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- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
5:7 What Bengelius has advanced, both concerning the transposition of these two verses, and the authority of the controverted verse, partly in his Gnomon, and partly in his Apparatus Criticus, will abundantly satisfy any impartial person. For there are three that testify - Literally, testifying, or bearing witness. The participle is put for the noun witnesses, to intimate that the act of testifying, and the effect of it, are continually present. Properly, persons only can testify; and that three are described testifying on earth, as if they were persons, is elegantly subservient to the three persons testifying in heaven. The Spirit - In the word, confirmed by miracles. The water - Of baptism, wherein we are dedicated to the Son, (with the Father and Spirit,) typifying his spotless purity, and the inward purifying of our nature. And the blood - Represented in the Lord's supper, and applied to the consciences of believer. And these three harmoniously agree in one - In bearing the same testimony, - that Jesus Christ is the divine, the complete, the only Saviour of the world.
1Jo 5:7 There are three that bear record in heaven, etc. This verse is not found in the Revised Version or in any ancient MS. It is no doubt an interpolation.
Jess's comment on 2014-01-29 14:58:50:
John 14:7"If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." 8Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." 9Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know ME, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father '?… Also in Matthew 28:18-19 it says 18And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to ME in heaven and on earth. 19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit," All authority is given to Jesus. When Philip seen Him, He saw the Father. John 17:6 says 6"I have manifested Your name to the men whom You gave Me out of the world; they were Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. What is the Father's name? He is the same God who dwelt among us in the flesh.
JOJO's comment on 2014-01-07 11:28:17:
WORD of God.....From GEN to Rev..IS ALL TRUTH......TRINITY is like an APPLE(The core,fruit,skin)there one!!!Same thing, hope this helps by EXAMPLE!!!! God is ETERNAL,SPIRIT,LOVE,OMNIPOTENCE,OMNIPRESENT,OMNISCIENT.
Debra's comment on 2014-01-02 12:30:51:
The bible tells us that many will not receive truth. This is heavenly not earthly a fleshly mine can't comprehen the things of God. The bible tell us they are one why are you trying to disect them the bible say 1Tim.3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness was manifest in the flesh justified in the Spirit, seen of angel preached unto to, believed on on into the world, received up into glory. Plan as the nose on your face. Stop try to put it together in your mind. Have to seek God for he is not from this world. The bible say His thoughts are are not like our, His ways are not like ours. Not trying to change anyone mind. If God can't know one can. Must first be born again seek his face an pray and he will give you understanding. Some of us don't believe the Holy Ghost is for us that's the comforter Jesus was speaking of.This world is blinded by the devil that we will not truth God at his word. We want to see it way and not God. This way is a suffering way but God gives us joy along the way. Need to get in his will. He will give us to know Him after the Spirit because he that hunger and thrist after righteousness shall be fill.
Erickson's comment on 2013-11-23 00:52:46:
The most very important today, we receive Jesus CHRIST as LORD and saviour now, and share the gospel of salvation the death,burial,resurrection of Jesus Christ
Toni's comment on 2013-11-15 07:11:22:
We are saved by believing that Jesus is the Son of the living God. Jesus is not God. He is His Son. Jesus is the word of God manifested in the flesh to bring salvation to them that believe on His name and call upon Him.
Jesus says in John 5:37-40 "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
Don't let the word become a stumblingblock. In that day many are going to come before Jesus and say didn't we testify in your name and cast out devils and Jesus is going to say "depart from me all ye workers of iniquity. I never knew ye." The only people Jesus is going to accept are the ones who had the faith to trust and believe that He is the Son of the living God.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Pastor's comment on 2013-10-25 05:37:28:
you have to remember folks---God is a spirit!!!!! and the spirit became flesh!!!!!! in Mathew 28:19 name is singular not plural!!!! any way ( father,son, and Holy spirit) are not names they are titles !!! have you been to school to know that? also the word of God says that there is one God and if there were another he would have told us and there is no other setting beside him if so he would tell us!!!!!!!!
