that these two verses should be read literally but she seems to think that it 's a metonymic hyperbole. I was wondering whether any biblical scholars out there would agree with me or with her.

I take it completely literal. I think women are to be quiet, not say a word in church and especially not teach men. They can teach younger women titus 2 however. In the Bible times women were to be quiet, there were no choirs. They probably sang. It doesnt say not to sing, it says not to teach over men and to be quiet in church. Whats the problem? Its better that way anyway. Im a modern day woman, evangelical, where we have many women pastors mainly as children church pastors , but i dont agree with my church on this and that is fine. I like men to be the head of the home, over the wife not talking controlling and i like men to preach and teach. Women can sit back and enjoy. Nothin wrong with that. I dont know why so many WANT women to preach teach! Sounds so feminist to me. Just my opinion

That a man has a loud voice, sweet words etc does not concern God where he has spoken. It is either you are the scriptures or a hypocrite. "let your women keep silence in the churches ". What is hard in this? Simple English. But the pride and foolishness of man has led to various arguments. Those wrest the word of God will be destroyed. This is no joke. They are false prophets

Pls i want to ask about this 1corinthians 14v32. And my question is that. The word And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets , does it also mean that, when ever I 'm given a chance to preach or teach, and i have been given specific time to do so, i can stop the holyspirit and not exceed the time given to me?

if we truly believe the works of the holy spirit we proved that god is in us. for all the goodness God given us, we are free man in the dessert but yet we are reminded of what is wrong and right to decide what is pleasing in to his sight.

1 Corinthians chapter 14 must be read after reading 1 Corinthians 12 and 13 for they all flow together on the same subject they are Paul s letter to Corinthians on the gifts of the spirit and their ooperation in the church 1 Corinthians 14 helps to demonstrate the difference between other tongues and the unknown tongue The unknown tongue that which is spoken in the use of the gifts of the spirit The other tongues appear when someone first initially recieves the Holy Ghost for the first time Other tongues is an earthly language a languages here on earth Unknown tongues like verse 2 says is a heavenly languages because we are only speaking unto God Although this can interpeted when God allows