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- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
2:19 They were not of us - When they went; their hearts were before departed from God, otherwise, they would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest - That is, this was made manifest by their going out.
1Jo 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us. This implies that these antichrists were apostates. The worst men are often those who were once outwardly religious and have fallen away. For if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us. Had they been true and genuine Christians they could hardly have fallen into such a state of enmity. Their going away and bitter opposition show that they were not real converts.
Sammy Dusenburg's comment on 2012-10-05 21:33:41:
The problem with your defense of the unbiblical doctrine of eternal security is that you forget that just because you're born, that doesn't mean you'll live forever. Ever read Hebrews 10, "He that despised Moses law” died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under feet the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. "Yes, the Lord will judge HIS PEOPLE--not just those who aren't his people. Check out verse 38 of that same chapter, and don't forget to look over at chapter 6, verses 4-8, before you talk about having to be born again a second or third time. Jesus himself, in Matthew 10:22 gets, as always, the last word, by which we (his people) will be judged: "He that endureth to the end shall be saved." Sounds suspiciously like "the one who shall not be saved, is he that does not endure to the end," doesn't it?
Mike Sibinil's comment on 2011-06-25 10:01:24:
The Doctrine of Eternal Security is Biblical. For no one can be Born Again more than once in his/her lifetime.If the believer can lose his/her salvation upon committing a sin, then he/she must need be Born Again for the second time. This process must necessarily be REPEATED over and over until death. What would happen to the Christian who did NOT manage to get Born Again for the last time who died UNEXPECTEDLY in a motor accident? Will he/she be in Hell because he/she did not have the opportunity of getting Born Again just prior to his/her death??
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