Lance Mahan's comment on 2013-08-29 10:11:03:
John 4:24 God is a spirit. That is why no one has ever seen God in fullness.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and and the word was GOd.
John 1:14 The word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
If God is the word and dwelt among us then who is GOd? Jesus would be the flesh.
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
He is the Father, Son and God.
Rev 1:8 and 11 Iam the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the ending,and whish was,which is to come , the Almighty.
11:Saying I am the first and last: etc.......
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the lasts and besides Me there is no other GOd.
Only one GOd and He was made flesh and He is the first and Last. Jesus spoke it in Revelation that He was Fist and last.
Only one God, Isaiah speaks of One God and in John 5:7 the three are ONE. The reason Jesus is praying to the father is that He was also flesh and the flesh was not Glorified yet. Yet Jesus did not sin because He couldn't because He was GOd.
This is why Peter can say in Acts what name to be baptized by. Peter knew Jesus as God and His name is above all names.
Leroy Heggin's comment on 2013-08-24 09:01:44:
The Holy Spirit is what we call a possessive adjective. There's only one way of saying a possessive adjective in the Old Testament times. The Spirit of the Lord. The Spirit of God. The spirit of Elijah. The day of the Lord. But, there are two ways of saying the same thing in the Greek, that is: the Spirit of the Lord or the Lord's spirit. The Spirit of God or God's spirit. The spirit of Elijah just Elijah's spirit. The day of the Lord or the Lord's Day. When it comes to gender there are two genders, masculine and feminine. There are there no neuter gender. However, in English, there are three genders. Let's look at a sripture. Matthew 16:18 "And I also say to you that you are Peter on this rock I will build my Church the forces of Hades will not overpower it." Most people are not able to read the Greek so I will call attention to a Spanish version. If you look into the equivalent Spanish version it will say in the last part of verse "y las puertas del Hades no prevaleceran contra ella." That means "The gates of Hell will not prevail against her." the same thing happens in the Greek. The church takes on a feminine ending.the The translators change all the feminine and masculine endings on any neuter gender that they knew were inanimate objects to "it." However, when they came to the Holy Spirit they left the gender the same and capitalize the word Holy Spirit. Luke 3:22 says, "John saw God's Spirit descending like a dove and resting up in Jesus." Matthew 3:11 says, "I baptize you with water but one who is more powerful than I is coming and he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit." You don't want to be baptized with a person but you want to be baptized with the power and your spiritual essence of that person: the spirit and power of Almighty God. Denounce the doctrine of the Trinity. It is false doctrine. It is polytheism. I have been to Bible College and was taught this doctrine of the Trinity, but the Bible does not teach it. So, I dumped it.
Patsy's comment on 2013-08-19 10:37:13:
that was htm I dropped the h in the addy
Michael Oqendo's comment on 2013-07-15 00:00:41:
if Jesus is the Father and the Holy Spirit.. then whom Jesus did offer his body. in Himself...? or in the Father.?
sorry for my english
Tosyn's comment on 2013-02-05 08:43:00:
I really like the comment made by Wayne T's. He said people should go and check for themselves if those things are true. He even gave names of extant MS. But the question is 'Why is it that people don't like to research something'? Why am I labelled heretic because i don't believe in paganistic view of God as a 'Triune' God? Why is it difficult to believe what the scripture says about Christ -'God manifest in the flesh'. So who manifest in the flesh? 2nd person of trinity? If your answer is yes, then how can Paul says that in Christ dwells the fullness of godhead bodily? If the second person was incarnated and not YHWH, the only true God, then how can the fulness of godhead dwells in Christ? can't you see that we are reducing Christ from who he really is by Triune God? can't you see that the scripture does not support any form of tri-personality in one as claimed by Tertullian? Do you think the apostles who were strictly monotheistic in their believe have this trinity idea? If you are confuse by some scriptures that make it seems that God is more than one person, isn't it a good opportunity for you to prove all things and hold on to that which is true? I know Christology is the main issue that caused confusion to some Greek converted philosophers. Hence they had to resort to their own view of the Logos to explain who Jesus is. For the recored from the scripture, Jesus is the manifestation of the ONLY true God in human flesh. This is the mystery. The trinity is not the mystery, but a paganistic view of God. The Father is exclusive Spirit.He is father because of incarnation, He begot a Son in time, a genuine human being with flesh and soul. However, Jesus is that same exclusive Spirit adding humanity to his deity. Now this is where the distinction comes from and not in any kind of eternal distinction. Yes the plan had been with God what He would do in time, hence 'the Lamb of God that was slain before the foundation of the world'. Was any lamb really slain before Jesus died on the cross? This is what God in His foreknowledge knew he would do in time. Fellow christians, I know in time if God wills we'll all come to the knowledge of who God really is, or at least in heaven, but to start supporting something without diligent studies and labeling it as the Orthodox Christianity is not only arrogant but misleading. The Roman Catholic church has a lot of questions to answer to God. They really did a lot of damage to the true church's beliefs. My prayer is that God will open our heart of understanding, that Christ may dwell in our hearts, that we may know what is the length, breadth, the height of the love of God that pass all understanding. When Christ returned to heaven, even the angels at the gate queried 'Who is this Lord of glory'? And Christ replied "the Lord of host" "the Lord strong and mighty" is the Lord of glory! So if the angels never knew this mystery at the time in question, who am I to blame humans with a faulty view of who the Lord of Glory is? I leave you with this: Deut 6:4 - Hear oh Israel, YHWH is our God. YHWH is one. God bless you.
Erik's comment on 2012-12-12 04:41:08:
Een van die belangrikse verse in die Bybel wat dikwls wegvertaal word. Die Drie-Eenheid van God...
Translated by Google as:
“One of the most important verses in the Bible dikwls translated. The Trinity of God ...”
Adrian Manjas's comment on 2012-12-09 14:20:16:
I've been a Believer some 19 years now. I've paid attention to pastors, teachers, evangelists' preachings and teachings. There is so much false doctrine out there. So many people do not know what true Grace is. I know that NO ONE should change the word of God. NO ONE should CHANGE or OMMIT verses from the Oldest English translated version of the Scriptures, the King James Version, to make it easier to read. God gave me the ability to understand the King James Version. We can all understand it if we seek God's help. Ok. In the oldest versions of the King James Version, maybe a word or two here or there was translated incorrectly. For instance, a verse may have said something like, "Christ is the 'Top' of the Body", and it was re-translated as, "Christ is the ‘Head’ of the Body. The "Top" and the "Head" carry essentially the same meaning. If the meaning is the same, there is no harm done. Improvements are good. But, when you take a verse and completely distort it by changing the meaning, omitting or changing the words completely, trying to make it a philosophical argument, IT'S JUST PLAIN WRONG!!! One key example is "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the holy Ghost: and these three are one." In the newer versions of the Bible, this was changed to "So we have these three witnesses --". How can the Church of God NOT see this is blasphemy? The proof of the Trinity was clearly removed! People in various religions aren't accepting Jesus Christ and as Lord and Savior because of these new versions. People have been blinded by Satan. People no longer care that the Bible has been drastically changed, just as long as it is "SO MUCH EASIER TO READ'. Changing or omitting words in the Bible is taking away the Bible's power. Some of these new translations contain verses which hold -0- power to transform people's lives. No wonder the world is in jeopardy. Satan infiltrated and counterfeited the word of God so good that believers are even fooled. Better wake up church!
Glenda Kier's comment on 2012-09-14 02:33:25:
I believe the three are separate. For a thousand years we were taught lies, we were taught to believe the Father and the son are the same, but scriptures tell us they aren't. The Messiah, did a lot of praying, so who did He pray to Himself? No! He prayed to the Father, When He say no one knows the time of the end, but my Father...why would He say that if He was the Father? He also says that He now sits at the right hand of the Father, how can that be if He is the Father? We must understand, when the Word says these three are one, it means they are bound together as one. Just like when two people get married, they are joined together as one, but clearly we can see two separate people.
Anthony's comment on 2012-06-28 14:06:41:
Interesting how many of the translations correctly omit the last portion of the scripture. It was inserted as an attempt by scholars to prove the trinity.
Davidmark's comment on 2012-05-24 22:36:57:
I believe the verse is true and inspired by the holy spirit like the whole word of god.GOd is triune and father,son,holy ghost are inseperable and are one.In the biginning they were three yet one and the one who is with three pesonalities came down as JESUS.I dont think that Father himself became son and the son became father because there are three yet one!!
Wayne T's comment on 2012-03-16 21:20:15:
The King James Version, in this case, has added words that are not in the original manuscript. Do a Google Search for "Johannine Comma" and see for yourself. Do research, people, before making a defense for something. Also, look at the Codex Sinaiticus - the oldest, most complete manuscript available and compare this verse to the King James Version. Google it. It has a website where you can read it. I am not allowed to insert the web address here. The KJV is just a someone's VERSION of the Bible - hence the name. Get a TRANSLATION of the Scriptures if you want the truth!
RC's comment on 2012-02-13 22:53:44:
God does not contradict himself. Man contradicts God and it appears in history many times.
In 1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
In "heaven" but there are three
there that bear record.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
In earth, there are three that "bear witness".
Does man wish to contradict this witness and record?
Many people only "believe" the Old Testament
and think there are errors in the New Testament.
24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.
In Chapter 7 of Isaiah
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
In Isaiah chapter 9
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
In Isaiah chapter 45
5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else.
15 Verily thou [art] a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.
In Luke, Chapter 2
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
12 And this [shall be] a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
ONE LORD, ONE MIGHTY GOD, ONE SAVIOUR, ONE HOLY COUNSELLOR.
In Isaiah 55, it is told to us that God's ways are higher than our ways and God's thoughts are higher than our thoughts. It is also told to us who God is.
8 For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
11 I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.
12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when [there was] no strange [god] among you: therefore ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I [am] God.
13 Yea, before the day [was] I [am] he; and [there is] none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?
14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry [is] in the ships.
15 I [am] the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
In John chapter 6
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
We must get in agreement with God and not the other way around. There is plenty of examples in
the Old Testament of what happens to man when he
believes he knows better than GOD.
With that in mind, John 1 clearly states
in the NEW TESTAMENT.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Coming back to 1 John chapter 5 we find
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
God's thoughts must be accepted as higher than our thoughts.
1 John Chapter 5
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Trent's comment on 2011-11-06 13:53:55:
The verse in 1 John 5:7 IS true, just like the entire Bible is true. People can't pick and choose parts from the Bible and use the Bible itself to defend or deny other parts of the Bible. People sometimes feel uncomfortable with what the Bible says and try to re-interpret certain verses to justify what they are already believe or are comfortable with. The entire Bible is the word of God.
YAHUSHUA's comment on 2011-10-14 11:24:59:
IF 1 JOHN 5:7 IS TRUE THEN IT CONTRADICTS 1 John 4:12-No one has ever seen God;, 1 Timothy 1:17,1-Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible,YAHWEH the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.
Amen. Timothy 6:15-16-which God will bring about in his own time, YAHWEH, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen..., John 6:46, 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. I DON'T THINK THAT 1 JOHN 5:7 IS TRUE, IT WAS PURPOSELY PUT THERE BY THE ROMAN CATHOLICS WHILE TRANSLATING THE SCRIPTS FROM HEBREW TO GREEK TO SUPPORT THEIR BELIEVE OF "FATHER THE GOD, SON THE GOD AND HOLY GHOST THE GOD THREE IN ONE............
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